Guild Wars 2

Hi, some of you might know me but for those that don’t:
I am playing necromancer since the open Beta period nearly exclusively in all parts of the game with heavy focus on tpvp. I was known as one of the last “competitive” necromancers in EU before the dhuumfire patch, probably mostly known for being a annoying kitten sitting in the water on temple xD. After the dhuumfire patch I was recruited by the then falling apart MiM to fill up their roster again and played for them in the PAX qualifiers. I just recently came back to PvP after an ~6month break from the game ankitten ow the co-host of the SOAC necromancer podcast. I certainly am not among the top necromancers in pvp at the moment as my play got kinda sloppy after my break but I think I know enough about necro to say a thing or two about the current state we are in.

But first lets take a look at the “history of necromancers” in pvp. At release necromancers where able to dish out quite a bit of punishment as teams where lacking experience in fighting them, but builds like pistolwhip thieves made live quiet hard for aspiring necromancers. As an answer to that we learned to stay on the edges of fights, and the 30 30 10 carrion double well necro with rezz signet was born. And man we caused mayhem. Teams where not used to someone just standing on a high-ground and spamming AOEs with a build that was 100% optimized for never even getting attacked, and with the added rezz we basicly dominated team-fights. But like always teams adapted and learned to counter that playstyle, which led necros to drop the wells and go for other stuff instead, but the “focus the necro as soon as you see him” mentality that people learned during the double well period made it close to impossible for necros to sustain through teamfights and they faded from the meta. This basicaly stayed the same until the addition of dhuumfire which just over-tuned necros and together with other buffs enabled them to completely zone people form ~1200 range away and even 100-0ing mesmers from that range quite easily. They became an insanely strong 1v1 class that dominated teamfights and also had lots of CC. Of course well deserved nerfs happened afterwards, but the most important thing was that hambow warriors made it into the meta.
The combinations of warriors “hardcountering” necros(well necro could win 1v1 vs a warrior still but it took all his cooldowns and you would lose a node almost certainly) and that nerfs made necro a kinda hit or miss class for pvp. They stayed in the meta cause if you where able to protect your necromancer they where still really good in teamfights. But now with the featurepack the necromancer dps was reduced quite a bit with the nerf to dhuumfire, making it really hard to use in condi burst rotations, and also a not reliable way of applying burning in teamfights. Also the AOE pressure of necro was now lower than before the dhuumfire patch because other skills got nerfed since then. At the moment necro is in a state similar to before the Dhuumfire patch, if not even worse.
Basically necro is really strong against inexperienced players but gets rather weak against good teams up to a point where having a necromancer is a burden for your team

Link to Super’s Stream: http://www.twitch.tv/xsuperxgw2/b/522727798 starts at ~1:06:00

Screenshots:
http://imgur.com/LIbfVij
Shortly after this one the guardian ragequitted

End result:
http://imgur.com/LIbfVij,MwzXlYx#1

So ye, german casters just stomped CC let’s see how long it will take till super deletes the VOD

you sometimes get stuck when you transfer a fear with dagger#4 but there are some more trigger sofr that bug im not too sure about

havent noticed any change with it

dmg cant realy ignore toughness as the dmg formula is :

dmg=[(weapondmg*power*skillspecific multiplier)/enemy toughness]*dmg multipliers

so if it ignores toughness the first part would be something divided by 0 which doesnt work. I guess the problem has something to do with them changing the pvp item system.

Also you might look up the right Condition and Power Necro Builds. What Blackmoa posted are more hipster builds than anything else. I reccomend you try the standard builds and start experimenting when you are familliar with them and pvp in general.

there is no real standard for power builds thsi version has some upsides and maybe some downsides towards the 62006 version you probably consider standard. Fot the condi you migth have noticed that tehre was a patch a couple of days ago so the real standard hasnt settlet yet but i can elaborate on my build.
But first there has actually been a small chaneg to teh ccondi build since my post, i now run teh fear on down trait in soulreaping instead of ds cooldown because it is bugged and has no cooldown atm and also trigegrs when you fully die(bug is reported).
Ok now first things: what has changed with teh patch?
1.)Dhuumfire not reliable dmg anymore
2.)Thiefs and warriors deal more dmg
3.) Eles are run alot now, most with diamondskin
As a result you have to deal with alot of stuff you cant realy handle and have to rely on your team. But for your team to actually help you you have to survive long enough aswell and you also shouldnt become so tanky that you deal no dmg anymore. As dhuumfire is not reliabel anymore i switched to deathmagic for more toughness aswell as the staff traits. because of this you know have alot of unblockable stuff and in combination with soul marks good LF generation to keep you alife longer. Also teh 2 stunbreakers are nearly mandatory to get away from teh paintrain on you (in most game si had permanently 3 players on me, in some 4 or 5). Thats also teh reason i run warhorn, teh extra swiftness helps with staying alive and also with roaming, teh lf generation is nice to have and teh daze is anotehr unblockable cc makign oyu quite teh effective cc bot.
Ye you can go for builds liek 64004 or 46004 but you realy have to have a good team that heavily invests into peeling for you for them to work or face idiots.

you are on your staff in the screenshot(notice skillbar) and tehrefore shouldnt get stats from your greatsword

The necromancer trait “Fear of Death” (fear on down) has no internal cooldown and trigegrs on ever down(and also on every time you get finished)

sure a “friend”, i “believe” you

power:
http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=;04-4d;0kHFJ0x3sJVJ0;9;4TO;0E19B57;50;0Iwl3U;1JF04JF045o

Condition:
http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=;0_-300-kHFC0A4oIkJ0;9;5TJ-J;138C46;229-KwG4U;1hoHAhoHA2t

i refuse to give anyone a minion master build cause that could elad to them actually thinking its a good idea to use it when in fact it’s proabably teh worst build on the worst pvp class atm, but i’m sure someone else will post one here so i urge you to please dont put this burden on your “friends” team.

http://www.twitch.tv/xsuperxgw2/b/430383895 at 4:44:40, best spectral grasp moment so far xD

After taking a rest from competitive pvp i’m considering to come back to the game. I still play necro

movement: WASD
weapon: spacebar 2 3 4 5
heal: x
utility: c v q(stunbreaker here)
elite: b
dodge: e
jump: shift
weapon swap: scrollwheel press
professin skills: mouse sidebutton 1 mouse sidebutton 2 r f
look back: alt
interact: g
target switch: tab
call target: h
take target: t
stow weapon: j

As necro you should mostly focus on groupfights, ye you can 1v1 quite good but any team with decent communication will be able to snowball of a solo necro as you alck ways of disengaging once teh situation is unfavorable to you, so you shoudl only 1v1 when you realy knwo what you are doing. Some pointers for teamfights:

1.) Stay on the edge of the fight as long as you are on high health, and run towards your teammates when you are going down (preferably the guardian)
2.) When you are being focused surviving is more important than delaling damage
3.) There are 2 basic modes of fighting you have to use accordingly, one is focusing their priority targets, the other is peeling for your teammates. Obviously the hard part is knowing when to do what, so for the start focus on peeling as it will help you get better at seeing whats going on in general.
So if for exampel your mesmer teammate is being attacked by a thief just switch target on that thief and make him therefore switch into a defensive playstyle (or die) so your mesmer can deal dmg freely once again.
4.) Focus your AOE abilities on downed targets (obviously), also on your downed teammates if you cant afford to go in for a rezz yourself or while runnign tehre to rezz.
5.) Interrupt heals, rezzes, stomps or set up bursts with your fear/corrupt boon

If its black moa from EU then he used to play necro for a long time and he knows his stuff. Whether that translates into good entertainment and/or current knowledge (not seen him in ages) remains to be seen. But he was a really good necro should he should have some good insight.

Ye I am the Blackmoa from EU

to compensate it will sometimes hit people well outside the cast range

i find it quite strange that the 4 rune bonus gets changed to be more rng than before

minion master is not a good build. it is simpyl worse in teamfights than conditions while not being better in 1v1(ye it is easier in 1v1 but a correctly played condition spec is better than minion master)

http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=;0_-34;0kHFC0A4cJkJ0;9;4TJ;0J49A38;538-K-F44;1hoHAhoHA2Vz

srsly teh onyl sellign point of this gaem was that everyone was on an even lvl in pvp and you had free access to everything. First you introduced new heals which wanst big of a problem because tehy where all so bad that nobody in their right mind would ever use them but apparently you just keep going on with adding new stuff that needs to be unlocked first… you are moving further and further away from a good game and betray your own previously stated philosophys at every opportunity you get…. i am seriously dissapointed

http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=;00;3kHFC0A4cJkJ0;9;4TJ;0J49A38;539-30-G10;0ytrtbUytk-F81-NYU;23V7WD1IYN3T44q-Fc1g;5725mV05m;9;9;9;9;7V6-7e
can win 1v1 against everything, some matchups are skill based though

oh no just so used to puttign that trait in from spvp xD

basic condi build for solo and small scale fights: http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=;00;3kHFC0A4cJkJ0;9;4TJ;0J49A38;539-30-G10;0ytrtbUytk-F81-NYU;23V7WD1IYN3T44q-Fc1g;5725mV05m;9;9;9;9;7V6-7e
armor can be replaced for dire stats if you feel like it and 3rd utility can be chanegd according to your playstyle.

the one thing anet achieved with gw2 is making sure that i will never again spend money on one of their games…..(and im probably not the only one who thinks that way)

I’m willing to pay 20 coins per hour. Also, being a no-name scrubaduffalus helps getting the message out.

Goodluck!

fixi is a realy good payler and during my active tiem every top player knew him. Is he the best? prolly not, but he knows enough to teach 99% of the population quite a bit.

the npcs “block” instead of evade with their dodgerolls

and here is why not:

1. 5v4 and fighting against teams with afk
2. People on the enemy team have no idea what they’re doing
3. Fighting against r10s with a r50+ team

clearly winning soloq is much easier than teamq and shouldnt be rewarded as much

Back in GW1 I used to interrupt 0.5+ sec skills reliably, now it’s ~0.75-1+ sec skills. No cast bar really makes a difference imo. Keep in mind I’m only an average player.

back in gw1 it was also way easier to predict casts as fights where way less chaotic (dshot infuse op, nearly as good as dshot on dshot xD) but i’d say 0.5 is realiably interruptable even in gw2 with some training but certainly not something that seperates good and very good players.

Glad to see you’re still around Nemesis. Also happy my lyssa condi golem build is catching on. Been running it for months with people wondering why over plague :P Lyssa does need to be nerfed…bad.

plague actually enables you to kill warriors 1v1 rather “easily” (meaning the matchup is in your favor if plague is off cooldown), well im no one to say somethign against golem as i used it quite alot myself, but i found that i was actually more effective when running nightmare and not lyssa. Golem might give you a little bit more 1v1 power (except vs good warriors where it just gets ratehr useless quite fast) and plague enable syou too pull of some nic eplays in teamfight environments(one stability stomp more with aoe blindness or also a nice rezz with the blind/weakness denying alot of corpse cleave can be gamechanging) aswell as a short stall window which you would otherwise lack. If you dont run plague you basicaly have to run double stunbreak (worm and walk) or you are just dead meat against good teams(not saying that double stunbreak is bad, even with plague you might want to run it)

I understand that, since our bug is not reliably repeatable

it actually is, it always happens when you let deathshroud run out of lifeforce and dont deactivate it manually

Got any videos where you beat a Very Good Perma-stun Warrior or a Very Good & Mobile & Stealthy Mesmer or Thief?

actually necro wins 1v1 against an equally skilled warrior aslong as you have plague off cooldown

y it is not op ?
most r defensive boons !
they r making all the runes better . y make this under powered when they r making every rune viable .
y nerf a rune that is viable for every class !

and thats what we call powercreep. and no it’s not ok, lyssa is by far the most powerfull rune available in pvp and only good on some elite skills. in fact it is so powerfull that most people would run an elite skill that doesnt do anything but in turn has no casttime and 45 seconds cooldown(in fact that skill would be one of the strongest elite skills in the game) or if you would get a grandmaster trait that had the same effect as the (6) lyssa proc everybody would run that trait.

+1 on the fun idea
or anothe r possibility would be to just let lyssa runes convert all conditions into boons, tehy would still be strong but not as strogn as now and not be a #1 pick againbst every enemy lineup

I just noticed that it probably isn’t Anet’s fault taht this game sucks atm and changes take ages to make.
In fact Mouby is to blame. He just started playing LoL and instantly tons of bugs and conenction problems appear out of thin air an dont get fixed. So in fact it seems to be Mouby’s fault.

Well maybe Nepusan or Stasic are also to blame

NO
lowskill spam and ai + random dodges > all

just saying nemsesis but ele isnt even viable nowadays, so if he owned your team you guys where just so much worse than him. also engies with autoamted response are killable as necro.

+1 also makes soloqueue even more luck based as you often cant even see your teammates on the map.

The original post got moved out of the pvp forum so heres a repost.
Keep this alive and share.
http://www.twitch.tv/helsethgw2/c/2779775

All people that think necromancer are OP are people that have not played top 500 EU/NA as a necromancer, or they have played top 500 and suck… got killed by a necromancer… and now they want that to stop.

I don’t know a single player i consider worth listening to that doesnt think necro is op(me included)

Learn to play people… in top 500 most fights are 70% invulnerable 30% i kill you instantly… necromancer doesn’t have either of these.

necro has enough aoe pressure to force all this invuls though without even realy focusing someone aswell as good cc options and being tanky enough to sustain for some time.

After all the PvP i’ve done recently… i believe necromancer still won’t have a place at competition level play.

actually necro is already a part of competitive paly and there is no competitive team playing without one.

though tbh alot of QQ is prolly because death recap is bugged and will show double dmg from all conditions.
Ye necro is op, but so is probably every single other class and nerfing necro without nerfing other classes also is prolly no good idea.

I just started soloqueue yesterday and i am now 7:0, let’s see how it will be going the next few days

Apparently tehre was some misunderstandings concering my last post here. i didnt wanted to say that yeph and phantaram are bad players for switchign class, but that tehy are new to their classes and not on top level on them yet. Sry if anyone felt insulted =P

You should all stop QQing bout TP/TC getting disqualified. As much as i think that Teldo and Azshene deserved to play at Pax, i dont realy think that Phantaram and Xeph realy qualify as top players atm after changing class, and on top of it all, TP getting special treatment shouldnt happen.
Also you shouldnt just flame CC for complaining after the tournament. The whole thing was rather messed up, things like the team manager of TP being involved in the creation of the roster (dont want to say they got the easier opponents but stuff like this just shouldnt happen) and then the change to bo5 at the last minute when CC had to play the whole day already. Yea some of them went a bit far on the forum maybe but i think this can be understood.
I’m realy no big CC fan, well tbh mogwow and me are not realy the friendliest to each other and i dont like Posi either, but this has nothing to do with them not deserving to play at pax. Yes, i didnt realy want Mogwow to represent EU, but thats what we got now so just suck it up all you other eu guys and support them as much as you can until the event(and maybe after).

Just saying but i still have 5 second burning in the mists

So for all of you requesting all day long, here’s how to transcribe on your own:
First you have to find sheet music, you can have it printed out or find it on teh net, there’s alot of stuff available in form of guitar tabs which you can view with a program like Guitarpro or Tuxguitar(which is freeware). Once you’ve found your sheet music you have to check if it is playable on the flute. Your flute plays a major key (consisting of 7 different notes an dthe 8th of the lower octave being the 1st of the higher octave.
Which major mode the song you want to paly is written in doesnt realy matter for you palying alone, you will just use the base note of the mode as the 1st note on your flute.
Here are the Major modes for all of you that didnt enjoy music education or couldnt be bothered to remember them and the corresbpnding key signature (if you can’t read sheet music, you start with c one ledger line below the base line in a g-clef notation, notes going c d e f g a h c and so on):

#:
G Major (f#)
D Major (f# c#)
A Major (f# c# g#)
E Major (f# c# g# d#)
H Major(f# c# g# d# a#)
F# Major (f# c# g# d# a# e#)

b:
F Major (hb)
Hb Major (hb eb)
Eb Major (hb eb ab)
Ab Major (hb eb ab db)
Db Major (hb eb ab db gb)
Gb Major (hb eb ab db gb cb)

So you have to check the key signature, find out which key this is and assign the keys according to this. If tehre are any accidentals you cant play it on the flute, but be careful, alot of online available sheet msuic in form of guitarpro fiels and simialr dont put any key signature but just add accidentals, so it might look as if you cant paly it on the flute while in fact it’s just in a normal major key, so if i.e. every single f in that file has a # in front of it and no over chanegs are made it is in fact playable.

Have fun

Freya’s theme from ff9:
4 32 6 54 3 2
8 76 (3 21) 7 6
6 54 8 76 5 4
repeat

Lilium:
(1 5 2 3 3)
(1 5 2 3431)
(2)767 865678
(2343 3 2)

necro is simpyl broken and op atm, everyone who denies that is eitehr bad or in denial.
the amoutn of aoe pressure is unrivaled by any other class and single target condi burst is nearly as strong as burst specs while ignoring armor.
Also necro cann chain cc for ridicoulus amoutns of time and from a long range making it very ahrd to do anything against it….

ye necro is op and should be nerfed ASAP

My Zelda Collection:
Lost Woods:
467 467 467(32)78753 2325
467 467 467(32)78(3)75 6523
234 567 873 234 567 (123)
234 567 873
21324354657687(24) (23)
Song of Storms:
24(2) 24(2) (343431)6 62 456 62 453
24(2) 24(2) (343431)6 62 456 6 2
Song of Time:
(2) 2 4 6 2 4 6875 4562 13 2
Nocturne of Shadows:
7 6 6276 4
Bolero of fire:
42 42 64 64
Requiem of Spirit:
3 536 5 3
Serenade of Water:
2 4 66 7
Minuet of Forest:
2(2)7 676
Prelude of Light:
(2)6 (2)67(2)
Eponas Song:
(2)76 (2)76 (2)76 76

I got told by a reliable source that this patchnotes are about 2 weeks old and not everything in them will be in the patch.
The one thing i was told that ins’t in any more is the fear on wall…

sorry i didnt even notice that this torunament was going on until like the day before^^
for the next one anyone can feel free to give me a shout and i will probably be able to be the coach for the necro team.

My idea for a draftpick system would be that you dont pick classes, but utility/elite skills.
Each team may ban 3 utility/elite skills at the start(no team may use them) and then teh teams take turns in chosing their classes. Each skill may only be used once and if not enough skills would be availabe teh class cant be picked anymore (giving teams the possibility of banning a class by banning all 3 elites of that class).
After that the players of teh same classes owuld draft their utilitys.
But something liek this would take a long time to do before the tournament even starts, and there is no software available to do this atm.
Also skills liek portal are so strong that they might be always banned or the team that gets them is at a huge advantage, so maybe the system needs some tweeks, but as it is somethign i came up with in like 10 minutes that is to be expected.

Agreed, i also only got one pair of heavy armor gauntlets, and now guess what type of armor i never use…….