I thought smurfing was only done in S1 since it made the high tiers face lower tiers so they would progress to legendary easier/faster, so by that concept smurfing is not rerolling an alt acct f2p since the whole point is different
I’m sorry if you are having trouble fighting that build… Really play a d/p thief using DA/Tr/DD you will kill them you aren’t even using the skills you say you are in that build you linked, if I was to run this troll build I would get rid of SR , run SoA for more dodges get rid of HiS since it’s the crappiest heal ever and run Channeled Vigor or Withdraw since low Cd and breaks more immobs.
By the build you linked I can tell you don’t even know the basic concept behind that style of build no wonder you have issues killing it…..
If they don’t fight you back makes it easier to kill them or you know leave the objective because you are doing what they want which is keep you occupied to no avail.
There are worse builds that can achieve the same results from other classes but they can actually kill you.
So I challenge you to take this build into WvW record how unkillable you really are go for it. Or build a similar one for sPvP in diamond or legendary and prove how unkillable you are. Enlighten us and show proof
It would alleviate all the QQ threads for a while then they would have no one to blame but themselves for getting crap MMR again
Or you just get better at fighting the troll builds instead of asking Anet to cater to your inability to Defeat them, they don’t have unlimited dodges, you don’t understand the mechanics behind the dodges you must time your attacks mainly cc do that they are dead, try to get help from other people if there is more than one person pressuring then they will die very fast. I couldn’t care less that you are being trolled it’s quiet funny.
Literally a l2p issue.
The numbers are the base numbers but it’s the stacks if you can’t clear 3-4 conditions conditions with those low stacks then the issue is you and your build.
The Trait is Uncatchable which was in my above post, it’s 1 stack of bleed per sec with a total of 3 stacks in a 90 radius so not much pumping going there unless you ask inside each of the Aoe circles….
(edited by BlaqueFyre.5678)
ok so thief with 3k armor and 20k hp cant get close to me when i put wells and marks under my feet?
he totally cant dodge it while also pumping more condis on meso many experts here id really like to see videos of you fighting decent player on that build
How is he pumping more condies? Here’s something I posted a while ago.
The traps apply negligible amounts of condies, again if you die to them that is your fault, nothing op about it.
Needle Trap
Immobilize (3s): Unable to move.
Poison (10s): 335 Damage, -33% Healing Effectiveness
3 Bleeding (10s): 660 Damage
Trip Wire
Crippled (5s): -50% Movement Speed
Knockdown Knockdown: 3s
Number of Targets: 5
Unblockable
Uncatchable trait
Bleeding (4s): 88 Damage
Crippled (5s): -50% Movement Speed
Caltrops Duration: 3s
Interval: 1s
Radius: 90
The confusion is from steal on a 20sec CD and you get vulnerability from traps due to a trait, again negligible amount of damaging condies and most likely your own inability to run a proper WvW build, in any pvp mode condie cleanse is needed
So again if you are dying to about 4-7 stacks of bleeds 1 stack of poison and 5 stacks of confusion and all of those require direct placement and for you to trigger them, then I’m sorry you must not carry a single Condi cleanse and must keep AA or spamming skills…..
Those dang timed dodges, must be hax they must be nerfed thieves must not have acces to any dodges. XD
New thief elite spec: Pirate. Ties an anchor to the thief, setting your max endurance to zero. Give them shouts like “YAARRRRR.”
Elite summons a Parrot, that drops bombs in 600 radius around thief 10 sec Cd
Those dang timed dodges, must be hax they must be nerfed thieves must not have acces to any dodges. XD
Says something is an exploit doesn’t understand the meaning of the word or that Anet want thief traps to function as they do….. Look up June 23 2015 patch notes they deliberately removed direct damage on thief traps so they do not cause revealed…….
Outside of evades what sustain do thieves have? Lowest Hp pool, second lowest armor, weakest passive procs, every defense is based on active gameplay, next to know condi cleanse. No invulns, 1 block. The list goes on.
Now let’s Look at your warrior, you get Endure Pain which negates all physical damage, then you have it as a passive Proc, you have long channel blocks, powerful passive healing through Adrenal Health, Healing signet, You take fatal damage you get healed 5.2k, strong condie cleanse. On top of being able setup lock players to land the majority of your hits.
And you can break root/ immob with any movement skills i.e. Your shield 4 which is a pretty low CD.
So why should war have these advantages over other classes? Really your argument is pretty weak and yes I have played Warrior yes it’s a brain dead class I played it this season in ranked at diamond to get all of my class win achievements to finish up my Ascension. It’s a lot easier and forgiving to play than thief was……
Again they shouldn’t balance around your bad internet connection…..
High ping is not a problem with the build in general, and not something Anet should balance around, that is a limitation on you and your decision to enter pvp game modes with this latency issue.
If he wants to raid as he wants why doesn’t OP start his own group, oh right that takes initiative…
He clearly shows he can’t take constructive criticism or work well with others and won’t start his own raid groups to counter his perceived slights at being accepted into raids,
but bright side I have had a lot of laughs reading this.
…….clearly sarcasm is clear…….
Let’s see here, they run a build that has a few flaws 1 can’t kill you, too has limited cc removal outside of removing chill, cripple and immob on dodges, it would only reliably have Shadowstep and Bandits defense one of which is on a 50 sec cd the other a 15 sec cd, there are classes that can hard cc for longer than half the time of those CDs, if you can’t manage your cc skills, bait the dodges and Stun breaks to open a window to kill them is an l2p issue, then there’s the fact of any warding skill will make this build completely dead in the water.
Again I have ran into a few of these builds and as a core thief with out the stupid amount of hard cc and warding effects I can kill them, but that could just be me knowing how the class functions. The other variant actually poses a threat when there’s a chance they can actually kill you.
(edited by BlaqueFyre.5678)
MMR would need a reset if they switched to a pure MMR based system due to the horrible matchmaking they introduced with the current leagues and over 2 years of the stale pvp before the leagues, it’s apparent when you roll an alt acct and can skim through the divisions with more ease and speed on a f2p acct vs your main acct if the MMR is ranked, and I’m not even that great of a player.
No that doesn’t nullify traps, the dash one can but why waste a dodge when you can just Shadowstep in then out easy Peazey, the only dodge that does nullify is Unhindered Combatant since it will carry a thief through the traps range while all the others wall smack dab in the middle
the unhindered combatant one isn’t an issue either since the 10% damage reduction is so small on an already squishy class, again a Core thief can kill them with relative ease which has no third dodge, no modified dodges and a lot less damage modifiers. Mainly you only run into the ones running lotus training in my experience through both T1 and T2.
The confidence with which some comment on a class they don’t understand…..
They could make d/d more viable if they lowered CnD ini Cost to 4 and it would MMR be overpowered since revealed is a thing……
You can kill them. But “easy”? Nope, not going to happen. It’s not a 1v1 situation in pvp.
If a core thief with minimal condie cleanse compared to every other build can do it running Zerker amulet then it’s pretty easy, XD but that’s just my experience
Insta cast skills with related stuns are the way to go, especially when those skills hit for 1million damage and proc subsequent immobs.
Hmmm… how many classes can do that in a single button press… gonna have to think about this one.
Oooh pooh I know this one it has to be Rangers……. Or wait Engies…… No oh poop it’s them Condie Wars with all of the roots……. No that’s not right unless it’s a 20 second cd that needs the player to be 50% health, but how do I get the opponent to that if he dodges all of my attacks ??? It can’t be timing can it?
I get my material from my bunghole!!!!!????
Edit I am really surprised Bunghole is not censored as…..sured is….
The forum mods would never survive Beavis & Butthead, so it’s no surprise they lack the knowledge to put it on the list.
I hear hazmat suits are worn when approaching “the list” too.
the infamous list gets me at the most random times or I just really like to talk about Kittens….
And continue you valiant crusade through the forums, it’s always a fun read especially when you venture outside the Mesmer subforums.
You can kill them. But “easy”? Nope, not going to happen. It’s not a 1v1 situation in pvp.
If a core thief with minimal condie cleanse compared to every other build can do it running Zerker amulet then it’s pretty easy, XD but that’s just my experience
I get my material from my bunghole!!!!!????
Edit I am really surprised Bunghole is not censored as…..sured is….
(edited by BlaqueFyre.5678)
They need to have separate systems, they have tried fusing both in different ways to no avail
Season 1 was pip and MMR but had exploits able to be used, Seaon 2 was both but was set to favor everyone with high MMR more so than season and still had safety nets with a pip range enforced and season 1 exploit removed
Ross you seem to be just bitter towards thieves since they filled Mesmers role better, really they are not perma evade and any good player can kill them easily if they aren’t a bunker class.
Spirit Vale best place to solo farm.
I would love to see Anet, separate the Pips and MMR systems, either have a
-Pure MMR style system with an MMR reset
Or
- Pure Pip system without and safety nets.
And
-Coiple that with stricter Class stacking Algorithm, since the algorithm currently doesn’t prevent stacking.
I have had matches with no players swapping where one team has 2-3 of one class and the other does not.
The folks talking down about this build seem to not realize this is a Condi build. Every Dodge and Evade is pumping out condition damage. Meanwhile, if you try to hit them, the evasion of your attack procs a really strong passive heal and a condi clear. The build really starts to shine with Orrian Truffle Meat Stew.
It comes down to people won’t learn how to time attacks and mostly spam hoping to hit them, as I said as a D/P Core thief I can kill this “cancerous” Condi Thief, and core has a lot less Condi clear and heals than the DD elite spec, it boils down to a lot of l2p in all honesty, it’s like not spamming attacks while fighting a perplex Mesmer.
Ohoni, “Having a goal is good. Working towards that goal is good. But if that goal is an armor skin, then it should be open to anyone who likes that skin, not just to people who like to raid. If raiders want to work towards something that only raiders can have, it should come in the form of a title or a name-tag flair, or something like that, something they can show off to the people they imagine are impressed by such things, but without keeping armor out of the hands of players that would enjoy the armor for its OWN value, rather than just for the imagined “prestige” the item carries.”
Then they should remove every single gated skin by this logic which invalidates why they have separate skins for different content, they put these different rewarded to attract players to experience different game modes, it’s no different than me saying they should give me everything for Chuka and Chumpatawa or however it’s spelled when all I do is pvp, there is no reason for me to have to do any PvE to acquire this item by your reasoning…… Just admit it you don’t even care about the content you just want the shinies with minimal to no effort. You even stated you never wanted to do raids and won’t do raids, so why should Anet change something that doesn’t interest you to make you get your shiny easier?
The Matchmaker doesn’t look at MMR when picking 10 people it only looks at pip range, then once it has the 10 people selected they place people in each team based on MMR, the queue times are long for the outlying Divisions due to Anet artificially forcing people that don’t belong in upper divisions into Ruby, leaving Emerald and below and Diamond and above with longer than normal queue times, now this is even more exasperated by the very small pvp population.
No it’s only one additional, but that one additional pip accelerates you faster than you could imagine
Ohoni,
on your last sentiment what you believe is not necessarily the truth, I have only ever seen you and about 3 other people complain on the forums about this issue, if that is any indication of how you are trying the skew this vs the bigger number of people against such a change. Its really easy to talk about unnamed players that don’t speak up to validate your point, it’s like me saying I have so many people in all 5 of my guild slots that love the challenge it has been to work towards the Envoy Armor, and that if others haven’t put forth effort to the already released prerequisites to acquire then they don’t deserve to acquire it.
Again just because you want something to be so doesn’t mean it is, most people I know are fine with the current system the only piece that some of them don’t agree upon is the number of Provisooner tokens and number of LI needed. Just wait for your preferred game mode to get a legendary armor variant, more players have waited longer for rewards for their preferred gamemode or waited years for their gamemode to exist.
Silly WvWers thinking Anet Listens to your tears!!! They collect them and make PvE items only attainable in sPvP.
Also Portal doesn’t have the issue of Terain bugs and No valid path…
All you need is to land one immob and they are dead, also I don’t see the problem I run D/P core thief and have no issues with the build it’s annoying but if a core thief which has next to no Condi compared to every other class can kill them, idk what to say….
Overall pvp population is small as is, Stronghold is an unliked gamemode so its population is even smaller Anet can’t change that.
The problem of joinin a season late with Training wheel Pips,majority of the player base that should be spread between Amber-Sapphire were artificially dumped into Ruby, so right now Sapphire To Diamond have the shortest Queue times, while the two outliers Amber/emerald and Legendary have horrible queue times, if they removed the safety nets queue times would be spread out better.
Ohoni your arguments don’t revolve around the story, every argument you put forth is about the reward, if you make content easier and provide the same reward it devalues what others did for it since you put less effort, again the story is not gated anyone can go into a cleared instance an experience the story, he boss fights have no special cutscenes, no special dialog. Raids were not designed for everyone, the rewards are set forth for those that are willing to learn the encounters as they are and to achieve them.
You don’t want to enjoy the content you just want the shiny at the end I have seen. You in these forums and that’s the main thing that pops up, if others put in more effort they should be rewarded as such.
Yes different game modes should get a different Legendary Armor, that is of similar difficulty respective to the game mode, WvW should be the first to get this do to them not having any real rewards in that category.
I love my F2P acct running a Core thief, the only time I have found a good fight was against another f2p alt acct, but otherwise the safe pips allowed players that should never be above emerald get there
Again Raids were not made for Pugs, the legendary armor was not made for pugs as the Target audience, pugs don’t even make up the Majority of Raiders.
Ele is dependent on team comp, most times I’m in a match teamed with all dps and the other team is Ele with no engine or Reaper it’s an easy win.
You may want the set but it is acquired as individual pieces, and Legendaries are a long term goal, every Lgendary is gated behind something, if you aren’t willing to put the time or maximize your chances of achieving requirements you have no reason to complain.
It’s like me saying map completion is a huge time Gate barring me from receiving a Legendary weapon. It’s over 52 months so far since I don’t PvE.
Engie, war and Ele atm, Ele is dependant on the team not sucking in group fights.
If you play during Prime Time you will have more players and so you see a more diverse representation of player base skill.
Immob them, also any Cc kills them, I run the regular D/p thief build and kill them easily.
They stated you can still get the Ascension after the Year is over, and again the direct quote said the guarantee you the oppurtunity to follow the Path of Ascension. They will not Guarantee that everyone will get the Ascension that would be a horrible business move on their part but they can Guarantee you the Oppurtunity to work towards it.
And I am always willing to help people, if I am not on this acct I am on my Alt acct Cipher.3782, be warned this late in the season means Ruby matchmaking is horrible.
Yes the matchmaking is BS but it is workable, they either need to go back to Soley having MMR determine matchmaking or just Pips, and they should split game modes and add more incentive to team queue which tends to be more competitive overall which makes it harder.
No, it was set out as You can work on the path of Ascension to get the rewards. Not that it is guaranteed that you will get it. You haven’t met the requirements so far so you haven’t received it, everyone was allowed multiple months to achieve the item. If you started late that’s not Anets fault or anyone else’s. There is one more month to try to achieve the legendary, you do show entitlement, I have offered to queue with you as have others you have never pm’d us in game and I have been on everyday almost these last few weeks you are always offline. You haven’t put forth the full effort to achieve what you want but want it given to you.
Different specializations need buffs Da/Tri/DD is all fine but it is used with 3 different weapons sets since nothing beats them most times……
But nothing really needs buff but to be nerfed and remove all the power creep