Guild Wars 2

lazarus.1639:

Movies =/= GW2 seasons.
Noone can replay the previous season, while obviously you can watch the first part of a movie whenever you want…

You can visit the wiki whenever you want…

Kalavier.1097:

Actually, no. His mind isn’t implied to have changed at all. He’s the last dwarf (that we know of) who is sane, and isn’t part of the ‘great dwarf’ hive mind or whatnot driven to one focus, fighting destroyers.

We are stone!!

Linkville.

I don’t understand how elusive the idea of Super Adventure Box being an actual game could be. When I spoke to Moto, I could swear he specifically mentioned that it’s still being worked on. Like it’s in alpha testing, so accessibility would come and go.

I’m anxious to discover the activities of the anomaly.
Not entirely thrilled to revisit the sadistic World 2, but I still love that I figured out the gong puzzle.

darkace.8925:

Draknar.5748:

Someone posting on the forums about how horrible Living Story is because it doesn’t add any content is really just talking out of their sphincter.

So anyone who disagrees with you is talking out their kitten

Content is objective. Saying content is subjective is incorrect.
You cannot disagree with someone, when they are just flat-out wrong. There is no opinion to disagree with, it’s just not factual to say content isn’t being added.

timmyf.1490:

I can’t tell you how many guildies asked, “Where is Miner Toska?”

“The mine. Seriously?”

“Oh.”

This game teaches quite a bit of laziness and bad habits, it’ll be interesting to see if they can break the mold this far along.

The Mystic Forge can be easily located on the map, namely if you’ve discovered the Point of Interest before. Can you guess what the number one question, for at least the last two months, has been in Lion’s Arch?

khani.4786:

Boneheart.3561:

I hate Wooden Potatoes.

I don’t hate the guy, but he does bore the pants off me. :P

I’ve tried listening but I just can’t, just drones on forever.

I’m watched two videos, he came off as pompous.

I hate Wooden Potatoes.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/lore/lore/A-corrupted-Pale-Tree/4189813

Vayne.8563:

Boneheart.3561:

BlueZone.4236:

FYI, 2 + 2 = 4.
Next, you’ll tell me you don’t farm! Ha, ha.

Is that a joke? I’ve seen all too often the argument that nothing can be done in the game without farming.

Farming is a very specific activity. I gather everything while running around doing other stuff. Gathering that stuff might be considering farming, but I almost never go out to gather anything.

I don’t tend to farm dungeons. I run them when guildies need an extra guy usually. Eventually, over time, I’ll get whatever tokens I need, without needlessly going out of my way to do any specific dungeon. Is that farming?

I’ll do a few things at the end of the day see what dailies I’m missing and do them if they’re quite easy…is that farming?

Mostly I do whatever anyone else in the guild happens to need help or want company on. Is that farming?

Eventually I get enough gold, karma, mats or whatever to buy something.

I don’t consider any of that farming.

There were times I tried to farm, like back in the south sun event when everyone was trying to farm sharks for armored scales. I did pretty well for the 15 minutes I farmed. Then I got bored and went and did other stuff.

I’ve never hit DR, because I can’t keep doing the same thing over and over. I have to switch it up all the time.

We seem to play alike, except I’m not in a highly social guild :‘(
If you’re the same Vayne from [Choo], it’s so weird agreeing with almost all of the stuff you type. I vaguely remember not liking you.

BlueZone.4236:

FYI, 2 + 2 = 4.
Next, you’ll tell me you don’t farm! Ha, ha.

Is that a joke? I’ve seen all too often the argument that nothing can be done in the game without farming.

Draknar.5748:

I actually wanted exactly what they released. Not to release the whole zone at once, but let the players become part of the exploration of it. Once the LS is over and done with the whole zone will be available. This is the best possible way they could have done it. Especially since it seems they are keeping with a 2-week release schedule.

Just because it isn’t what you wanted doesn’t mean it isn’t what other people wanted.

I like that there’s things I’ve overlooked in other zones, as that’s an aspect of my character. But I love being able to familiarize myself with an entire area, especially when it’s so small. Something about the novelty of only accessing a portion of an entire zone before more is revealed the following update interests me.
I know I likely would have never seen two particular Events if the entire zone had been released, certainly fuels my desire to explore every nook of the rest of Tyria later.
The Coin Achievement was neat for this, too.

Riaky.8965:

Taygus.4571:

jiust log in once every 2 weeks, ..don’t play. in 6 months time, then play. Should have “lots of content” then.

to burn through in a few days, just as you would with an expansion.

That is not true, every 2 weeks content can finish in less than 2 hours so if u do the math for 6 months thats like 12 hours to finish all the 2 weeks contents. But if it was “Expansion” contents then it would last for months

Twenty-six hours.

How long was this game in development, what should be in an expansion, and how long do you think the expansion should take to develop?

I’ve heard they have their own Dream.

Kalavier.1097:

Eleri Tezhme.3048:

The thing about the sand river that drives me nuts, is that you have to use the sun crystals to get across… If the Zephyrites just crashed there how did the people who’d been living in the area for years get back and forth?! Bah!

Quite obviously a bridge, as the one side of the town has two wooden platforms on either end (I forget if both ends have that).

Destroyed in the crash likely by wreckage.

Likely hidden away, so as not to welcome outsiders that might stick their nose in a certain copper-powered “business”.

Konig Des Todes.2086:

I believe

kittenmit, can’t one of us just go back to the kitten instance to be sure!

Maybe and maybe.
Remember, the wreckage in Dry Top is but a section of one ship, out of a flock of ships. More ships may have crashed, other sections of this ship may be elsewhere.

Specifically, she built a Steam brain. Eventually, when the brain was threatened by a creature, the brain itself constructed Steam minotaurs for defense.

Wanderer.3248:

OP gave the impression that there would only be one. I was just pointing out that Modremoths champions are likely to be many and varied.

Why mention, specifically, that she is one of his champions. We have not a word of the others’ existence

Yeah, I was told recently that it’s not possible. Which really screws with the idea behind my norn, she’s suppose to be a descendent of my Paragon (they even have the same woad). But I suppose I could say a norn in Elona was so impressed with me saving the world multiple times that, after the furious love-making we (her and two other norn, naturally) engaged in, she decided my surname made for a good family name.

Wanderer.3248:

Dragons have multiple champions.

From a gameplay perspective, a non sessile dragon champion is a bit boring. Can you imagine how a fight against such a champion would go? Stage 1: collect firewood, Stage 2: fire flaming arrows, Stage 3: break out the marshmallows.

At least the vines and roots we have seen so far have a little bit of mobility. And they’re not exactly inspiring enemies.

Did I miss someone contesting Elder Dragon champion numbers?

I can imagine very well how a fight against a hostile pale tree would play out. Stage 1: Beat back her probing vines. Stage 2: Break through her metallic-like vine defenses. Stage 3: Survive the onslaught of dragon-corrupted, flesh-hungry, mega sylvari. Stage 4: Use Taimi’s explosives on strategic weak points of her structure, keep the vines from absconding with the explosives or mega sylvari from detonating them prematurely or else she’ll have time to repair herself. Stage 5: Boss???? Stage 6: Profit!

We’re at the edge of the Maguuma Wastes, and if the Blood Thorn is real this is the very entrance to her domain. These vines are an extremely small iceberg, above the surface.

Leallax.1482:

Ahhh I was not around for the Tower of Nightmares. I’m curious if it would have any mobility because being a stationary tree would be a little problematic, as if it was laid siege to, with enough people, people could starve it of resources and wait it out, and it couldn’t escape if it wanted to.

Well, what Ceara saw in the Eternal Alchemy (red briars wrapping around the Pale Tree), and what we’re seeing in-game, suggests the Blood Thorn could mobilize. That’s if these vines belong to her. They could be Mordremoth’s feeding on the magic, or using the Blood Thorn as a middleman, like the Mouth of Zhaitan.

Leallax.1482:

Boneheart.3561:

Leallax.1482:

Yeah, the Pale Tree has a physical avatar and gains knowledge and communicates with her children through the Dream, over which she has no direct control, and is only somewhat of a guide through it. The Dream itself originates in the Mists, so the Tree is simply a conduit. If your Blood Thorn is really like this, it would learn and communicate primarily through the same sort of Dream. It may not be the same dream as that of the Pale Tree, so the Dreams may not interfere as FlamingFoxx suggests. But the NPC Sylvari that we encounter that has not encountered the dream had no such thing. Therefore he seems to have had no real contact with his own tree, so I doubt that the Blood Thorn would be able to communicate with its children without severely freaking them out. Unless the NPC Sylvari is lying, in which case my comment goes directly out the window.

Being an Elder Dragon servant, do you think the Blood Thorn could “adopt” into her Dream with the power of dragon corruption? I felt like it went without saying in my initial post. Although, Sons of Svanir were only able to invade the Mists because they kept a Spirit Shaman on the brink of death with corrupted ice.

Perhaps, you have a point there. I’m assuming only with sylvari that came directly from Blood Thorn, though, as sylvari from the Pale Tree seem to have no knowledge or connection to the Dream of the Blood Thorn. If you are right and sylvari can be forcibly be corrupted by their mother tree (since even Soundless cannot block out the Dream or the voice of their tree completely), then I guess all sylvari players better watch out and hope the Pale Tree doesn’t get corrupted.

However I’m still on the fence about Pale Tree(s) being champion(s) of Mordy. Perhaps strongly tied, and due to their nature of being plants, of course sylvari are all going to be strongly influenced by him, but how are you supposed to fight a giant tree? Especially one like your Blood Thorn, who, if we’re to trust the words of that foreign Sylvari, doesn’t even have a physical avatar.

Well so far, the only sylvari that I theorized were “adopted” by the Blood Thorn are dead. If she just wantonly started getting hormonal, that could cause her problems what with big splashes being noticeable. As for her own sylvari, at least the single one encountered, that does seem to poke a big hole in my theory. Malyck, right? He remembers his Tree’s Dream? If I’m to theorize the Blood Thorn is corrupted, it seems like it would have to have been recent, but before the game’s story started, and right as he ends up near us?

“How do we fight a giant tree (briar bush)?” Were you not here for Tower of Nightmares? I imagine, in this instance, there would be less poisoning and more fire, assuming we can keep ourselves from being eaten, or assaulted by concentrated, dragon corrupted, super sylvari.

Leallax.1482:

Yeah, the Pale Tree has a physical avatar and gains knowledge and communicates with her children through the Dream, over which she has no direct control, and is only somewhat of a guide through it. The Dream itself originates in the Mists, so the Tree is simply a conduit. If your Blood Thorn is really like this, it would learn and communicate primarily through the same sort of Dream. It may not be the same dream as that of the Pale Tree, so the Dreams may not interfere as FlamingFoxx suggests. But the NPC Sylvari that we encounter that has not encountered the dream had no such thing. Therefore he seems to have had no real contact with his own tree, so I doubt that the Blood Thorn would be able to communicate with its children without severely freaking them out. Unless the NPC Sylvari is lying, in which case my comment goes directly out the window.

Being an Elder Dragon servant, do you think the Blood Thorn could “adopt” into her Dream with the power of dragon corruption? I felt like it went without saying in my initial post. Although, Sons of Svanir were only able to invade the Mists because they kept a Spirit Shaman on the brink of death with corrupted ice.

Mordremoth’s champion is a Pale Tree, I’ve nicknamed her ‘Blood Thorn’.

From what little I know about Elder Dragon corruption, they take little to zero direct participation in their slaves’ initiation. Jormag’s champion, Drakkar, made Nornbear, Sons of Svanir are imbued with “Dragon’s” power and can corrupt by themselves, likely empowered by a Claw or perhaps lingering energies from Jormag’s initial attack. Zhaitan’s corruption seems to work like certain zombie infections, or like Jormag’s. Kralkatorrik’s Brand doesn’t seem to want to go away, it’s just scorched earth from a breath attack but the lingering energy can bend people to it’s master’s will.

I’ve heard about there being a second Pale Tree that’s only hinted at in-game, and reading the article about what Ceara saw in the Eternal Alchemy was the Pale Tree and a red briar attempting to choke her mother. Granted, the machine was tweaked so she didn’t lose her mind completely, the introduction of Aerin (accompanied by vines, speaking to an invisible, silent voice, also sylvari) and his circumstances made me reassess the notion that Mordremoth was corrupting them directly.

From Aerin’s journal, it seemed like he became Soundless, likely during/after his corruption. But why keep a journal as an agent of an Elder Dragon, like Ceara did before become Scarlet Briar. Clearly there were still vestiges of Aerin, Aerin, and not the Aerin we fight, liked to keep a journal, so it was only natural for this new Aerin to keep doing so out of habit (like Ceara after Scarlet).

What little I know about Soundless is that they’re still undeniably connected to their mother, they just dampen the connection through meditation. But if the Pale Tree so pleases, she can make them hear her.

So, a second Pale Tree, Blood Thorn, being as much a part of Tyria, like our own Pale Tree, that they are visible in the Eternal Alchemy, is corrupted by Mordremoth and presses her will on select Sylvari when she wants a specific task performed. Ceara, if I remember correctly, didn’t want much to do with her mother, making her susceptible to the Blood Thorn’s voice, especially when exposed to her direct, raw being. Aerin, what I’m guessing, heard the Blood Thorn’s whispers, which led him to think he wanted Soundless, only to be more directly controlled by his foster mother’s voice.

I feel like I missed something, but whatever. There some cracks you can spot? Contradictory flaw? Someone already make this theory/thread?

Mad Queen Malafide.7512:

Well the flying ships are magic. But the quicksand supposedly is ordinary quicksand (or dry quicksand).

Pretty sure ordinary quicksand doesn’t cause bodily harm and damage armor.

The water from the facility in Brisban is being trickled into that quicksand river. I imagine to keep any prying eyes out of the Bandits’ supply hub.

Looks egg-shaped.

What an incredibly long incubation period.

I like ‘em. I only have to click twenty-five times, rather than two-hundred fifty times, literally sifting through sand. They’re not a reward, just something that’s abundantly all over the place. Literally.

They mentioned not being happy with how they did cut scenes/cinematics, so they’re working on them.
I liked them : (

Falathar.9215:

my thought on the LS season 2:
“that’s a bit…. dissapointing… for that much of a wait”
what are your thoughts?

Rigidly excited.

DarcShriek.5829:

Boneheart.3561:

I doubt Mordremoth is directly connected to the sylvari.
Likely, a second Pale Tree is Mordremoth’s champion and is pressing her will on select sylvari.

Remember, when Ceara saw the Eternal Alchemy, she saw the Pale Tree we know, who spoke to her, and a second plant.

What second plant? I don’t remember a second plant.

If I remember correctly, the second plant was red briars wrapping around the Pale Tree.

I doubt Mordremoth is directly connected to the sylvari.
Likely, a second Pale Tree is Mordremoth’s champion and is pressing her will on select sylvari.

Remember, when Ceara saw the Eternal Alchemy, she saw the Pale Tree we know, who spoke to her, and a second plant.

Facepunch.5710:

Boneheart.3561:

Welcome to adventuring with a couple. If you paid any attention to the story, you’d realize this is par for course.

I’m not sure how you’ve determined that I don’t pay attention to the story. I certainly do.

Maybe you misunderstood my gripe. I have no problem with a pet name here or there, or shows of concern for one another when danger is brewing. What I’m saying is that it feels forced. It’s like the writers have a checklist at the start of the episode that they want to quickly recap salient points for newer players, and at the top of that list is Marjy <3’s Kas and Kas <3’s Marjy.

They’re a very PDA couple, have you never even heard of those people? I am friends with one, it’s worse than you could possibly imagine, especially if you think Kasmeer and Marjory are playing it up. You would shove your fists in your ears to rip out your eyes.

OtakuModeEngage.8679:

FlamingFoxx.1305:

There wouldn’t be a legitimate lore explanation for using crystals anywhere else, so hopefully we don’t have to worry about it. The excuse for where we are in is that the crystals fell off the ship when it crashed, but there shouldn’t be crashed ships anywhere else, so there shouldn’t be crystals.

I don’t know, following Aeren to the western area of the map there were still crytals, and that’s pretty far from the crash sight in my opinion. the best explanation, is because the master of the zephirites and Aeren were carrying them with them. Well, we killed Aeren, but there is still the master and the inqest to spred them, so I have this dreadfull premininition that we have yet to see the last of the aspect crystals… don’t get me wrong, its an interesting mechanic, and has nice lore behind it, but hopefully it does not become a standard in gameplay

I was convinced the Master of Peace was helping you. Notice the Rucksack on his back.

The one thing I strongly dislike about this discovery, is that Abaddon is no more… Unless the Six can go to the Mists as well?!

I keep seeing theories connect Mordremoth directly to Sylvari. Has anyone suggested that a second Pale Tree (Red Thorn?) is Mordremoth’s champion, and by nature of Pale Trees can force her influence upon sylvari?

Eggman.1405:

Alice.8694:

You’re still considering this to be Scarlet’s abode… It is not.

Well, it is, or how else do you explain the hologram that has entries from both before and after her transition into madness?

In her diary, she states that her further entries will be recorded remotely(?). The hologram doesn’t cover any of what she does against the world, just how she has changed after viewing the Eternal Alchemy. She still makes these entries, after becoming Scarlet, because vestiges of Ceara remain and it was Ceara’s habit to keep a diary.

Seems the hologram was advanced enough to pick up the voice of whatever Ceara brought back with her.

Diknak.8534:

I really like the setup, but I only have one complaint:

I don’t like the fact that the achievements were locked until we completed the entire story. For example, none of the Seraph workers died the first time I did Disturbance in Brisban . . . I shouldn’t have to do it again just to get the achievement.

I honestly don’t know how you thought this was a good idea. This goes completely against industry standards and it seems like a cheap way to force replayability. Please don’t do this again.

Did some of them die the second time?

DarksunG.9537:

Boneheart.3561:

Facepunch.5710:

In general I thought the dialog was improved compared to last season. It would be nice, though, to not have an obligatory “let’s remind everyone that we’re gay for each other” exchange between Kas and Marj at the start of every episode.

Welcome to adventuring with a couple. If you paid any attention to the story, you’d realize this is par for course.

Right, because of the browbeating & emasculation Logan gets when he’s in the vicinity of the Queen & Anise is just like that. No, they just don’t know how to do couples..

I’m unclear on the similarity you’re pointing out between Kasmeer/Marjory and Logan.

Alice.8694:

… godawful sandwich making mini game during a picnic scene.

Oh god, lol!

[Group Event] Fight off the ants before they abscond with your sandwich fixings!
Ants Empowered by sandwiches: 89%
Bread loaves recovered: 5
Prosciutto recovered: 19
Miracle Whip recovered: 0

lnguy.5127:

Menzies the Dire

Fix this, please.

Eggman.1405:

Alice.8694:

Position? Company? Game?

I worked for Stainless Steel Studios, Inc., on Empire Earth and Empires: Dawn of the Modern World. If I say more than that I’ll lose my anonymity.

Boneheart.3561:

Dunan Atreides.5436:

I agree with the ‘epilogue’ sentiment. Eggman, would you feel different if you framed that last instance as just a very juicy ‘epilogue’?

Thinking about it, I think if they broke into Scarlet’s room first, then went to get Aerin, that would’ve been worked better in terms of structure.

What would connect Ceara to Aerin, or even Master of Peace? Are you saying the zone/Story should’ve started by the town and before the Sanctum crashed?

As it is, there is no real link. You show up in town asking about the crazy Silvari and learn that there are apparently two crazy Silvari, Aerin and Scarlet. There is no link between the two that is revealed in this chapter (unless I missed something, which is possible).

If you moved part 3 to the beginning instead of the end, then you find Morning in town attempting to be healed. She drops clues before dying about a crazy Silvari, but you discover that Scarlet is the only one the people in town have heard of (as the story ends currently). After the bit at Scarlet’s house the crew realizes that they are at a dead end for now and leave town to look for clues, segueing into the encounters at the wrecked airship. Then you get the boss fight at the end and the Master of Peace leaves you hanging with a bit of unresolved mystery. Again, the story content as such is fine. Just improve the delivery a little bit.

I get the concept of a `let’s just breathe out slowly` epilogue, but there isn’t enough for the player to do to justify it as its own stand-alone subchapter. Everything that happens could have been relegated to a cutscene that players could then skip if they didn’t want to see it. Or, leave all that stuff as things to find in the exploreable area to reward players who like poking around.

It seems like all the Zephyrites that know of Aerin, know that he’s after the Master of Peace (who is in immediate danger). Even if not, a burning wreckage seems like a more pressing issue than a house that isn’t going anywhere. To completely reverse this order, the Sanctum would have to crash after you get to Dry Top, interrupting your discovery of Ceara’s house and knowledge of bandit operations. All of this after an exchange with Marjory’s sister, whose company has come with us.

Investigating Ceara’s house gave me the leisure of reading and analyzing her possessions, without the interruption of nearby enemies or the lure of combat. Placing story elements outside of the Story to be easily ignored, or create confusion from lack of context won’t make much of a story. A cutscene where Marjory tells me “look, here, at what I’ve found” probably won’t make any sense, but I did hear they’re working on creating better cutscenes, I think.

Inculpatus cedo.9234:

I did. Picked up a lost coin. Was there supposed to be something else?

So that’s what that was.

Mickey Frogeater.1470:

If the Master of Peace is the villain what did he do in Cantha?…..

Is it too much to assume that he conquered it while we were fighting Zhaitan and Scarlet Briar?

I think not!

The question will be: Do we kill the Master of Peace in Season 2 or in a Cantha Expansion?

All of Tyria is revealed.
Blood Legion homelands are sieged and reclaimed from the Sun’s Shadow Legion.
Drakkar is a World Boss that has to be defeated to access a new dungeon.
Lazarus the Dire is hunted down and finally corned on Ring of Fire, flinging players into Largos politics in the Unending Ocean.
Maguuma is revitalized by purifying the second Pale Tree.
Tengu reveal their floating city, while fighting Destroyers underground.

“Why aren’t we in Cantha, TrashNet. You idiots can’t do anything right.”

Dunan Atreides.5436:

I agree with the ‘epilogue’ sentiment. Eggman, would you feel different if you framed that last instance as just a very juicy ‘epilogue’?

Thinking about it, I think if they broke into Scarlet’s room first, then went to get Aerin, that would’ve been worked better in terms of structure.

What would connect Ceara to Aerin, or even Master of Peace? Are you saying the zone/Story should’ve started by the town and before the Sanctum crashed?

Kalavier.1097:

What do you mean?

Go to Prosperity, jump into the well.

Hilarious, I thought this puzzle was too easy, completed on my first try. Getting to the diving goggles has me vexed, I’ll be going back up for another look.

Facepunch.5710:

In general I thought the dialog was improved compared to last season. It would be nice, though, to not have an obligatory “let’s remind everyone that we’re gay for each other” exchange between Kas and Marj at the start of every episode.

Welcome to adventuring with a couple. If you paid any attention to the story, you’d realize this is par for course.

Destai.9603:

Falathar.9215:

my thought on the LS season 2:
“that’s a bit…. dissapointing… for that much of a wait”
what are your thoughts?

I was excited to see the new zone, thinking it’d be huge and complete. Nope. I should have known better.

It is complete. Dry Top was always this small.