Guild Wars 2

Mesmers really have no means to attack players efficiently on walls now, iberserker was the only one that was a viable option but yeah the rest is history i guess. Well at least they didn’t nerf the temporal curtain, that would’ve made me stop playing my mesmer in wv3 since it’s the most fun thing to do with a mesmers besides 1v1.

also noted, illusions attack only every 15seconds or so i believe unless you have phantasmal haste trait, which lowers it down 20%.

Yes i agree with Hexin about bashing current commanders on your server. Even if it is true and bothers you, just try to keep it to yourself, also it’s against ToS to name down individuals.

I really didn’t think it was so OP that it took that much effort to kill one phantasm, seeing as it’s the mesmer’s ONLY way to attack you from above on a tower really if your far back enough. Also think about it, you would have to leave your siege regardless if an ele was raining meteor shower on you. or you could take it, but if you do there shouldn’t be a complaint for a berserker, unless its a OP mesmer hitting you for 6-8k on a berserker. Seeing as there’s many classes that can just AoE you and your siege anyways.

So lame. I loved being able to comment the other players for good fights, well i guess a salute/bow will have to do, it just won’t be that good i guess.

I’m already missing the phantasmal berserker without a LoS. Also does blind really stop you from throwing out clones/phantasm? because that would be super lame.

Yes i believe they should implement a system where you can set down funds into that tower/keep instead of mailing it to one player to que upgrades. That way anyone who passes through can all just donate 1s each if they were willing.

highly doubtful that HoD/ET will bump down before the next tier servers with how the ranking is set up. It’s set to even if you getting totally destroyed you won’t get bumped down a couple of tiers, maybe just 1.

Also have you guys asked them to leave/unrepresent the guild?

Not at all, i’m just saying i understand the frustration of a lone man trying to find a new home. I mean if anything sorry because i really don’t know much about ET as it was overshadowed by the super server HoD.

People buy this game to enjoy it, and if it’s going to take weeks for HoD to be placed into a tier that they can handle, it’s just not fun. I honestly won’t play a game that’s just not fun, and i’m assuming this player has already reached max level and is fully gear, and doesnt want to pve much anymore.

I also understand your perspective of wanting people to show server pride and stick it out, but unfortunately with how the ranking system is it’s not efficient for how HoD ended up. It works great going up the ladder but awful going down it. HoD seriously got slaughtered from what i heard for just 4 weeks straight, when it shouldve just got bumped down 2-4 tiers after it’s initial slaughter.

@ askil

Its understandable that you didn’t want to be a part of a zerg, but being allianced with them you should keep in touch especially during the battle, because truth is you CAN’T win without a zerg. Coordination with small scale forces taking camps would’ve really provided input as well as your scouting knowledge while going on ahead of the zerg. Also what did you expect from being in a big alliance anyways? 20 small scale teams just taking out camps?

From a random guy

Well spacelord, i’m not for sure but i believe GoM is in the next tier above us, and if you guys are able to bump up with one of the other server getting bumped down, you could potentially see them this week or next.

If you’re playing from EU in a US server, there’s a good chance it is even if you have smooth connection doing other things. But of course it’s just speculations.

@ Mclovin

You see there’s a difference, your server was able to pull itself back together. Also your server wasn’t a t1 server that had a huge alliance of 2000+ players quit all at the same time, getting destroyed so badly every week til they hit this spot. But also granted i’m sure there’s a good amount of transfer ins and out as well, but for HoD, I don’t even know of anyone who would want to transfer to this sinking boat, and from the looks of it, they aren’t pulling themselves together.

PS.

No offense but most likely HoD will fall down to the bottom tier within 3weeks with the potential of being the worst server if it doesn’t pull itself together.

It’s really easy to say that but for those who haven’t experienced it personally i don’t think you guys should be so quick to judge. Theres a difference between bandwagon, and those want to find a better home. HoD has been falling down the ranks for how long now? at least 4 weeks. I don’t know what the real issue is in HoD, but if someone who has stuck with it for this long, and hasn’t seen any changes that benefits the server as a whole, I believe they’re entitled to have a choice, because it’s not fun getting zerged, it’s not fun to do uncoordinated attacks, and even when you mount a small man group of 5 or so to take camps, it’s never as satisfying as capturing a keep with enemy defenders and not just PvD. (also noted, the enemy server should be able to easily read your movements and will zerg the heck out of you.)

Would you play this game if you couldn’t transfer server and had the worst server possible with no changes? Because honestly I think HoD might be in this situation.

I just love it when the zerg ceases to learn. Also i laughed when i saw they even built a balista in front of your spawn. They must’ve really wanted those badges. I would be ashamed to be on that server, where a whole entire zerg of 30+ wiped out to legendary defenders and 3 guys.

basically there really isn’t any item like that, because I’m sure anet didn’t want that. The very best weapons you could have would be legendaries. But let’s not even get started about that, seeing as you’re a far way from it. Unless you want to buy gold from gold sellers, you won’t even be able to attain legendary for a good while. There really isn’t any random generated gear stats, everything will have the base stats but just different looks.

Also the best gear without a doubt would come from PVE for many reasons. Badge farming is way too slow to even get the 80’s exotics. They only have one stat which is power/toughness/vitality. They look ugly.

Like I said, it’s basically just for fun, It’s all about end game content really.

What would you do if you was fully geared, max level, and had nothing to do?
You either quit the game, or you play wvw.

Also i’m not sure if you’re refering to pvp as Spvp, because that is way different, and all items in SPvP is the same, to basically let all players have an equal chance to play competitively without gear grinding.

There really is no reason to represent a guild in a different server, seeing as guesting doesn’t exist yet, and also what purpose would it serve? Honestly it’s understandable not all players will transfer, but those who don’t should stand down, or the guild leaders should boot them, if they choose not to.

I honestly want to just do it for the fun, since i love good fights, but i’m quite tired. Maybe another day though. Add me and anytime you feel like it, i’ll come. well cept for this week and weekend, i have a lot of exams coming up.

The Titan alliance broke up, (The biggest alliance in HoD) at least that’s what i believe they are called. Someone correct me if i’m wrong.

1. No, if you’re crafting/dungeon farming it’s WAY FASTER
2. questing??? there’s only objectives, such as take or defend tower/keep/supply camp.
3. I’d advise against it, since ur a low lvl player getting scaled, up, since monsters are stronger and only give same amt of xp as a monster your lvl.
4. It’s relatively the same, but it’s just way harder in wvw, because players are harder to kill, and monster killing is inefficient.
5. Items are for all parts of the game, except for badges, which you turn into a badge vendor for items. (used for pve/wvw) Well you could also get blueprints which are only for wvw.
6. no. adjusted to your pve lvl. sometimes worse.
7. ask the map/team chat, for what objectives to capture. Or follow around the commander if there is one in that borderland (blue icon tag on the map)

wvw is meant to be a fun experience, so don’t expect to level up faster than pve. There’s a chance you could level up faster, but it just means you would have to be capturing that much more objectives to come close to it. Ascalonian catacombs explore mode will give around 70-90% of your level up alone on completion, and depending on how fast you complete it you could be leveling up 2 levels per hour. Guess what the good news is if you farmed the dungeon a billion times as well? the tokens you get can be turned in at a vendor for your lvl 80 exotics. It just might not be the ones you’re looking for stat wise.

Cyanstorm.9613:

I am Kain, I am a warrior from Ferg, I want to have a 1v1 vs any warrior or guardian from either Kainegs or Devonas, if he beats me I am rewarding him with 5 gold. As I am supremely confident in my abilities I hope to find a likewise opponent.
I will be awaiting your answer.

What if i played a super OP mesmer that everyone seems to always hate? I don’t but i could. Also i couldn’t and wouldn’t spare you 5g if i lost.

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Nvm i see you specified warrior/guardian.

Toxophile.6215:

And the process feeds on itself. There is no chance in hell I am going to stay on this server. I want to have fun in WvW. I am therefore required to transfer to one that isn’t 15 feet below the bottom of the pack. I will end up reinforcing the cycle of imbalance. But the only other option is to stay and let other guys have all the fun and I get to sell loot and resources to pay for my repair bills.
ANet really should do something about this. Put a more aggressive buff in for the team at the bottom of the rank commiserate with the beating they are taking. For the screenshot referenced above, I’d say a 300% across-the-board buff would suffice until the bottom team closes to within a reasonable distance of the other teams. That means 2 times the damage, 3 times and health, 3 times the duration of boons, and 3 times the XP/Karma/Loot.
Once all 3 teams are within a “fair” range of each other, them buff goes away. This means the better team will still stay on top, but it won’t be a blowout, and everyone gets to have fun.

I think the amount of buff your talking about is a little extreme, there’s a good deal of classes out there that can easily burst out 10-15k dmg in 5seconds or less, so doubling that would mean a lot of people just getting instant killed with no time to react back. But i think you were just saying that to get an overall explaination, which i do agree with to an extent.

Well i was never really here to convince you to swap servers, we provide alot of that, but just saying, its hard to get a zerg group to read the chat, there’s many that do, and many that don’t that’s just going to happen alot of the time for some reason.

Good Luck in BP, I hear they’re quite competitive.

Inuko.1452:

DaYeL.1495:

Is very fun you tell you are 150 ppl.
I have to remeber you, you have to say the REAL active member you can deploy on the field, that is not more than 10 ppl.

Your guild was invited to exit from the Alliance cause you speak about great plans, but never done something for the World. 1 day per week taking 2 camps is a bullkitten for an alliance.

So go to deploy your brave men on FA or others winning servers. Lefters are the cancer of this game.

Have fun on Server Top server.

DaYeL
MdA Officer
Whiteside Ridge Commander

DaYell

I pride myself on remaining respectful throughout forums though you clearly have no clue. The pure fact it took you almost 10 days to spot this post shows your alliances approach to current affairs. Not once have we claimed to be 150 strong, perhaps English lessons required too?

Furthermore – I’d suggest that the commanders and guild leaders we have liaised with on Fort Aspenwood would testify to a small and organised force dedicated to making a difference. We’ll let our playing do our talking, and continue to liaise with those members of FA as required.

This is the exact attitude we left to avoid….

SO

Perhaps look to your lines young man and question why a server in tier 4 would welcome the difference this move and this post has made and spend a little less time shining that blue badge by your name.

Enjoy the floods

Tirol

Not to be rude as it’s no quarrel of mines, but your very opening post for this OP says 150 strong moving to FA.

lol shannanigans, I’ve heard that HoD is a sinking ship now, but i just didn’t think it would be that bad. For those who don’t understand the frustration it’s quite irritating. i was on a server for 7 weeks at least, and nothing about them changed, and it only got worse, no signs of progression, so i jumped server. Not to bandwagon onto a server to auto win, but to a server just to play the game casually and have fun, could care less about the score.

idk, i don’t necessarily mind losing, i just don’t like uneven matches. I love great fights, but been too busy to play much, will be on this weekend but not for wv3, for SoS events. Also for the record, Kaineg has lost 99% of it’s matches, but we’re quite still proud.

Yes i am hmong, I had around 9ish or so irl friends who started up with me as well, but they went back to LoL and HoN.

Yea that about describes our server as well, right now we’re massively outnumbered because alot of people wanted to bandwagon onto the winning server totally destroying the balance. Well sorry to hear that you won’t come, i don’t think i will come over as well, since i enjoy my server’s relax atmosphere. I love not having que’s for any BL at all. Lemme know if you’re considering swapping servers in the near future. We don’t really have any super large size guilds, most of our guilds are medium sized with around 150ish average. Our guild is alianced with 4 seperate guilds and we share a teamspeak together. Everything is well coordinated, and we always used to win our primetime fights, but not lately because the winning server is able to put out more players now, filling up around 3 Bl while we can only manage 2 bl at best.

well be sure that i won’t be in wv3 with you guys lol. I hear there’s alot of new items coming such as the ascended items, limited time things, so i would much rather get them seeing as wv3 is a neverending battle anyways. And most likely they were deleted, alot of people seems to have reported my posts when they weren’t even offensive, granted some were.

Chris.4527:

Draygo.9473:

You are a little off.

Devona isnt putting any effort in attacking your BL either, thus you could upgrade it to maximum.

You guys still don’t get it at all. We focus our whole server into one map, we barely venture out. Our map 70% of the time has 20+ devonas running around during the day hours that we’re constantly fighting. I ventured to kain map the other day after seeing you guys hold your garrison for nearly 5 hours. You guys still had paper walls/gates.

With that kind of crap, how do you expect to hold off against 50+ devonas? Yesterday SoS came in and wiped everything of ours but our garrison, we barely held that, there was so many of them during the day hours. It took us not even 2 hours to get everything built up back to what it was before so our day crew could somewhat “hold” everything.

Try actually defending, put your people in one map and focus them down that way. Half your server or more than half runs off to EB then you lose everything. So don’t start the “devona only hits us kitten”.

Not for sure but my speculation of why we have paper gates is because seeing as they flip at least every hour, it’s pointless to spend money and time to hold it. I won’t say there is or isn’t much dr on your bl or not because i’m never really there much. I won’t be playing much til the weekend but when weekend rolls around i’m sure 60% of us will be doing the events.

SpaceLord.4590:

Oh my gosh, that is like the third time this week I have actually agreed with Bones, I must be getting soft in my old age j/k

I also see no problem with camping a jumping puzzle, although those 5 or more people could be out capping points for the team. It’s honestly a waste of my time to camp a jump puzzle, i would much rather camp a tower/keep, even a supply camp is better. But i’m more of a frontline fighter where the action is.

I never even go to the jumping puzzle, seige is too easy to buy with badges to aggravate myself with those lol

Oh and Darwin, that post was LOL

What? that must be crazy for you to agree me with 3x this week lol. when was the first and second.

In the pics i see FC not attacking, but nothing stating a truce. It’s just more like individual who choose not to attack, and besides you guys also had them outnumbered. I personally don’t attack others in the jump puzzle unless they attack me first. I’ve even had an attack from an individual from a server and his server mates didn’t help him because of their choice of no hostility in the jump puzzle. I know it’s annoying to have to go against a group of people who camp the jump puzzle but it will ALWAYS happen regardless, because not everyone reads forums, and not everyone wants to be friendly.

The best strategy is not actually strategies, but rather how you counter them. It’s how you read other server’s initiative and moves. From there you play accordingly. Strategies should be thought up off in the heat of battle and not written down, because you can’t say that one strategy is a guaranteed win.

I doubt i would transfer servers to maguuma, as i like my server as is. We love primetime fights, they’re the best, but we hardly win due to lack of time coverage. Not trying to convince you to jump servers but would be nice to have more come to kaineg. (we’re a t8 server btw lawls)

quite curious to see how many players you guys have and active as well. are you guys a mainly wv3 active guild? or just pve focused?

Ender.3508:

We had a nice lil truce there the other day.

I’m pretty sure that didn’t turn out well, considering what we’re talking about now.

I don’t see any problem with camping the jump puzzles. It denys the other teams badges/blueprints. While i believe it’s a waste of time, i also see why people would do it, but highly doubtful that it’s for those purposes, more like trolling purposes. Also it’s quite impossible to have one whole entire server agree to not open fire, because there will ALWAYS be someone who wants to PK in the JP, which would just lead to, omg there was a truce.

@ dred

No offense but i’m sure the reason this thread was made, was to basically avoid the spam kitten talks from DR in the other OP. It’s quite tiring to look at the endless spam of “omg we just owned you guys at random offshift hours, but good job for the defense you guys put up.” The OP has more replies than the top tier servers, now doesn’t that just say something? but of course this was before the moderators deleted a lot of posts.

Sumwun.3846:

I few short weeks ago, DR slipped into last place with a higher population than K. K got some transfer relief at one point, I’m not too sure what happened with it.

DR has gotten transfers, but about a month ago I posted about all the lowbies I saw leveling up and predicted we would have greater numbers from that alone. DR’s numbers are up, that’s obvious but I think K and Ferg should be working us over, it’s possible.

Ferg has a good group of people locking down their borders. K and Ferg need to pick a map and give it hell. Force DR to send large numbers to two different locations on Their map. Whatever forces Ferg sends to K are wasted two fold. You will not get enough points to threaten DR weakening K. And you are weakening the only other force who can actually help you fight your true threat, DR. you weaken yourselves thinning out to fight K allowing DR to fight you somewhere they choose.

Don’t think of how you can win, think of how to make DR fall. if DR falls, then the race for first is on. Before that you are only fighting over last place.

Ferg and K can put a hurting on DR even at 5 to one Odds. You just need to pick those fights in the right place. out in the open, zerg vs zerg isnt it. behind and over walls is where you take DR out. Invade one piece at a time. hold it, build it and use it to start weakening your next target. It’s only Monday there is no need to rush on caps you cant hold.

Also, if you feel that it’s all numbers and ego pummeling you all into the cold hard ground, use your superior mind set to divide DR any way you can.

We can win the fights, what were saying is we can’t do a 24/7 coverage like DR, (not saying you have epic zerg fest during those offshifts, just saying ur offshift players are greater than ours by that much) Even if the infamous kaineg ferguson alliance that some people keep speaking of was to happen, i doubt we could man enough players to deny your win. We could maybe turn out to an even battle during primetime, but thats just a 6hour battle, what about the other 18hours? Don’t get me wrong, i’m personally one of those people who don’t look at scores tbh, because this is kaineg, we’re used to losing, due to a variety of reasons, but we come to wv3 for the battles not the win.

lmao o snowman your so funny, i’ll be sleeping tonight thinking about your post. Quite happy that the kaineg player’s respected you enough to wait for you to get your skill point because i know how it feels to almost kill the npc for a skill point and get killed having to waypoint back, and no it was not me.

Also congrats to DR, you have developed the qualities of a top tier server, who likes to talk trash, only cares about winning, likes to throw out numerous accusations of hack/botting/exploit (granted botters are real tho in ALL server).

I would find maybe even a portion of your state partly true Dred, but you guys fail to even mention any guilds besides the few listed. You yourself just now admit to having 70players online, with around 40ish players in wv3. Our alliance on a good night pushes out 40 player. so when you add your other 7-8guilds with your 40players already in wv3, that seems like your understating your numbers drastically. also how could you possible take a picture with all your numbers including our numbers, it’s much easier to look at an enemy group and take a pic of theirs, instead of all sides.

You want to know the difference between me and you Dred. You want to win it all. taking all credit regardless of you even listing other guilds out there, your post is so stuck up that it’s basically you boasting to no end. Our alliance is out here to enjoy the game. and we win most of our primetimes. Our numbers equal up to around 40 or so per night (this does not include randoms we pick up while running around), which is nothing compared to what you say where you put out 40 per guild. Kind of funny how you want to be a top tier server, but we’re placed in a bottom tier server listing.

How do i make you laugh? you say you’re a prime time server, so i’m just simply challenging your server to see who has a better primetime. it’s fine to decline, but no need to go write an essay why you would lose. We won’t look at you and say cowards because if you decline i’ll assume its cause you guys feel you won’t win or is simply busy on friday.

And yes Dred we all know it’s definitely not PRO who is shuting us down, its the whole of the server, which most of our players are casual players who gets of work/school and comes to play, we apparently cant defend our keeps and BL from work/school. But for those who are there wv3 for us during our off shifts, i give thanks. I give props to your off shift for your win, because truly without them, you would have lost.

Also could you shorten your post. it’s such an eye sore, i’m quite sure it is for everyone because when you need 2 full pages to fill statement, it’s probably repetitive and over exaggerated.

I haven’t played at all tonight so i can’t take any of this credit but look at a TRUE prime time lead, also look at the time here. This is from us having to capture all these keeps that are probably fully fortified already with decently high supplies. GJ to those that were there.

Also at people who say we outnumber you guys, maybe it’s your render error you keep saying, maybe your pc is loading your players slower than ours, because we all know they load up the most important things first. jk

We don’t mean to say you guys aren’t organized, but simply saying we put out about 40players total in our whole alliance per night usually, 20 from war, 20 from ispy. When PRO already puts out 40, and all the other players add to this. Also we have no ego-driven commanders in our alliance. We all know who’s good in our alliance and who we want to lead us, when he logs off we go to the next guy in line and so forth. We don’t consist of just zerging as we always have a couple skirmish group doing other things.

@sirenic
Funny how you say you guys were in lead during primetime weeked. I recall a post about you complaining saying we’re weekend warriors and it’s the reason we took lead. I disagree, we’re primetime warriors.

You like to say alot of nonsense, i give props to DR night crew for really stepping up, They were the reason you guys closed a 17k point lead we had on you guys OVERNIGHT. And every night it has been like this, but we have showed up during prime time and won most of our battles. But ignorant people will be ignorant, though your ego may not be as big as Dred, it’s definitely the same quality. i don’t really know how a guy like dred can say Server pride, He jumped ship to DR, complains about the lack of 24/7 pressence, leaves to Kaineg, harasses the whole server, comes back and says i have SO MUCH pride in my server. If Dred is the type of people you have in PRO, then I’m sorry to say the quality is quite ill in your guild, but i’m sure that’s not the case. You can have the win Sirenic, but we as Kaineg don’t really care, we won our primetime fights.

As of right now DR has the better 24/7 coverage, those who disagree must really be ignorant. Our prime time fights are decently equal, but I will have to say we lead most of them. I have not been on tonight since I’m busy with schoolwork, but it’s something that leads over a game. We don’t look at the score, we look at the battles, and the battles were won.

But wait i thought PRO only had 20ish player active at a time and is making a HUGE impact on your server, so why are you saying another 20 is nothing? For all you know they could be better than PRO.

It’s funny when people keep changing the words in their mouths to something else later on.

Also like spacelord said, we all have different times we can play, it’s not like all of kaineg is online 24/7 so there’s really no chest thumping needed. We love our primetime fights and for all we care we could lose and still be happy with our results, because of what we did. We did our job during primetime so we’re satisfied.

But my previous post is because Dred is ALWAYS saying primetime wins. There’s only one real way to dispute this. So i offer a challenge on reset, take it or don’t doesn’t matter, but just let it be known we shouldn’t complain about the outcome, if you guys actually best us in this friday’s primetime, i give you guys props, if we win, i hope there’s not a load of “but we have a life or you guys hack/exploit/render bug/cheated/etc”.

I know all of you pro players aren’t as obnoxious as Dred but could you tell him to tone it down, he’s such a attention hog as 20%+ of this OP is his nonsense.

Also if i might add, NoQQ is the BEST small man sabotage team i’ve seen here in this tier. They are even better than the sabotage team from Baltimore style from DR who i also praise as a good sabotage team.

Let it be known that the flame ram signature tombstone goes to NoQQ. If i wasn’t actually using my prints or donating to guild for personally use i would be throwing down flame rams as gravemarkers for PRO players as well.

i really didn’t wanna come back to forums, but seeing as shananigans came and is right, might as well for one more post or two.

@ sirenic
you don’t see us in wv3 much because maybe WE have lives, we are hard working students/people with jobs, and we come online during primetime. There is a website link that shows ppt and hourly points gained, but i don’t remember this link, so if someone has this link please post it up.

Yes it is increasingly difficult to come online during prime time to have only a few things and have to lay down siege to fully fortified keeps, we pull it off somehow, but guess you guys just think its cause of zerging.

Its increasingly funny seeing Dred’s post of primetime wins at 3am. and other peoples pics of wins during 2pm. I hardly ever see your guys pics of primetime wins. You guys say we have more players at night time then we do at prime time which is also way funny, when you guys listed out guilds, there were only a few guilds from our servers listed, Noqq/SoS/War/ispy/KAIN compared to your list of 7-9 guilds. Over the weekend you complain about how you guys have lives, and now during weekday days where our lives mean more than a game you say we have lives and we dominate 24/7, funny how that works when you’re on a game 24/7. Like Shananigans said, we welcome all challengers. We remember the days of being outnumbered severely, and even now we’re outnumbered, not as much, but still outnumbered. Those who say otherwise is full of it. You guys keep saying you don’t put out more than 20 players in wv3 during primetime, but i see a zerg of 30 of you guys in fights. with gasm/red in the mix as well.

So all and all, i will give props to the efforts you guys put up during primetime as from my recollection we won about 70% of them, and the win for your night crew DR. Also your day crew.

If you really want to see who has a better primetime, lets see this go down, during friday’s reset when we aren’t forced to lay siege to fortified keeps. 8pm-12am PST

Here is my summary of everything.

First off i don’t think we necessarily care if we win or lose, WE LOVE FIGHTS. Those that were here before me remember the days of when kaineg was 10man vs 100, that wasn’t me, it was people like fubuki, mr girl guy, and others whom i can’t remember. True Fubuki wanted people to come to Kaineg, but not for selfish reasons of becoming the underdog and rising to the top. I haven’t spoken to him in a while, and as he has retired from forums, because of ALL this nonsense. I can’t confirm his beliefs in all this, but i believe it, and it’s why i came to kaineg.

We want challenges, cause we crave it, we want you to be able to compete not dominate, even if we lose. My alliance as a whole from what i can tell never really wanted to win, they just wanted to outplay everyone else, and if winning happens from our strategies and our fun time, well props to us.

Things have gotten hostile, reason 1, PRO guild leader sirenic accused us of hacking, not once, not twice, 3×. He has been wrong all 3 times, and admitted to 2 of them from what i can recall. Now just saying if you have been wrong about the same guild 3x already, why would you constantly accuse us of hacking, exploit, etc, when you yourself have people in your guild who have gotten out of line cough Dred. It wasn’t 1x that we’ve proven to you that you had a PRO player come to kaineg. It was at least 2x from what i can remember, one being some random, and another being Dred. So far that’s 5x your guild has stepped out of line, with you having a part of 3 sirenic.

Our forums used to be able to just give props where due, but now guess what, it’s all about rage and anger about this and that, it’s seriously frustrating. The 5 thieves that held you guys off at the supply camp, that deserves some props when they were up against 30, granted they were stealthed most of the time, but it means that you as a whole needed to coordinate. The thieves weren’t partied up together, nor were they all in teamspeak, some were i believe, but they were able to coordinate without teamspeak.

We can argue about who has more players and who doesn’t but granted, i’m going to say were just equal, because little kaineg, is not so little anymore, regardless of what people say. I can’t say were as big as DR, we might and might not be. But I’m really disapointed by those people here in the forums, mainly from DR who has been spouting nonsense like hacks with no real proof, granted some were but about 90% of it was full of it.

PRO called out Kaineg as a whole boasting about a victory over halloween, and as soon as it ended, kaineg came back hard and strong, and what was the leader’s of PRO’s response? Dumbfounded by everything he said, OMG how much xfers you guys get. Back before then, guilds like gasm/red/etc and those that were on forums would give props, not try to tear down the server that bounced back.

Our forum threads have lost their class and style so, this will be my last post. No need to argue with people who feel they have to be entitled to be right when they are wrong.