Guild Wars 2

SteepledHat.1345:

Bones.5762:

Please tell what do you do with your mesmer when ALL the enemy server is on walls or behind it with sieges that is so much fun besides auto attacking a gate. Mesmer is still fun to play in a open field fight, but during sieges theres not much i see them doing. what do you want to do? throw chaos storm on friendlys and say its fun?

Call me when keep doors and buffy allies starts dropping badges and loot. I mean, if Anet had nerfed every other class like this the QQ’ed be everywhere. It’s just because we’re mes and bads couldn’t learn to play that we get hit with crap like this to little rage.

yup exactly, with my engineer before the recent patch i would beat a good mesmer 40% of the time, depending on their spec because i knew how mesmers worked and how to find the real one, but with the patch i have a 70% chance of winning against mesmers, especially squishy mesmers.

Also please tell me what builds would work for sieges as in said situation as i said above, because phantasms nerfed already, condition damage build doesnt seem to work well when people are out of LoS and being obstructed by ledges, shatter build is even worse because clones cant fly on walls, they can sometimes clone up there with lucky GS #2, but don’t expect that to be a reliable source of shatter, Mantra build is even worse because its a small group build for open field fights.

Disastro.4086:

Can I ask you honestly here, do you truly believe that pulling people off the walls with a focus is the ONLY thing they’re capable of doing?

I’m glad you’re having fun with your Elementalist there is some great things they can contribute in WvW their focus whirl can defend siege from damage if you have several elems there to pop it. Meteor shower, it’s free bags with 1 button press when people are clustered up and stupid enough to not move and a good way to down siege in hard to reach places. I have one too I also enjoy it. I still enjoy my mesmer more in assaults if you wholeheartedly believe that we can only pull people off walls you haven’t looked at to many specs. There is more to tower/keep/assaults than dpsing people standing on walls however if that is all that style of play is to you then mesmer probably isn’t for you. Elem works well is good fun and pro at killing the kitten that stay in one place on the walls.

Now with everything i’ve said here and in other posts i’m not saying we’re perfectly fine in all aspects here but people are blowing it way out of proportion. There are some serious issues with “obstruction” even when things are in line of site this effects every class in the game.

Please tell what do you do with your mesmer when ALL the enemy server is on walls or behind it with sieges that is so much fun besides auto attacking a gate. Mesmer is still fun to play in a open field fight, but during sieges theres not much i see them doing. what do you want to do? throw chaos storm on friendlys and say its fun?

styx.7294:

Might be alright that not every class can cover the walls with crazy AoE. Keeps the walls clear of too many crazy AoEs.

Not referring to you but this is the kind of logic that gets mesmers nerfed to be honest. “Man mesmer can do so much more than me, if i can’t do it mesmers shouldnt be able to do it either” But it’s funny how it doesn’t work in reverse.

Altie.4571:

Actually it was wiped 2 times. It may have seemed like 6×8 because that was a looong and protracted tug of war. When your reinforcements finally arrived everyone on our server was like “holy crack how many are there in that red river of moving people!”

Mostly due to poor planning, but not due to trying.

Yeah we noticed how you guys had split forces allowing us to actually come up there and wipe you guys several times, including your sieges, then you guys would show back up in force when we started to wipe your sieges but half your forces already started getting wiped. If EB wasn’t attacking our keep in the east i wonder how things wouldve went, because we had split forces. And yeah our reinforcement came because the east keep fell, we had maybe around 15 at east, 30 on west keep, and 10ish or so running camps.

Disastro.4086:

DivineBeing.2086:

Mesmers are one of the most useful classes in WvW!

I think the people complaining mostly just want to play it as a pew pew laser beams dps-only type of class and just ignore its utility & secondary effects all together. That or they simply don’t play other classes to realize how good we actually do have it.

the argument here is when during a siege all a mesmer can really do is pull people of with focus, requiring focus even though most builds don’t need it. Mesmers aren’t useless, but they have simply lost their fun for me, i played a mesmer for about 2months, not once did i not enjoy myself, but since the patch it’s just not as fun anymore. I didn’t play a BS dps build either. The other day i started my new elementalist and i had more fun with it then my mesmer now, but it could be because its a new class with lots of skills but my mesmer personally is just not really enjoyable, i’m not going to say this is the case for everyone but its just for me. The patch didn’t nerf my build, but LoS and the blinds and all that stuff is really lame now. I used to run supply camps with my mesmer and i would almost have veteran mob aggro, do you know how often a scout blinds you?

would be nice to see, because i haven’t seen a mesmer 1v3 players in a while, since they nerfed phantasm a while back.

zastari.1730:

Even if you can’t kill all of them, you should be able to turbo-stake one and blink + decoy away for a clean exit.

well thats not winning a 1v3. I’m not saying mesmers are weak, I’m just saying they aren’t OP anymore. They still have decent survivability, with great 1v1 utility skills, but i dont see it being good enough to handle 3v1.

zastari.1730:

Bones.5762:

The only scenario i see a mesmer winning a 3v1 is if the mesmer is good and the other 3 are just average players.

So like 99% of 3v1s then?

Edit: Focus 4. Free clump~

I won’t argue with you about a mesmer winning a 1v3 with all players being equally skilled but different class. But i doubt there are many situations that this has happened. If all players allow themselves to be instant killed within 3seconds of the temporal curtain pull, they are super glass as well as the mesmer, so i doubt the mesmer even had a chance. Tell me any 3 classes that this would be a great scenario in favor of the mesmer. Because i play both engineer and mesmer, but as of right now since patch i can beat a mesmer with my engineer 70% of the time 1v1.

zastari.1730:

Bones.5762:

Pretty much everything you said sums it up, but i just don’t agree that a good mesmer can take on a good group of 3 players, even if theyre not a party. maybe 2v1 but 3v1 is just a little too much for any player except a guardian.

A clumped up 1v3 is easy, especially if there’s a bunker guardian involved. Confusion shatterbomb will drop 1, 2, or all 3. Timewarp and daze / distortion shatters for your staking and they go straight from downed to dead.

exactly, a good group of players wouldn’t clump up for shatters, because mesmer clones (if traited) will cripple/confuse you after they are killed. The only scenario i see a mesmer winning a 3v1 is if the mesmer is good and the other 3 are just average players.

LHound.8964:

I play as a Mesmer and in WvW, he is very limited:

.1 – Defending (Structures):
Mesmer is not very good at defending. The lack of AoE attacks other than Chaos Storm contributes to this. Illusions die very very quickly against an attacking zerg on the field. Portals can be effective to Portal mass-flank attackers.

.2 – Attacking (Structures):
With the latest wave of “adjustments”, the attacking was severely affected. The Mesmer yet again is a support character as he can only Pull foes from walls, Chaos storm the defenders, and… pretty much this. Portals provide a good flow of Golems and overall players on the field to minimize the incoming damage from siege weapons.

.3 – Rogue (Supply camps):
Mesmer have good survival capabilities. A good Mesmer can fight in a 3-1 situation and live to tell the tale. The best job for Mesmers imho, although not as effective as a thieves (due to several reasons like that long time stealth). One of the problems is the lack of speed of the Mesmer. Mesmer have very limited swiftness skills that makes them a little slow to run back and forth to supply camps.

My conclusion is that Mesmer only works in WvW due to the Portal Skill.
Other than Portal the Mesmer is pretty much poor in this type of play!

Pretty much everything you said sums it up, but i just don’t agree that a good mesmer can take on a good group of 3 players, even if theyre not a party. maybe 2v1 but 3v1 is just a little too much for any player except a guardian. but a guardian would only be stalling not really killing. I don’t enjoy playing my mesmer anymore since the patch. I’m really ticked off about it because i have ALOT of sieges i bought on that character, but they are soulbound, so that kind of screwed me over.

Man CD i really gotta give you guys props for the endless assault and attempts on bay keep on maguuma BL. You guys sure are dedicated. I believe you guys wiped out trying to take it like 6-8x, and i can’t even remember how long that fight at the supply camp was while we set up siege for greenbriar tower. I won’t say i farmed you guys for badges but man i ended up with around 60 badges in like 4-5hours.

SpaceLord.4590:

The only post on the first 3 pages that actually tries to help people in WvW understand how to play and get better. No responses and probably lasted on the 1st page for about 30 minutes.

Sad.

Thank you for trying and adding some knowledge for the new players coming in.

There’s been a couple of helpful post in the last couple of days I thought for new players.

heres one thati enjoyed.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/The-WvW-holy-commandments/page/2#post868440

wads.5730:

if i were a leader of a strong wvw guild, i’d join one of the servers in T8. if you join any of the T4-6 servers, all that will do is make that server win, get bumped up a tier, then lose horribly in the next tier.

That seems to actually make less sense doesn’t it? I’m not saying to not join a t8 server, just saying that it seems contradicting that you believe that a strong guild of 40players, will make an impact on a t3/t4 server but none on a t8 server.

maguuma is good, been here for about a week as well and they have really awesome people here, first day i came here, i was invited to their server mumble and it was a blast, and also Kaineg would be good, but kaineg is preferable trying to fill their time coverages of 8am-4pm, they have great primetime fights of 6pm-midnight pst, they wouldn’t mind if you joined, but it wouldn’t solve the future problems theyre having.

TheFug.5278:

saiyr.3071:

Raincrow.1840:

JaNordy.6149:

Diehard.1432:

JaNordy.6149:

Thanks to all CD players up top in puzzle today for letting me stay alive up top to knock about 15~ people off, I was laughing so hard everytime.

15 ppl? Its cool if its true story. Otherwise..BUTTHURT

I knocked off about 15 people and killed around 20 or so, took about 8 SS at various points. I was able to get stealth over and over, only 3 of them actually went after me each time Id go back to stealth and I finished all of them. If all people up there actually went after me Id have only knocked off 2-3 guys at best.

The sad part is, when we were up against Tarnished Coast all they did was complain about how much CD camped the Jump Puzzle. So this week we let people live and look what happens…..

Pretty sure I heard tons of CD were camping Ehmry in the JP a few days ago, so yeah. Don’t get too excited about that.

Yes, because it’s not like a bunch of Ehmry bay camp your JP everyday. Oh wait they do!

And they can’t win regular fights so they have to sit underneath the waterfull and pick off people after the fall.

Always see people from “Madcast gaming” camping hard, but never see them in actual WvW.

Bottom line, is all server has jp campers, it’s just about who we see most i guess, and no offense but i’ve yet to see massive amounts of EB camping jp nor Maguuma camping jp, i’ve seen maybe 2-3 camping it, but not like groups of 15+ CD roaming around with sieges built, and mesmers to port you back up to safety if youre about to die.

Drednyte.7601:

WOW! My post, a joking post btw, about taking the Wv3 guilds from all 3 servers and transfering to one server to push up the ranks set off a TON of comments. I got flooded with in game mails, whispers, PM posts here, and some comments in the thread on it. Seems a LOT of players like the idea, common problem…nobody wants to be the one to “move”. lol.

Given some more thought, its actually a great idea to be honest. We have outstanding gamers/guilds on all 3 servers who want to rank up. But we cant or wont get far due to having too many gaps in coverage. Server transfer merger is the common sense solution. We’ve been fighting each other for quite a long time, most of us are in whispers with each other at this point for fun chats while we fight each other. So the comradarie is already there.

Seems the “show stopper” is what server would be the lucky one. Now I’ve only been on DR for 5 weeks, so my opinion is based purely on the server that we could rank up the quickest. With DR having over 200 points ahead of Kaineng, its the obvious choice. 200 might not sound like much, but when you figure in the fact that we average a point gain of less than 20, it can be a huge hurdle to cross. Those with “home” ties to the Kain/Ferg, i understand completely, as i went through that when i left HoD at #1 to go to JQ…then again when i met up with Phiz in PRO as i bounced my sons char around servers, eventually ending up in PRO and on DR.

But heck..we dont have to really pick a server you know..whats wrong with taking DR as far as we can go…then doing the same to Ferg and Kaineng! The rank itself isnt the fun part, its the climb itself that is the most fun.

We could be a force to be reckoned with!

Thing about this is, it’s a great idea, but i don’t want to faceroll the next 3-4tiers super hard.

Raincrow.1840:

JaNordy.6149:

Diehard.1432:

JaNordy.6149:

Thanks to all CD players up top in puzzle today for letting me stay alive up top to knock about 15~ people off, I was laughing so hard everytime.

15 ppl? Its cool if its true story. Otherwise..BUTTHURT

I knocked off about 15 people and killed around 20 or so, took about 8 SS at various points. I was able to get stealth over and over, only 3 of them actually went after me each time Id go back to stealth and I finished all of them. If all people up there actually went after me Id have only knocked off 2-3 guys at best.

The sad part is, when we were up against Tarnished Coast all they did was complain about how much CD camped the Jump Puzzle. So this week we let people live and look what happens…..

CD camped the jump puzzle in eb with around 15players at least, during 10pm-2am the other day, i was trying to get chest n went every hour or so, it was the same group of players, eventually i just gave up.

Yes i know deathdom, but i’m talking about the part where our waypoint was uncontested for about 5mins, allowing us to just respawn back asap and repeatedly just going in.

epic fight in hills keep in CD bl. wouldve been wiped for sure if it wasnt for our waypoint not being uncontested..

Braxxus.2904:

Elthurien.8356:

Sorry bud but if a class gains the ability to see through stealth or break stealth, then there should be an ability to disarm your traps, banish your spirits and charm your pet in battle. Just saying.

Actually stealth should just cease to exist in games period. It causes problems in ALL of them, it’s despised by the majority in ALL of them. Fun for the guy using it, not fun for the people without it available. There’s a reason that stealth, and search both ended up being “must max” skills in Conan as well. Because it’s both OP to use on people and it’s lame to have it used against you. It’s just a terrible terrible playstyle and mechanic. Amen.

As much as I hate thieves, i fully disagree with your post. Stealth have culling issues, which probably won’t ever be fixed, but I manage just fine against thieves with my engineer. I time the abilities that i should use, and then I throw one CC on that thief and burst all my skills on to him, including elite for an additional 3 seconds of stun, and i win, if the thief is a squishy thief. If he isn’t a squishy thief, well he ain’t going to kill me, and I ain’t going to be able to kill him, and the fight will just drag on, because everytime i get close to killing a non squishy thief, they run away, literally out of combat to full heal because they already used their heal for stealth.

Well it was some fun fights on CD bl tonight, I honestly felt we shouldn’t have abandoned Dream bay keep so easily, but there was a greater plan, but that plan didn’t go exactly too well, so it was lost in an almost meaningless way i felt. But i guess it was better since CD would just treb it nonstop.

Well i would, except for the fact they shouldve just let us in, and wipe on their sieges, but they didn’t so i think it’s funny that they defended really hard, with massive siege in the inner wall. I have to give them props though for great defense on their garrison. I can’t believe that maguuma has had ppt lead just about the whole day, GJ maguuma, i’m proud of u.

Deathdom.8250:

I guess someone thought the Mags might be able to break into our garrison in CDBL and possibly take it. A quick glance and I see 20 arrows carts , 10 ballistas and 2 catapults all situated in the inner keep. In comparison, I only see 2 arrow carts and 4 ballistas protecting smc lord.

Does that mean that it all was wiped since the new build? cause that would be hilarious.

xxxzavulonxxx.8413:

hobbes.6178:

Deathdom.8250:

So just now 10-15 Mags got into our keep in eb. No walls down, no gates down including water, and according to other players on, they werent down earlier either. Explain?

Do you realize how easy it is to get into any keep? I can literally get into any keep using my space bar.

Your space bar macros are not fair, good sir!

We Maguumans rival god himself. We can walk through walls on a whim.

Thy lord won’t asketh of thee, thy lord shall taketh from thee.

StormWolf.7645:

A Portal can easily get a group of people from one place to another without a care about the intervening terrain. That is POWERFUL…with only 5 people it is STILL Powerful. The difference is not overwhelmingly so. If you’re going to limit Healing, Shouts, and everything that a Guardian can do to 5 people…why is it so unfair to limit the Mesmers? It certainly isn’t going to make them any weaker. -.-

It’s certainly not going to make them any weaker because they’re already fairly weak now, in fact i wouldn’t even pick a skilled mesmer to win a fight against a skill guardian/thief/engineer/elementalist/warrior now.

The only thing is, it’s going to make it that much worthless. Portal is a glamour skill, where somebody who walks into it gets that said ability, like the temporal curtain for speed buff, or the Feedback bubble reflect projectile. Feedback doesn’t just reflect 5 people’s ranged attack back, its everyone i believe.

Korgov.7645:

Limiting portals to 5 players only would help the culling issue a little.

Teams would be pushed to bring even more mesmers to portal entire zerg. This would lead to even greater demand for mesmers in WvW. Not good.

It also does not address the other issues with portals. Namely content skipping jump puzzles, bypassing walls and chain portalling golems.

Not sure what the problem is with a mesmer using his utility to benefit the server, people qq about how OP mesmers are in 1v1 scenario, then they qq about how they can support their entire team with portal, I’ve honestly never wanted to say l2p, but seriously l2p, ever since mesmer patch i’ve just been pissed at anet, and stoped playing mesmer altogether, but still, i know how a mesmer works, and i still have a good chance of beating them with my engineer. My chances of beating a mesmer increased from 50% to about 70% because of the patch, mesmer got that much weaker to me.

lOKI.8152:

Most annoying thing on a low tier server is that you can hardly find decent opponents for small fights. Trashing instagib thieves and 100b warrs is as much fun as being one and instagibbing others i guess.

I wonder where your logic for this is, because it seems every server has their fair share of instagib thieves and shatter mesmers. I played as an engineer and in 1v1 scenario’s against instagib thieves and i won about 70% of those fights.

I honestly feel for your server as well as HoD. You guys who were there from the start, who tasted t1 victory, all basically got destroyed because the biggest guild/alliances disbanded like titan alliance or etc. I can’t exactly know how you feel, but kaineg was similar in a way, without victories of course, they started with no players in wvw, to a community with players, who want to better it now. Because of the way that the ranking system is set up, it’s extremely long to even fall out of one tier, even when getting stomped so hard it’s not funny.

Also if you can place us into the same tier as SoS, that would be epic, because i would love to dominate them for personal reason.

Drednyte.7601:

I have it!! The solution to all 3 server problems.

Lets take all the top guilds that have the common goal of server rank progression, and move to ONE server!!!!

KAIN/WAR/iSPY/ENVY/NoQQ can push domination on reset thru sunday. PRO/GASM/RED/BTSY/WAR/iSPY can push domination through “primetime” on weekdays, and PRO/YARR/SoS can push domination late nights!

Oh man, we’d rise to #1 server!

Question is: what server do we all get on? I’d vote DR simply because its has the highest point tally at the moment and gaining points is pretty much suck!

Ok..now lets make it happen so we can rise up and put a stompin on some arses in tier 1!

<—- MIND BLOWN

We’ll become the next Titan alliance. if you can make it happen, it would be epic.

I cry because i didn’t get to add 1 badge to my collection of 2000.

I think server just needs to merge with the next tier, such as the t8 servers into the t7 servers, no need to split pve and wvw servers, because guilds that do both pve and wvw want to still be in the same server while wanting to recruit active players from wvw. But once player is invited to guild but is in a different pve server it doesnt let them do anything during their off hours of wvw, making them find a pve guild and a wvw guild, and sometimes you miss messages in guild chat because of that.

Alliance??? That’s heirachy!!!! now quick farm em for badges before they decide that SMC isn’t going to be worth it.

hobbes.6178:

My first fight…man I remember it like it was yesterday….because it was yesterday.

I was SO nervous, deep down I didn’t want to fight but my opponent REALLY angered me so I knew I had to throw down, it was inevitable. It started of with a little yelling back and forth, the clash of opinions I guess, and then I just threw a punch and it connected right on the nose. I don’t even remember throwing the punch, it was like my body just reacted before I could think of the consequences. But, I threw a punch and connected on the nose…the fight was on and my opponent was NOT scared.

I threw another punch but missed, barely, but got countered by a pretty hard punch to the throat. No clue if they were aiming for the throat but if not then it was still effective because it hurt quite a bit. I had trouble catching my breathe and I tried to play defense for a bit until I got my bearings straight. My opponent saw that I was in a weakened state and I knew they were going to try to take advantage of it and I was ready. I ducked the punch and threw a nasty counter right into the jaw, my opponent fell like a ton of bricks.

I jumped on top and just started pounding. there was no real coordination or aim to my punches, I think I just closed my eyes and just swung as fast as I could and for as long as I could. I finally opened my eyes and looked down and my opponent is just battered. Busted lip, bloody nose, black eye swollen shut, cut above the other eye and they were pleading for me to stop. Out of adrenaline, I threw a few more punches to prove I am not afraid of them and stood up and felt like the MAN. I felt taller, stronger and smarter then ever before. Being in a fight really tell you a lot about yourself.

I felt really bad shortly after the fight, I mean in the end she is my Mother and I love her. But don’t you EVER turn my monitor off during a Golem rush, I don’t care how angry you are.

Best post here so far!!!!

I’ve just recently arrived in maguuma, and the community seems to be very relaxed and well knit, they have a server mumble that they publicly share with everyone in wvw, and they openly take suggestions, and even if it’s very bad idea, they aren’t pricks and just totally bash on the fellow, they respectfully decline saying why it’s not a good idea, and ask for new suggestions.

I honestly can say that maguuma is quite organized and respectful to new players, maybe not all the time, but when we’re focused and not randomly talking about nonsense in mumble we make grounds, but we all just play to enjoy the game. Maguuma has the same amount of players in wvw as a T8 server (kaineg) from my experience, they just have better around the clock coverage than kaineg. I honestly think that if all server had equal numbers and coverage, maguuma might have a very good chance at winning the match.

TheFug.5278:

Rhyis.7058:

Is this TheFug guy talking about servers being terrible when he plays at 5am for normal people? I got no issues people PvDing, do what you gotta do. But don’t sit here and proclaim your awesome tactics while you do it.

We didn’t PVdoor your garrison last night, and we certainly didn’t PVdoor your borderlands in the middle of the day yesterday. Proclaim PVdoor all day long, but it’s 8 PM on a Sunday and we are still leading in potential points and farming you for free badges.

no clue what you are even talking about, i was on all day yesterday, not once did our garrison fall during the time of 11am-10pm pst. Bay keep was lost around 3pm pst because we just didnt have the numbers to stop both EB and CD who were attacking our keeps simutaneously, so we chose to defend from EB since we could treb bay keep from garrison. The only place that was lost was bay, and hill, but let it be known, it took about 7 hours until our hill’s keep was lost with on and off attack from EB. hill’s keep fell around 8pm pst, but it was because we had to defend garrison from CD relentless attacks. I’m not going to say this and that about you guys, but just saying all we did yesterday in maguuma BL was endless defense, for the whole entire day. But i guess it’s just because you’re a forum warrior aren’t you fellow? hopefully your server aren’t like you, because it would be a shame, i enjoy fighting against CD, but if they have the same mentality and ridiculus notion that you have, then they are just trash.

Endorin.3109:

I’m not sure about the other guild leaders but my guild and a few others are currently aiming Maguuma just because we love all your posts in this forum.

Cheers.

:) i actually had alot of fun just playing defense yesterday against NAGA players. I honestly don’t play wvw to win, if it’s fun ill play, if not i won’t. Keep bringing the fun.

The only thing that sucks about it is not being able to play counter offense because we’re getting hit by both servers.

lmao, i’m currently in the guild FOTM, but it’s not even for wv3, it doesn’t have any influence points, all the players are from ALL SERVERS and about 95% of the players don’t represent it, we have no real bond with one another, the only thing we have in common is the need to grind FOTM. There’s absolutely no reason to even bother kicking this person out of this guild because the guild is a pve guild only.

heres a link for more info on FOTM
http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/13irp4/fotm_guild_created_another_option_to_look_for/

I will become the commander you want, only for the price of 100g.

GuardianOMS.8067:

Honestly, I would target Maguuma too.

There is no would, it’s happening as we speak.

TBH the number of players maguuma fields out matches that of kaineg (T8 server) comparing prime time wise that is, which is only enough for 2 almost full borderlands if even. Yes i came from kaineg so i know from personal experience. The only thing that maguuma seems to have that is relatively better than Kaineg is off hour coverages, like 8am-4pm, but it’s not even that much better because CD has better off shift coverage from the looks of it.

Both EB and CD seems to be able to field enough players for 3 bl evenly spread with no que, but numbering around 40-50 players.

Ralathar.7236:

TheFug.5278:

You can say that we have a lot of people, but my guild has been taking objectives against far superior numbers all day, as well as beating you guys in open field combat until you show up with 45 man zergs (and spam laugh ofcourse).

So you can sit here and feel all high and might because the “CD” zerg killed you, but your confirmation bias is showing.

This sort of attitude is the other reason we don’t like Maguuma. It’s present in the way they play as well as the forums. CD is a far cry from a zerg server with the exception of high early morning population. Mid day they compare nothing to how NSP used to be, which was 50 man zerg all day every day.

I have a great respect for CD atm, you guys are the first server I’ve faced that really felt higher tier. I just wish we had the off hours population to give you a better fight.

Not quite sure why you’re dissing Maguuma when you quoted a CD player, but i’m just going to assume like you too that you’re a biased EB player who’s stuck in past conflicts.

BEST VIDEO ABOUT GW2 SO FAR

idk y but anet needs to implement a better ranking system for server tiers like this, one team gets a massive tier boost rank pts, while the other 2 gets dominated, and will continue to get dominated for weeks til they lose enough points to knock out of the tier.

ComeAndSee.1356:

They already lock the servers by being full, but then it causes frustrations when new players want to play with their friends.

server that are full doesn’t mean that it’s locked, it just means that it’s full, it doesn’t do anything towards server transfers.

if only servers would lock in a week, so people think really hard about what server they wanna go to and stick to it. everything will balance out afterwards. It’s the anet way isn’t it? just throw random nerf patches and hope for the best? so why can’t they just throw server lock ins and hope for the best.

GJ all servers, had lots of fun tonight, Come to Maguuma BL, it’s where all the fun’s at apparently, seems like everyone knows maguuma is the place you need to be.

Bdsteelers.2567:

Yo fuerg and Kain why you guys all playing like this idc you both are beating us but we never satr for hours with seige and spawnd every exit you had we where nice enough to let you all out of the gate. you guys that scared you gotta spawn camp all day every day

LMAO, o i wish i could be there right now. just form a zerg like you guys usually do, and rush one side, portal bomb if u need to. it’s easy to escape, don’t become stragglers, or else you get picked up by siege.

it would explain why they’re fighting us only atm, guess they prefer second place.