So I noticed that the wiki entries for the halloween skins, (crossing, arachnophobia, moon shield) have been updated. The updated text notes that the ALL of the recipes, (Gift Recipe, Gift, Item) are going to be disabled when the halloween content leaves? Is this information correct? If so, where is this confirmed?
I have only heard that Sonders The Seller would possibly stop selling the upgraded mats and the recipes for the gifts may be deactivated, but as long as you had those things then you could continue to work on the final steps after the holiday. (IE: crafting the actual gift and then the item)
Anyway, just looking for some sort of actual reference/confirmation on any of this.
Thanks
You seem to have ignored the grind that is necessary if you want any of the Halloween weapons/skins/items.
^^This.
How many hours do i have in the labrynth? Um, too many to openly admit… And Im at 4 cobs and 3 nougat centers. Seriously contemplating just selling the kitten things on account of the fact that the thought of spending an additional second of my time in that labrynth makes me want to set my computer on fire…
Spend money on gems? You can’t buy halloween mats from the gem shop. I think you got your generic rubber stamp anti gem store rant confused with some actually valid criticisms on the amount of mats required for these recipes.
I imagine he’s referring to gem to gold conversion. Which, (tin foil hat time) is most likely exactly what they are hoping we will do.
Are we sure about this? If so, wth did they change this one to, 1 billion candy corn + 1 billion skulls + 1 billions fangs + your first born child? Seriously give me a break here!
This Halloween living story is far from a grind. The only thing that could be considered close to a grind are the doors which can be done under an hour in the open world. If you’re doing it in the labyrinth then you’re doing it wrong (this assuming you’re trying to get them done as fast as possible).
Perhaps those complaining about grind should look at what we had to do last year.
20K mats that can only be acquired from couple of specific areas that must be done over and over in order to acquire them isn’t a grind? Then what is?
I just wanted to throw my name on what’s already been said in this thread. Halloween this year feels like a gutted soul-less version of what we had last year. I literally would have been THRILLED to do the SAME EXACT things that we did last year. I gladly would have did the scavenger hunt again, (it was an amazing piece of story telling). I would give my left arm to jump into ascent to madness again. And please i don’t even want to get started on the absolutely disgusting grind fest that is the halloween weapons. I mean, it’s not even the mat cost that gets me. It’s the fact that the only way to aquire those mats is to literally grind the same bosses over and over and over and over and over and over…
Agreed, the halloween grind this year is ridiculous. I had been looking forward to the return of halloween since the very moment it left us last year. I had such a blast in 2012! this year? i’ve spent i don’t even know how many hours mindlessly running around the labrynth trying to collect 10-kittening-K candy corn and enough gold to buy 10-kittening-K nougat centers! Seriously? Is this what has become of what was initially some of the best content to be released in GW2 thus far?
Wow, consider yourself lucky. I farmed that kitten lab all weekend and never saw a single one of those mats drop. my hand is still cramped from all of the button spamming, hours and hours… I’ve managed to put together a couple cobs but that’s it. I am seriously thinking that i am going to lose my mind, or end up with repetitive motion damage long before i am able to acquire the mats for this recipe!
What a great story that could have been used in the game as part of the living story! This is the type of stuff needed for the living story, an actual story. I personally would like to see an update every 3 weeks to a month than rushing out what seems like unfinished/rushed content.
In all honesty that was more telling than anything that happened in the story thus far. Granted I didn’t take the time last night to kill the prince but I can go out on a limb here and say it will fall short on telling what’s going on.
What I would have liked to experience
1) Find scrolls talking about Edrics reliquary. This leads you on a quest to find more information.
2)You trace the scrolls origin to some family who talks about relatives in the past and talks about the story of what happened on that day. How the Mad King burned the village of Pelchalice and killed over 600 people. That there was an uprising against the King to remove him from his thrown. But still no questions answered on why the Mad King would put his own son in a tomb. You still are looking for more answers and the family talks of people who escaped that day from the castle.
3)You are able to trace the family that has kept the secret all these years about a sons plot to overthrow the King. How it was the prince who did all the bad things to the village of Pelchalice. How the sons last meal was candy corn and how he was locked in the box and the records purged so he would not be known. Then the family drops a hint thinking the tomb was near the Black Citadel.
4)Here is where we start the story as it was given to us by finding the tomb and meeting the prince for the first time.
All of that would have been great in my opinion and it would have actually made since. Other than me playing a guessing game and throwing garbage at him until I picked up a piece of candy corn and tossed it at him. The first question that popped in my head was why candy corn…
For the love of Tyria, SOMEONE HIRE this person!!!
This is exactly what made the scavenger hunt so amazing last year!
If you’re after the crossing, mad moon, or arachnophobia, you should just farm up some gold and buy the finished product off the trading post. The supply of these weapons will be unaffected by this update, since practically nobody will actually unlock the recipes. Demand might go up now that people realise that the recipe is unattainable this year, people who wanted to wait to get it now realise they have no choice but to buy. But I don’t suspect the price will be affected that much.
That’s part of the problem though. If I wanted to just buy the weapon, i would have done it months ago. I was looking forward to grinding out the materials and crafting it. That is part of the fun for me. I spend plenty of money on the trading post for QOL stuff, but certain things i want to actually “earn” or work for. Simply, it gives me something to do and it’s fun. But the mat cost for these recipes? Just absurd. I have ~9-10 hours in the labrynth so far (yes i have a full time job, school, and a family but that’s still a reasonable amount over the course of 2 days) and I am not even remotely close to even getting started on this material list. I mean seriously, WTF. The candy corn? maybe yeah, i will have that within a few days i imagine. But the nougat? No kittening way.
Limited items are fine. In fact, i strongly support the idea. But if there are going to be exclusive sets for different years, then why didn’t we get a new set for this year? Instead, we get a portion of the set from last year, only at an unreasonable price? That is just not how it’s done.
But I digress, There is still some time left in the halloween season, and two weeks i could be eating my words. Here’s hoping!
I can’t compare it to last year because I wasn’t here last year. I mostly play WvW but I took last night to do some of the Halloween stuff. The instanced story intro seemed pretty good. I went to LA and did the jumping thing to get in the cauldron to do the costume brawl and that was fun.
Then I went out into the 3 Krytan zones to look for the doors. I found one, opened it and nothing happened so I clicked on it, thinking that was what I was supposed to do. I got sent to the Mad Realm and my only option was to go back to LA. Once I did that, I waypointed back to Kryta to keep looking for doors. I ran around for like 15 minutes and had about 5 of them disappear on me before I could reach them. I did manage to reach 3 or 4 of them and 2 of those dropped a trick or treat bag and the others, like the first one I encountered, seemed to do nothing. I don’t understand this content at all. Not fun.
Next I tried out the Lunatic Inquisition and played 2 or 3 rounds of that. I thought it was a fun game mode and will probably play it a couple more times before it goes away.
Last I did the Labyrinth. I ran around by myself for a bit just killing things (never saw a door or a boss) and then the zerg found me so I fell in with them. We killed three bosses, but I only got one of the achievements, curiously. I spent most of the time helping rez people during the boss fights. At the end of the night I had like 75 candy corn so I went to the holiday vendor to see what he sold and saw that it takes 1,000 to make one of the candy corn cobs and that the only things he sold require 15 and 20 of those cobs. This is the point where I pretty much wrote off ever going back to the Labyrinth. I get, at most, 3 hours a day to play after my kids are in bed and even if I did this every night for all 3 of those hours, there is no way I’d ever be able to afford anything.
I look forward to trying the clock tower tonight. I recently started seeking out jumping puzzles and have been enjoying them a lot so I think I will enjoy this.
This, beautifully summarizes what a huge portion of us are experiencing. We have families and responsibilities. Love to play the game, but have limited time to do so. Would like to have fun with the content and walk away with a treat at the end. But realize that’s impossible…
Glad to hear that it was just misinformed players that were feeding me false information and that it is now cleared up. Still, 10k is a lot to grind for nevertheless.
10k of the nougats/skulls/fangs is still plain impossible to grind in allotted time. It seems that again someone assumed, that the only valid way to get gear in this game is to farm gold and buy materials off TP. And it’s not like the gift itself is cheap or anything…
I just don’t understand the reasoning behind this change.
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This. I can “possibly” see getting 10K candy corn of you grind your butt off. But the recipe specific ingredient, nougat, skulls, fangs? NO WAY. They are NOT dropping at an even remotely reasonable rate to expect players to be able to aquire that many. I checked on the trading post last night. After over 24 hours, there were just over 37K nougats available for sale. That’s 37K being sold TOTAL by all players in the game. That is enough for 3 recipes. W-T-F. I just don’t see where we are supposed to be getting these mats.
Yeah I agree, it would be nice to see more “special” drops from the labrynth. But i think the only reason people are grinding it is for the halloween mats. But even those are dropping at an alarmingly low rate.
Just so everyone knows.. the items that require 1000 x whatever it is you want to make, drop from mobs.. so you can get 1000 x whatever in basically one drop.
You sure? I farmed the the labrynth for about 4-5 hours last night and did not see a single candy corn cob or best nougat center drop. Not that im expecting to pick up a ton in that amount of time but i’d imagine that either myself or someone else from the zerg should see these drop, if of course they do drop…
As it stands, 100K Best Nougat Centers is about as close to impossible as you can get. I have a hard time imaging ANYONE collecting 10K candy corn at the current average aquisition rate and the nougat is far more sparse.
so it just occurred to me. The candy corn home instance nodes. they are the key to the new recipes. It makes sense now. We are not intended to actually make the recipes over the course of the halloween event. This will simply give us a head start towards gathering all the candy corn
Useless? I got a free pair of celestial gloves. You know ya can chose yer own stats on ’em, right?
Oh, really? WIN.
Is there other gear as well or just gloves? would be super nice to be able to aquire a full celestial set just for running clock tower
The staff skin sucks so hard compared to the GS and Shield.
Staff skin does kinda look like a redo of the centaur staff (I think thats the one I’m thinking of, has a redish glow inside 3 bone pieces). Glad none of them are any good this year, cause I’m not supporting the BLTCs or the kitten ticket system.
Yeah immediately I thought to myself “Hey, haven’t i seen that skin before already?”
Lol but the tombstone shield is over-the-top awesome
Indeed , i now notice the belts tied around his arms .But yeah there are some differences between those 2 pics . He looks more werewolf-ish on the wallpaper though , maybe he can transform into one O.O
Yeeaa, but it’s still doesn’t explain why he is in karkaland
Well, although the theories here are very interesting and intriguing. I fear that once again we will have to face the harsh reality that the fan fiction and speculation surrounding the living “story” are, as usual, MUCH more interesting than the story itself.
Remember when the scarlet update was first teased? The forums were alive with all sorts of great ideas. Then the content dropped and… we got scarlet…
That being said, I freaking love MKT and am happy with him just being the way he is. The story and content around him last year were awesome. The scavenger hunt with the ghosts who told his story had me racing to the next location to learn more. By the end of it i had been introduced to a character that i both loved and hated.
To this day, MKT is by far my favorite character from the game.
If Anet doesn’t want to give players a way to show their longevity via exclusive time limited skins that’s fine. They also shouldn’t expect veteran players to stick around either when the next mmo comes out. If every new player can come along and get the same look of a 3-4 year vet, there is no prestige. The high cost in the TP reflects paying for a prestige that is no longer available any other way. This is just like antiques.
This is a really good point. I was sort of “whatever” about whether or not the skins came back until i read this post. That makes a lot of sense.
IMHO, there should also be more items like the Fervid Censer. I don’t have one, but i want one SO bad. Unfortunately i can’t get one, but i am ok with that because i missed that event. I think it’s neat when we have items that show how long we’ve been around and what we’ve participated in. There is definitely prestige in that, and that’s cool by me.
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Yeah, i agree. The cash boxes should definitely not be the ONLY option. But I imagine they have learned since last year’s uprising regarding the BLC’s
Even if they add more weapons like they did last year (chainsword(s)/scythes/etc), they’ll be obtainable probably only two ways:
1) (most likely) in the kitten RNG cash boxes
2) legendary like requirements (like the moon shield, crossing staff, or spider bow)
I think Scarlet is already under the Mad King’s influence. He broke her mind while she was “astral projecting” in that short story. She’s unknowingly already his servant, and her actions are all leading up to breaking the seal for him.
Anyone else feeling spite growing for Solomon? The elitism must be rubbing off. =D
Either way, they should be coming back Anet needs to make money since you’re all playing for kitten near free. So I welcome them back.
Not elitism… just a hope that Anet can keep at least one basic promise and keep what is labeled as limited time exactly that. I even believe if I remember correctly, Anet advertised the Halloween skins as get them now before they are gone forever…
and for the record, you don’t even know me… I’ve given away hundreds of Gold and expensive items to guildies, friends, and even random strangers.
Don’t mean to fan the flames here, but… Even if they come back EVERY year, they are still limited edition and time sensitive. Only being able to obtain something for 2-4 weeks out of the year makes it VERY limited and VERY time sensitive. Imagine if something like petroleum were only available for one month out of the year… It would be a very scarce resource indeed.
Also, as far as “promises”. I may be wrong, but i don’t recall Anet ever “promising” to make content unavailable? That whole line of logic just seems a little strange to me.
That being said; I can see both points. On one hand, I will proudly wear my mad memories throughout the festivities this year. And if this particular item doesn’t become available again? Well sure i will enjoy the fact that i have a memory from last year that has some special value. BUT, i wont be upset if people who weren’t around last year are given the opportunity to earn one as well. (just an example)
I wouldn’t take the lack of images of him too seriously. We only have one (likely two) images of the Prince, and there’s still a lot of month left until Halloween. While they’ll probably introduce the good king crazypants sooner than they did last year, last year didn’t even kick off Halloween until Oct. 22nd.
The omens are starting to show, but the monster of the movie is can afford to take his time if it means a bigger payoff when he does appear.
I mean seriously guys come on. The mad king is far and wide openly admitted to be one of the community’s favorite characters. (at least judging by forum posts and feedback) And here we are approaching HIS holiday and this Prince McPoopy Face is all over the place without a single image okitteng thorn? wtmf…
ARRGHHHHH!!!!
/end juvenile rant
People who wanted to do this dungeon, already finished this Twilight Dungeon.
Having it linger for 2 whole weeks… yeah… it is not fun.
Please please please have Halloween start and have it last 3 weeks.
You do realize that there’s a WHOLE GAME out there besides the single dungeon path, right? There’s WvW, which many servers are practicing and attempting new tactics in a ramp up for the Season #1 to start soon (if the ramp up is any indication, it’s going to be EPIC). sPvP is there too. PvE has TONS of content, and thanks to Ascended weapons + Champion Chests, Orr is more lively than ever! Two weeks for a single dungeon is great, because it can be ran a couple times and then plenty of time to do other content.
Agreed, Anet is pumping out new content on a bi-weekly basis. And better yet, they are actively learning from feedback and updates are just getting a little bit better every time they launch. Furthermore, an entire new dungeon path is nothing to scoff at content wise. I mean, it’s a brand new dungeon…
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This. Halloween was the BEST last year! It has without a doubt been my favorite content thus far. I had so much fun during halloween last year. Everyone running around in costume town clothes, witches hats, brooms, costume brawls, clock tower, dungeon, mini-games! Even the scavenger hunt has been the only scavenger hunt that has actually been a TON of fun. As you visited the ghosts it told the story of mad king thorn and each little piece of the story just made you want to learn more! Cannot Wait!!!
More reasons this encounter shouldn’t have been done. Making our survivability rely on the actions of NPCs had already been considered stupid. Doing it now with enemies was just blatantly designed to make it unnecessarily harder. And go figure it bugs too. For all I know, that might’ve been what messed up my runs too, but I was too busy trying not to die from everything else to notice.
Wonderful. Making more annoying gimmicks for bosses? Okay to them. Making sure said gimmicks don’t bug out and mess you up? Nope, didn’t need to do that!
Nah, it’s not that bad. I mean it’s not a show stopper or anything. It doesn’t make the encounter impossible or anything. Also, i would say that it’s an issue only a small minority of the time.
It’s a big game, there’s gonna be bugs and no amount of testing and fixing is ever going to change that. But I think Anet does a pretty good job of being proactive, prioritizing and addressing issues.
