Guild Wars 2

patricide.1062:

Archer.1658:

patricide.1062:

Archer.1658:

Hey there, buddy! Well, I never messaged you because my guys don’t want to find time to do it. To quote one of them, “You want us to take time out of our day to fight some forum troll? No thanks, I have better things to do.”

I know, I know. You’re gonna say something like “you n00bs are just skeered kitten!”
Whatever. You keep saying how you just annihilate all YB ‘cause we are just SO bad. I haven’t seen any videos nor do I know your guild tag so I can see who it is that is talking so much trash. At any rate, next time we have a reset night against EBay I’ll message you personally and let you know where we are going. Bring FRAPS and capture yourself stomping us into the mud over and over.

Now, can we please ignore the forum troll? He brings a lot of hate into an otherwise amicable matchup.

So pretty much the same response as last time “uh..we can’t do anything but zerg with 40 people”. Dodging the infamous 5v5/10v10. Let me know the time and place when you are ready to accept the challenge. Also, you better start training your guildies because from this point on, I will be humiliating them to the fullest extent until you meet the challenge commander. I implore you to stop posting, you make your guild look foolish with your cowardliness every time.

I still don’t see what your guild tag is?

WAIT YOU ARE RIGHT I ARE SO SCARED. Look, dude, we run organized teams designed to A) prevail in the open field, and take and/or hold objectives. 10v10 matches are a waste of my time because that is not what happens naturally through the course of our WvW nights. Our smallest team is a 10 man team that is designed to and practices holding objectives. Yeah, fight my 10 man team who use bunker specs and are well rehearsed with siege usage and placement in the open field. You will slaughter them because that’s not what they are there for.

I have stomped many WM groups, many GODS groups, many FTF groups, etc. Is that indicative of the entire guild? Why no, it’s not. You have my account name. Come find me and stomp me into the mud! I’m kind of done with this conversation, as obvious troll is obviously suffering from Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Take care, now.

Oh im sorry [ECHO], come find me if you can get past your 40 man zerg to make it to the front commander. So all I see are excuses, and that your a PvGate guild with no talent but zerging with superior numbers. I’ll take that as challenged denied for the second time, please relinquish your title as commander for you are no more than a weakling.

You’re right. I ARE SO WEAK. I SHOULD UNINSTALL CAUSE ARCHER NO LIKE ME.

Grow up, ole boy. Like I said, if you find us naturally we will fight any time. Setting up these silly fight clubs to see whose kitten is the largest is for… well, I’ll just say, “someone else.”

Have a good day, and good hunting.

in that case we should naturally find each other in fight club

Eye Mohini.7938:

I’m naked. gee gee

Post of the day winner.

patricide.1062:

Brando.1374:

Subtle.4596:

What guild is that Archer guy in?

[ECHO]

Thanks! I’m not familiar with you guys. I don’t think I’ve come across you all. Do you have a YT channel or anything?

well we recently changed tags to [ECHO]
Last time we met we were all in [GF]

Subtle.4596:

What guild is that Archer guy in?

[ECHO] which used to be [GF]

jehk.5728:

Brando.1374:

jehk.5728:

Archer.1658:

How so? Am I not contributing? Granted I’m not sieging a keep, but im holding anywhere from 5-15 pts and killing the enemies zerg with <10 people. Ego? Not necessarily the main goal, more of a bi-product, this is what I consider fun in WvW, not sieging away 24/7 on worthless points. Should my server ask for help, then we would go..so not really sure how this is dragging the server down confused face.

Holding 5-15 points is meaningless when you lose 10-30. I see it happen all the time from Ebay. You overcommit to your southern towers during breakouts. Getting SM for you guys is like putting out a bug zapper. You’ve demonstrated a huge void of knowledge about wvw. A surprising bit of doublethink for someone who’s life is wvw~.

Like I said. We Dont Care About Points. (we meaning a few of us including Archer )
We want to kill you and pick up loot bags and repeat.

Excuses and wasted potential. Also, its funny that you think defense is the best way to farm loot bags. Like I said. Void of knowledge.

Meh say what you wish. Points are overrated.

patricide.1062:

Archer.1658:

Facet.5914:

Archer.1658:

Facet.5914:

Archer.1658:

Facet.5914:

For Faux Sake.8457:

Facet.5914:

Nice fight on EBBL tonight. Almost had Bay on numerous occasions, but I think EB must have summoned their entire WvW force to save it… barely.

We actually didn’t have that many people. There were hardly enough people to man the siege for the most part. The only reason it seemed like we had so many probably was since everyone who died would use the waypoint whenever it reset in the bay, and that waypoint is right there in the lords room where all the fighting was going on. You guys would nearly wipe us then we would revive in force enough to surprise those not expecting 25 more people suddenly to be in the fight.

We also had groups protecting dolyaks, running supply from garrison, etc etc the whole time… almost completely ignored.

Naw, I could count you guys pretty well whenever you pushed out into the open, you had at least 40 for sure, more if you count the runners and yak escorts. Meanwhile you lost everything else outside your BL, so the rational conclusion to me is that all your dudes were defending Bay.

Speaking of runners and escorts, yeah we did kitten that up pretty bad. I think everyone was having too much fun farming bags to go do the chores. =/ You guys are still pretty squishy out in the open but you’ve definitely improved your keep defense, props.

Recheck your eyes, Ebay dominates the open field with yaks bend every time. We had maybe 20 people total defending excluding runners. Sorry to rain on your parade.

Laughable, nice flame bait though. EB has some guilds that can wipe our pugs, and apparently you can defend 1700 Keeps if you summon your entire weekend NA primetime force of “20 people.” But YB dominates open field equal numbers, when our main guilds are actually present.

Obvious troll is Obvious. What main guilds? I’d love to hear this because I’ve stomped people from Rawr to CL to War. What guilds am I missing so I am to prepare myself against these superior enemies sir?

Lol Archer accusing others of trolling. I honestly can’t remember ever wiping to EB in months except under local numbers disadvantage. You guys get wiped hard by Rawr, War, Badgers, etc every reset, and honestly these guilds do not even try very hard in this tier as there are no difficult opponents. Rawr went about 20-0 last week on T3 reset, even wiped FA and DB’s zergs 1v2 at one point. Which EB guilds are you so proud of? GH, FTF, pk are easy wipes in the open. Hell, our pugs can do that half the time.

Not sure why so many are ragging on CL either, they slaughtered you pretty well this Sunday even with your defenders advantage.

Archer.1658:

Thanks Captain Obvious, I’ll write this down in my journal of amazing writings of the last millennium. DR and AD are superior to Yaks bend in every way possible and I have a lot of respect for how well they run, Maguuma is better than Yaks Bend as well. In fact other than Yaks bend themselves, I dont believe anyone thinks they are relatively good in open combat. So what if it’s a game? It’s competition, I suppose you play for the PvE content. Not even worth my time.

So full of hate, you must be very resentful for having lost to YB so many times, both in battle and on the scoreboard.

Oh? http://mos.millenium.org/matchups/history/23#NA. So i guess you tried really hard here right? You think you’re wiping us at reset because of being superior? Darn right delusional if you think that’s the case, look at the population difference, why weren’t you wiping FA or DB so easily, oh right they are better and have more players, and don’t say “they are more skilled” because you clearly wiped them 1v2! Caught and tied up, go back under the bridge troll. Also rawr never messaged me for those 5v5 or 10v10’s, i wonder why.

Hey there, buddy! Well, I never messaged you because my guys don’t want to find time to do it. To quote one of them, “You want us to take time out of our day to fight some forum troll? No thanks, I have better things to do.”

I know, I know. You’re gonna say something like “you n00bs are just skeered kitten!”
Whatever. You keep saying how you just annihilate all YB ‘cause we are just SO bad. I haven’t seen any videos nor do I know your guild tag so I can see who it is that is talking so much trash. At any rate, next time we have a reset night against EBay I’ll message you personally and let you know where we are going. Bring FRAPS and capture yourself stomping us into the mud over and over.

Now, can we please ignore the forum troll? He brings a lot of hate into an otherwise amicable matchup.

I smell a fight club tonight

jehk.5728:

Archer.1658:

How so? Am I not contributing? Granted I’m not sieging a keep, but im holding anywhere from 5-15 pts and killing the enemies zerg with <10 people. Ego? Not necessarily the main goal, more of a bi-product, this is what I consider fun in WvW, not sieging away 24/7 on worthless points. Should my server ask for help, then we would go..so not really sure how this is dragging the server down confused face.

Holding 5-15 points is meaningless when you lose 10-30. I see it happen all the time from Ebay. You overcommit to your southern towers during breakouts. Getting SM for you guys is like putting out a bug zapper. You’ve demonstrated a huge void of knowledge about wvw. A surprising bit of doublethink for someone who’s life is wvw~.

Like I said. We Dont Care About Points. (we meaning a few of us including Archer )
We want to kill you and pick up loot bags and repeat.

jehk.5728:

Archer.1658:

jehk.5728:

Archer.1658:

Subtle.4596:

Archer.1658:

Facet.5914:

Archer.1658:

Facet.5914:

For Faux Sake.8457:

Facet.5914:

Nice fight on EBBL tonight. Almost had Bay on numerous occasions, but I think EB must have summoned their entire WvW force to save it… barely.

We actually didn’t have that many people. There were hardly enough people to man the siege for the most part. The only reason it seemed like we had so many probably was since everyone who died would use the waypoint whenever it reset in the bay, and that waypoint is right there in the lords room where all the fighting was going on. You guys would nearly wipe us then we would revive in force enough to surprise those not expecting 25 more people suddenly to be in the fight.

We also had groups protecting dolyaks, running supply from garrison, etc etc the whole time… almost completely ignored.

Naw, I could count you guys pretty well whenever you pushed out into the open, you had at least 40 for sure, more if you count the runners and yak escorts. Meanwhile you lost everything else outside your BL, so the rational conclusion to me is that all your dudes were defending Bay.

Speaking of runners and escorts, yeah we did kitten that up pretty bad. I think everyone was having too much fun farming bags to go do the chores. =/ You guys are still pretty squishy out in the open but you’ve definitely improved your keep defense, props.

Recheck your eyes, Ebay dominates the open field with yaks bend every time. We had maybe 20 people total defending excluding runners. Sorry to rain on your parade.

Laughable, nice flame bait though. EB has some guilds that can wipe our pugs, and apparently you can defend 1700 Keeps if you summon your entire weekend NA primetime force of “20 people.” But YB dominates open field equal numbers, when our main guilds are actually present.

Obvious troll is Obvious. What main guilds? I’d love to hear this because I’ve stomped people from Rawr to CL to War. What guilds am I missing so I am to prepare myself against these superior enemies sir?

Pretty high on yourself eh?

When you say people, do you mean you and ur 5man show up and roll one dude? Or are you saying you guys are doing a group vs group?

CL plays different maps than I do (due to guild sizes)- so I can’t speak for them but – I can say its would be pretty impressive to see you regularly beat Rawr or War open field in group fights.

Make sure to msg me in the evenings – let me know where you are (what BL) so i can position to meet up with you for hugs.

Very high on myself. Yeah me and my 5 man steamroll 1 man lowbies, you caught us! As for letting you know where we are, we usually roam CD borders and roll into EB to hold down a point and farm.

Ebay’s biggest weakness is their over commitment to defense. I’ve seen your server turtle so many times. Sure you hold the point. However, its comes with noticeable point drop from losing other stuff. Sounds like you’re contributing to that.

Uh..theres maybe 8 people taking and holding this point..and continually farming you, so I’d say we contribute just fine? Holding Points, Check. Killing enemies, Check. And last time I checked, I don’t care about the ppt. Go figure, I do it subconsciously.

Just letting you know. These tactics are dragging your server down. All for what? Your ego?

we dont play for points lol
we play for the loot bags.

Advent.6193:

SmokeyNYY.7841:

Liquid.9672:

Nice! I was frustrated by the Feb monthly as I knew I wouldn’t have any time to run any dungeons, not to mention I really didn’t want to.

Out of curiosity, what does the March monthly consist of?

it is so easy…think salvage, veterans killed, events completed and one other easy thing

Master Crafter: make Green or higher items. I think ~30. Been using my 400 Jeweler
alt.

its 40 items

Wonderful Guides
Im going to lv up a necro just because I read this.

I let others PvDoor
I go kill players and get loot so I wont really care.

NickelQuack.3216:

I heard someone say in another thread that thieves do well in WvW to run P/T/H (rather than the traditional P/V/T). And I’m also finding a lot of people that feel that running high points into Shadow arts for the tough/healing is a must.

Keeping in mind that I prefer to run around with a zerg, or at least a small group of 5, in WvW rather than run around solo, can anyone confirm or deny this claim? Or would zerker’s still be the best?

depends on how you want to play.
if you want to just down someone and run away.. go full GC with zerkers
if you want to be able to stay up a but while still doing good dmg have a mix of vit and toughness while keeping a good crit dmg %

to promote smaller groups

http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/thief/?7|8.1g.h2.8.1g.h14|5.1g.h4|1g.a7.1c.a1.1p.a1.1g.a7.1g.a7.1g.a7|2s.d14.1c.61.1c.61.1p.61.1p.61.8g.67|a3.u6ac.u56b.0.0|40.1|e

this is the build I run daily in WvW

not the best but it works for me.

I love the change.
Now we have to roam around instead of just siting in one place looking for swords to pop up.

Sigil of Paralyzation works for the daze as well.

Turbofan.4569:

I am posting about one specific skill. Cloak and Dagger. please keep this on topic.

ok. Stab your foe and vanish in stealth, leaving them vulnerable.

Damage Damage: 504
Stealth.png Stealth: 3 s
Vulnerability.png3 Vulnerability: 5 s
Range.png Range: 130

Lets start of this skill cost 6 ini (4 if traited )
you need to be in Melee range for this to land or you will basically loose half your ini.

A good player will CC/stun/cripple/chill a thief and not allow them to Land another CnD and make that thief use a utility, most of the time SR which they can be knocked out of and they basically waste that skill.

Otaur.9268:

Brando.1374:

it already has a 3 second “cooldown” on stealth and we have to get pretty close to land CnD again.
Stealth does not mean we cant take damage or channeling skills will stop hitting us or we cant be CC’ed while in stealth.

3 second cooldown… 5 seconds of culling = perma invis.

Culling is not the Thief’s fault

it already has a 3 second “cooldown” on stealth and we have to get pretty close to land CnD again.
Stealth does not mean we cant take damage or channeling skills will stop hitting us or we cant be CC’ed while in stealth.

Thief’s burst BAD players with GC builds in wvw
Thief’s burst down players that are already low on health (build does not matter)
Thief’s have only 1 skill that gives stability and thats on a 90 sec CD
Thief’s have the lowest hp pool of medium armor classes
Thief’s still take the same amount of Dmg while in stealth

A burst D/D thief may have 1-2 stun breakers and only up to 13k hp

Myself as a Thief I can go toe to toe with GC thief’s and around 80% of the time come out on top because where thief’s go while in stealth is very very predictable.

Good Fights last night!!

this week has been fun

as a Thief I have no issues killing “invisible” thief’s.
I lol when I see a thief throw down SR because Ill just Cluster bomb/ choking gas them to death and see a downed thief pop up.

most of the time I also go in stealth and BS them while they hide in SR.
its not hard if you know what most thief’s do.

Do i get ganked, yes because I want paying attention to my back or side. do I gank them… evil laugh yes.

Im glad you like the build.

Im always able to kill other Thief’s while they are in stealth.
I only have a few aoe and no real CC so Im not sure why you are having this issue.

try a 0/30/0/20/20 build

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fYQQNAsaVlcmaOHcy9E+5Ex2DfKUe6pgsjtTxV1KA

you can try to use a 0/30/0/20/20 build

*Signets of power – 5 stacks of Might on use
*Signet Use – Gain 2 ini and reduce recharge by 20%
*Executioner – 20% dmg when enemy is lower that 50%.

*Power of Inertia (this one is a free slot) – 10 seconds of might on a dodge
*Assassin’s Reward – Heal me when I use PW or any still that uses Ini and it does not even have to hit anything

*Thrill of the Crime (this one is a free slot) – Fury/might/swiftness + 3 ini

• Bountiful Theft – steals boons from enemy and gives you vigor for more dodges

Utility Skills:

*Signet of Malice – heals you when you hit a target
*Signet of Agility – removes condition and refills endurance…more doges more might and more survivability.
*Signet of Shadows (this can be swapped to any Signet you want) 25% Speed boost and aoe blind.. meh why not
*Shadows Refuge –
*Dagger Storm – works wonders with SoM with a large group of mobs.

since you wan to use S/P and P/P I think this build might work well for you as PW and unload hit multiple times you can have a constant stream of heals and also you have decent ini recovery.

akanibbles.6237:

To roam around in a huge zerg ball, getting the best from culling for maximum effect, and farming honor badges and events etc…

So easy just to follow the pack, you don’t need to know what you are doing either – it’s fun and predictable. There is no PvP element to really worry about.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Why-do-people-play-WvWvW/page/2#post1478877

^^this is why zergs should not get any love.

if I remember correctly each time caltrops applies a bleed it counts as an attack I think.
after caltop goes away you wont get any more heals from it.

Caltrops applies bleeds each second to enemies within the aoe.
each time a bleed is applied it triggers a heal.

with DB you get healed for each hit you do not the condition dmg ticks.

Lots of things to kill

aoe would be powerfull but it would also make the zergs play smarter than just “hey lets all hold hands and take this tower/keep so only 5 of us get hit”

I dont have a problem with zergs.
I have a problem of aoe only damaging 5 out of 25+ in that zergball

portal has a limit of 20 players right?
why cant the AOE limit be 20? sounds fair to me

Thief

SB #2 & #4
Dagger storm

watch bags come in

I have around 3.5k kills and I have made over 1.1k badges
Gift of battle + invader shoulder + invader shortbow and still around 100 badges in storage.

I just go out and kill people. that what I do in wvw.

Disturbed.4685:

i would like to inform people that Ebay’s GF guild and yak’s WAR and scRn and other misc. yak’s just had a 2 hour staring contest. I think i now know what it was like to live during the Cold War.

that was some good Fighting there.

my biggest BS on a guardian was 9k and on a mesmer was 15k < this was full GC zerker 25/30/0/0/15

with my current build = 7-8k on heavy armor and 9-12k on light.

CHIPS.6018:

Brando.1374:

if 50+ players cant kill 3 players there is a problem…. and the problem isnt with the aoe limit.

Let’s say we got 50 medicore players facing the top 3 players in the world. You would expect those 3 elite players do deal some damage before dying. However the 50 men zerg will do 100% damage against those 3 elite players. At the same time those 3 elite players will deal REDUCED damage against the 50 men zerg because of the target limit.

So when your zerg is huge, you are even stronger. When you are in a elite squad, you are even weaker against zergs.

as it is now the zerg has too many advantages. all they have to do is ball up and they live for days.

lift the AoE limit and make zergs play smart and give smaller groups a chance to out play the zerg.

if 50+ players cant kill 3 players there is a problem…. and the problem isnt with the aoe limit.

zergs dont want the aoe limit increased because their advantage is taken away

I would not care…. I just run around killing people.

Here are my stats. with 25 stacks of Bloodlust
all exotic with 0 ascended gear.

Burnout in Wvw…… nope not for me.
I really dont care about attacking of defending anything. I look to kill other players to help our server

and killing players never gets old.

I might not change my entire build if I 1v1 but I might swap utilities and maybe change up weapons depending on who I fight.

but my traits will almost always stay the same.

if you dont want the AOE limit to be removed thats because you got comfortable being in the middle of a 20+ man zergball taking no dmg.

I have no problem with zergs but AOE’s should be able to dmg all players in that zerg so the zerg will learn to play smarter than just run in a ball from place to place.

Here is my thief.

Victory.2879:

Mug made into an elite with a 240 second cooldown, so steal and mug no longer work together, either you steal a skill OR you can use mug to cause a reduced 4k crit damage hit.

Heartseeker made into 6 ini, 15 second cooldown skill.

CnD cooldown increased to 30 seconds.

Using any attack reveal you and you cannot restealth for 5 seconds, any attempt to do so with waste that skill and put it on cooldown. Includes all weapon types and skills.

You are revealed when with 400 range of any player and remain revealed until out of that range.

Any attack that is dodged/blocked causes your stealth to be disabled for 5 seconds.

Now you are like most other classes that have long cooldown on their main attacks.

Cannot attack more than twice per second.

Make the above changes and I’d actually want to play thief in wvw as it would take skill to play well.

you do know thief’s use initiative and they dont have cool downs right? I doubt that will ever change.

Auesis.7301:

Kaila Mistblade reminiscing in the Plains of Ashford.

so much want

its the same for me.

Lol yes I am that pro.