Guild Wars 2

ok thanks guys, the Wiki is wrong in the calculations.
so if my calulations are correct I would be doing around 100 per tick (stationary) and around 201 to a moving target.

youlostthegame.8102:

No idea what you just said. By the time you wrote it you could have logged on and tried it lol but it doesn’t hit very hard and it hits up to 5 nearby targets if that tickles you in any way. I haven’t been using it because I just don’t think it is all that great on a zerker Necro. hope it’s good for you conditioners though!

im at work so I cant really log in lol

Fade.7658:

So Jon, how does it feel to have a very large portion of your player base hate the changes you made to every profession?

speak for yourself.
only change I dont like is the necro corrupt boon nerf.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Torment

Based off the wiki the way the dmg is calculated is
(0.11 * Condition Damage + 0.4 * Level) per stack per second
(0.11 * Condition Damage + 32) per stack per second at level 80

is this correct or is the wiki wrong?

Oblivion.8307:

necro is broken op. hope you guys are happy.

yes very happy.

OmegaProject.9831:

Did anyone else notice the new Skill Facts on wells?

Wells are unblockable

(Also Bone Fiend and Shadow Fiend give 10% LF)

time to start running a 30/30/10/0/0 build for that burn

with my wvw condi dmg at 1845
ill be doing 235 dmg per stack per single tick, so 3 stacks will do 705 per second on a still target

if they move it will double the dmg to 1410 just around the amount my fear deals
so if they stay the full 10 seconds with this condi on them and moving around thats 14,100 dmg on top of my bleeds/psn/fears

boneduste.4023:

Wells only affect 5 people max as well and the comparison is apples/oranges. If you are going to use epidemic, best to also equip Corrupt Boon.

5 enemies per pulse, so it can hit more than 5 just not on the same pulse.

Corrupt Boon: Reduced the maximum amount of boons converted to 5.
WTF?

style.6173:

Darek.1836:

Im not sure why thieves got this condition, their condi builds are already insanely powerful in wvw. now a condi that will probably hurt as much as burning when you move while being an extremely agile class that stays invisible, stacking bleeds and running away from you 95% of the time… I think its time to reroll to condi thief.

Condition builds for a thief are NOT strong. They are typically built around bleeds which are easy enough to cleanse.

Most condition thieves are troll builds, while yes they may kill a few here and there they will almost never die which makes them very strong in wvw. (dont die you wont become rally food)

I play both a necro and a thief.
I would hate if a thief has this condition on any weapon set or venom.
it should be a trap as it is the most underused utilities we have.

sounds like this is going to be fun.

sostronk.8167:

Rising Dusk.2408:

• In WvW, a good Thief will play the role of opportunist most of the time, catching you off-guard while you’re facing another, or while you’re performing some other task.

Id argue a good thief doesn’t waste his time on opportunist targets as its non productive.

stranglers/distracted players are great rally food.

Mere Image.8376:

http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/thief/?7.0|5.1g.h14|8.1g.h4.8.1g.h17|1g.a7.1g.a7.1g.a7.1g.a7.1g.a7.1g.a7|1g.0.1g.67.1g.67.1g.67.1g.67.1g.0|p69.u16b.f5.0.0|0.0|57.5e.5g.5m.0|e

try this
http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/thief/?7.0|8.1g.h2.8.1g.h1|5.1g.h4|1g.7l.1g.7l.1g.7l.1g.7l.1g.7l.1g.7l|1g.67.1g.67.1g.67.1g.67.1g.67.1g.67|p39.u36b.0.0.f4|39.1|57.5e.5g.5m.0|e

Archer.1658:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64UKAMmzV0w

Some GF escapades + Maguuma failing hard.

10:01 sea of fail lol

Lolicia.6502:

How are we terrible at stacking bleeds? Staff 2 + mark of evasion + weakening shroud + geomancy is a quick 10 aoe stacks that can turn into 20 stacks on surrounding targets after epidemic. Add in scepter 2/dagger 5 and you can get even more.

shh some dont know about this yet.

so here is some stats I came up with
http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/thief/?7.3|8.1g.h1.8.1g.h2|5.1g.h4|1g.7l.1c.7l.1p.7l.1g.7l.1g.7l.1g.7l|2u.0.3t.0.2t.0.2v.0.2t.0.2u.0|0.u36c.u45b.a6.0|39.1|57.5c.5a.5b.5v|e

Effective Power 5208.02
Effective Health (EHP) 21156
Damage Reduction 27%

ok I agree with the condition removal.
but I want 100% chill duration and if I remove the 10 in spite I loose 10% duration. (i want the 2 second chill on blinds)

Might go for knights gear and a mix of knights and PTV trinkets to get my crit rate to 30%

So far this is what I have
http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/necromancer/?5.0|6.1c.h1l|8.1c.h1l.d.1c.h4|1c.7u.1c.7u.1c.7u.1c.7u.1c.7t.1c.7t|2u.d13.2u.d13.3u.d19.2u.d13.3u.d19.2u.d13|k57.k39.a2.k38.0|30.1|3t.4d.4b.4a.4f|e

any suggestions on how to make this better?

what are you talking about Im OP in wvw

Dovgan.8605:

Let me try and simplify. Due to the RNG the 2 servers above EBay are showing a massive point gain, the 2 servers below AR are showing a massive point loss. If Ebay continues to avoid fighting BP during the NA Prime, they will have widened the gap even more than the 60 points it’s sitting at right now. The gap below AR is now nearly 90 rank points. You have forum trolls that like to try and spread the we fight BP and they are bad, but the facts through MOS don’t seem to work with that theory. In fact, leaving BP to do it’s thing is costing EBay more than they were gaining over the past several weeks. The only conclusion I can come up with is that either BP and EBay have come to an agreement to focus on AR, or that EBay is afraid to match up to BP. If the former is the case, it is clearly only benefiting BP, if it’s the latter, then it’s a good thing the server stayed where it is, because it was clearly not ready to advance.

we did advance but yet we are still stuck here because anet wanted to “mix” up the matches.

what you fail to understand is that many ebay wvw players took this week off because they said kitten this we worked to get out of here and what do we get a big kitten slap in the face.

Dovgan.8605:

Considering the current rating for EBay is dropping DOWN 24 points and showing a 19 point rating INCREASE for AR, enlighten us. (Glicko ranks based on predicted performance, all AR had to do was as well as last week to MAINTAIN to it’s current ranking and not lose points. However I would love to hear your interpretation of how the system works and why MOS and ANet are incorrect with the current stats).

my god…. I give up with you people.

Pedra.4381:

Brando.1374:

Pedra.4381:

Brando.1374:

we get more points and a higher chance to move out of this tier if we stomp the 3rd place server (red)

How’s that working out for you guys? AR is still gaining points.

…Please tell me your playing dumb I dont want to explain something you wont understand.

No, no, no. I AM dumb. Please explain.

This should be really funny.

ok lets make this simple.
Ebay moved up to rank 12 wvw leader board list which makes us a t4 server.

since Anet royally kittened us with this random match we are paired with a t5 server again. by doing so we at ebay where very disappointed because we worked very hard to finally get away from this boring match.

now due to this disappointment many (and I mean Many) stopped playing wvw until we get the match we worked hard to get.

now why is AR getting points. simple they are technically doing better than the glicko system thought it would do against a rank 12 (T4) server.

Pedra.4381:

Brando.1374:

we get more points and a higher chance to move out of this tier if we stomp the 3rd place server (red)

How’s that working out for you guys? AR is still gaining points.

…Please tell me your playing dumb I dont want to explain something you wont understand.

Dovgan.8605:

Then why does EBay fear them so much?

we get more points and a higher chance to move out of this tier if we stomp the 3rd place server (red)

http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/necromancer/?5.5|b.1b.h16.8.1b.h5|6.1b.h16|1b.719.1b.719.1b.719.1b.719.1b.719.1b.719|2w.d1e.2w.d1e.3w.d1e.1b.9b.1b.9b.2w.d12|0.u26b.k25.k13.0|30.d|3r.3w.3x.48.0|e

This is what I use daily in WvW. Might not be the best build out there but it works for me.

To be honest I really didnt find the necro very attractive due to the negativity on thr forums for this class and only make one to help my guild in wvw.

But once I figured out the potential of this class and how I wanted to play it my thief took a backseat to be my troll class for the lulz.

Time for me to be on my Thief hehe

so where is the fight club at?
im on BP BL atm

Luzano.6983:

Brando.1374:

Luzano.6983:

Bros on Ebay, BP, and AR

We are planning a fight club tonight in Ebay bl Windmill area.
This is possibly our last night together(sadface) and just thought we’d get in some friendly competition going where we can schedule duels and GvG fights.

Gonna message everyone I have on my friends list from BP and AR. Could you guys help me by spreading the word too?

sweet, ill be there.

If anyone is on now, there’s some people in BP windmill area.
We can always change it up depending on how busy each bl is.

well Im still at work. about 2 and a half hours to go till i get home.

Luzano.6983:

Bros on Ebay, BP, and AR

We are planning a fight club tonight in Ebay bl Windmill area.
This is possibly our last night together(sadface) and just thought we’d get in some friendly competition going where we can schedule duels and GvG fights.

Gonna message everyone I have on my friends list from BP and AR. Could you guys help me by spreading the word too?

sweet, ill be there.

Junkpile.7439:

When you use your weapon and utility skills enemy die so why you need carts?

some dont want to get their character dirty in the bloodbath we know as a fight.

Open field combat is the best part of this game. (I hate Spvp/Tpvp with a passion because you need to hold points….. = BORING)
this bug makes things more fun because you actually fight real players instead of having to worry about siege hitting you.

counter to stealth – anticipate where he is going to strike hint he will most likely try to BS

if we run away GJ to you we don’t want a long fight when we are solo roaming.

remove the AOE limit but only to necromancers so we can finally be OP

Also an addition to epidemic, while we also spread conditions to enemies we should also be able to target an ally and spread all his boons onto allies.

works with WvW tokens. I tried 3 time and got 2 sparks in a row that way.

Rednik.3809:

Vol.5241:

-10,000 WvW kills
-90 laurels
-50 guild commendations
-dungeon master
-50 SPvP Tourneys

WvW kills better be replaced by some wxp amount, because WvW is not about just killing things. And sPvP tourneys, also better be replaced by some more common and universal hotjoin activity, mb something like “Achieve rank 15+”.

Killing players in WvW is the only thing worth while in WvW

DeWolfe.2174:

Don’t worry about gear so much. Eventually, they’ll all be maxed out in Ascended. Though a good build is a good build. No matter if it’s in masterwork or better.

A question is, how are you going to level this new main? Craft it up or play it? Because you might want to buy another character slot instead. Then have fun cycling new characters. Build one, take it into sPvP for some fun, then reroll. Try out all the races and professions this way. After a week of playing, pick the one you liked the most, build it, and stick with it to 80.

Either way, a Zerker Warrior is pretty much a defacto character to have. I bounce around all day from my original character a Warrior, to my Ele, then Mesmer, and lastly my Ranger. It all depends what I feel like doing. Especially in WvW as they all perform better in certain task.

For the thief comment, they are the undisputed Golden Child of the Dev’s. They never get nerfed.

Thieves get nerfed all the time…. just not what everyone cries for

looks like this week ill level my warrior then.

Khayoss.2019:

Dio.2394:

nothing.7941:

Ralathar.7236:

Also, I do believe you managed to rustle your own jimmies.

Is this some British thing or what? Never heard it before viewing tier 5 match threads.

verb (used with object)
4.
to move or stir so as to cause a rustling sound: The wind rustled the leaves.
5.
to move, bring, or get by energetic action: I’ll go rustle some supper.
6.
to steal (livestock, especially cattle).

Jimmies: slang for a man’s equipment.

I think somewhere along the lines firing up people in the “This is SPARTA” style went off in a bold, but not entirely unexpected, direction.

The complete history of jimmy rustling

man my funnyjunk account is old. I remember when that took off.

nothing.7941:

Ralathar.7236:

Also, I do believe you managed to rustle your own jimmies.

Is this some British thing or what? Never heard it before viewing tier 5 match threads.

I think I am to blame for that.

me and you run a similar build but I run more of a pure condition damage build since in WVW with all the cond removal I want to dish out as much dmg as I can in a short abount of time.

http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/necromancer/?5.5|b.1b.h16.8.1b.h5|6.1b.h16|1b.719.1b.719.1b.719.1b.719.1b.719.1b.719|2w.d1e.2w.d1e.3w.0.1b.9b.1b.9b.2w.d12|0.u26b.k25.k13.0|30.d|3r.3w.3x.48.4f|e

Debsylvania.7396:

Jinks.2057:

Stone.6751:

Jinks.2057:

Stone.6751:

Reinforcments.5713:

The alliance is a false sense of equalization.

Those 3 servers are not going to remain in the same place forever.
And if AR and BP have to team up to fight EB, they do not belong in their tier, period.

Unless you’re trying to keep those servers forever in a twilight zone.

I agree, we do not belong in the same tier. If you ignore the Ebay trolls and read the posts from the more respectable, mature players on their server even they admit to being able to field as many, or more, players than AR and BP combined at any given time. On top of that they tend to make really big, strong pushes on a few select days very late at night which gives them huge point boosts. This keeps the causal WvW players away because the inequality is really quite boring.We have clearly hit a ceiling with a reject T4 server, and considering we scrapped our way up from T6 we are greatly outmatched here.

All this has made WvW pretty dull, and to top that off Ebay has proven classless in their role as the dominant server. I’m glad to see that players from other servers have also noticed and I hope the reputation of “most loser group of winners” sticks with Ebay. No matter how great their margin of victory, I’ll never have any respect for them.

Sorry but BP is getting a taste of its own medicine in Spades.

1st week the match up was close with everyone being friendly and exclaiming GREAT FIGHTS!

Then BP pulled their nightcap and proceeded to talk all kinds of kitten about how Ebay sux.Bragging about PvDn a victory.

What you are experiencing is repayment for your behavior then….if you don’t like it maybe your “classy” server should change it’s ways….

The first week we went up a tier we took 1st place and you didn’t expect us to brag about it or enjoy our moment of glory? You see, there is a big difference about being excited about doing a little victory dance about winning in the forums and being disrespectful to the losing servers week after week after week.

BP has its share of forum warriors that act disrespectful towards Ebay, but they are a minority and a very, very, small part of the server. I regularly read disrespectful things from Ebay towards BP in the forums. Hey, Ebay is winning and you all have the right to brag about it, but constantly putting down the other servers, saying they are all unskilled, that they are dumpstered, etc. is classless and makes you the most loser of winners that I’ve come up against.

Kinda glossing over how bad BP & Co. acted aren’t ya?

We remember and guess what…..you deserve everything we do to you.

Please. You were the sleeping giant that first week, kitteny and sure that your neglect wouldn’t get you into trouble. The fact that you so grossly underestimated your opposition and as a result lost the game stung so badly, you’ve never forgotten it, and apparently never will.

its not the fact that we lost the first round, its their trash talk after.
we remember the trash talk, its motivation to never let that happen again.

Noice.8730:

Kalkz.5297:

Excuse ? …….. lmfao

You keep blaming it on numbers, coverage…and now pve content? lmao

DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!

Here’s what Ehmry Bay did:

We got night capped before:
Ehmry formed the [NITE] crew

We got Double teamed:
Ehmry leveled up their coordination

come on stop whining and DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!

dont bother with him anymore.
This ’alliance" was his plan to stop us and failed pretty hard. His jimmies are to rustled.

Kalkz.5297:

Outman us more please ?

isn’t your “alliance” supposed to help with that?

krippler.9826:

ReMortis.4287:

Brando.1374:

Bhawb.7408:

Brando.1374:

Incinerator

Special Changes for Necromancers:

Necrotic Bite loses the Bite animation.
Life Blast throws Incinerator instead of the regular model
Deathly Swarm throws Incinerator instead of an insect swarm that bounces between foes

WAIT A MINUTE. We throw FIRE? Crap, now I have to start farming.

yes My Necro throws the incinerator with dagger 4

Video please, showing as many animations using it as possible.

Yes, please! I’ve been wanting to see what an off-hand incinerator would look like.

Ill try to get my laptop to record. (not going to look nice but you will get an idea of what it is)

http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/thief/?7.3|8.1g.h2.8.1g.h2|5.1g.h8|1g.a7.1c.a7.1p.a7.1g.a7.1g.a7.1g.a7|2s.0.1c.61.1c.61.1p.61.1p.61.8g.67|0.u36b.u45b.a6.0|40.1|57.5g.5a.5b.5v|e

this is what I usually run.

Bhawb.7408:

Brando.1374:

Incinerator

Special Changes for Necromancers:

Necrotic Bite loses the Bite animation.
Life Blast throws Incinerator instead of the regular model
Deathly Swarm throws Incinerator instead of an insect swarm that bounces between foes

WAIT A MINUTE. We throw FIRE? Crap, now I have to start farming.

yes My Necro throws the incinerator with dagger 4

Incinerator

Special Changes for Necromancers:

Necrotic Bite loses the Bite animation.
Life Blast throws Incinerator instead of the regular model
Deathly Swarm throws Incinerator instead of an insect swarm that bounces between foes