Guild Wars 2

There is a little note on the recipe for the new backpiece that has Scarlet declaring that she told Caithe one day the world would need her.

May not be what you are looking for though.

I duel on my Power Necro I was even doing so yesterday and I tend to find that yes you can duel on a Power Necro though a bi-product of it if you use the same build as me is that the fight is over very quickly and everyone can normally tell if you are going to win or lose after just a few seconds. (I am on the high end Zerka for Power Necro so not so fun to watch).

The classes I tend to have the most trouble with are Elementalists (And I can’t for the life of me work out why I might just be dumb), PU Mesmers and Medi-Guards. (Again though that might just be me being dumb)

By all means give it a go but like Rennoko said against some of these classes you might have to really work for the win.

Smooth Penguin.5294:

I bet the orphan’s trip was Kiel’s idea.

They need not fear we all know Evon will protect and evacuate them.

All I need to know is Evon the kind of Charr to let me keep one of those Airships if I kill everyone inside? (There are enough of them)

If so then he is definitely my hero.

Well Sword/Dagger is a very fun weapon set I’d say it is similar to a Power Necromancer in that it may not be the very best build and weapon set you can go with for your Class but it’s just really a lot more fun to play it, so the increase in S/D thieves could maybe just be because it’s fun.

I used P/D before but then somehow Conditions became the new thing and it felt less appealing to just be another Condition and went S/D myself as it just feels different.

Trust me I know exactly how you feel and on my server this actually came up earlier in Team chat.

The problem though as was pointed out is how do you tell who is actually Defending and who isn’t just in the area AFK or hiding so they can get the bonus? How do you get the reward system to tell the difference between an active and useful defender and someone just stood there?

I really would like us to get some more rewards and in that make defending a lot more appealing to other players but I can’t see it happening until we figure out how to tell the system who is an active defender and who isn’t in the battle first.

For the moment just try to take some Solace in that we are not well rewarded but we are just as important to our servers than any Karma train.

I use an Offhand Dagger for my Power build I find the additional Condition transfer + blind to be incredibly useful especially against bit telegraphed attacks (Like Rush, Signet of Spite ect.)

Though I was talking to someone about this yesterday I think that everyone has “their” offhand that they just find an affinity for.

For the longest time people told me I should use a Warhorn or Focus with my Dagger on a power Necro so I used the Focus and it was alright but I started using Dagger and it just feels at home so use what you feel most comfortable with not what people say is the most popular.

Waffler.1257:

I only find p/d condi thieves, d/p stealth thieves, and pu condi mesmers in OS duels, which gets boring after awhile. Sometimes it’s nice to fight other classes/builds.

Basically this if you reverse it I loved dueling on my thief but I feel I need to do something new with it so other duelists have something interesting to play against so I’m waiting to see if new patches will give us a new thief (or mesmer, Necro ect) cool idea to try.

If they added in more evasion to the thief like the “Flashing Blades” elite suggestion (though I think it would need to be toned down a bit a blind a hit seems a bit powerful) I would jump back onto the thief immediately.

To be fair the only reason I stopped playing it was because I felt we were getting forced into Stealth to much so more evasion would be great.

Rennoko.5731:

I don’t know many that solo roam with power. I know quite a few that roam in power “groups”. It just much more difficult to roam power in general, so you won’t see many people doing it.

Oh Rennoko that just wounds me You’ll hurt my feelings if you think I zerg it up. :P

But basically what everyone is saying right now is true it is extremely difficult to roam on a Power Necro you won’t win many fights and I think it is a style for a strange type of player one looking for fights not victories.

If I have to be honest with you most of my wins on this build have come from “Ambush” like tactics like pretending I haven’t noticed the thief following me, going round a corner and summoning my Golem then jumping out on him, Or by being around NPC’s while in the fight so I can draw lifeforce from them when they die and use them to rally if needed.

Also keep in mind what Pottross has said the mechanics behind Critical damage will soon change and that may affect us a lot we just don’t know right now.

Either way this is the build I am currently using with the exact runes, armor, traits, ect. (Yes I only have 2 Ascended pieces sue me :P and I believe it is a very common variation of the Power/Shroud roamer.)

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fQEQNAoYWjMah7Vaeb07JEoHvHu4MRFGGqHrj78hA-j0CBYLERjkFAk3YEIRkKBJBqIasFOFRjV7ATdSpW5KQeDLrGA-w

(We are also extremely good under water but that will be for another day.)

I find Staff useful Ash well rather I find Chillbains, Fear and Putrid Mark to be increasingly useful.

To each his own really I know that but personally for me with all the Warriors who keep coming at me the Poison and Chill really can help and we all know how many Condi-burst roamers are going around right now (Especially you evil Dhuumfire/ Spite Necros) in which I find Putrid Mark to be a delicious irony and sometimes a major lifesaver.

I guess it just depends on the player style.

Samhayn.2385:

Looks like +crit damage is getting nerfed soo…..

Yeah this actually has me quite worried about my Deathshroud Necro.

Sir Vincent III.1286:

What I’m wondering is that the thief didn’t switch to shortbow while in stealth and bombard the area with with Chocking Gas. The poison would have reduced the healing efficiency of the Engi plus the poison damage.

I would bet, that Thief is one of those who spec condition duration over condition damage.

It is possible he is using his weapons similar to how I do on my thief.

I do not take a Shortbow at all I just use a Pistol in slot one and a Dagger in slot two and use the Pistol with a Sigil of doom for maximum poison uptime (Poison on steal) without having to waste initiative to help battle Warriors and Guardians.

Well I’m a little depressed now I was fighting two TC outside of their EBG keep (after poking the water gate enough times to stir up a hornets nest) and had a really fun battle and you then run off before I can try and join the party to talk to you.

Ah well Elementalist and Mesmer whom I do not know hello and thank you for the fun fight but that has pretty much burnt me out for a few hours now. :P

(Ps – How many of you actually came in the end to fight me in the water? I’m not sure because of the mesmer)

I’m not an expert as I only started taking my Necro seriously a few months ago but the 4-5K Life blasts I think I can explain.

At least on my Necromancer I have taken the 30 trait “Deathly Perception” in Soul Reaping that grants an extra 50% chance to Critical hit while in Deathshroud. I’m currently running Knights armor (Runes of the Eagle) and trinkets with some Berserker weapons and Jewels to get 50% chance to Critical hit standard with the trait added and around 70% Critical damage so my Life blasts tend to hit around 4K each shot through this.

Taken a break from thief since the patch notes really even though I mainly used P/D I did like to swap to S/D for some diversity between the normal day every so often so swapped S/D thief for a Power Necro with Dagger/Focus – Staff.

And it’s actually really fun when you aren’t getting chased by a hoard of people after Karma, and need to watch out for Condi builds.

Winkin.1490:

It means whatever build you used to kill them will be nerfed in the next balance patch.

Welp sorry Power Necro’s I have doomed us.

I was thinking about this and I came to recall that Ride the Lightning for the Elementalist received a nerf of sorts for this kind of thing right?

If I remember correct Elementalist had Ride the Lightning changed so that the cool down on the ability increased if it does not hit a target? Now i’ve never really played a Warrior but would a similar nerf to some of their skills solve this problem without to much fuss?

I think this is the first match I have been in since the GvG/Dueling arena has been open that I have found it empty every single time I have checked and I’m running out of DvD’s to watch.

I’ve got to be honest I’m not sure if there is a good P/P build as a main weapon outside of Perplexity.

And really Perplexity gets boring, I haven’t played it so I cannot suggest your build but i’m sure there is one easy to find around these forums or on a search engine to help you out.

Qaelyn.7612:

Funny the difference between theory and reality.

Went into WvW with my guild today and was in a small raiding group (awesome.. just what I wanted to do!) And I realized.. I need my shortbow! The teleport alone is essential. So that sort of did away with the PD+DD or PD+DP decision, at least for this role.

You do not always need one equipped (Personally I only roam with one Pistol and Dagger to perma poison with Sigil of Doom) but always keeping a shortbow in your inventory is a very good rule of thumb for the thief when you need to assist in a large battle or join a group.

Buying an Invisible slot bag for your Inventory is useful for this as anything you place in there won’t show up to sell to Merchants or the Tradepost so is a good place to drop your Shortbow. (Though still appears for Mystic Forge so don’t forge it!)

Qaelyn.7612:

I got into a couple of 1v1 fights which went.. poorly. LOL It really is going to take a while, eh?

Don’t let this get you down! It doesn’t matter what anyone else says it’s the truth of the matter that a Thief is no longer the easiest class to play and learning to manage your skills and initiative will take some time, just keep trying heck if your server is doing any fight clubs go join in it is risk free experience in 1v1 scenario’s.

Qaelyn.7612:

Of course in this role dying frequently is par for the course… but still, I just sort of panic when I realize I am actually fighting.

It happens personally I’ve been playing since last November and I still panic on classes I’m not used to playing in situations I would normally be able to handle easily on my Thief as long as you keep going you’ll find eventually something will click, just try to calm yourself and slow down a little you have stealth to give you breathing room/time so you don’t have to use all of your Initiative/Utilities immediately.

If you are going to use Yishis D/D build that I think you are on about the one in the latest Outnumbered video be very careful around Classes with heavy Condition pressure as he has very little removal, I would even suggest considering changing to “Remove Condition on Stealth” trait. If you choose not to however just be very aware of who you are fighting if you see a Necromancer for example tread carefully you can’t afford to take all those Condi’s.

Speaking of Duels thank you SoR and TC people who were trying to Fightclub ^-^

Sorry I bowed out early but if Karma trains will keep rolling through i’m just going to go to bed.

(Ps – That lag.)

Sorry [RIOT] guys in EBG we’ll have to finish that between me and the thief later I guess.

Fun though.

LightningBlaze.4913:

VBK.6325:

So…any of you BG baddies gonna 1v1 me or you just gonna 5v1 and zergball?

I duel you. Are you roaming around 5pm est time today?

Can you somehow spin this into a Fightclub I may have been asleep during the last one so missed it.

Lina.9640:

Ehmry is like the League of Shadows.

We trained Batman, and we are led by Liam Neeson.

We are now accepting guild applications.

Going on that I have no choice but to believe I am Batman.

Arikyali.5804:

My thief will be hitting level 80 soon, but I need advice on running a WvW thief. I get the impression that any build aside from Berserker is frowned upon.

I would not suggest going along with anyone who tells you the only was to play a thief is full Berserker. I personally run my own brand of P/D Condi-thief using Dire armor and Settlers trinkets for the most part and it does just fine.

ghtchill.7613:

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And now for story time. It was a bright and sunny day on Mags BL when we visited. Now JQ had most of the map and were determined to erase anything TC established on that BL…

So after our slender presence was zerged out of the spawn tower, TC proceeded to skirmish the large (well la lot larger than us) JQ group. We rushed and fell back and rushed and fell back. We proceeded to do this until about 5 or 6 were killed instantly by Legendary Defenders. So, we persisted all 8-10 of us taunting them until lo and behold they chased, the whole bunch…

Cut to punch line, I have never seen an entire “zerg” get wiped by Legendary Defenders or ever heard so many /laughs go off at the same time. I was stunned to see at least 10-12 bags magically show up by my position. I was like, “did they really just do that! WTF?”

I didn’t take screen shots (I rarely do) or have this fraps thing going (hopefully someone did), but I wondered…JQ zerg, were you just goofing or were there really that many noobs in that big of a group? Please tell me. I will give you the benefit of the doubt of goofing, preferably.

Anyway, funniest moment of the match.

Its a cherished pastime in JQ, to see how far you can get into someones spawn/how many times you can reach the steps when it ports you back out.

Also, you make me feel like Mancen! I wanna Mance the night away!

So goofin then? That was funny. We haven’t had enough to laugh about, what with JQ map queues coming to our Garri and all. Thanks for the LOLs.

One guy made it to the top of the stairs, only to be mercilessly killed by invulnerable defenders…lol.

I think my personal best was being teleported out twice and making it back to steps before dieing.

That is impressive. LOL. You should do that more. Let’s make it a thing, JQ spends the rest of its time this week trying to see how many make it into our spawn and survive. Forget those towers, keeps and camps….you have enough points…we want lawlz!

We could RP as TC and surely the Legendary Defenders would let us through!

While doing RP walk? Yeeeees! Dooo it!

Can’t trust you! I sat on a supply hut as a bird and you all tried to throw me off a cliff. Bad TC!

Player Character.9467:

Wow, JQ claims they love fights, won’t gvg, and they report anybody who asks why? Please grow thick enough skin to be on the internet.

I found an uplevel Guardian earlier who wasn’t afraid to fight on his own or with even numbers outside of West keep.

Out of everyone in that group who died uplevel and 80 he was the only one who came back to try again, props to the little Asura guy though he did make a persistent effort to stop me selling to my spawned merchant.

katniss.6735:

They need that wxp badly so they can catch up to the ranks we have on mag from “just defending.”

Well you saw the rush on our NET full of Ballista earlier I kind of half believe it at that rate.

Evalana.5480:

I have been ordered to make this a 20 page thread by Friday. Let’s make it happen! I hope we have some good uninterrupted fights tonight ::glares at Vera:: you hear that! Lemme fight DB in peace! :-P

You missed a mini fightclub earlier where you could have had all the fights you wanted.

Though everyone who turned up from BP/DB bar that EA Mesmer later on was a Perma-stealth thief :/

So..uhm what is up with the Borlis players randomly inviting people who kill them to parties then not saying anything? It’s really kind of weird. :/

MrSilver.5269:

GuardianOMS.8067:

Mag just fought JQ, we know how to T1. If I wake up and we’re not at +695 someone’s going over my knee and getting a paddle.

So who is getting a paddle?

Your good as long as you run faster than the guy behind you.

GuardianOMS.8067:

VVVV Let’s not forget the traitor turned Maguuman. Mag doesn’t actively recruit, we just take who wants to have fun with us.

Thinking about me again Sweetie? I didn’t think I’d made that much of an impression.

Vendetta.1958:

You may not be able to beat us this week, but you awesome people can all log on and hold the line, and it’s still likely that you’ll all end up with some evolution points to increase your rankings for your efforts.

The question is though would this even be a desired outcome? Gain more evolution points to what end? To fight JQ and maybe Blackgate in the future? To be quite honest I would rather fall in ranking a lot until we are fighting Ehmry again and fight my old guilds “Squad” rather than a tier 2 server who will just add 50 more people to the mix each time until they finally wipe a group and I am sure I am not the only one.

The biggest mistake people make with WvW is assume that coming first is everything and that gaining evolution points is a good thing.

GuardianOMS.8067:

Golem’s Bend really needs to teach their pubs about Maguuma and siege traps. I know golems may sometimes seem like an “I win!” button but you should always be cautious when entering a keep. Even if you’re completely positive no one is inside, it doesn’t hurt to run along the walls first, it’s actually a good practice to live by.

Did they run strait into the Ballista again?

lunyboy.8672:

I know thieves are supposed to be the perfect predator and what not, but if there were some balancing, what would both camps like to (reasonably) see?

I did a Main class as a thief and then diverted to playing other classes so I’m able to adapt to different situations in WvW by changing class but I was toying with the idea before swapping all my classes that maybe “Stealth” should be set as a boon.

Boon removal is now a lot more available to other classes if you set Stealth as a high end boon for removal?

Examples of some of these removals, Well of Corruption, Remove on Mesmer shatter, Thief has the steal boon sword strike, I think the Warrior got a trait to but I’m not sure.

Andy.9137:

had a lot of fun in mag bl until mags only tactic to beat us was to use moa morph constantly

against 2 of us

My Mesmer isn’t that old off level 80 yet so I still find using Moa hilarious, it makes me smile.

Sorry but if I see a chance to make someone a Moa i’m going to just for the giggles involved. I can assure you it wasn’t a thought up Mag group plan to Moa you constantly, no one ordered me to do it to beat you it was just me being a clown.

Perceptor.7189:

oh look an amazing fights it’s coming….and my server connection it’s gone …..

My connection didn’t survive either.

Which sucks because I spent hours before reset and numerous gems getting my mesmer to lv 80 to get maybe an hour out of it Sod’s law think.

Pro, Yum why did you not bring any uplevels to the guild vs guild I wanted to do Uplevel duels because I’m to lazy to log into my thief.

StealthSnake.9134:

Hey Jinks, can you please show this lowly Maguuman how to be a super pro player like you are.

I can only kitten talk on the forums, and don’t know any better.

Hey Stealth while I have the chance to ask are you Bronze Invader Necro now? I kept seeing someone but I didn’t make any assumptions.

The Game Slayer.7632:

Is any guild, or anyone, interested in doing a little 1v1 with my guildies? i want some of them to get better in general, and they are interested as well, they need some experience. PM “Game Slayer”. I am borlis pass so this is to ebay or anvil- ty!

It is my holiday next week though I will be busy at the start I may be free by the end so I could maybe help with this, of course timezone and such stuff come into it and I am a thief.

I’ll whisper you when I can, though I assume you are going by Dueling rules, 1v1 by the Windmill no spiking? Because if I have to or you have to walk back from spawn every fight I don’t feel it’s going to be time effective.

Well I logged off, good luck with that one.

As there are many a compliments and shouts going out to thieves today I’m going to add my own to the ALS bleed spec thief I was fighting just north of North East camp on your borderland. (Not entirely how sure that fight lasted so I’m going off and saying 20 minutes maybe more)

So I heard something about a fightclub in the near future what is going on about that?

I do believe I owe a certain D/D Elementalist on Anvil rock a re-match to settle our draw.

I like the HoH guild I believe on Anvil Rock, especially the Mesmer so props to you and your Thief friend. (Though I think D/P is cheesy :P)

Also going to throw a shoutout to the [Crit] Mesmer outside AR Garrison’s South East gate about 5 minutes ago I learnt more about my timing attacks against your abilities so you also have my thanks for the duel.

Drett.7564:

Dovgan.8605:

I can only hope EBay players somehow improve. What do you do when you outman and outnumber your opponent 2 to 1? Simple answer, run like a terrified schoolgirl back to siege, because you know how lacking your players are in skill. However it IS fun to pick you smart and skilled EBayers off. Honestly I see more skilled players on BP, many more. I see an Ebay player, and the first thing I have to do is wait to see how many are running in tow.

P.S. I enjoyed the ## vs 3 in Panglos earlier, I say ## because I stopped counting at 10. You really showed that three people can easily last quite a while on 4+ to 1 odds as long as the opponents have no clue what they are doing.

Everything in this is LOL, you should write childrens stories too. What a great imagination.

Evidently all my fights against AR and BP alone while they have 3-4 have been imagined thus far.

Really don’t claim one server does something every server does I remember several occasions where BP and AR have sat in towers firing Arrow Carts at me rather than coming out with more than enough people in the tower to CC me down and kill me in seconds, Everyone does it at some point.

Yay Anvil Rock thief escorting our Goat around the battleground, I have work so I had to leave but yay to you!

zastari.1730:

Yaks response to getting wiped by DARP over and over: Add more and more people until you have a whole queued BL to take something

Were you Badge farming again? I miss that good times.

Kalkz.5297:

After we just lost Ebay hills

i can confirm

BP and AR are going to hell because of this update. incoming another 600+ screenshot of ebay

Is that a reference to the traps?

In which case you started that when you set a trap down outside Hills I just took my response in the extreme and set a trap every time I could to be spiteful. :P