Guild Wars 2

iorlas.6721:

Zord is just trolling don’t get pulled in.

Yeah, but the sheer amount of troll fodder he brings into the thread is, lets say “remarkable”. He also does not seem to have that much of a forum history…

Anyway – just to get it straight: Abaddon has been rank 11 for 20+ weeks. We were only ranked 10 before the leagues started because desolation undercut us – and trust me, desolation is actually the server that belongs to the gold league. They have far more coverage than Abaddon, or any other server in the silver league – if you think you face overwhelming odds now, you have not seen desolation yet.

And by the way: why are we gold league when even Gandara scored higher in the last match. Are they gold league too? Who is silver then?

I wish I’d get one dollar every time our server name is written wrong. Its Abaddon’s Mouth, with two “d” and one “b”. The infographic is correct though.

Thanks for the nice graphics. I like it. I don’t know if its possible, but i would really like to know how many points were made with stomps, dolyaks or sentries.

Just as a sidenote: with celestial gear you can be mediocre at support and dps at the same time.

If you want to actually choose between the two, go for dps. The largest portion of our healing comes from blast finishing the two staff water fields. And that takes the healing power of the player that executes the blast finisher (and thats likely not you). So your healing is not that helpful in this case.

Staff. Period.

-Get Reduced fire recharge trait.
-Stay in fire as long as possible.
-Spam ranged AoE
-Profit

Sentinel is so expensive because there is no real source for this. That stat was introduced during a living story part and could only be (successfully) found in the end loot chest of that dungeon. Since that dungeon no longer exists, there are only so much sentinel pieces around.

As a basic outline if you are just starting and you don’t have too much experience with buildcrafting:

- Jewelry (rings, amulet, earrings): berzerker.
- Backpiece: Soldiers (From grenth temple). If you do fractals of the mists dungeon, get the berzerker backpiece instead.
- Armor: PVT (Soldiers) or Celestial
- Weapon: Berzerker, Celestial or PVT (depending on your playstyle)

Enderr.5416:

This hate goes nowhere, at least we can agree on this . But the fact that a lot of players from Abbadon and Gandara complain about Desolation players should give you a hint about how your server is represented by “some”.

I’m sorry to interrupt you, but I can’t see a single Abaddon player complaining about desolation. Actually most desolation players have treated Abaddon with respect so far. And they are actually right when they mention that we have some dangerously unarmored players.

On a side note: I think Gandara will overtake us during the week. You certainly have more coverage during the night (We have to sleep – lol ) and we can’t bring our people in during primetime due to queues.

I like the idea as well, the nature of these two weapons really matches (just compare Range, AoE, Combo Fields) and i would actually like to see this. Like blasting staff we are not talking about damage increases, just increases of the combo fields diameters. That would really make spells like http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Murky_Water useful and be a real improvement to the Ele underwater abilities.

Full zerker produces some nice numbers when your team stacks might on you and you have 25 bloodlust stacks and a very offensive build and use tornado to boost your stats for a few seconds – but man, this usually requires some good teamplay on your side and is certainly not for everyone. Posts like this make guys like the one in the link go into WvW with paper armor and 11k hp and play rallybot for 5 guys that had friends with armor on.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/elementalist/help-with-met-shower-build-stats/first#post3047822

To cut a long story short – please feel ashamed and such.

That also means that all of your trolling was actually read Zelyhn However, if this gets the bugs fixed you get a rare essence of internet score (+200 internet)

Thanks for the responses @ A-Net. It is always nice to see some red in the Elementalist forum. Keep up the good work !

Your response is very appreciated, thank you

PvE Player: If you don’t wear armor, it can’t be damaged when you get killed… WOHOO – NO MORE REPAIR COSTS !

by the way, I think the WvW subforums are a better place to post this.

14k hp, no cantrips, almost no heal (no 15 point water trait and evasive arcana) seems like a failbuild to me. Thats like begging to get backstabbed. Also remember that you need to actually interrupt an enemy to get the confusion stacks. And this build does not really offer much to interrupt on purpose. If the enemy can resist the urge to attack during the 4 seconds of shocking aura there is not really much you can do to interrupt. Gale or one possible interrupt on a utility with a 60 seconds cooldown is not going to cut it in my opinion.

A warrior can do this job so much better – more hp and armor, distracting strikes trait to get even more confusion, more interrupting skills, 50% critical trait when enemy is stunned, 20% damage when stunned… well you get the message.

And I really wish the fire tree would help with that, but you can easily check whats there and find out that it doesn’t.

I have presonally always tried to find some other build than

0-10-0-30-30 (classic bunker)
0-20-0-20-30 (s/d burst)
0-0-10-30-30 (staff bunker with earths embrace)
0-0-20-20-30 (staff bunker with rock solid)

but any build i could come up with was far less survivable for a minor damage increase. Especially because of the massive condition bursts (6+ in 1-2 seconds) and immobilize spam I am always running with cleansing water in WvW. So currently for me 30 water and 30 arcane are hardpoints that I don’t want to miss (and the replacements in the other lines imho don’t make up for the lack of survivability and team condition remove).

Kitten, that are some impressive numbers, thanks for the heads up. Time to reroll a warrior or guardian it seems.

You can always go to the PvP locker and test the armors from the armor locker regardless whether you have unlocked them or not.

anyway here is a site where you can see the different armor for each type/race/gender:

http://www.gw2armor.com/human/male/priory/light/display_looks.php

On a side note: I recommend a female because the armor skins are a lot better and because it more fits the profession itself i think.

From what i have heard, that skill was really strong in beta because it extended ALL traits (also the damage traits – that why they are so low by the way, because you could stack them using lingering elements). Right now the trait is doing nothing but extending soothing mist (and the previous attunement icon, thanks for pointing that out !). On a side note, this also extends the fire 5 minor, but as this trait is so utter pointless I wouldn’t really mention it here.

Edit: I am really interested when you will stop counting the days until you get a red response. I don’t even know if this is the correct forum for it because it is very likely working the way they wanted it to be, so it’s not “bugged” in that sense. Granted, the trait is rather pointless and needs some serious rework fast, but it’s not bugged.

The best way to play DD Ele in PvE is by dropping a lightning hammer before using them.

And make sure you only fight against naked enemies, because you will never see 20k even against blue armor

If you want it fixed, post it in the sPvP forum and use the word “Exploit” in the title, you will get immediate attention…

Necros have high HP and death shroud to make up for their lack of stunbreaks and stability. The devs clearly stated they wanted to have it that that way so that necro is stronger because he is “committed” to a fight (no real way to escape once stuff goes wrong)

It took them 6 solid YEARS to find out that Elementalist was completely out of the picture in hard mode of GW1, so I wouldn’t hold my breath. Anyway, regarding the OP question, its guardian all the way. Heavy armor, good buffs, aegis on command to block critical boss attacks, protection, very good dps when specced for it. Trust me, with a guardian you can never go wrong, very competitive in all three modes (PvE, WvW and sPvP) and easy and fun to play.

Elementalist stunbreak cooldowns are longer to make up for the Elementalists high damage compared to other classes like warrior or guardian…oh wait…

Another theory that has to be confirmed by my NSA sources is that it’s because of the “cantrip ele is too strong” whiners that could not faceroll eles with their skilled 2-2-2-1-1-1-2-2-1-1-1-2-2-1 attack chain and feared having to learn about counter mechanics. Then they came to the forum and cried a river, because it can’t be possible that you would have to use utilies or even skills beside 1 and 2 (Dodge rolling between the 1 and 2 spam was already hard enough!). Especially thieves were almost tasked way beyond their abilities when sword skill 3 was buffed to autowin vs ele. Now they had to learn the position of another key (!) because they had already forgotten that there might be skills beyond 1 and 2. It took them days and nights of ridiculus training schedule to train themselves to use 3-3-3-3-1-1-1-3-1-1-3-1-3-3-3-1 now.

Or maybe its just because ele needs to be nerfed (regardless of its current state).

Lightning hammer or fullzerker staff with meteor + burning retreat + lava font + auto attack works pretty well actually (remember to stack up and use the burning retreat against a wall so all fire elements hit the same spot).

Or roll a warrior as suggested above. Roughly the same damage, 8000 hp more + more armor and better offensive buffs (the lightning hammer build for example has near zero teamplay except if someone drops a combo field on your feet).

Ok, I got the message. It’s as useless as i had thought. Given the presumable pretty low chance of getting an ascended weapon chest it’s a bit annoying that you can’t choose the stats in my opinion though. The way they did it, you might find one (so you’re lucky) and then end up disappointed because you’re not being able to make use of it (Can’t even sell it). The current implementation terrible reminds me of Diablo 2 where a lot of unique weapons had variable stats, so you could find one and still be disappointed because you found one with minimum stats.

I think I will find a “nice” spot in my bank for it, right beside all the other useful stuff like the watchknight tonic or those dragon firework helmet skins or the watchwork shoulders… Maybe, just maybe, A-Net comes up with better use than using the skin for transmuting or selling the item inside for just 1 gold to a vendor.

Edit: Just found someone with the same problem https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/What-to-do-with-unwanted-Ascended-weapons

Hi, sorry for posting this here, but this seemed like the most fitting place to ask this.

I found a shamans ascended weapon chest yesterday (Vitality, Condition damage, healing power). For reference: http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Zintl_weapons

As these crates are account bound, I cannot sell them on the trading post, so i would really like to ask if there is a viable build that makes use of this stat combo – because currently i don’t know any. If not, at least I have a skin to transmute from (the ascended staff skin is really well done in my opinion).

Apart from the PR stuff, I guess what he wanted to say that a lot of people here on the forum voice their opinion in a very impolite way (to say the least). In addition to that, i think he wanted to say that a lot of things are read and reviewed but not being implemented, either because of a lack of time or because they don’t want to have it that way, despite some players wanting it.

In response to the devs i would take the flame as a compliment. People only get this upset because they care for the direction of the game as much as you do. A lot of players i know (me included) have four digit numbers of playing hours. I would not play this game this much if I did not like it. Remember the uproar about the Mass Effect 3 ending? That even forced the developers to develop an 1,6GB extended ending DLC? People would have never gotten this worked up about a bad ending if the game had not been so outstanding beforehand.

That being said, its just understandable that people get worked up in GW2 as well about the current class balance for example. Its just a big letdown to know that the char you spend hundred (thousands) of hours playing is just becoming more and more obsolete and unfun to play because the game makers just decide to nerf it or completely neglect to bring it up to other classes.

There is a lot of work to do, and we just hope you make the right decisions. The complete absence of certain classes from the last MLG tournament should give you a good point to start regarding class balance.

Marklarr.7638:

Wow yeah thank you mods that was a horible comment, i am all for reading disagreements and such but its all part of the fun, that was just wrong!

Just checked the thread 15 min ago and the post mentioned was not there ….now i would really like to know what was written … because normally the mods are never THAT fast.

That’s what T1 looks like. I mean they can’t get more than 100 players on the map either and even smaller servers can get that during primetime. So the difference is how many players they have got before and after that – “Endless stream” describes that pretty well.

With the matchup almost over I think we can all agree that A-Net matchup system is very much kitten – putting a rank 3 server against rank 11 and 14 is almost as bad as the story of the last GI Joe movie (Note: I still consider us rank 11 because desolation deliberately falsifies their rating to play in silver).

In defense of piken I am convinced that they certainly had a massive influx of PvE or Less-WvW oriented players this week (this seems to happen everytime a server is dominating – although the strengh of the effect might differ from server to server). I very much doubt that we have seen everything piken has to offer – although they did have a high presence in numbers.

Its a holiday in Germany (German Unification Day), so don’t be surprised about AM numbers. A lot of guys here have also a day off on friday so our presence there might be higher than usual as well.

To all the creators of the matchup threads, is it really that hard to write our server name correctly just ONCE?!?

Hint: If in doubt – copy/paste the name from somewhere

If we could, we would not be rank 11 for 20+ weeks now. Reset is always special on AM with a whole lot more participation than during the week. Because we have a high number of workers, AM also does not really have much presence outside the primetime. Just look at the screenshot posted by ljd.4658, it shows very well that piken obviously have higher numbers and more coverage in general.

Anyway, it was really fun on Gunnars BL yesterday. And sorry for the amount of siege in our spawn tower, we likely had more siege there than the entire rest of the borderland combined…

Honestly, I think dropping in ranks has a larger impact on this because this only sends out the signal “our WvW population is declining” to other potential players. Just look which severs are receiving the majority of transfers. I feels like the most packed and stacked servers are receiving more guilds than the other way around (though i’m lacking statistical data on that issue). Just look at the servers your guilds transferred to.

If a server is dropping in ranks that usually means that guilds are leaving. Other ppl might just speculate why that is. Its either because of ridiculous queue sizes, severe internal problems on the server or a lack of good fights either on their or the opposing servers. These are usually not the ingredients you need to attract other players. Its getting even worse with all the league kitten. There is a mass exodus on a lot of servers before the leagues have even started. This is just one of the threads about this on the NA servers: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/wuv/Server-Population-Loss . On a more general note there seems to be a massive population drop in WvW across the entire board, so I don’t doubt where the rumors about Vizunah and SFR imploding come from. Just look on the general WvW forum. So many players feeling a sharp decline at the same time is hardly a coincidence.

Ins.7139:

@ AM & BB we have a planned pain train event starting at around 1600 GMT + 1 this friday, create a zerg to come fight us please, much love, Ins \o/

You’ll have to stick with BB then. AM presence is usually rather low in the hours before reset (and even more so in the last two weeks).

I don’t really like to see the matchup thread filled with posts of guilds leaving or breaking up. Had this last week as well, with a dying far shiverpeaks server and guilds stopping to play on aurora glade.

Magnetron.5823:

Guess it is time to look for a new open world PVP game, cause I will not change a server to enjoy my time in the game.

Any suggestions?

GTA Online? Too bad its only available for consoles. Battlefield 4 for PC (but i don’t know if this counts as “open world”). In fact you might as well stick with GW2 for now. There are not too many open-world PvP games i’m afraid. There is a massive lack of good games in other genres as well.

You might also consider transferring to SFR or Piken. That will fill up their queues so they can’t play so that the guilds start transferring back again… but then again there might be better ideas….

First of all: Good luck to the members of the FIRE guild, maybe we’ll meet again sometimes.

Regarding gold or silver league: AM has been rank 11 for like 20 weeks in a row now. That leaves us in a sweet spot for silver and in a terrible spot for gold league. We can “compete” with servers on rank 6 or 7 but we don’t really win those encounters (we usually get some ranking points for looking better than expected though).

We do have a number of players that want to play gold actually, but in my personal opinion that would be wrong. Just look at this match: The initial points gain of this match (that showed us on rank 9 for a short time) has already been smoked and we dropped back to 11 (what a surprise !). This is where our server is, if you ask me.

I already saw the announcement of their last raid. Why are they leaving?

Xerion.8014:

What? Is FSV gone from FSP? Lol didn’t even noticed they left.

Yes, if I remember right: FSV transferred to Gandara, then renamed themselves to “Former Shiverpeaks Vanguards [FSV]” then united with [Dius]. The new guild is called [DiVa].

Your thread was linked from the ele forums. Wasted 10+ minutes of my time reading through the posts, only to realize how much you were trolling. But successful troll is successful i guess.

If anyone gets continuously rolled by staff eles they might want to try another game, seriously.

Jatacid.3725:

OK, every single time I have asked for help on my elementalist, the answer has always been to just reroll.

Because that’s the best advice they can give you. Elementalist, being one of the classes with the heighest skill ceiling, is balanced around one or five progamers that just recently discovered how strong other classes can be when played on the same level. I would personally recommend necro at the moment, as it is one of the classes that has a real “flow” when played.

Yeah, I saw some really good small scale guilds from Gandara (especially BT and DYE) that had very good players and an amazing teamplay.

I also understand the guys that claimed that this week was the worst ever. I think etherblade farming pulled a lot of potential WvW players into PvE champion farming. I also don’t think i had much good fights. We were either largely outnumbered or we largely outmanned the enemy.

To me it also seems like there is also a real tendency towards “farming” in WvW. I don’t think i have ever seen so much wooden keeps and so much color changing ever before. It seemed a bit like: whatever karma train ran there changed colors for a few minutes just to see it capped by another server. I must admit I also ran in the Karma-Train (or should we call it Farm-Event?) when there was one. I just hit the birthday booster, went into cruise control, followed the blue mark on the map and saw my WvW rank grow. Did you encounter the same, or am I the only one that was affected by this “farming” behaviour?

eremos.8142:

Tsezar.6950:

i rarely run in a blob 99% i paly solo or with one other guy.. what now?

And we weren’t chasing that guy. What now?

Now do your job and FLAME HIM. This thread is already dangerously boring and does not entertain me at all.

Remember:

FrouFrou.4958:

I must admit during this weekend I’ve seen more emote spamming from our side more then ever before. Bumped into few randoms that were in trouble, jumped into help them and after we had pew’d the enemy, my lovely servermates started to spam /laugh. Even after pointing out that it was pretty rude as they did not even kill these dudes on their own the spam continued. On the other hand, I’ve been on the receiving end this weekend as well, got emoticon spammed from both AM and Deso, so I suppose all the servers containts some of the jerkiest jerks to ever jerkinate a jerk.

However! You don’t have to sit and suck it up, you can turn the tables around and make the best out of this rude behaviour. A little back up story for our lovely Desolation people:
http://youtu.be/0NEMMKWs0ys

For whatever reason I get teabagged a lot. I don’t provoke people with dancing or anything because I find it rude, but it still happens to me. My guildmates can go on weeks or even months without this happening to them, but it happens to me pretty much in daily basis. So! One day I just couldn’t take it anymore, this rude [lion] dudero from FSP was getting on my nerves so I decided to hunt him down, dance on his dead corpse, throw a ram to please the Great Lord Flame Ram and pray for less teabagging. Teabagging still happened, but so the Great Lion Hunt had started. First it was a silly guild activity, then it spread and other guilds in Gandara joined us. Later on it spread across the servers, people from Aurora Glade joined the cause and so lions were rammed in match ups we weren’t even part of. Our dear friends, FSV, donated hundreds of rams for this cause <3

Sadly, the Great Lion Hunt came to it’s end when [lion] moved to NA servers, and I felt like I had no reason to get up in the morning. No reason to put pants on anymore. No hope in the darkness. But then, we got this match up and I thought I’m going mental when I saw… a [Lion]. Reincarnated version! As arrogant, as obnoxious, as teabaglicious as ever. So brothers and sisters, get your rams ready, because the HUNT IS ON!

http://youtu.be/rdsQngGW3Qc

If the videos are blocked in your country due the music ’n stoof, proxy yourself with www.hidemyass.com and enjoy!

TL;DR: Prepare to get rammed, The Red Lion [Lion]

Dude, did it ever cross your mind that you are taking this GAME a bit too seriously?!?

Regarding the very bugged west tower, there is even a thread with a screenshot of an Arena-Net guy exploiting in…

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/wuv/ANET-Fix-Your-Towers

I have also invested into celestial ascended trinkets and did so also because of the MF stat on them. I also support the idea of at least giving me the chance to pick another stat combo. Just because MF was not so dominant on them as on Explorers or Travelers does not make it a candidate for just removing it without giving players the option to decide. Anything else would be again a good case of the usual “sucks to be you” attitude i have seen far to often already.

Oh come on…stop it.

All servers had smaller and bigger groups this week, even when it was just needed to keep up with the opposing servers or to take an objective.

Good luck to both servers for their next matchup. May the RNG gods in the arena net servers be with you.

NYRKKIPAULA.8051:

Valkjre.5401:

Still doesnt prove Deso is better when they make lowest income during EU Prime time. Where as Sparta alone covered over 50 points on map against whole Deso map. But if you say 35 is a Blob that can wipe a blob of 70 – Its again the same… 35 skillful over headless deso chicken who hide inside t3 keeps with 2x numbers and still lose.

Now I dont have to go around proving the difference in numbers and skills since you guys proved it yourself. That is all I wanted to hear.

Deso = unskilled mass of walking lootbags.

Dr Doda: This Is SPARTA [SPRT]
Second in Command.

Mmmh must be the reason why I didn’t die once in a 1v1 this week. There wasn’t many though since most of the time Piken is scared to fight showing their superior “open field skills”. Had to charge in to 1v3+ situations to get something going.

But kitten , lost to you with about 500 kills this week :<

I don’t want to be a prick but that might not be as surprising as it sounds. There is quite number of reasons why nobody was interested in an 1vs1.

1. Most roaming builds have an abundance of movement and/or stealth skills that makes them (almost) uncatchable if not specced in a similar way. Whenever things get rough they can just leg it and slowly fade into the horizon. I am personally not too fond of fights that I can only lose or not win either.

2. There is a small but significant difference in builds for team fights and solo fights. There is a good chance that somebody with a team/support build is not able to match an 1vs1 player even on similar skill level.

3. The players you wanted to fight is merely on the way to his group/zerg/blob/megablob/ultrablob or even blobs of that size each server always accuses the other server to have and is really needed to support the group in a fight right now.

4. All of the above

Edit: Elvicof, if his number is correct he killed one player about every 2,5 Minutes if he was playing 4 hours a day. This expands to like 17 minutes per kill if he was playing 24/7 (and I seriously doubt that he was playing 24/7).

I am from Abaddons Mouth. First of all, thank you for a very interesting week in WvW against two very strong servers. It was really exiting to see the skill levels and experience of the guilds as well as the regular players on both of your servers.

Then again, when I read this thread I wish i received one dollar every time somebody used the work “blob”. I would no longer have to work I guess

In my opinion, accusing a server from T4 onwards of blobbing is like saying that water is wet. You just dont get to that rank without manpower and where should that manpower be if not on the field. If you want to maintain or increase your rank or to lure your enemy into fights you might want to consider taking a keep or tower from time to time. But taking a keep with 20 guys can be outright impossible. Sometimes even 100 are not enough (Desolation Eternal Battlegrounds Main Keep – I’m looking in your direction ). So “blobbing” becomes unavoidable at some point even if its just to match an opposite server that decided to take a keep or tower with force. So there will be blobs/large groups often depending on how the servers play and I think complaining about these is rather pointless and repetitive.

Valkjre.5401

We never promote or encourage friendlies/pugs/soloers to bandwagon on us WE DESPISE THEM

This is the exact opposite of what our server (Abaddon) tries to do. We decided that we want to include every player as well (PUGs and guilds alike) and create one big community instead of a “separate guilds playing coincidentally on the same server” model. I am no real fan of the latter and would not be surprised when players or guilds leave your server looking for a server with more coverage, more talk/discussion and a general more open attitude. But then again it might also be exactly what certain guilds might be looking for.

Saint Scarlet.2906

AG please save us from this nightmare, we want/need good fights so badly.

Sorry, but I think AG is no match for Piken Square (not even close). They have one very good guild that can match you in skill and numbers (TUP), but the PUGs on this server are just like on any other server and will likely not be able to provide the good fights you are looking for. You may want to check out this video I have found in this weeks AG matchup thread:

Edit: Sorry for interrupting the burning flame war for a second. Feel free to go on now.

This must be either:

1. An ultimate glass cannon with ALL zerker gear and crit dmg buffood.
2. Equipped with valkyrie equipment (crit dmg, power and one defensive stat) and either used arcane power (next 4 hits are critical) or lucky with crit results.

In case of the first option his build must be something like this:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fEAQJAoYhMmIblR5wjDAEFtkiQhFOUeMTO2A-jEyAYrASWAIRgJvioxWcLiGruGT5SEVbvLiWtUARMGA-w