Guild Wars 2

um…s/d >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> d/p

Waffler.1257:

You are all so naïve. By making warriors the best class, everyone will naturally play one… and if everyone is playing the same class, the game becomes perfectly balanced.

no, the game will become incredibly boring and one dimensional….might as well play tetris

i gonna miss IOJ…but my guild moved T_T

hello FR…<_<

this game needs DR on CCs if anything

LHound.8964:

Cynz.9437:

suddenly any kind of sieg is not used anymore..except for trebs :o

Would a 10-20% increase be so much powerful that would make AC and RAMS obsolete?

Spanny.9256:

just wondering, never played gw1; what’s a necro bomb?

I Don’t make a clue! Never played it either.

look at the wall, current state of sieg + wall meta
do you really think that any sieg outside of treb would be viable if mesmer bombs were a game feature?

The problem is that majority of players will always prefer pve, hence why pve is always in focus and pvp gets less love.
Since pvp gets less love it is usually poorly designed compared to pve making it as not as fun as pve.
Conclusion? Even more ppl will prefer pve to pvp -> pvp is bound to die out in mmorpg unless the game is developed only around pvp like LoL for example.

From financial point in long run it is not worth working on pvp at all unless you invest in it right away so pvp actually has a lot to offer from begin with and servces as good basis for big pvp community that eventually spends a lot of money for game -> profit for company.

The mistakes done by Anet were:
- bad start for pvp in this game -> not many ppl will pvp
- pvp doesn’t have much to offer, has too many issues, buggy etc. compred to pve -> ppl stop pvp and do rather pve or quit all together -> pvp community becomes even smaller
- gem store offers pretty much nothing for pvp only content, the money could be made there though

Since pvp community just gets smaller and there is almost no money made from pvp, the future for pvp in this game looks rather bad since it is currently not profitable to work on it right now.

What could be done? One step is rather hard. They would have to make quite some investments into balancing pvp, make new maps, add more and better rewards + archives, add pvp only items in gem store that ppl would actually want to buy. If they actually did that investments, pvp community could potentially grow -> more ppl buying pvp stuff from gem store -> more money. The problem there is that profit from pvp items would have to cover the investment costs in given time. Too high risk, so probably won’t happen :/

i see your point, rangers/thieves team utility does kind of suck…but scouting/ninjaing things is actually very important and has bigger effect on outcome of the match/fights than you probably would think

in fact right now i am trying to make thief squad for our guild, just for scouting/slipping camps/get orbs/kill squishies in the back of zergs etc.

suddenly any kind of sieg is not used anymore..except for trebs :o

Azure Prower.8701:

I wish my thief’s auto attack did immobilize.

since warriors pretend that leg specialist auto attack is fair, might as well give it to thieves

styx.7294:

Easily countered by falling mesmers so balanced.

lol’d irl, so true

dat mesmer rain and warrior aoe immob spam…. tbh don’t feel like wvw atm :/

if they wanted ppl to care about defense they wouldn’t make sieg so kitten useless on walls which gets instantly destroyed by eles/engis/necros etc.

someone made guild named “Its raining mesmers” lol

i get them /shrug

Avatara.1042:

Cynz.9437:

Avatara.1042:

Nice QA testing Anet…

Why is it, that you always epically fail, somehow, with each patch?

the game is complex, i am sure the risk that new changes would affect that very trait in this way was really low

if anet actually tested every little part and all test cases for every patch, we would see new content maybe once every 5 years and would have to pay quite a sum for it too

bug is stupid but i can’t blame them…now that bug is out though, fast fix is kind of awaited

Their new tooltip listed the massive damage. Yes, you can completely blame them.

think how many classes this game has, think about how many skills those classes have, think about how many traits and spell changers there are…think how many conditions should be fullfilled to trigger certain event….all this permutationen are not testable within such short period of time and not payable either

the content in this game changes at very fast pace, which is fun, but it is bound to be buggy

it would be nice if they would also look into immob in the air bug, like with binding roots, where you get hit my immob in the aie animation and get stuck in there unable to use any spells nor attack nor move and just die

Avatara.1042:

Nice QA testing Anet…

Why is it, that you always epically fail, somehow, with each patch?

the game is complex, i am sure the risk that new changes would affect that very trait in this way was really low

if anet actually tested every little part and all test cases for every patch, we would see new content maybe once every 5 years and would have to pay quite a sum for it too

bug is stupid but i can’t blame them…now that bug is out though, fast fix is kind of awaited

luckywaldo.6089:

All I’m seeing in WvW right now is uplevel mesmers.

fixed

yesssss, the gods heard me and matched up SBI with t1 server; now they get to feel being outnumbered

Opc.4718:

Well seeing as conditions are pretty much a huge part of the pvp meta (and I mean pvp in the general sense of the word, not the game mode), I don’t see why you wouldn’t be running condition removals in wvw in the first place. Without sufficient condi removal, you’re pretty much walking free loot bags. If you’re unwilling to sacrifice certain utilities/trait points to have condi removal at hand at all times, you only have yourself to blame when you get melted down by things like confusion. The 4 classes I know well and regularly play (mes, guard, engi, necro) all have sufficient condition removals with several commonly viable wvw builds. I know thief and ele also have plenty of condi removal options. I’ve just never found myself in the position where confusion has become an issue during a fight, but maybe that’s because I haven’t met any good players running them yet.

the problem is that it is really easy to reapply it while removing condition has certain requirements and is usually not spammable

I will bring example a thief: yes they can trait into condi removal, but they would have to go in stealth to do so – to go in stealth they either would have to attack or use relative long CD spells like refuge or hide in shadows.

Not to mention there is DR on stealth, meaning a thief can stealth only 3 times in given amount of time, after that they are immune to stealth for a while and can’t remove conditions outside of…activating sigil which also has long CD. Once thief has no means of removing confusion except to wait.

Additinally, either it is black powder/heartseeker stealth or CnD stealth, all of them do dmg, meaning if thief has confusion stacks on them they dmg themself trying to remove confusion.

And once again, not to forget that all of that either costs initiative or has long CD, so is not spammable compared to confusion spam.

Now in real situation, knowing how much time thief would spend trying to remove those confusions they are eaither dead or had to run away.

Simply put there, no matter how you try you won’t have enough condition removals to deal with all those conditions. The rune needs long ICD.

P.S. now i just noticed that you play mesmer, engi and guardian, so it explains why you would defend something so broken.

woah forum get cleaned o.o

pretty sure sbi gathered entire bandwagon population..

i am more kitten ed about how it doesn’t matter where you place any sieg on walls, it gets instantly destroyed by eles/necros/rangers/engis…. :/

insanemaniac.2456:

im truly amazed this match is as close as it is

lol IOJ/CD/BP is really close, there were some hours where point difference was by 1 rofl

EFWinters.5421:

It’s not OP but it (and immobilize in general) is poorly implemented which leads to some annoying bugs, such as getting immobilized in the air which makes it impossible to use skills and as such kill the vines, or being rooted in a spot on the edges of the vine where you can’t attack it unless you have some kind of leap ability that forces your character to turn around.

^^this

i died so many times to roots because death blossom → roots → stuck in the air bug → can’t use anything → death

you guys fought us for few weeks now and saw how much IOJ cares about own defense, i don’t think i wouldn’t need to write long paragraphs here; some ppl from SBI was complaining how much we like to sieg up

try IOJ if you don’t care about gold

such a cloooooseeee match

i support that

we have a troll right now sabotaging BP and IOJ in wvw :/

MrFluffy.9307:

to the guy mentioning logic here’s what I have to say for you..

in a 3 way matchup of IoJ/CD/BP IoJ and BP both have a siege griefer who is wasting supply and sabotaging the matchup. Yet somehow CD doesn’t have one. Free trials are going on so I’m pretty sure no one had to spend any money to transfer servers…

basically the most likely server this troll came from is CD and considering how both servers are getting trolled at the same time adds to our suspicion, nobody is calling out the whole server we’re just saying that this troll comes from CD.

ty

Sick and tired of pugs, who don’t know what they are doing or claim that they do but cause team wipe for hours, especially on last boss.

So i decided to find few people to do TA new path on daily basis, preferably around 11am-1pm server time.

Looking only for ppl who have done it and know what to do. Add/msg me or post here. Thank you.

Recursivision.2367:

Well, if you’re going to vilify our whole server…
I was thinking about running CM this week for a new rune set… but now I kind feel like farming Tears of IoJ by tapping dat all week. I can’t recall at the moment, but you guys are blue right? God I love blue keep.

go for it, as long as you don’t abuse glitches heh

as stated before, tears are from ac btw..<_<

- i wouldn’t say healing is worst, there are classes that have worse heals
- mobility might be not the best but really you don’t need high moblity if you run with the group
- dmg is indeed quite high, especially vs groups
- necro survival mechanics make up for lack of dodge
- HP – agree
- while necros don’t directly apply buffs on allies their conversions and utlity is probably one of the best in game; i wish i had more spell slots on my necro, so many usefull skills for group fights <3333
- ppl don’t being necros for combo fields nor anyone asks them for that; i think guards, eles etc. fill that role pretty well there already
- well guess what? not every class has low CD stun breakers or stability as well; necros are still able to use some spells while being CCd

i am not talking about 1v1 situation btw since we talk about wvw and it is usually about group fights; necros are highly valued for groups due to blinds, conditions, conversions and ability to kill crap on the wall

i personally just switched from thief to necro and am amazed how good they are in group fights so i really don’t understand how OP could be serious

we have a thief leading karma train in EB, everyone loves him..<_<

but i would say go guardian for utility and tankiness

Um, that thief did glitch inside our keep and she also said she did it.

I don’t have grudges against CD, in fact i never fought them before this 2 weeks, so i honestly don’t understand why they have to abuse such kind of crap.

Soon.5240:

The thing about Engineer’s use of the Perplexity Runes is that the main tools/kits/weapons that we use to proc Interrupt or add Confusion do very little damage in and of themselves. Static Shot, Magnet, Prybar, Shield, #3 Bomb – none of these are very powerful.

what does it matter when the person sits there with 25 confusion stacks and can’t attack back…

look at fireworks thief, he didn’t even use any weapon dmg and thieves can’t even get such high stacks like engi

Xcom.1926:

They should disable WvW for free trials, simple.

^^this

amount of trolling in wvw right now is silly

not sure if srs…necro is like most OP class in wvw right now….

Please give us option to report for griefing. Past 2 weeks or so our entire server was getting griefed by few individuals:

- we had an enemy thief in EB glitching into our keep and keeping it contested/killing sieg; according to him he’s been reportekitten y time sbut never got banned even though he been abusing glitches for months now
- we had players xfer to our server, joined wvw commander guild that is basically server bank for sieg and mats as commander and cleared all of it, basically robbing entire server of sieg/mats/gold etc; guess what? we didn’t get stuff back even though it can be easily tracked in guild log; it took 2 guilds to report him to actually get that guy banned
- we have a player right now on our server that drains all supplies from all keeps and builds as many trebs as possible inside the keep that serve absolutely no purpose nor can hit anything
- wvw is still plagues by zoom hacking

Reporting players for botting would hardly help there.

Lord Galwrath.9302:

Cynz.9437:

looking how CD has a thief last week tapping our keep for 2 hours straight i am guessing that troll is from CD as well

What’s next? Are you gonna call anyone from CD who plays during Oceanic primetime a troll too? What a joke you are.

idk what oceanic has to do anything with it but considering that that thief, accodring to her words, was asked to troll our keep for few hours and glitched in our keep as well (i can provide screens) and now this treb troll, makes me think you guys got some fishy stuff going on over there

if you wanna pretend that you are such a legit server, then at least help us to report those ppl instead of asking them to troll us

oh look we got another such troll

he drains all supplies from our keeps and builds 1000 trebs inside that serve no purpose..

ahhh maybe sbi will end in gold legaue after all

i wanna see them fight BG

uh at least we got ahead in score again

but srsly i wish anet would bann IP adress from such trolls :/

idc if he is from CD or BP, crappy move from you guys… looking how CD has a thief last week tapping our keep for 2 hours straight i am guessing that troll is from CD as well

crap stuff aside, one of the funnest moments today (see screenshot): we are on a boat yo

uh hello? anything gonna be done about it maybe?

Diamond.1093:

Cynz.9437:

Diamond.1093:

Cynz.9437:

Marcol.2349:

Chilly.2087:

Chilly.2087:

I’d like to say good 2v5 fight against HK minus the poor player charr guardian. Was a good long fight even though you guys had the advantage of your spawn being nearby. XD

UPDATE: I found one of the HK thieves a part of the 2v5 and he wanted to duel. I’d like to share my experience with you.

inb4 forums spice up~
Needs more NA in these pages, not enough QQing and gifs.

I’ll start it off, to the IoJ guy QQing about KOME being able to put pressure on your night crew. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH I CANT SOLO A KEEP ANYMORE WAAAAAAAHHHH THERE IS NIGHT PRESENCE

/begin

i saw NA ppl running away again….zzz

Cough.. Thats not my camp by the way.

signet warrior in our guild!??? BLASPHEMY!!! brb reporting to GM lol

jokes aside though, wasn’t there 3 of you at least judging by the chat..<_<

Nope, look at the map. I was solo

were you really? chat says otherwise o.o

Diamond.1093:

Cynz.9437:

Marcol.2349:

Chilly.2087:

Chilly.2087:

I’d like to say good 2v5 fight against HK minus the poor player charr guardian. Was a good long fight even though you guys had the advantage of your spawn being nearby. XD

UPDATE: I found one of the HK thieves a part of the 2v5 and he wanted to duel. I’d like to share my experience with you.

inb4 forums spice up~
Needs more NA in these pages, not enough QQing and gifs.

I’ll start it off, to the IoJ guy QQing about KOME being able to put pressure on your night crew. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH I CANT SOLO A KEEP ANYMORE WAAAAAAAHHHH THERE IS NIGHT PRESENCE

/begin

i saw NA ppl running away again….zzz

Cough.. Thats not my camp by the way.

signet warrior in our guild!??? BLASPHEMY!!! brb reporting to GM lol

jokes aside though, wasn’t there 3 of you at least judging by the chat..<_<

Oozo.7856:

TooBz.3065:

Agreed. There is a great video out there of a thief with only an off-hand pistol killing people with these runes.

You must have missed his video of killing people with perplexity and fireworks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1z-d9vGO52E

i think there was video of confusion warrior and engi abusing it as well
25 stacks of confusion is absolutely fine …yeah?

well, we faced sbi and had similar issue

they had every map queued + we got double teamed on top of it, it was really stressful but can be dealt with

for example, when we had very few ppl on and SBI still had their major zergs around, we had little group flipping camps and building golems and other group distracting enemy by tapping and trying to ninja towers etc.

when we were done making golems, we flipped kitten in maps, when zerg reached us, we would wp golems and go to next map and continued flipping stuff; we might have no lead in ppt but kept it stable

other example was when NSP and SBI were double teamining on us and had 70 ppl zergs trying to take all our stuff: we sieged up a tower, let the walls be broken, set guardians and bunker wars in front of the holes in the walls, squishies on superiors and farmed the kitten out of blobs, funny enough people like to get rolled only so many times, eventually they left us in peace for a while

there are many ways of dealing with huge numbers if you put some effort and tactics in it and get on TS and i honestly find it more fun that winning a match like right now; we have currently quite close match up but i am honestly really bored of it already

Player Character.9467:

This thread seems way to big for a recruitment thread for 1 person… buncha try hards up in here.

i wasn’t recruiting, i was just saying my personal exp as EU person on NA server, i can’t leave much feedback on other servers, as i only played on DH and IOJ and i certanly wouldn’t suggest going to DH right now as it is dead wvw wise

besides i am sure other people read this thread as well so i am guessing people recruit so maybe other players will consider moving to those servers

too easy to abuse on some classes

put long ICD on effect or something :/

inb4 condition removals: not everyone is guardian and that crap can be reapplied instantly in stacks