Guild Wars 2

gotem.5284:

Interesting how IOJ claims they were out manned by SBI but tonight maxed every borderland.

Something doesn’t add up!

1. after reset we have a lot of people queued, problem with SBI was that they had absurd amount of people on 24/7 not just in prime times

2. last week commander decided to leave NSP in peace so we didn’t attack any of NSP points after reset so SBI got plenty of time to leech off NSP; eventually IOJ commanders agreed to attack NSP but it was kind of too late and we got double teamed a lot too

3. you get outmanned buff if there are three times more enemies on the same map, so even if they had double numbers we wouldn’t have the buff~

As for ET/HOD, i kind of do feel bad. It was kind of fun at first roll over HOD BL with the guild and build WP in their Hills but it got boring pretty fast. Idk how this week will end up yet, but it seems like you guys did get screwed on match-up this week. Sorry

Props to all ET/HOD who still were fighting despite major zergs running over their points. /salute

+505 right now, rather absurd. Will probably have to slow down if IOJ doesn’t want to shoot up and fight too populated servers.

On bright side, this week probably won’t be as stressful as vs SBI so i could finally lv my necro

This was hella stressful week. Thanks for fights and bags. GL.

I understand people want to take out cannons or players standing on the edge, it is all fine and good but it is honestly almost impossible to defend some towers/keeps simple because eles/engi/necros etc. can hit so far in the walls and sieges range is limited

examples:
1st screenshot: entire wall of the tower is covered in aoes
2nd screenshot: look at the cart and ele aoe’ing it on the left

maybe add some more walls or edge to walls or buff range on sieges so you can build it in the back

the absurd amount of aoe like this is reason why people abuse zoom hacks

as for outnumbered buff: it is completely worthless and doesn’t help a little bit in wvw really, it is only help for pve’ers

it would be really nice if that buff gave you extra toughness/dmg or made you build sieg/repair walls faster

Yerffejy.6538:

Cynz.9437:

hey SBI, teach me how to hit ACs from so far beyond camera….mmmmmmm?

Roll an ele. Equip a scepter. Attune to Fire. Click on AC. Walk up to wall. Cast Dragon;s Tooth.

That should pretty much do it.

sigh, that blows

i wish something was done about massive aoe on the walls, it is almost impossible to defend some towers/keeps because all walls get aoed -_-

stealth doesn’t give you shields nor any really good heal outside of hide, thieves are squishy as hell too

it is way easier to kill thief in stealth by just spamming attacks and aoe than let’s say guard or war that have stupid moblity and kittened defensives

if they nerfed stealth tehy would have to buff survival from thieves and trust me, you won’t like it

hey SBI, teach me how to hit ACs from so far beyond camera….mmmmmmm?

yeh rune is absurd

i sat with 25 stacks of confusion, half of the stack lasted for 30 sec… FML

jesus 35 ppt

i think this was quite stressful few hours, rushing golems all over BLs just to flip keeps to get some ppt up

get camp → build golems → rush keep → outnumbered buff → WP TO NEXT BL D8

you kitten basterds really needed 50 ppl to zerg 4 man :’(

i am in your corner, ninja trebbing your towers…<_<

one good thing about massive zergs is that farming them with ACs in our keep is actually profitable and requires little effort xD

woot, he is back into room after patch

Gravy.7589:

Cynz pictures show that indeed the rumors are true that WvW is bout numbers not skill. Map que on your BL’s against 20 man parties, you should be kitten ing them. Also proves that SE is in the exact same position they were on DH, being basically the only guild with numbers during NA prime. Lastly, you will do more by splitting up your 50-60 man blobs SE. Safety in numbers yo!!

SBI had 4 guilds running at that time, that was waaaay more than 20… and we did have like 30 maybe, at least from our guild

our guild doesn’t have 60 ppl in wvw at the same time exept maybe in first hour after reset…. where do you even see 60 ppl blob from our guild on any of the pictures….extraggerate much?

i am guessing SBI finds it only fair when IOJ has outnumbered buff

as for IOJ as server, i love it here, it is way more organized than DH, has friendly community that actually gives a kitten about wvw, has decent oceanic coverage and you don’t always end up in situation where you are happy to even have 20 ppl in one map

oh, @ all Abys members: if i emoted you, it was ment friendly as fellow guild from DH

i liked how you painted nsp BL in green lol

absurd stacks from confusion from eles….ew

Um, enemy pulled lord out of his room and killed him, now he is stuck in the wall and prevails there for hours now. Even if the wall is broken again and he is rezzed he just sits there.

Anet, mind putting him back to his room so enemy servers don’t just kill him outside of the walls all day?

Tots.3056:

Cynz.9437:

oh look more of double team lovin:
http://i.imgur.com/LRzxBFo.jpg

i hope this will end the whole come out of tower and fight talk zzzz

I hope you realize in this “Clear double team” that there are TWO SBI and ONE WHOLE NSP.

/facepalm

it wasn’t about 2vs 30, it is about the fact that nsp and sbi run around together and help each other on every map

matty.4907:

Zerg harder ponyboy.

Edited your pictures for stuff that actually matters and put it in one.

Maybe they didn’t come out of the tower because….

YOU HAD YOUR ENTIRE KITTENING QUEUE OUTSIDE.

Again a perfect example of ridiculous claims and lack of common sense from IoJ. Your guild obviously fits right in.

um it wasn’t all of us there, just 2 guilds

besides isn’t it what sbi and nsp wanted from us? to come out that is

sbi had maxed zergs 24/7 all this days, so whats your point?

Having fun today for sure:
so you wanted us to come out? ok
http://i.imgur.com/X1oY5To.jpg

jk SBI zerg got rolled mltiple times
http://i.imgur.com/aE6MpnY.jpg

SBI tells us to come out and fight eh? kitten hypocrits
http://i.imgur.com/jbFUUDZ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/cfM8452.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/FSpHr5T.jpg

i guess NSP and SBI still have buddy party:
we were trebbing SBI, NSP decided to kill the treb, isn’t it nice of them?
http://i.imgur.com/qNUSbpl.jpg

oh look more of double team lovin:
http://i.imgur.com/LRzxBFo.jpg

i hope this will end the whole come out of tower and fight talk zzzz

the ac was behind…

styx.7294:

You shoulda transferred all the way to rank 1 if you wanted to be on a server that doesn’t face servers with much more people (though if you’re on the wrong time of the day, you can still get heavily outnumbered). Did you not expect this?

yes, i didn’t expect SUCH absurd numbers, being outnumbered is fine from time to time but not 100% of the time and by so much

ah ya and nice zoomhacks and alliance you got there guys

I come from DH, we just xefered to IoJ. We dealed with stupid SBI numbers last week on DH and have to deal with them this week as well.That is where being tired comes from.

+600 was indeed ridicilous, but personally i didn’t get much to see from that last week as we just xfered. I just know for 2nd week now it is like in 300 movie all day.

My point is, if it wasn’t clear: you guys are so proud of yourself and tell other servers they should learn to wvw when all honestly only reason why you win is because of absurd numbers. Come down from your high horse, high tier servers with same numbers would faceroll over you.

As for emoting and hacking, i hope you realize people get discouraged alone by faceing such numbers, getting teabaged is not helping really. Eventually they don’t want to WvW anymore. Instead of destroying WvW community, you should be encouraging it :/

Mickz.8356:

Cynz.9437:

all i see is huge amount of players from SBI as well as hearing that they have hours of queue for each map while we have outnumbered buff…

i am surprised SBI is even talking crap, you guys just win by pure numbers, every time we had even numbers you all ran and wp’d away

it took few organized little groups (lol 2-4 manning entire NSP corner, SBI camps and garrison) and we took ppt lead few times despite having outnumbered buff 24/7 while you guys just rely on huge numbers all the time

also, i am really disappointed by the sbi behavior: you guys bring 4 guilds just to wipe little group of 15 ppl and then tbag and spam emote us, you should be ashamed

the whole alliance with NSP is just a pure joke, watching how NSP and SBI zerg sit together at tower and not attack each other waiting for us and how NSP dries us off supplies while SBI trebs tower just makes me wonder, is it really necessary?

I just think you guys are mad because you cant PvDoor off hours against us.

mad? hardly mad, more like tired, no matter where you go all you see is huge sea of red names vs small group of us and you guys talk so much crap too when to be fair 90% of your zergs weren’t even organized it is just sheer numbers that allow you to overrun everything

btw i am one of those offhours people, i zerg bust with the guild in prime hours or ninja camps/towers with 1-3 ppl and i personally just get really tired atm, i can take all i want, i can reinforce all i want, it doesn’t matter since you just keep sending cannon fodder untill wall/door is broken and if it doesn’t work you just rely on zoom hacks (yes, sadly there were quite few of you abusing hacks)

the joke is, with this numbers you should be facing higher tier servers but you would probably get facerolled

i have to admit it felt good to 3 man your garrison tho :P

all i see is huge amount of players from SBI as well as hearing that they have hours of queue for each map while we have outnumbered buff…

i am surprised SBI is even talking crap, you guys just win by pure numbers, every time we had even numbers you all ran and wp’d away

it took few organized little groups (lol 2-4 manning entire NSP corner, SBI camps and garrison) and we took ppt lead few times despite having outnumbered buff 24/7 while you guys just rely on huge numbers all the time

also, i am really disappointed by the sbi behavior: you guys bring 4 guilds just to wipe little group of 15 ppl and then tbag and spam emote us, you should be ashamed

the whole alliance with NSP is just a pure joke, watching how NSP and SBI zerg sit together at tower and not attack each other waiting for us and how NSP dries us off supplies while SBI trebs tower just makes me wonder, is it really necessary?

maaan, watching how sbi and nsp were sieging our bay for hours and days was ridicious ~

i like how IoJ keeps own BL clean but i do wish we were more agressive after reset :/

probably best spent 1000 gems ever, love this server

Yeah, i don’t understand that buff either. It doesn’t help to deal with situation at all especially when you face a server with very large population and have to defend with very few players.

In wow at least, when you were outmanned, you did extra dmg, had extra defense etc.

Too little commitment from DH players for WvW, we got laughed at when we asked help in wvw, we got trolled etc. We got basically 0 help from the server while everyone on server gained profit from wvw.

Got too tired spending days and night in wvw so unthankful trolling pve’ers can farm invasion/FG better. DH abandoned us, not other way around.

Loving it on IoJ right now, as Pro said, well organized here and server actually cares about WvW.

IOJ vs SBI vs NSP

IOJ doesn’t have numbers to fight SBI, leave alone NSP on top of it

SBI made alliance with NSP, so we are 2v1 atm

SBI has like 2 hours q for each map and and we we don’t have such numbers, so end up having outnumbered buff :x

feeling like in 300 movie, few of us vs endless sea of red names

really really really tiring

same issue here, SBI vs IOJ vs NSP

IOJ has outnumbered buff in EB in prime times because the zergs from SBI are incredibly huge. And not only that, anet employes play on the server that is already hugely outnumberes other aka on SBI side.

SBI is t2 server and shouldn’t be facing IOJ right now. Worst match up i ever saw. And anet supporting that server is even bigger slap in the face.

This is just really absurd, we face like 70 ppl zergs in every single map and we have to defend it all with our small groups of 20-30 ppl. It feels like in some kind of 300 movie where little group of people keeps fighting huge army day and night and get spam emoted from enemies when that zerg rolls over.

SBi has 2 hours queue times for every wvw map and we have to fight it all with little numbers.

This is not fun by all means, just getting rolled over by groups that are many times bigger than yours. So people just abandon wvw.

Also, every time on this weekend we tried to attack keeps in SBI BL entire group would crash but SBI players wouldn’t. Apprently it is fine for us to attack NSP BL, our BL or even EB but getting keeps in SBI BL is not happening since entire group would crash instantly.

On top of it, SBI and NSP apprently work together now. They don’t attack each other, at some point NSP was sitting in our tower, SBI was sitting outside that tower and they didn’t attack each other, they all waited for us to kill us. SBi doesn’t take NSP points anymore, NSP doesn’t attack SBI neither, they just 2v1 IO right now.
Glad that devs decided to help SBI as well. Thanks bunch.

Oh, not to mention that anet employes are running with SBI too. What a coincidence.

Every time we try to attack hills/bay/towers in SBI borderlands everyone crashes but SBI players. I don’t know if it is server issue or even hacks, fix would be nice though. Literary can’t touch anything there right now but camps.

Looking at amount of hacking going on in wvw, i doubt it is that simple :/

Everyone but SBI players keep crashing in SBI borderlands. Every time we go attack any keep/tower entire group crashes.

Sambuca.9754:

this the rune that adds confusion? turn auto-attack off and problem solved, no?

and let them kill you since you can’t attack back…yeah, great suggestion

i think there should be DR on how many stacks and on duration for such conditions

you can go in stealth/blind someone only 3 times for example and it gets cleared pretty fast, why not do same for confusion?

KOK.2650:

Straegen.2938:

For a thief to do 6k against a hardened target, it requires full glass and perfect execution. For a condi build to do 2k or more per tick, the player can be almost completely bunker. That same thief that hits for 6k can easily be hit for 10k+ and has a low HP pool. Given the same attacker with the same stats a thief can be one shotted:

((806 * 2.4 * 3000) * 3.00) / 1064 = 16382

A thief can put zero point in precision , stacking toughness, power and crt dmg only and still able to crt more than 7k on a tank.
I wonder what can hit a 3k armor thief for 10k? Another thief maybe?
The fact that OP said toughness should mitiage condition shown that he run hidden killer build and want to win all the time.

7k is inrealistic on a tank…

TyPin.9860:

And I want thieves not to remove all my conditions during stealth and heal. But that’s not going to happen.

that would make nobody wanna play thieves anymore, they are already pretty squishy as it gets

i find him annoying, too much talking and there is always seems to be something missing

Pro is good commander, i had a lot of fun doing zerg busts with him. He is a nice guy and whole female thing is just a joke, people really need to stop getting so worked up about it.

Also, i am loving it on IoJ. There is always some group going on and people work together even if they are not on TS. +575 atm, compared to DH it is just nuts. Thanks for great experience

P.S. Btw, i am female :P

LanfearShadowflame.3189:

Cynz.9437:

LanfearShadowflame.3189:

My suggestion would be to grab screenshots, keep a record of where and when and then open a full ticket via the support website. This way you can attach multiple screenshots and present more detail to support your concern. The report interface is simply too limited for the claim you’re making, imo.

well issue with that is that in WvW you don’t see names of the players so screenshots would be kind of useless… maximum i can tell is the name of the guild that is

Which is also why I suggested tracking, when and where. The time of the offense, along with the location, in conjunction with a screenie of the offender would make it easier for them to track down the person in question. Its what logs are for.

what if there is 70 people zerg?

Suddenflame.2601:

Report for botting. The botting one will make their account become under watch if reported enough times and if there is hacking it would turn up in the botting.

what they do is not exatly botting, that is the thing

bots follow certain pattern and it is easy to see it

players abusing hacks don’t follow the pattern so even if their account would come under watch since there is no bot pattern in behavior it won’t be banned

Daywolf.2630:

Yeah, that would be seldom used…
Every time a thief wipes five guys, must be hacking hehe

nice joke, i play a thief…

i am talking about things like zoom hacks and non clippling hacks that allow you to walk through the solid walls etc.

you probably didn’t do any WvW yet because a lot of players abuse hacks in there, especially top rated servers

LanfearShadowflame.3189:

My suggestion would be to grab screenshots, keep a record of where and when and then open a full ticket via the support website. This way you can attach multiple screenshots and present more detail to support your concern. The report interface is simply too limited for the claim you’re making, imo.

well issue with that is that in WvW you don’t see names of the players so screenshots would be kind of useless… maximum i can tell is the name of the guild that is

There is hacking going on left and right in wvw and yet the cloest i can report players for is scamming.

It would be really nice if i could report players for hacking :/

dem zoom hacks~

Got into room with huge icicle hanging from celling, can’t damage it. What to do?

How can you look up someone build outside of looking at their buffs and spells they use?

Hello everyone,

i just joined the game, been playing it for bit less than month and i actually like it a lot. Main reason why i joined it was for pvp so i would really like to get into arena however i do lack knowledge and experience. I play a thief.

I would really apprecitae if anyone got any tipps for arena, thief class, where i could look up some good info for arena/tricks vs other classes etc.

Thank you

CAA.9653:

Is SE an NA guild?

yea

pro, they won’t want to have your babies~ don’t even bother :P

can’t wait to xfer off DH

It is even fight as long as our and that other pvp guilds stays on, when they go sleep we lose everything and that’s the issue. Players in our guild are exhausted from trying to keep our server points up somewhere by staying up all night and investing own reaources (gold, badges etc.) all the time. The participation on our server is really low and you even get laughed at if you try to motivate players to do wvw.

Now it seems to be almost certain that we xfer off DH, somehow i am pretty sure DH will end up really really low at this point.

or zoomhacks

@ devs, btw there is NO OPTION to report player for hacking…

nah let’s lock players to crappy server where entite server doesn’t even bother doing wvw and you end up in 5vs 70 situation every day because everyone on your server would rather farm invasion

you guys don’t realize how frustrating it is to play on such unmotivated server that have high population but none of those people would want to do anything for wvw

on my server right now it is only 2 guilds that even do anything and they both wanna xfer from the server because you just can’t hold everything with like 30 ppl vs 2 other servers that actually run multiple groups of 50+ players

and worts part of it if you try to motivate all those players to go to do wvw they just laugh at you

If they locked xfers i would just reroll on other server at this point.

in every game people cry about stealth, it is pathetic

if we start removing stealth, lets also remove shields, knockbacks, illusions etc.

you know what the game would come to? yeah one class having 3 spells: 1 simple attack, 1 block and 1 heal; who would play that game…

every class does have its advantages, every class has its unique spells

you think thieves have fun times vs other classes? not really

as for complains about stomping thieves, if i don’t have to stomp them i just kill them in downed state; problem solved