The worst thing about Chrono is the excessive visual spam. I thought base Mes could clutter the screen (I could still easily spot the real one,), but Chrono takes it to another level.
I had match vs 3 mesmers and 2 necros with minions…. my eyes were bleeding from looking at the screen.
To be fair, the pro league players i know usually experiement on different builds all the time. I highly doubt it would be like oh noes revs suck now and our rev can’t play anything else. I actually think finals might turn out most exciting thing compared to snooze fest we had for months now.
It was definitely weird, i had couple matches that were rather strange but overall it was mostly ruby/diamond vs ruby/diamond (hit diamond finally on vanilla dp teef woohoo) so i think it is working more or less in “populated” divisions.
I am surprised some people complain about nerfs when Op clearly said his suggestions are mostly nerfs. I do agree with OP overall that we need massive nerfing across all classes (yes even thieves in some areas) to cure the power creep we have atm. I find a lot of suggested changes reasonable actually.
It’s funny but it is the concept of a chronomancer. It isn’t fair but if you put a single condition the concept will break.
Not trying to be too salty here but just an example: thieves are supposed to be master of shadows, stealth etc. Yet scrappers are better at it atm. Then thieves are also supposed to be deadly in 1v1 combat but they can’t 1v1 to save their live – Anet throws their own concepts out of the window whenever it pleases them.
Your argument’s logic indicates that we should all just embrace a notion in which sPvP should allow PvE gear, food, ascendeds, etc. and not be decided by an amulet system because completion of core content should supercede class balance in a competitive game mode designed to reward skillful play at PvP over PvE success, because there exists some degree of power increase at specific content type based on prior completion of any other given content type, relevant or not.
Nope.
Elite specializations are game-wide and do not require the completion or investment of the expansion content. Therefore, they should not be innately superior to core specializations at non-expansion content.
I don’t see why not.
you know by that logic thief class should be deleted from game completely since they are not effective
“Despite the fact the thief has no active cooldown system and can maintain very high damage outputs because of it without really needing auto-attacks as filler between cooldowns, and that the thief already has some of the best AA DPS in the game, we’re going to buff the AA damage because the thief is in a bad spot right now in PvE and raids when in particularly long encounters. It’s been made very obvious that the thief has no support, sustain, or intrinsically overpowered abilities or synergies which currently define how sPvP is played via the bunker meta, but we are too lazy to look into actually re-working or investigating any problematic design decisions and are instead just tweaking numbers we got from our QA players who only play PvE bearbow, hoping things improve.”
Thief
we decided that throwing auto attack damage in the mix will solve this. Our vision is your role shouldn’t be able to contribute to anything other than finishing half dead enemies or +1 fights
Unfortunatelu this is how it should be…otherwise you have to nerf their mobility.
revs, druids, mesmers, eles say hi
Rev cannot use his mobility to escape away from the fight at will.
wat? since when?
Since always unless you trying to imply that phase traversal is ground targeted in which case /facepalm.
you can use all 3 shiro utility spells to get away if you use it properly
yeah you may not be able to teleport on top of clocktower roof but on other hand you have UA with endless following range
besides thieves don’t get away for free, it either costs ini or CDs and are not always available~
Oh yeah..i completely forgot that riposting shadows cost next to 0 energy and that we swap to new legend with 100% energy. Keep acting like revs has everything for free and always available. Not. And riposting shadows wont let me get away from mobile class btw. the only way i can escape from fight is when i am not focused.
I believe his point was more so that the impacting cost of revenant utilities/skills are far less than the cost of thief utilities/skills.
Thief utilities don’t prevent weapon skill/utility/elite use and aren’t forced packages.
They’re also much worse for escaping and survivability in-general (you can equip as many stun breakers as you want or cleanses while Rev cannot).
Play mallyx duhh, stab on dodge helps a lot.
Sure thief utilities don’t prevent weapon skills but thieves also don’t have double utility bar and instant refill of ini~
Also did you just say that revs have worse survival than thieves? Are you serious? I can stay in team fights and 1v1 on rev, i can’t do it on thief.
I suggest you go re-read what I said, then go read the Revenant traits.
“Play mallyx duhh, stab on dodge helps a lot”
Mallyx and Stab-on-dodge have nothing to do with each other. So please, follow my advice
mallyx is for resistance /facepalm
At the risk of continuing this pointless argument, I’m just gonna say this: You didn’t say Mallyx was for Resistance, but rather tried to point out that because of Mallyx, you could have Stab-on-dodge.
you complained about condi cleanse and stun breaks
The change to long queue times went out last night, so this is the result of that. The search range is clearly expanding too much, so we’ll reconfigure it to be a tighter search again.
Thief
we decided that throwing auto attack damage in the mix will solve this. Our vision is your role shouldn’t be able to contribute to anything other than finishing half dead enemies or +1 fights
Unfortunatelu this is how it should be…otherwise you have to nerf their mobility.
revs, druids, mesmers, eles say hi
Rev cannot use his mobility to escape away from the fight at will.
wat? since when?
Since always unless you trying to imply that phase traversal is ground targeted in which case /facepalm.
you can use all 3 shiro utility spells to get away if you use it properly
yeah you may not be able to teleport on top of clocktower roof but on other hand you have UA with endless following range
besides thieves don’t get away for free, it either costs ini or CDs and are not always available~
Oh yeah..i completely forgot that riposting shadows cost next to 0 energy and that we swap to new legend with 100% energy. Keep acting like revs has everything for free and always available. Not. And riposting shadows wont let me get away from mobile class btw. the only way i can escape from fight is when i am not focused.
I believe his point was more so that the impacting cost of revenant utilities/skills are far less than the cost of thief utilities/skills.
Thief utilities don’t prevent weapon skill/utility/elite use and aren’t forced packages.
They’re also much worse for escaping and survivability in-general (you can equip as many stun breakers as you want or cleanses while Rev cannot).
Play mallyx duhh, stab on dodge helps a lot.
Sure thief utilities don’t prevent weapon skills but thieves also don’t have double utility bar and instant refill of ini~
Also did you just say that revs have worse survival than thieves? Are you serious? I can stay in team fights and 1v1 on rev, i can’t do it on thief.
I suggest you go re-read what I said, then go read the Revenant traits.
“Play mallyx duhh, stab on dodge helps a lot”
Mallyx and Stab-on-dodge have nothing to do with each other. So please, follow my advice
Also, it’d be cool if they nerfed Unrelenting Assault’s damage (especially since it’s a defensive and offensive combined skill) but added a functionality where the skill deals 25-50% increased damage when it hits a unique target from the previous strike (or alternatively, deals reduced damage when it strikes the same target more than once in a row, though that clashes with the skills name) so that the skill becomes a better cleave skill and doesn’t need excessively high damage to justify the skill hitting multiple targets.
Also I agree with moving damage from their AA to Sword 2.
Thief
we decided that throwing auto attack damage in the mix will solve this. Our vision is your role shouldn’t be able to contribute to anything other than finishing half dead enemies or +1 fights
Unfortunatelu this is how it should be…otherwise you have to nerf their mobility.
revs, druids, mesmers, eles say hi
Rev cannot use his mobility to escape away from the fight at will.
wat? since when?
Since always unless you trying to imply that phase traversal is ground targeted in which case /facepalm.
you can use all 3 shiro utility spells to get away if you use it properly
yeah you may not be able to teleport on top of clocktower roof but on other hand you have UA with endless following range
besides thieves don’t get away for free, it either costs ini or CDs and are not always available~
Oh yeah..i completely forgot that riposting shadows cost next to 0 energy and that we swap to new legend with 100% energy. Keep acting like revs has everything for free and always available. Not. And riposting shadows wont let me get away from mobile class btw. the only way i can escape from fight is when i am not focused.
I believe his point was more so that the impacting cost of revenant utilities/skills are far less than the cost of thief utilities/skills.
Thief utilities don’t prevent weapon skill/utility/elite use and aren’t forced packages.
They’re also much worse for escaping and survivability in-general (you can equip as many stun breakers as you want or cleanses while Rev cannot).
Play mallyx duhh, stab on dodge helps a lot.
Sure thief utilities don’t prevent weapon skills but thieves also don’t have double utility bar and instant refill of ini~
Also did you just say that revs have worse survival than thieves? Are you serious? I can stay in team fights and 1v1 on rev, i can’t do it on thief.
Thief
we decided that throwing auto attack damage in the mix will solve this. Our vision is your role shouldn’t be able to contribute to anything other than finishing half dead enemies or +1 fights
Unfortunatelu this is how it should be…otherwise you have to nerf their mobility.
revs, druids, mesmers, eles say hi
Rev cannot use his mobility to escape away from the fight at will.
wat? since when?
Since always unless you trying to imply that phase traversal is ground targeted in which case /facepalm.
you can use all 3 shiro utility spells to get away if you use it properly
yeah you may not be able to teleport on top of clocktower roof but on other hand you have UA with endless following range
besides thieves don’t get away for free, it either costs ini or CDs and are not always available~
Oh yeah..i completely forgot that riposting shadows cost next to 0 energy and that we swap to new legend with 100% energy. Keep acting like revs has everything for free and always available. Not. And riposting shadows wont let me get away from mobile class btw. the only way i can escape from fight is when i am not focused.
putting words in my mouth for the sake of argument is pathetic
i never said rev has everything for free, i play rev myself
trust me thief just get killed as fast if they get focused (if not faster due to lack of survival)
you shouldn’t be getting away from mobile class anyway
as thief, if other thief is chasing me i probably won’t get away either so that argument is kind of moot
now if i was trying to get away from something eless mobile (see necro, engi, guard) rev is as good at it just like a thief really…
The change to long queue times went out last night, so this is the result of that. The search range is clearly expanding too much, so we’ll reconfigure it to be a tighter search again.
Why can’t we merge the eu and na servers so that the player pool is bigger? I know that might result in latency issues but isn’t there a system that estimates player inputs that could reduce that discrepancy?
Oh there would be such huge issue like with guild halls. If you have players from eu and na in your guild and for example NA player in in guild hall, then EU players get insta booted out of instance if they try to enter same guild hall. They would have to change how instances work for it~
I could see the issue in pve but finding players in tyria has never been a pronlem. I was thinking it should be implemented for pvp only.
LoL you really don’t understand do you? PvP match is nothing else but an instance. They would have to change how instances work, even if just for pvp.
The change to long queue times went out last night, so this is the result of that. The search range is clearly expanding too much, so we’ll reconfigure it to be a tighter search again.
Why can’t we merge the eu and na servers so that the player pool is bigger? I know that might result in latency issues but isn’t there a system that estimates player inputs that could reduce that discrepancy?
Oh there would be such huge issue like with guild halls. If you have players from eu and na in your guild and for example NA player in in guild hall, then EU players get insta booted out of instance if they try to enter same guild hall. They would have to change how instances work for it~
Fix asap. Its unplayable. You made it worse for everyone.
Actually it’s probably worse for everyone except the legend players. I’ve been solo queueing and i have a pretty amazing win ratio right now. im 15-2 and the 2 losses were due to disconnects.
doubt it
i think only ambers and diamond/legendary are affected since they have long qs
True Shot. (longbow) CD increased to 6s. Increased oportunity cost. You don’t even need to stow weapon to bait dodges with a 4s CD, too rewarding of a skill.
I would agree even to 8s CD, if they reduce the cast time to at least 3/4 sec. It’s way too dodgeable/blockable/reflectable, you know.
then it should have better tell – most of the time i can’t even see it at all in all the shiny aoe crap (especially from dh traps)
dude, dragonhunter completely stops for a second and goes down on his knee, what more of a tell do you need? I mean, one of the few reasons to cease movement in the whole guild wars 2 pvp is to cast a “True Shot”
it is all fine in 1v1 situation, except pvp is about team play and it is not THAT easy to see what he does in the aoe spam… i am not even going to mention trapper rune~
you want cast time reduction which would leave target even less time to see and react to spell
Thief
we decided that throwing auto attack damage in the mix will solve this. Our vision is your role shouldn’t be able to contribute to anything other than finishing half dead enemies or +1 fights
Unfortunatelu this is how it should be…otherwise you have to nerf their mobility.
revs, druids, mesmers, eles say hi
Rev cannot use his mobility to escape away from the fight at will.
wat? since when?
Since always unless you trying to imply that phase traversal is ground targeted in which case /facepalm.
you can use all 3 shiro utility spells to get away if you use it properly
yeah you may not be able to teleport on top of clocktower roof but on other hand you have UA with endless following range
besides thieves don’t get away for free, it either costs ini or CDs and are not always available~
True Shot. (longbow) CD increased to 6s. Increased oportunity cost. You don’t even need to stow weapon to bait dodges with a 4s CD, too rewarding of a skill.
I would agree even to 8s CD, if they reduce the cast time to at least 3/4 sec. It’s way too dodgeable/blockable/reflectable, you know.
then it should have better tell – most of the time i can’t even see it at all in all the shiny aoe crap (especially from dh traps)
Thief
we decided that throwing auto attack damage in the mix will solve this. Our vision is your role shouldn’t be able to contribute to anything other than finishing half dead enemies or +1 fights
Unfortunatelu this is how it should be…otherwise you have to nerf their mobility.
revs, druids, mesmers, eles say hi
Rev cannot use his mobility to escape away from the fight at will.
Thief
we decided that throwing auto attack damage in the mix will solve this. Our vision is your role shouldn’t be able to contribute to anything other than finishing half dead enemies or +1 fights
Unfortunatelu this is how it should be…otherwise you have to nerf their mobility.
I noticed over course of past months that every time there is new patch comming i get insane lag (up to 3k ms) in pvp maps which is very easily traced to anet servers (see screenshot). If you going to release patch like this at least disable ranked for the time being so people don’t get sudden surprise lag spikes in matches (League does it a lot). Or at least make an in-game warning that lag spike are possible on certain dates.
P.S. those red lines at bottom chart are 100% packet los.
Thief: we don’t play thief and we don’t know how to balance them so we just throw some buffs at AA and acro that we nerfed to the ground so we could sell daredevil trait. We will make sure that engis remain being better thieves than thieves though.
second time i get such a matchup , first time i lost 500-20 and now i won 500-100, the only diference is that in the first matchup i also had one amber guy in my team , this time i was the only scrub in the team
so do i have some kind of sick mmr or whats going on here
… in Machor’s Leap that continously kill NPCs and don’t let events at Lyssa temple fail (but you need to fail events for HOPE IV collection) despite all the attempts of pursuating them not to do so. In some cases you also get group ganked by said players in map chat. Great community! Thank you devs for giving players more opportunities to grief other players!
The auto attacks need to not require a target to use otherwise any form of stealth class will shut it down very easily, especially if they keep the majority of the AoE as it is. Long and visible wind up which you’d have to be blind not to be able to walk out of.
Then air needs to stop being channeled because it follows you in stealth very well.
Thats why i explicitly said when i played, it was 1:30 p.m. This was not at a godforsaken hour.
That is strange. I haven’t done much pvp if any at all until xmas (due to thief being in rather not fun place atm, bugs etc.), then i started to queue for ranked and went through amber-emerald-saphire quite fast. I don’t recall having long queue time nor absurd matches like this. Obviously there were some amber shoppers but not like this lol.
I think gw2 could be esport but if they didn’t neglect pvp so badly after launch where probably majority of pvpers quit. Then we just had fail experiment after fail on pvp system. I am not even going to start on terrible class balance right now. All that extra AOE spam and passives added with HoT made issue so much worse. I played this game for years and even i can’t tell most of the time wth is going on on stream due to visual clutter.
You need playerbase for esports, idk why they don’t understand it.
