Guild Wars 2

BurrTheKing.8571:

Daecollo, you can make good points, but the way you present your views give the impression of whining. Now, some people will take any sort of negative viewpoint as whining but yours practically scream it. Perhaps you should consider phrasing your view in a way that doesn’t come off as vicious sarcasm.

That said, I’m sure some of my old posts looked like this but I’m always trying to better state my point of view.

Sorry if it looks like whining. :< I am just tired of all the stuff. Someone really needs to take a look at all the classes and balance them and give us all new builds and fix the unused/broken stuff.

It feels like our class is “forced” into taking atleast 15-20-30 points into discipline and compared to other classes, our classes “special stat.” is more worthless then a STACK of Might, atleast a stack of might helps all attacks!

The only other class forced into this role is Elementalist, however the thing is there tree actually gives something SIGNIFICANT, and there grandmaster trait is a lot better then 3% damage per non aegis boon.

They’re Attunements are 60% faster! That is amazing!

Now compare the two… what can make our special as good as 60% faster attunement recharge?

How about this?
50% of Critical hits are glancing blows (50% damage) (1.67% per trait.)
Lowers Critical Damage done to the Warrior by 30% (1% per trait.)
-1% Condition Duration per trait spent. (1% per trait.)
0.5% Damage Reduction from all sources per point spent. (0.5% per trait.)
Warriors are bragged to have the strongest body, yet we have the weakest.
(I mean that all separated, not together.)

evilapprentice.6379:

Not an awful idea – could be used to add some skill and unpredictability to thief, and in addition fix some under performing skills. The below suggestions are just off the top of my head, so forgive me if they’re poor/op/whatevs.

PW – 2 init – Perform the stun swing from the current PW Skill. If it connects, for 3-5s you can use a secondary skill “Thrash” – 1 Init, isn’t consumed on use (IE, you can keep hitting thrash for the duration), does something interesting (More damage, some condition per hit, I don’t know)

Shadow shot – just split up the teleport and the damaging swing

Shadow stab – P/D needs some help before we discuss this.

Unload – 3 init on activation – takes 3 quick shots at your opponent, each shot that hits puts a “Hit” debuff on them for 5s. Chains to overloaded shot – 3 init, .5s cast time (or something like that) does X damage plus a bonus for each stack of the “Hit” Debuff.

Death Blossom – Honestly no good ideas here – evade leap to target for 3 init -> chains to dagger spin, spins around hitting all targets in X radius for 3 bleeds, 3 init?

AMAZING IDEAS.

How about also extending its range to 1,200 and making it pierce?

1,200 Range.
Piercing.
Does Damage.
More Mobility.
Less Initiative.

Make Unload some kind of dual skill like flanking strike that has a second attack that does 5% more damage per boon the target has.

Leo G.4501:

Daecollo.9578:

Leo G.4501:

Daecollo.9578:

I see spikes of green numbers, and they are the life-steal foods amount.
I had a lot of fun when I could keep myself up too.

You’re imagining things.

I see what could be lifesteal heal as well, but it’s not spikes. Heck, if you even pay attention to the damage, he doesn’t critical hit very often likely meaning his critical rate is low (like 35%).

That is why its not as fast as most builds.

My build would of fully healed just from spiking shield blocks because of 100% critical chance.

Not arguing that.

I’m just saying that the character in that video isn’t surviving because of pie. They are surviving because:
-They have 31k HP with constant regen.
-Healing Shouts added to constant regen.
-Defensive gear and weapons.
-Likely facing inexperienced downscaled players with moderate damage output.

There could be other factors, but I’ve used pie before too. I know what it looks like and that isn’t it. Also, can’t say if this build will be as effective mainly due to the experience and effectiveness shift over time.

They are also grouped with other classes, Elementalist spamming water combo fields curing her conditions and guardians healing her as well.

Its a good video, but there are so many factors, how about you watch this instead. Its not even dated.

It basicly does what that build does, except 100x better and without help or “cheating” food.

Love the changes to flanking strike! Making our skills have combo’s and secondary effect will go a long way to improve the thief, I feel we are too reliant on spamming ‘1’ button for everything.

Leo G.4501:

Daecollo.9578:

I see spikes of green numbers, and they are the life-steal foods amount.
I had a lot of fun when I could keep myself up too.

You’re imagining things.

I see what could be lifesteal heal as well, but it’s not spikes. Heck, if you even pay attention to the damage, he doesn’t critical hit very often likely meaning his critical rate is low (like 35%).

That is why its not as fast as most builds.

My build would of fully healed just from spiking shield blocks because of 100% critical chance.

I see spikes of green numbers, and they are the life-steal foods amount.
I had a lot of fun when I could keep myself up too.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Crossfire
Actual activation time is 0.54 seconds. | Listed as 0.5

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Trick_Shot
Actual activation time is 0.95 seconds. | Listed as 0.25

Looks like crossfire needs “brought in line”, if it is 0.54 seconds basing it off crossfire, it should be 2.16 seconds!

I suggest leveling a Guardian, warrior has only two playstyles:

- Buffbot
- DPS

Artaz.3819:

Liewec.2896:

Olba.5376:

You want a passive 6% damage boost per boon?

Great, that’ll make all Guardians popping Save Yourselves take 111% extra damage!

FYI 6×7=42

Guardian still has Protection Boon so damage would be quite less AFTER Aegis blocked the first attack and removed another 3% damage increase. So the Guardian would take about the same as a normal strike of damage except still have all the Boons to mitigate (Regen, Vigor, etc.) and have spike offensive (Fury, Might, Retaliation) output.

Anecdotal, after running a 30-point Discipline build for a night there is definitely something still left to be desired. It does help (in WvW) but at rather large cost elsewhere (the main issue is the 25-point Discipline trait is rather weak). I’ll keep trying different variants of the build over the next week…but after last night, I am skeptical if it’ll be used heavily. Having it baseline Brawn would in essence fit better and the mechanic would help the majority of Warriors to at least half of what it’s current form is. [Empowered a 10-point Tactics trait (and something you personally Boon control) is definately feeling far more valuable overall.]

I like how its 3% per boon, but if the target has aegis, it doesn’t matter.

I’m doing regular dailys now, 20 captures? 20 kills? You know everyone bunkers right?

Bugged ranged weapons = Me + :M

After reading all i’m reading. An extra 30 trait points would be fine for warrior!

Why is this in suggestions? Its not a suggestion. Its a FIX.

CreativeAnarchy.6324:

There is nothing wrong with lemongrass and poultry soup.

Before you people start harping on me using it, I have never used it because it does not fit with my WvW build.

Its way too powerful.

Zenith.7301:

They buffed pet’s survivability? By what, increasing their hp pools to 15k hp? The only pet that got survival increases were drake with doubled hp and bear with more armor — neither of those are used in pvp.

Some pets got a 300-400-700 toughness increase.

Liewec.2896:

i’d love them to buff it, the passive is nowhere near what it should be and the active is the worst heal in the game.

if they want to put their money where their mouth is and give us the “stable bodied warrior” they spoke of, they need to buff it!

Yup, not much else I can say. Signets for warrior still kind of blow.

You guys were saying you were going to improve the other sigils/runes to be on-par with the better ones.

Lowering the ICD on some of them would go a long way to doing this.

Maybe if “all” classes had some way to sustain themselves and not some of them. Also if overall damage was lowered by 50%. Condition damage and duration lowered by 50% as well.

More strategy and epic slower fights.

spconder.2489:

Considering that the previous daily could be done in like, 5 minutes, I don’t see the issue. I still think the dailies are easy to do, personally, and I’m a bunker warrior.

Considering a match lasts 7-13 minutes per match depending on how good…

This change just makes people want to do custom maps/kill trading.

Anyone have pictures of the new fused armor?

If I missed any, please tell me!

With all the nerfs to many things, I think there are several weapons that need fixed.

Pistols:
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Vital_Shot
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Explosive_Shot
Shown delay: 0.5 | Actual delay: 0.97
These delays need fixed, and vital shot should do a little more based on explosive shot. They need a speed increase badly.

Dagger:
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Life_Siphon
(It needs to be double the cast speed and also steal endurance.)

Staff:
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Necrotic_Grasp
(This should be changed to some kind of spectral beam attack that burns the target, much like Arc Lightning, Spatial Surge. Necromancers need a niche cool-spell too.)

Shortbow:
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Trick_Shot
Shown delay: 0.25 | Actual Delay: 0.95
This weapon does horrible damage and needs a huge speed increase, honestly it should have a different animation to so it looks like hes shooting faster.

Scepter:
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Orb_of_Wrath
Shown delay: 0.25 | Actual Delay: 0.8
Honestly, this should be just like trick shot and bounce between targets once it hits them, and it should actually be 0.25 speed, since the things are SO slow. They should have a faster speed, and have a secondary effect such as “Lowers the duration of the target’s current boon by ‘2’ seconds.” this is unique since it doesn’t remove or steal the boon, but simply lowers the time its on its target, this could even remove lower effecting boons. Even an effect such as "Does 3% more damage per boon on the target " while also lowering boons.

Hammer:
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Hammer_Smash
Recovery after blow should be lowered by 0.5 seconds, it seems as slow as the guardian’s one, but does not even have its healing or effects. (so you can start the chain again faster.) It should really have some kind of effect too, like a Combo Field: Blast finisher, vulnerability or cripple and weakness.

Sword:
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Final_Thrust
Recovery after thrust should be lowered by 0.5 seconds or removed entirely. (so you can start the chain again faster, this is meant to be a fast weapon.)
(Could also add a second effect, maybe Evade: ½ s? [Or block.] Sword is meant to be a tanky parry weapon in the hands of a soldier or knight.)

Mace:
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Pulverize
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Faithful_Strike
(Both of these need lowered to ½, Maces need to be a bit more viable and faster, I also think Pulverize should also cripple for 8s or take away the targets endurance.)

Flamethrower Kit:
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Flame_Jet
This should do damage while moving, if you move it always misses.

Preacher.9018:

Shortbow is intended as melee weapon. Didnt you know?

to bad it has the speed of a ranged weapon!

Its useless. Needs a big increase to be on par with other heals, or passive condition removal.

knight.8926:

Can anyone tell me the build in this video pls?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBJ3lUCB5I0

One that used Omnomberry Pies. There block’s reflections criticalled and healed her for a lot. (or him.) His attacks also healed him for a lot.

Bas.7406:

Daecollo.9578:

5 /well known/ good guardians please.

I can only take who will sign up. This is an open event ;p.

tired of: whats better videos when I see the pvpers not traited properly.

Harkan.9017:

Olba.5376:

Daecollo.9578:

Leo G.4501:

Daecollo.9578:

Olba.5376:

Daecollo.9578:

The 0.1% Burst you get per trait point should instead be boon hate.

It should also be buffed to 0.2% per trait point

You want a passive 6% damage boost per boon?

Great, that’ll make all Guardians popping Save Yourselves take 111% extra damage!

and the new mechanic should be something else, like… Heal for 3% per boon, per critical hit.

That would be rather broken.

Hit a Guardian who just popped Save Yourselves and you get an instant 42% heal, all while probably killing him in a matter of seconds.

Except he has aegis, so the first hit will be blocked. Then you can use your invulnerabilities.

You were better off making suggestions for the Defense line. You’re asking to have cake and to eat it too.

Uhh, so your angry the tree will actually /do something?/

Oh come on, the Discipline line has plenty of good traits.

Discipline tree does have good traits, however the bonus .1% Burst damage per point it provides is extremely underwhelming …

0.1% – 3% is less then a stack of might.

5 /well known/ good guardians please.

Warriors are fine: links a video from beta

Guess what, grenades at me and in 7 seconds my warrior was ALSO downed.

AlBundy.7851:

Holy crap did this guy just seriously link a beta video? That first vid I’m 100% sure was from back in the betas when weapon swap sigils didn’t have internal cooldowns right?

Yes, yes he did.

Leo G.4501:

Daecollo.9578:

Olba.5376:

Daecollo.9578:

The 0.1% Burst you get per trait point should instead be boon hate.

It should also be buffed to 0.2% per trait point

You want a passive 6% damage boost per boon?

Great, that’ll make all Guardians popping Save Yourselves take 111% extra damage!

and the new mechanic should be something else, like… Heal for 3% per boon, per critical hit.

That would be rather broken.

Hit a Guardian who just popped Save Yourselves and you get an instant 42% heal, all while probably killing him in a matter of seconds.

Except he has aegis, so the first hit will be blocked. Then you can use your invulnerabilities.

You were better off making suggestions for the Defense line. You’re asking to have cake and to eat it too.

Uhh, so your angry the tree will actually /do something?/

^
Yes
15char…

Infact all it does is force us into ‘30’ point trees. It feels like there are separate developers doing skills, the ‘boon hate’ thieves received is quite brilliant, it does not take any grandmaster traits.

Also the 3% burst is a complete joke, the entire discipline tree has pretty much things the warrior should just already have from the start, that is why having it give an extra 30 points makes sense and also makes it not make sense.

The idea is kind of like “Fighters.” from DnD/Pathfinder, where there skills are so underwhelming (no magic/reminds me of this game!) that they get extra “Traits.” to compensate.

dinorawr.9851:

I normally do not post on the forums, but I felt the need to login to address the OP. You seriously have made countless posts complaining about the warrior class. I think it’s time you rethink your class choice if you think this class is so useless. Stop discouraging people from playing the profession they enjoy. Some of us actually like the challenge of playing as a warrior in the PvP aspect of the game.

More then 50 pages worth. :>

Forzani.2584:

Daecollo.9578:

RamataKahn.4283:

Oh look:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/warrior/Parmesan-Stick-s-WvW-Warrior-Build

I don’t see any actual combat in that.

Looks like hes building a build that tries to kill someone before they can kill him, Aka that just proves my point that we have no sustain.

Isn’t that the whole point when fighting someone ?

Some times the point is to hold a point, that is why people want sustain.

RamataKahn.4283:

Oh look:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/warrior/Parmesan-Stick-s-WvW-Warrior-Build

I don’t see any actual combat in that.

Looks like hes building a build that tries to kill someone before they can kill him, Aka that just proves my point that we have no sustain.

RamataKahn.4283:

Daecollo.9578:

RamataKahn.4283:

Daecollo.9578:

stale.9785:

over react much?

Not really, warriors are just a joke when it comes to sustain.

Say what?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QD9KX0NT4o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBJ3lUCB5I0

1.
Lol, facing opponents who are terrible.

2.
Preomnomberry Pie Nerf.

Granted the first 2 or 3 were bad but that’s it.

You really think the pie made all that possible by itself? Of course you do since you’re a bad player.

Yes I do, I actually played it before.

RamataKahn.4283:

RamataKahn.4283:

Daecollo.9578:

Why is ranger’s pet better then the Warrior?

Pros:
- More health.
- Ignores most pathing.
- Double the armor (due to perma-protection.)
- Better boons/buffs. (perma regeneration!)
- More sustain. (more HPS, better buffs.)
- Better temporary abilities. (better invulnerabilities.)
- Easier to use not so animated knockdowns. (self-explanatory.)
- Better condition removal. (All you need to do is switch me out to clear all conditions! Not only that my master can cure them off me!)

Cons:
- Less damage.
- Can’t be controlled by a player.

I’ll kill any ranger’s pet easily. So no they aren’t better then us.

Can a ranger’s bet do this???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QD9KX0NT4o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBJ3lUCB5I0

Yeah didn’t think so.

1. They were fighting bad players.

2. This was pre-omnomberry pie nerf. (When warriors did have sustain.)

Stop trolling my threads.

Can you please lower them again?

RamataKahn.4283:

Daecollo.9578:

Colton Bole.7015:

Stack Runes of Melandru on top of Dogged March for extra hilarity at watching slows and stuns slide right off of you.

To bad we can’t live long enough for it to matter, NO SUSTAIN!!!

Say what?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QD9KX0NT4o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBJ3lUCB5I0

1.
Lol, facing opponents who are terrible.
2.
Preomnomberry Pie Nerf.

RamataKahn.4283:

Daecollo.9578:

stale.9785:

over react much?

Not really, warriors are just a joke when it comes to sustain.

Say what?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QD9KX0NT4o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBJ3lUCB5I0

1.
Lol, facing opponents who are terrible.

2.
Preomnomberry Pie Nerf.

RamataKahn.4283:

Daecollo.9578:

Its just really not worth it having a Warrior in PvP.

- No Sustain. (No way to keep myself up in a fight.)
- No Condition Removal besides what everyone else can get “Items/Stats.” (Yes, this includes SHOUT build, which now rangers can do way better!)
- Underpowered Weapons. (No point in having weapons when they are horrible.)
- Forced to run away. (Yes, Warriors are now the Kings of running away.)
- Toughness is a JOKE. (Toughness needs to do something else, Protection offers more armor then 3000 armor.)

And last but not least…
- Ranger pets are pretty much warriors now in pvp, they have as much armor/more health and do almost as much damage, they are just a bit slower. However, ranger pets are.

- Tankier. (Perma Protection!)
- Have more sustain. (More ways to regenerate health in battle!)
- Have better Condition Removal.
- Have better ohcrapbuttons
- Arn’t even players.

Say what?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QD9KX0NT4o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBJ3lUCB5I0

1.
Lol, facing opponents who are terrible.

2.
Preomnomberry Pie Nerf.

Each point in discipline should offer the warrior a free trait point, this is balanced because all of our traits suck anyways and we have no sustain.

It will be our unique class ability.

I mean, we are already forced 30 points into Discipline just to damage people with boons.

They arn’t the best pets in the game, don’t see why we can’t tame them. They are everywhere too.

Minion of Vey.4398:

Vuh.1328:

Just allow rangers to tame warriors as pet.

But that would be a ranger nerf

EPIC

This food really needs toned down.

Olba.5376:

Daecollo.9578:

The 0.1% Burst you get per trait point should instead be boon hate.

It should also be buffed to 0.2% per trait point

You want a passive 6% damage boost per boon?

Great, that’ll make all Guardians popping Save Yourselves take 111% extra damage!

and the new mechanic should be something else, like… Heal for 3% per boon, per critical hit.

That would be rather broken.

Hit a Guardian who just popped Save Yourselves and you get an instant 42% heal, all while probably killing him in a matter of seconds.

Except he has aegis, so the first hit will be blocked. Then you can use your invulnerabilities.

None.

15char

Vuh.1328:

Just allow rangers to tame warriors as pet.

Well in roleplay, some warrior norns can already be tamed by cute human rangers.