Guild Wars 2

Megaserver for cities is unnecessary. People want this for open world maps which have become ghost towns. We need someplace where it can just be our own server. No, not just WvW.

Damage nerf means that we don’t have to invest as much into toughness anymore. What we take out from toughness we can put back into vitality. So in a way, condi builds have been indirectly nerfed as well.

The fact that you could make money without putting in any effort is the reason why the train needed nerfing.

1)You are not standing on tag…. tsk tsk
2)You have an up level in your party
3)Party members not using food/wrench
4)Despite just attacking a gate, no one in your party has the guard stacks…. something is wrong
4)You don’t own bloodlust… what happened to the famed BG roamers?
5)You are using that god awful selfish signet utility instead of using something more beneficial for your team
6)Renewed Focus instead of the far superior Tome Of Courage
7)Nice FoV
8)“we have 68 people i say we karma train dn flip everything tonight lol”
9)The mini map says “Sunnyhill” for some strange reason

Did I miss anything?

They raised the server caps. The sky isn’t falling.

HT dead?

It amazes me that despite having a search function at your disposal, people insist on creating the same thread over and over.

Anything that discourages people from playing together will never ever make it into the game.

Yea because a thread with less than 20 posts from less than 15 different people representing less than 1% of the people who frequent this forum who themselves represent less than 10% of the people playing this game are totally the majority……

and TC
and JQ
and SoS
and Mag

Dee Jay.2460:

Can’t wait for this farce of a League to end. This matchup against Gandara seriously kittened me off.

Is this what ANet considers competitive? A server that has more than double the WvW population of all the other competitors.

You can’t even roam decently because EVERYWHERE there are dozens of Gandara running around and even if you catch the odd player his savior is just around the corner.

Gunnar duking it out with Drakkar in an epic Siege? Nevermind, here comes Gandara with 4 times the people and rolls over everyone.

What a joke.

You think Anet knew about the mass transfer to Gandara? Even after the move, no one knew how strong they would actually end up being when the league started. No one.

Natronix.9827:

Alright enough flaterring yourself dude, YB and EBay didn’t just make a truce. If it was just that the match would be way more closer and EBay would have zero chances at second place.

Here’s the truth: Since reset, EBay and YB had all their teams focused on SBI. Which is still fine, then as week progresses YB used spies, siege griefers, mesmer portaled zergs into citadel to destroy omegas and even worst manipulated the match uos scores. How? By giving EBay their own BL towers, keeps for free and throwing YB zergs into EBays so EBay could stomp for PPT. This is the scummy moves I was reffering to the other threads, so like I said, dont flatter yourself.

Its no counsidence both of your servers lost a vast amount of players after leagues, karma is a kitten isn’t it

Well, SBI lost just a much. The bandwagon (which you were part of) failed hard.

ManaCraft.5630:

Deli.1302:

What is with so many peoples desire to “rise up” and win everything. What is so bad about being competitive in one tier and if not, being competitive in a lower tier? What is so bad about losing? Do people only have fun when they’re winning?

People have fun when they are playing against evenly matched opponents. It’s not about winning per se, it’s about having a fair shot at winning.

That’s precisely why I said “being competitive in a lower tier”. If you don’t have a fair shot at winning in a particular tier, but you’ll have a fair shot in a lower tier, doesn’t that achieve what people want as well?

Reducing map cap = less fights per map while also having bigger queues

So……… no.

Riverside – Kodash – Baruch Bay is looking pretty awesome this week!

Distaste.4801:

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You mention “winning” an awful lot. Please tell me what server doesn’t win? Every server has their shot at winning. If that means dropping a few tier, then isn’t that a good thing?

What is with so many peoples desire to “rise up” and win everything. What is so bad about being competitive in one tier and if not, being competitive in a lower tier? What is so bad about losing? Do people only have fun when they’re winning?

This tactic isn’t exclusive to T1.

Shonie.5297:

Deli.1302:

Avatar Yirachi.7162:

Make it 4 (VII).

Gratz! Hopefully there will be videos to come

Boonprot.6274:

It’s disgusting what groups like GD, RG, Scnd, VII, VotF, BuLL, etc. can do in open-field with 25-30 people against queues. Absolutely terrifying.

Contrast that to NA where T1 guilds roll 50 deep and pop tags.

Exactly. I still do not understand why guilds like SF feel the need to field 50+. Only logical reason I can come up with is that they get wrecked when they have anything less.

You should watch the video of VcY taking on a vizunah blob with just 15 people!

Zeke Azul Falcon.5176:

did you say Viz will obliterate any T1 NA server? is it still april fools day or what?
we have been in SFR and faced Vizunah many times even open field and all and i can tell you they they are worthy of T1 but not enought to beat SFR or BG, JQ would be equal, SOR prime days would be equal as well, for TC no they would loose to vizunah due to sheer determination of EU and militia.

Of course now Vizunah won’t win. They aren’t #1 anymore and have lost a lot of players/guilds. You were not in EU during season 1 or before that. At any time they chose they could go on full try hard mode and when they did they queued all four maps 24/7. During season 1, they had a blob on all 4 maps at all times of the day. I know BG achieved the same feat but then take into account that Vizunah had universal ts usage on their server and were the best server at siege warfare and very competent at open field as well. BG would have been obliterated.

They had TS AND they got to use siege?
Ya you’re right… all hope is lost for their adversaries

I see someone hasn’t experienced Vizunah Square yet
Its ok, on NA even if you people use ts, they still spread out and run like headless chickens during a fight.

Some servers worked hard to create a thriving community.

Avatar Yirachi.7162:

Make it 4 (VII).

Gratz! Hopefully there will be videos to come

Boonprot.6274:

It’s disgusting what groups like GD, RG, Scnd, VII, VotF, BuLL, etc. can do in open-field with 25-30 people against queues. Absolutely terrifying.

Contrast that to NA where T1 guilds roll 50 deep and pop tags.

Exactly. I still do not understand why guilds like SF feel the need to field 50+. Only logical reason I can come up with is that they get wrecked when they have anything less.

You should watch the video of VcY taking on a vizunah blob with just 15 people!

Zeke Azul Falcon.5176:

did you say Viz will obliterate any T1 NA server? is it still april fools day or what?
we have been in SFR and faced Vizunah many times even open field and all and i can tell you they they are worthy of T1 but not enought to beat SFR or BG, JQ would be equal, SOR prime days would be equal as well, for TC no they would loose to vizunah due to sheer determination of EU and militia.

Of course now Vizunah won’t win. They aren’t #1 anymore and have lost a lot of players/guilds. You were not in EU during season 1 or before that. At any time they chose they could go on full try hard mode and when they did they queued all four maps 24/7. During season 1, they had a blob on all 4 maps at all times of the day. I know BG achieved the same feat but then take into account that Vizunah had universal ts usage on their server and were the best server at siege warfare and very competent at open field as well. BG would have been obliterated.

Facet.5914:

It’s possible that I’m not fully up to date with the latest results, but as far as I knew [EP] only lost to [ST]. If that is accurate then the only conclusion that can be drawn is that the top GvG guild in the game atm is EU. Which is a conclusion that pertains to a single guild, not a group of “top guilds.” If my knowledge of the results is indeed outdated then I apologize, I get all of that information 2nd-hand or later.

I would be interested to hear observations and comparisons from [EP] reps, since they are the only group that has recently faced both regions. Certainly if they felt a pattern that would carry a lot of weight.

EP lost to ST, DISS and iNK. That’s three EU guilds.

Seigfried.5938:

NA servers have better coverage

You are basing this on T1-2 NA versus T4 in EU.
Try playing in T3 or lower in NA then compare it to EU (all tiers). EU has far better coverage overall.

Neptune.2570:

I disagree on a coverage level though, I think NA has a wider variety of coverage times.

T1 and T2 maybe but the rest are dead outside prime time. Most EU servers (T1-5) will have zergs going during ocx/sea.

JQ has been falling in and out of “full” very regularly. Just keep checking.

-Overall population during prime time is the same across most EU servers whereas in NA it varies even during prime time. This means even T4-5 servers can compete with T1-2 servers during prime time.

-EU ratings are much closer and differences in strength between tiers is tiny. In NA each tier is 2-3 times stronger than the tier below it.

-EU has more than just hammer train meta

-Most EU servers have more ocx/sea coverage than most NA servers.

-Average skill level in EU is higher.

-Guilds in EU prioritize quality over quantity unlike so many NA guilds.

-People actually stay on tag in EU during fights

-EU has the best GvG guilds in the game (at least 3 have already beaten the best NA guild)

More story driven content (like Escape from Lion’s Arch)
Less content driven story (everything else)

MakubeC.3026:

Tarkus.4109:

Deal with it, people have complained about this ever since launch and overly self entitled whiners will likely to keep on complaining.

We will never give up because Anet knows this is an issue.
We just need to look for a fair and creative way of fixing it.
Keep fearing the day you will have to fight us in order to get our towers. Your day will come.

There is no solution. Get over it.

Anet makes money from the server transfers so this will never happen. Also, it is quite clear you know nothing about any of the servers you’ve mentioned.

I seem to have stumbled back to 2012.

Furious.2867:

Where is SoR?

Been out of touch with wvw since Dec 2013 and not seeing them on this list is kinda weird.

They’re still here. Renamed to Tarnished Coast.

They did nothing April Fools related last year. I’m guessing the same will happen this year.

Vaugh.7193:

Sesbog.8705:

Epic fail Blactide? Only 4 camp, 5 towers and 0 keeps ^^

And all borders in queue. Our WvW players cant enter WvW and our PvE Achivement hunters just circle the ruins, work as rally bot or wasting supply. The situation is horrible atm! But its a long season, give it a week or two to let them finnish thier stupid achivements. Then we can fight for real!

At least now you know why Blacktide has “very high” server population. That’s a lot of pvers lol……

Chris.3290:

Anyone thinking FA is not going to run away with this needs to consult a doctor and get a CAT scan of the cranium.

I dunno. FA had 24/7 commander coverage in season 1. They now have a gaping hole during ocx and possible eu.

It’s gonna get less viable soon. RIP gate trebs

Go back to pve. Let the pvpers play the way pvp is intended.

BlackPot.4521:

All is so disgusting that piken’s guild let the server fall into Silver league – This is the spirit of competition?

No one let Piken drop to silver. They lost 5+ guilds. They dropped down naturally due to being much weaker.

Reslinal.2359:

Pyroathiest.4168:

Ulion.5476:

Normal reset: http://i.imgur.com/5mUg1uK.jpg
50-100 man queues
WvW Season 2 reset: http://i.imgur.com/BAX8Hi5.jpg
Obsidian sanctum queued and 125-250 queues

Poor guy on BG. Must suck to have queues all the time. Again, only yourself to blame. I’m on FA. We have a 90 person queue into EBG. You chose blackgate, you get to have the consequences.

This guy can’t even tell the guy is from TC from his right open signature before starts his hate on BG, man you really have to wonder about the quality of some of those BG haters…..

Yea that’s not BG. BG had almost an extra 100 for each map.

Shonie.5297:

HoD queue’ing maps in NA prime doesn’t mean much.
Most silver league servers will do that for the first few weeks.
What’s HoD’s OCX/SEA/Euro like compared to their competitors?
And does HoD have the organization/experience in fighting upper tiers guilds and servers? The whole HoD scenario screams trainwreck when leagues end.
I have no doubt HoD should be able to finish in the top 3 in silver with their population… the fun will be watching what happens when seasons end and they’re up against t3 servers full time, maybe even t2 servers.
Although I guess if there’s no repair cost anymore, I guess it won’t be quite as frustrating getting constantly run over by organized servers

Their unlucky that probably the most hated/unwanted guild in NA happened to have transferred to their server.

1-2)HoD/FA – FA losing two of their large guilds is gonna hurt their NA. The multiple 30+ HoD guilds will run them over. They still have the coverage to push for 1st though. It depends how much they want it.
3)IoJ
4)SBI
5)YB
6)CD
7)NSP
8)BP
9)SoR

If they’re making it free, why even have armor durability in the game? Just remove the whole system.

1)Vizunah Square
2)Seafarer’s Rest
3)Jade Sea
4)Riverside
5)Elona Reach
6)Kodash
7)Baruch Bay
8)Desolation
9)Augury Rock

1)Gandara
2)Piken Square
3)Far Shiverpeaks
4)Abaddon’s Mouth
5)Gunnar’s Hold
6)Drakkar Lake
7-9)RoF, FR, AG – can’t tell who’ll be stronger/weaker during the league. AG may have lost guilds but they still have the militia. Who knows.

Whoa boy. Blacktide and Arborstone both rising up! Two former #1 servers

1)Miller’s Sound
2)Dzagonur
3)Arborstone
4)Blacktide
5)Ruins of Surmia
6)Whiteside Ridge
7)Vabbi
8)Fissure Of Woe
9)Underworld

Just because you have one legendary doesn’t mean you’re going to have more than one after the patch. You’ll still only have 1 legendary with changeable stats. The rest will be exotic weapons/stats with a legendary weapon’s skin.

Also, the game is supposed to evolve. Just because the game was one way all this time doesn’t mean it has to stay the same forever. Anet is allowed to make changes and this one will do more good than harm. People who have multiple of the same legendary are a minority.

It’s unfortunate that a T2 server has to drop down to silver league because of silly glicko but there is a silver lining to this.

The last season, there was no EotM and the matchups were predetermined. This time we have EotM and the swiss style means that the strong servers will fight each other regularly. So FA will probably be fighting HoD quite a bit, which should provide more than enough fights for your guilds (HoD queuing 4 maps now apparently).

Did XXI really transfer to Gandara as well?

Ironvos.9014:

Well gandara may be stacked up in primetime, it remains to be seen how well their coverage is. Rolling over FR and millers is hardly a measurement.

Gandara got 2nd place in season 1. Since then they’ve only gotten stronger with no transfers off the server. This time, Desolation won’t be here to keep them in check. So I think their chances are pretty good.

Waveke.8724:

The latest months Wsr became better and better in WvW.

What makes you think this won’t happen again? Once the dust settles, things usually get better.

Quick Mouse.7635:

Thanks so much Allie!
So if I understand this correctly, matchups will not be restricted by leagues?
Eg.
First round TC vs BG vs JQ, SoS DB Mag, FA SBI IOJ,
TC SoS and FA win
next matchup is TC vs SoS vs FA following swiss style?

Dude, look at the way rewards/points are handed out. It’s pretty obvious that you are locked into your league for the full duration. Otherwise it’ll makes no sense to give 1st place rewards to the 7th (for na) place server.

So?

It also reinvigorated multiple low tier servers.

Some win. Some lose.