Guild Wars 2

I’d like to ask; Will Spirit Hammer work with Dulled Senses?

I like a lot of the changes. I still feel Sundering Leap shouldn’t be ground targeted but I guess that’s just me. I also don’t feel Scorched Earth is ever going to be used over Combustive shot with mere change to it’s shape but I’ll wait and see. There may be something weird about the rectangles.

Cygnus.6903:

Right, I guess we are discussing semantics now. Off course it is not needed in every warrior build. In fact, you could decide not to slot any traits at all and you could still play the game.

See what I’m getting at here? You and I have a different perception of the meaning of the word needed, or maybe I am just using the wrong word.

First you say we’re arguing semantics and proceed to not further that point in any meaningful way.

I obviously haven’t fought any good players therefore I haven’t had any need for Fast Hands, right? I disagree. Every thief uses Trickery to get 15 ini but you still don’t see Anet making 15 initiative the standard.

Certain Warrior builds don’t need Fast Hands.

I’m personally done with this conversation now.

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Just like they waited for the Trait Revamp to fix a lot of things that were complained about in the traits, they are probably also waiting for HoT to fix or before fixing any further thing.

HoT is going to be a major balance swing, don’t forget that so easily. Same with the players, most people are just waiting for HoT to land and are training up for the new league system.

Syde.5961:

My first post in this thread:

Are you sure I’ve said anything about it being needed in ALL builds?
I’m saying it’s needed in melee sets, which has been stated multiple times in this thread.

I apologize. You came into the conversation with your own opinion, where other people were arguing one point and I just assumed you were the same guy. But we seem to agree on something so GG!

Syde.5961:

I’m sorry, are you talking about trying to counter a warrior now? Or are you talking about knowing what to run in order to counter a build?

I was just telling you that there’s very little a Warrior can do against condis without Cleansing Ire. And I guess you’re saying I just need to learn to play without it. You’re probably right though, it’s just that I get my face smashed in without it so…..

Syde.5961:

Useful and needed are totally different things. Fast hands is useful in every build. In ranged builds it’s not needed but can be useful to have. Everyone has been saying this however, so if that’s your argument then I don’t know where you’re going with this. As far as the melee build goes; you haven’t posted enough footage or support behind it to prove to anyone that it’s effective enough to be used in a PvP/WvW/PvE scenario.

You’ve been claiming all this time that its NEEDED in all Warrior builds and I’ve been trying to tell you, it isn’t. That’s why we’re still talking right now. But it seems you’ve agreed with me anyway so, I guess should just stop talking now.

Syde.5961:

If you’re failing to put up a fight against a condi build with healing signet, berserker ’s stance, and cleansing ire then you have a l2p problem and not a build problem.

Hahahaha, let me apologize for knowing a counter to everything a Warrior can throw at me. I mean, my gosh, I must be a bad player.

Syde.5961:

You showed a single fight with a double melee set in your video. This doesn’t prove anything about fast hands on melee sets. The rest of your video, you showed a set with a ranged weapon. Fast hands isn’t needed in sets with a ranged weapon; which has been stated multiple times in this thread.

So….. it isn’t necessary in all builds then. Which is what I’ve been saying this whole time. And you’re also wrong about Fast Hands not being needed when using Ranged sets. It’s useful in certain types of ranged builds.

Syde.5961:

Most warriors run healing signet, which has a decent active now. This active gives you resistance, which negates conditions; therefore condi bombs can be negated.

I guess you forgot Necros and Revs can rip boons.

Syde.5961:

There’s no reason for warriors not to have Fast Hands baselined. It’s a skill that ALL PvP & WvW meta builds use (I say meta because they’re builds proven to work, not someone trying to legitimize a theory crafted build). Warriors won’t become OP from it being baseline; and it’ll greatly increase build diversity.

Saying “I don’t see why warriors need fast hands baselined.” or “I can run builds without fast hands.” Isn’t an argument either.

If the reason for using Discipline in all those builds was just because of Fast Hands then you might have a point.

ReaperJr.5967:

Dirame.8521:

ReaperJr.5967:

uhohhotdog.3598:

You realize there are legends other than Mallyx and Glint right? You’re not required to use both of those you know that right?

You realise that other legends do not have adequate condi clear right? And you realise that there are no decent revenant builds without glint right?

And Mallyx somehow has adequate condi clear? Mallyx stands no chance against Necros, especially Necros in their current Cele state.

Mallyx has high resistance uptime and decent condi clear. Till date I haven’t lost a single node against a necro on revenant. I would love to see how you play against a revenant on the meta cele necro build, no sarcasm intended.

I fought a friend of mine. He played condi Rev and I played Condi Necro. He got me a few times when i got complacent but, when I got serious and started chaining CCs whilst transferring conditions and removing boons…. there was just no way.

TheDemonEmperor.6825:

ok, so if u hate it, dont use it. Every build u made, leave it out. Then come back and c how u miss it. Go for it, pve, pvp, wvw. C how bad things are without it. 5sec is huge.

Who said anything about hating fast hands? Fast Hands is awesome and it’s useful in certain specs but what we’re saying is, it isn’t necessary for all specs.

Cygnus.6903:

The link in my description has me doing the same, says nothing about the skill level of my opponent or that of my own.

If there were any moments in there that you could pick out that Fast hands would’ve helped then cool but you haven’t. Now your point is that I have to fight tough enemies in order to need fast hands. Doesn’t that mean I don’t always need Fast Hands? Therefore furthering my point?

Cygnus.6903:

Dodging and using Zerk Stance at the opportune moment saves you from a condi burst. Is Cleansing Ire really so reliable for you that you can cleanse that condi burst with it every time? At this point I refer back to my earlier statement about opponent’s skill level.

I guess you haven’t fought people who just sit and wait for your Zerk Stance to expire and just hit you hard with the condis. No amount of dodging can save you from people being methodical about how and when they burst you with condis. On the other hand, Cleansing Ire is nearly always there and unless some chain stuns you, or directly counters you spec, you’re mostly likely going to get Cleasing Ire off. Whilst in Zerker stance, any build and any one can just wait you out.

Cygnus.6903:

My argument is that Fast Hands provides such an incredibly strong effect for warrior, that running it without it is so much weaker that it becomes unviable. Maybe in the most niche and detailed team setting, one could forgo it, but most of us don’t play MLG Team Wars 2.

Rotations, Sigil effects, hell, even the ability to be able to swap to your other set and use that one skill just in time… Fast Hands is the best trait in the game.

How many on swap effects have less than 8s cooldown really? Rotations? Yes you are “quicker” but not necessarily “better”.
Fast hands is great for certain builds, yes but by no means needed for ALL builds.

You can use it in your Ham/GS build or your Axe/Rifle build or your Mace/GS build but it’s not needed in your LB/Ham build or your LB/Sw-Sh build. You’re just overstating it’s value because you’ve probably only been playing builds that use it.

TheDemonEmperor.6825:

Dirame.8521:

TheDemonEmperor.6825:

Perfect description of warrior > berserker. As it stand.

Opinion, not fact.

Too bad most are on this opinion.

Are u a highly rated warrior pvp ranker btw, i tend to listen to people that are highly skilled and has proven themself.

I’ve also made that point but if you’re not going to listen to Shinryuku then I don’t know if Lypion or Rom can change your mind.

That being said, I’m a very fair person. I don’t BS if I think you’re right. I make builds all the time and I make a lot of bad ones, so I know when something sucks.

TheDemonEmperor.6825:

Perfect description of warrior > berserker. As it stand.

Opinion, not fact.

ReaperJr.5967:

uhohhotdog.3598:

You realize there are legends other than Mallyx and Glint right? You’re not required to use both of those you know that right?

You realise that other legends do not have adequate condi clear right? And you realise that there are no decent revenant builds without glint right?

And Mallyx somehow has adequate condi clear? Mallyx stands no chance against Necros, especially Necros in their current Cele state.

Hammer damage is crazy no doubt about that but so is Mesmer GS and Ranger LB and Warrior Rifle.

Hammer is slow, clunky, doesn’t have enough evades to save it’s kitten or a fast enough CC to prevent focus fire. The evade on Shiro takes a lot of Energy and if you see them pop their Glint heal, just walk away from them for 3s and burst them down right after.
Half they time, when they pop that heal, they die immediately after. Seriously, there has been rarely a point where a Rev popped a Glint heal and managed to survive right after, unless his teammates were around to save him.

I’m not saying Hammer shouldn’t be toned down, everyone can agree that it should, but in general, the Rev is just a flashy profession with a lot of holes that can easily be poked that.

Cygnus.6903:

You say my thought is misplaced, yet provide 0 argument to that statement.

The link I posted shows me playing without fast hands and still turning people into mush.

Cygnus.6903:

Cleansing Ire isn’t needed though. You can slot Last Stand and be fine with cleanse on swap, Signet of Stamina and Zerker Stance. Hell, if you take Arms, adrenaline build up won’t be a problem either.

Signet of Stamina? Which popular build ever used that? And Brawler’s Recovery? When did that ever save anyone from a condi burst? Zerker Stance on the other hand is in almost every build regardless of whether you take Discipline or not.

Your argument should probably be Warrior should have a special mechanic that allows him to swap weapons faster because he is a Weapons Master and it probably fits aesthetically. Good good, great great. Can’t argue with that but the current stance of “Warriors need it to be viable!!” is just so wrong it’s like a broken vase that someone glued together and tried to sell as an antique.

TheDemonEmperor.6825:

Dirame.8521:

Your belief in fast hands is your own folly. It’s great, it’s good but it isn’t needed.

Then please, become the meta and shown us the way.

You wouldn’t listen to me even if I did so I think I’ll just wait for Rom or Lypion or someone in an almost popular competitive team to show you the way.

Your belief in fast hands is your own folly. It’s great, it’s good but it isn’t needed.

Hey guys I’m streaming some weird engie builds again. Come laugh or cry with me as do what no one else does for the next 2 hrs!

http://www.twitch.tv/ceimash

UPDATE: Stream offline.

Cygnus.6903:

The funny thing about his vid is that when he starts playing berserker on his mace/longbow condi spec, every person he fights that has half a clue destroys him.

This illustrates the complete lack of warrior survivability without double Endure Pain.

Not having Fast Hands baseline still destroys warrior versatility.

Your thought that Fast Hands is needed in every build is misplaced. When it comes to Berserker, it is far from needed.

I actually tried to put fast hands into one of my builds but I just felt like the build lacked something crucial, so I went back to whatever it was I was using. And it’s the only build I’ve considered and am still considering whether fast hands is useful in it.

The only trait line that I used in every build was Defense because Cleansing Ire and Rousing Resilience are too good to pass up when it comes to Berserker or even Warrior in general and I would rather consider making Cleansing Ire baseline before Fast hands, just because of that fact.

You can check out some of my gameplay below and a few builds I tested in the description of the video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1FV-QEzxbE

……when Gadgeteer is selected.

On the Engineer Tools trait line we have both Gadgeteer (GM Trait) and Reactive Lenses (Adept Trait).

Selecting both of them stops Reactive lenses from working for whatever reason.

UPDATE: It seems to start working when you die and ressurect.
UPDATE: After further testing it seems this trait only works in arenas and not in the Heart of the Mists

BurrTheKing.8571:

Viable = usable in PvP/WvW/PvE without screwing your allies over. It doesn’t have to be in every tournament, it just shouldn’t lead to groans when you see a Elite Spec in your team. Right now I see no builds on Berserker that does anything worthwhile.

Just because you can’t see it does not mean there isn’t a good build there. And the build you claim is the only good build, is actually not that good because everything concerning burning, (which is supposed to be a big part of the berzerker) is very undertuned and almost negligible.
I was using torch a for a while but then I switched to Sword Sword and Mace Shield and all of sudden the build felt a lot better.

Also tried a shout build as well and the survivability of the class just skyrocketed so I don’t know what you’re talking about when it comes to Berserker lacking sustain.
On top of that, I made a power build that I think works. In team fights, it’s the last thing you want coming up against you because of how much disruption it can cause.

If they listen to our complaints though and improve what truly needs improving, then the class would definitely end up on Reaper levels of crazy.

Video Edition: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1FV-QEzxbE

Hey guys so this weekend I was able to get my hands on the Berzerker and I had a ton of fun headbutting people to death. I made a condi build, a shoutbow build, a power build a condi-shout build (without the bow) and each build worked such that I believe players with more experience with the class could easily make the builds greater than great. I can already see what the Berserker meta will look like and it going to be annoying for all the other classes out there, unless you’re a Necro, in which case, you can eat a skullgrinder!
That said though, the Berzerker is not without it’s issues.

The Skills
I feel Savage leap shouldn’t be ground targeted, unnecessarily bugs down the skill, Wild Blow’s activation is on the slow side, whiffs half the time but hits like a truck when you do land it, Shattering Blow is pretty good love the skill, Outrage is also really nice but I feel the lack of stab sometimes which makes me go back to balanced stance or Dolyak signet. Headbutt is just an amazing skill and shouldn’t be changed in any way.

The Traits
Some of the Traits for the Berserker are pretty good, Savage Instinct, Dead or Alive, Bloody Roar and Eternal Champion are all in the good/great category, the rest of the traits have very little going for them in comparison. Smash Brawler is only really useful in PvE so it’s just okay same with Blood Reaction.
Last Blaze needs to apply at least 2-3 stacks of burn for 2s or 1 stack for 4s because right now, it’s not looking too good with the very low base duration.
Heat the Soul Would be great if the Torch actually seemed like it could pose a threat but it doesn’t. Maybe when combined with Long bow it does but on it’s own? It’s just meh.
King of Fires same problem as Last Blaze, I think it needs to have a higher stack of burns for 2 seconds or 1 stack but a longer base burn duration.

The Weapon
Blaze Breaker, the description calls it a deadly shockwave. I call it a skill I have no reason to use. It’s the same issue that the burning traits have. It doesn’t pose a threat to your target and you don’t feel powerful whilst using it. My question is, What am I supposed to do with a 2s burn that doesn’t even go past 3s when I try to stack burn duration on it? If this skill applied 5stacks of burn for 2 seconds, I’d be totally fine with that but 1 stack of burn for 2 seconds? That’s just pathetic. Increase the burn stacks, increase the cooldown as well if need be, just make it worth using.

Flames of War is pretty good in my opinon, only thing worth using on this weapon. Duration could be upped a bit but, not necessary if all other durations and possible stacks are increased.

Decapitate:
Needs to do the same damage it does to the target you hit, to all targets behind it. I mean really guys! Killshot’s Berserker form, Gun Flame can be used at 5 times the range and does the same damage to all targets! Why is the guy who is risking his backside in Melee worse off in damage than the guy killshotting 5 people for 11k damage from 1200units away?

Gun Flame
Really good skill, don’t change it.

Skull Grinder
Great skill, don’t change it

Rupturing Smash
This particular skill is very weak and doesn’t help the Hammer at all. I know it’s supposed to be a side-grade to Earthshaker but it’s not even good at being a side-grade, it just a downgrade. I think and improvement would be for it to release a shockwave that initially knocks people back and then returns to you pulling enemies in again, allowing the player to set-up other hammer skills. As it is now, I don’t feel the synergy with hammer like Earthshaker does.

Flaming Fury
Increase base burn duration please? 2s would be great.

Scorched Earth
Just doesn’t work at all. Just like Rupturing Smash, it needs another function. One idea would be for Scorched Earth to instead apply 4 stacks of burn for 8s instantly in an AoE. Basically a condition version of Gun Flame but without the direct damage.

Arcing Sear
Burn duration could also be increased on this skill.

And I think that’s it for me and the berzerker! I enjoyed playing the spec and if the above issues are dealt with I think we’d have a very powerful spec on our hands. Thanks for such a fun and addicting spec devs!

And if you guys want to see some gameplay of the Berzerker just click the link above. I do a lot of talking about what I like about the Warrior Elite spec in the video, as well as showing some gameplay for 2 of the specs I played.

Forgot to talk about the burst skills;

Decapitate:
Needs to do the same damage it does to the target you hit, to all targets behind it. I mean really guys! Killshot’s Berserker form, Gun Flame can be used at 5 times the range and does the same damage to all targets! Why is the guy who is risking his backside in Melee worse off in damage than the guy killshotting 5 people for 11k damage from 1200units away?

Gun Flame
Really good skill, don’t change it.

Skull Grinder
Great skill, don’t change it

Rupturing Smash
This particular skill is very weak and doesn’t help the Hammer at all. I know it’s supposed to be a side-grade to Earthshaker but it’s not even good at being a side-grade, it just a downgrade. I think and improvement would be for it to release a shockwave that initially knocks people back and then returns to you pulling enemies in again, allowing the player to set-up other hammer skills. As it is now, I don’t feel the synergy with hammer like Earthshaker does.

Flaming Fury
Increase base burn duration please? 2s would be great.

Scorched Earth
Just doesn’t work at all. Just like Rupturing Smash, it needs another function. One idea would be for Scorched Earth to instead apply 4 stacks of burn for 8s instantly in an AoE. Basically a condition version of Gun Flame but without the direct damage.

Arcing Sear
Burn duration could also be increased on this skill.

Video Edition: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1FV-QEzxbE

Hey guys so this weekend I was able to get my hands on the Berzerker and I had a ton of fun headbutting people to death. I made a condi build, a shoutbow build, a power build a condi-shout build (without the bow) and each build worked such that I believe players with more experience with the class could easily make the builds greater than great. I can already see what the Berserker meta will look like and it going to be annoying for all the other classes out there, unless you’re a Necro, in which case, you can eat a skullgrinder!

That said though, the Berzerker is not without it’s issues.

The Skills
I feel Savage leap shouldn’t be ground targeted, unnecessarily bugs down the skill, Wild Blow’s activation is on the slow side, whiffs half the time but hits like a truck when you do land it, Shattering Blow is pretty good love the skill, Outrage is also really nice but I feel the lack of stab sometimes which makes me go back to balanced stance or Dolyak signet. Headbutt is just an amazing skill and shouldn’t be changed in any way.

The Traits
Some of the Traits for the Berserker are pretty good, Savage Instinct, Dead or Alive, Bloody Roar and Eternal Champion are all in the good/great category, the rest of the traits have very little going for them in comparison. Smash Brawler is only really useful in PvE so it’s just okay same with Blood Reaction.

Last Blaze needs to apply at least 2-3 stacks of burn for 2s or 1 stack for 4s because right now, it’s not looking too good with the very low base duration.
Heat the Soul Would be great if the Torch actually seemed like it could pose a threat but it doesn’t. Maybe when combined with Long bow it does but on it’s own? It’s just meh.
King of Fires same problem as Last Blaze, I think it needs to have a higher stack of burns for 2 seconds or 1 stack but a longer base burn duration.

The Weapon
Blaze Breaker, the description calls it a deadly shockwave. I call it a skill I have no reason to use. It’s the same issue that the burning traits have. It doesn’t pose a threat to your target and you don’t feel powerful whilst using it. My question is, What am I supposed to do with a 2s burn that doesn’t even go past 3s when I try to stack burn duration on it? If this skill applied 5stacks of burn for 2 seconds, I’d be totally fine with that but 1 stack of burn for 2 seconds? That’s just pathetic. Increase the burn stacks, increase the cooldown as well if need be, just make it worth using.

Flames of War is pretty good in my opinon, only thing worth using on this weapon. Duration could be upped a bit but, not necessary if all other durations and possible stacks are increased.

And I think that’s it for me and the berzerker! I enjoyed playing the spec and if the above issues are dealt with I think we’d have a very powerful spec on our hands. Thanks for such a fun and addicting spec devs!

And if you guys want to see some gameplay of the Berzerker just click the link above. I do a lot of talking about what I like about the Warrior Elite spec in the video, as well as showing some gameplay for 2 of the specs I played.

My thoughts on the Rev;

Video Edition: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fL7p_M7vr8k

As well know it’s slowly becoming everyone’s favourite but, in my opinion, that will be short lived if the traits aren’t given more spice.

A lot of the things that make characters like the Mesmer quite appealing is the types of builds that their traits allow them to create. Reality is, the Revenant’s builds are all in the skills and in the ways you use them. The traits enhance or modify each playstyle but never truly create new ones.

If nothing is done about the traits, there’s a good chance we might see other characters that have more influential traits take centre stage. Right now I’m loving the Reaper and Daredevil because of that.

Check out the video above to get some more tidbits on a cool combo I found with the Revenant and other thoughts about the Rev.

Atticus.7194:

Turns out in the current iteration Berserkers can not doing anywhere even remotely close to that burst.

I guess you haven’t tried it yet.

Tien.3865:

Dirame.8521:

Azure.8670:

no disrespect to you, im sure youre good, but this forum is very berserker negative right now

If only you knew what could be done with this gem of a profession.

Enlighten us then, O Chosen One who alone has unearthed the enigmas of the Berserker specialization while the rest of we forum users languish in ignorance.

Maybe it’s just me but I’m loving this spec. It’s not on the level of Reaper but it’s bloody close.

nearlight.3064:

As someone who has been playing carrion glint/mallyx for most of this weekend, I think that mallyx is the best legend in 1v1s, but it isn’t overpowered and shouldn’t be given cooldowns. The “one with nature” cooldownis enough because mallyx skills cost so much that you’re forced to use it after using Pain Absorption to stack resistance, otherwise it won’t have enough energy regeneration to really use the other mallyx skills effectively, especially the elite.

Mallyx’s other main weakness is its lack of any stunbreaker or mobility.

When it comes to 1v1s I’ve found it’s not a one size fits all scenario AT ALL. Sometimes Mallyx is the best choice for a fight, other times, Jalis is the best choice and other other times, Shiro is the best choice. It really varies from fight to fight. One thing is for sure though, I seriously could not beat any D/D Eles.

Video Edition: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fL7p_M7vr8k

Hey guys, this week I decided to share my thoughts on the new and improved Revenant.
As well know it’s slowly becoming everyone’s favourite but, in my opinion, that will be shortlived if the traits aren’t given more spice.

A lot of the things that make characters like the Mesmer quite appealing is the types of builds that their traits allow them to create. Reality is, the Revenant’s builds are all in the skills and in the ways you use them. The traits enhance or modify each playstyle but never truly create new ones.

If nothing is done about the traits, there’s a good chance we might see other characters that have more influential traits take centre stage. Right now I’m loving the Reaper and Daredevil because of that.

Check out the video above to get some more tidbits on a cool combo I found with the Revenant.

COME AT ME!!!!

Azure.8670:

no disrespect to you, im sure youre good, but this forum is very berserker negative right now

If only you knew what could be done with this gem of a profession.

MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!

http://www.youtube.com/user/ceimash/live

Because people complained about Hobosacks. So Anet removed even the good ones.

I just bombard people with condis and watch them cry as they die in their little invuln, “can’t do nothing” state.

This is why we need more condis in the meta guys!!!!!!!!

Did anyone say there was no solo q in the league system? Or are you guys just assuming things because Helseth decided to talk about it?

Goldenrevolver.4371:

Dirame.8521:

Only if we have more than 16 participants

are there even that many necros who regularly read the forums and play pvp?

Yes. You just don’t know them yet.

My thought is that, Thieves can already counter Reapers. Nothing new there.

Lynnie.7213:

These rules are completly off. It narrowed the build variety to the point that some classes will be nearly unplayable.
Necromancers will have to pick Golem as elite….Golem…
No celestial will take one of the best necro builds for Spvp out.

I pass on that. :/

Then you are obviously not a great Necro….. :P

Nirvana.8659:

Was it like this before the July(or June don’t remember) update?

It wasn’t like that before the Trait Revamp. It’s either bugged or that’s how it’s meant to be. Trait isn’t very useful now with Healing turret.

Zalavaaris.5329:

June’s either in the past or way too in the future to remember this lol

Thanks for that.

ESL Funday Monday

On August 31st, we’re summoning all Necromancers from the dark depths of the Underworld to battle each other for the top spot in our Funday Monday cup!
This is the 5th class specific cup so keep your eyes peeled for your favourite class, because we do these quite often or take advantage of the opportunity to really test yourself at the Necromancer!
The top two players of each class will go into our grand final, where they will compete for ultimate victory. Who will prove themselves master?

If you have any ideas that you would like to see in a cup, you can contact us on Twitter, Facebook or the forums!

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Date: August 31st
Time: 2PM EDT // 11AM PDT // 20 CEST
Prizes: 2000 gems first place, 800 gems second place. Only if we have more than 16 participants
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The rules specific to this cup are:
- Banned Amulets: Celestial, Soldier, Crusader, Cavalier, Knight, Settler, Barbarian, Sentinel, Cleric and Magi

- Necromancers are not allowed to have more than 20% life force at start

- No elites over 120 seconds

- No Dwayna runes

- Map: Forest of Niflhel – Beach area

- RO32 and RO16 are Bo1, Quarters and Semi-Finals are Bo3, Grand-Finals are Bo5

If you have any feedback or questions, be sure to leave a comment!
Hope to see you there!

ESL Funday Monday

On August 31st, we’re summoning all Necromancers from the dark depths of the Underworld to battle each other for the top spot in our Funday Monday cup!
This is the 5th class specific cup so keep your eyes peeled for your favourite class, because we do these quite often or take advantage of the opportunity to really test yourself at the Necromancer!
The top two players of each class will go into our grand final, where they will compete for ultimate victory. Who will prove themselves master?

If you have any ideas that you would like to see in a cup, you can contact us on Twitter, Facebook or the forums!

Region: EU
Date: August 31st
Time: 2PM EDT // 11AM PDT // 20 CEST
Prizes: 2000 gems first place, 800 gems second place. Only if we have more than 16 participants
Spots left: 32
Info/Signups

The rules specific to this cup are:
- Banned Amulets: Celestial, Soldier, Crusader, Cavalier, Knight, Settler, Barbarian, Sentinel, Cleric and Magi

- Necromancers are not allowed to have more than 20% life force at start

- No elites over 120 seconds

- No Dwayna runes

- Map: Forest of Niflhel – Beach area

- RO32 and RO16 are Bo1, Quarters and Semi-Finals are Bo3, Grand-Finals are Bo5

If you have any feedback or questions, be sure to leave a comment!
Hope to see you there!

Gameplay of the build in a full match: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUye5YLLm6o

People have said it many times. Alchemical Tinctures only works on thrown or drunk elixirs. They don’t consider Healing Mist a thrown elixir.

Fashion Mage.3712:

I think people think this build is more counterable than it actually is, and underrate it (like many things).

You haven’t fought the right Engies and Necros I guess.

Because Tage plays it.

style.6173:

Random Weird Guy.3528:

Power creep, everything has more dps (both power and condi).

You are mixing up the June update with the Tuesday patch. The OP is asking about what changed yesterday.

@OP: What class do you play?

Was playing Engie, who generally feels survivable even though he shouldn’t be and it felt very different today, then switched to my Necro, who normally feels tanky and same thing.

Did something change with health/toughness calculations? Because even with a good balance of toughness and health, I still feel like I’m being sent to the grave far too often. Way more often than before tuesday’s patch.

I think I’ve been through all the reasons why some of the Dragonhunter traits are bad. If they haven’t seen that feedback then sure, I’ll be happy to go through it again;

- Only traps causing Bleed doesn’t give the Dhunter much synergy with other parts of the Guardian’s kit. We need other ways to cause bleed because the Guardian is pretty bad at condi layers atm.

- The last Trait overhaul consolidated a lot of traits but the Dragonhunter feels like it was created before the overhaul with several traits feeling like they could easily have been merged. Traits like all the traits that effect virtues, Dulled Senses and Heavy Light.

- Our minors don’t synergize with each other AT ALL. Defender’s Dogma and Pure of Sight? No synergy there. Pure of Sight should be merged with Hunter’s Determination and something else should take it’s place in the minor GM slot.