Guild Wars 2

I play 90% PvP every week and Since the patch I have noticed more newcomers being toxic then the guys that have been around. In matches the same. I know this because I pop out and back in to servers and watch that player who is usually below rank 20. I am sure there are some vets that are causing someone grief but listen the experienced player isn’t going to hear from a sub level 20 about how to win! I have spent a few hours this week watching some matches and seen this behavior more then a few times. I have seen guys crying foul at experienced players and calling them names or cheats. Funny thing is some of these players don’t swap weapons and has the default build. All in all I don’t thing the blame here is on the experienced players because I see far less of these types of behaviors from the vets.

AGREED!! I lose just as many matches for AFK then I do poorly ranked matches.

I didn’t see Jebro! He caters a lot of his builds twords the new player.

I do agree backstab is to powerful and I play a thief from time to time. I mainly play a Guardian and with tons of toughness I still get blasted to zero health sometimes by a thief. This move should not be so devastating to a heavy armored class as it is. Not sure if a nerf is the right call but some sort of balance has to be implemented to fix it. Last night in all queues there where so many thief’s running around back stabbing and ignoring points that matches where awful. Not to mention most of the thief’s would all be on one team instead of balanced like it should be.

The one thing I noticed last night is that Anet secretly removed the rank at the end of the match. Maybe this is how they fixed the unbalanced matches that are still happening. SoloQ especially is awful right now. I thought with more players that would bring this secret formula they have for the matchmaking to balance however its worse IMO. Removing the ranks just tells me that someone thinks we the players are stupid and by removing the ranks at the end of a match will make us think everything is fixed. I want the ranks back!

Agreed- didn’t think this would be a big deal at first but last night in SoloQ players on my team stated they forgot to swap weapons and couldn’t after the match started. Then I did the same thing ouch! Need to make it so the complete PvP build includes weapons and make them permeant on the PvP Build.

bhagwad.4281:

But this?

I’m honestly surprised we crossed 100 points. Just a funny screenshot to amuse forum visitors

I have had several matches very similar as of late. I hate it!

Allie Murdock.8152:

I don’t like playing with my tag because it’s a beacon for targeting.

I’ve been in solo arenas, turned my tag on, and become the instant target for coordinated play. I’d play more with my tag on if this wasn’t the case.

I could see this cause I have participated. lol

Nothing better then killing a dev!

I agree tho keep it off.

I hate the idea. I like the solo and teams arenas just the way they are. We just need to have some improvements in the matchmaking. We also need for there to be a significant increase in rewards for a win in these queues so people will care more about winning. We also need for people to stop testing new builds in these matches as well, nothing worse then a person that can’t play worth a dang because they think Solo or team is the place to try out new builds. Try your builds in hotjoin where you belong. If you made it so there was little to no reward for a lose and high reward for a win I think we could fix some of the issues. I would also like to see a cap in joining solo queue at level 30 or something to avoid losing a match because of one poor player. I also like the leader boards but they seems to be broken and need to be tweaked. I also wish there where more stats available on the leader boards and or be able to search for people and see ranks and kills and such. Just my thoughts on the matter.

I really hope the stuff your going to talk about this friday is good. because every week I toon in and every week I hate you guys afterwards ( Not real hate). Cant wait! below are some questions I have maybe you can use them.

1. Are the rewards going to benefit players who just play PvP? No use in giving us mates we won’t use because we don’t PVE.

2. Is there a new game type? Love the new map you showed last week.

3. Is there a plan to remove Skyhammer from Solo and team fights? Either way I want an answer.

Thats it for now.

Justin ODell.9517:

clint.5681:

Why couldn’t you tell us that earlier?

What I mean by that is why wait more than a week after the patch hit to tell us. I can understand not saying anything before the 18th now so you can avoid a influx of last minute pves

We had to wait for wardrobe to be announced so we didn’t spoil the surprise for the people that didn’t already figure it out. I meant to mention two days ago, but was so busy I forgot to necro the thread. Sorry.

Thanks Justin- anything is better then nothing and in this case your answer will do for now. Still a great game and still the best pvp in the game and we all see the new stuff coming out next month and can’t wait. Its even held me back from some pre-orders.

Also thanks for the apology, sometimes we get so worked up here in the forums the we forget how hard it must be on your side. Cant wait to see what else it coming especially to PvP.

Whit.2385:

Drafigo.4690:

Flumek.9043:

Dhuumfire was a hotfix , took 3 weeks and was the best life-saving move for the game. and im a necro

I agree and play necro as well.

Regardless as to why things are not fixed in a timely manner the answer is the same. Poor management. That could be people, time or simply people. These things don’t get fixed because we are viewed as a small portion of this games community and because someone is poorly managing these aspects. I have managed for years and was once a financial manager for one of the largest communications companies and if I had managed this poorly I would have been fired. Because listen if your cell phone isn’t working and your not working on that issue 2 days before the public finds it your months behind the competitor. Right now GW2 isn’t losing because nothing bigger and better is beating them other then that game we shall not mention but there are some big titles coming and the poor mismanagement of things like these simple hot fixes that should be done weekly or bi-weekly will begin to move the population enough to get some attention. I just hope that these changes and builds and so forth are completed before the population of good vetren players are gone for good. Because lets face it. Vetren players will move on and not come back regardless of the update because they have moved on and dedicated their time to something else.

It’s being managed well. It just seems to be managed poorly, because we have the perspective of being primarily pvpers (and a very very small percentage of pvpers at that, so we even differ from most pvpers). I have a long post here explaining why I believe this is being managed properly – albeit with poor outcomes for pvpers, it is being managed properly for GW2 as a game (which is a pve/wvw game – pvp is not a part of the long-term plans, and shouldn’t be for financial reasons).

Yeah same point I was trying to make in my head and again the Dev’s are not the issue they get their marching orders from others above them. This game is still the best one I have played since DAoC and will continue to play it. But yes this side of the game is horribly managed for sure. thanks for sharing!

Flumek.9043:

Dhuumfire was a hotfix , took 3 weeks and was the best life-saving move for the game. and im a necro

I agree and play necro as well.

Regardless as to why things are not fixed in a timely manner the answer is the same. Poor management. That could be people, time or simply people. These things don’t get fixed because we are viewed as a small portion of this games community and because someone is poorly managing these aspects. I have managed for years and was once a financial manager for one of the largest communications companies and if I had managed this poorly I would have been fired. Because listen if your cell phone isn’t working and your not working on that issue 2 days before the public finds it your months behind the competitor. Right now GW2 isn’t losing because nothing bigger and better is beating them other then that game we shall not mention but there are some big titles coming and the poor mismanagement of things like these simple hot fixes that should be done weekly or bi-weekly will begin to move the population enough to get some attention. I just hope that these changes and builds and so forth are completed before the population of good vetren players are gone for good. Because lets face it. Vetren players will move on and not come back regardless of the update because they have moved on and dedicated their time to something else.

Thedenofsin.7340:

EverythingEnds.4261:

Thedenofsin.7340:

PvP is a lot like this now

Yup.
PvP is the trash can and kennys dad is ANet

Solo queue = 10s
Team queue = 13s
Solo queue = 14s
Team queue = 16s
Solo queue = 20s
Team queue = 21s
HotJoin starts around 35s

We should all just become HotJoin Hero’s!
Funny cause I have seen a ton of HotJoin Hero’s in queue lately, I know because a rank 60+ doesn’t really play the bad! lol

Harbinger.8637:

Allie Murdock.8152:

Hey everyone,

We’ll be getting into more detail about upcoming new traits in tomorrow’s Ready Up. Hopefully the show will help you to understand a little more regarding this topic.

Do you plan on talking about all the new grandmaster traits or just the ones mentioned in the blog?

I would bet just the ones in the post because the ready up would be 4 hours long with 40 new traits.

Just my guess.

Allie Murdock.8152:

Saying no rewards anymore is hyperbole. That suggests we are not adding a system to replace the old one, which is not true.

And yes, per Colin’s blog post, we’ve now released that the Feature build will be on April 15!

Allie- I get that you have restrictions on what you can say and what you can’t say. However in all fairness to both sides hints, promises and so forth have been laid out for over a year now. A feature build will be on April 15th doesn’t resolve the current issue at hand. Your telling us that nothing is going to change for 3 1/2 weeks. This answer makes it even worse because like the hundreds of posts on the forums there is no reward for playing pvp. Sure you could say its fun but only a few matches a night because then you get board of the same ole matches over and over again. Removing glory before the feature build was a huge mistake and your community that actually participates in the forums has been telling you that since it was announced. I have seen several replies from you and others stating that the community on the forums is not the majority of players. Well I say to you that we are the ones the participate on your forums, good or bad we are the ones with free feedback to you and we are in most cases the voice for hundreds of guild mates and friends. Both guilds i participate in have been saying horrible things about the game since the last update and the removal of glory and rewards. For you guys to say that the community here is a small sample is a incorrect way of looking at it because in most cases we are the voice for many more. Please know this isn’t a personal attack and sure I will still play GW2 but I play and pay a lot less then I have in previous months. I don’t want this game to fade but it is. I have screen shots of prime time play where there are only 3 people in the mists waiting and two of them commented that they where there to spend the glory they had. Take this feedback as you will but again not a personal attack we don’t know the full story or the behind the doors look into what you guys do everyday. Some of us see nothing in regards of Pvp and not even sure you guys work a full week. Your PvE material is among the best ever its time to stop making mistakes with PVP and step it up!

I would like this change as well and agree with Rickster that I would like to see additional stats as well. Every pvp game I have played shows these stats end of the match. Love it in WAR because you could see where all the damage was coming from and who captured what. Would be good to see not only how good some team mates did but how bad they did so you could give them more direction next time your matched with said player.

I think it works good as intended. Every class has an arch enemy in this game, and even tho the thief is that foe for many classes. Thiefs are easy to counter if you know what your doing. This game is designed to dodge and roll from your enemy and slot those skills you need to defend. That being said I know what your speaking of and I think the new traits coming especially for some of the classes like Mesmer are going to help with some classes being able to cause such issues. Guess we will see.

How about a count down much like the one in Mortal Combat

1

2

3

FIGHT!

I wish leader board would not only show wins and loses which many could care less about but show ranks and who’s where. As a person who deals in stats all day long I would actually love it if the leader boards where broke down so you could see other states like deathblows and stomps and even rank and who’s on top!

Liewec.2896:

a survivor!
we thought you’d all been deleted like the rewards!

You win!

All rewards are gone from solo and team. Oh and Glory is gone as well. Only thing you get is some points that count for your rank only and I believe even it is bugged a bit. NO REWARDS!

I played last night for 3-4 hours in SPvP. Solo queue and Team where both very slow. It did pick up a bit but not like it was before all the goodies went away. I really felt like I was playing for nothing other then the kill, which is great but man I loved the loots! An update soon would be nice for sure!

I saw the same thing last night Malcastus. Depending on the class I always get top states and bonuses and was noticing last night that I was getting the same results as you. Sure seems to be a bug or maybe as intended. Would be sweet to get a response from a Dev!

Thedenofsin.7340:

This patch has made me consider uninstalling this game for the first time.
I’m seriously considering it, not because things haven’t been fixed yet, but because of the removal.

I think it speaks volumes about the company: removing gameplay incentive from their players, for any duration, simply states they don’t care about keeping you engaged.

100% agree

Same thoughts on deleting the game from my PC

Depression has set in!

These issues will only get worse till a HUGE update happens. Many in the mists are talking about the changes and in a negative manner all day long. The Mists are dead maybe 10-20 players during prime time right now when normally there where close to 30-40. No Rewards and no significant updates to bugs among other issues with SPvP are slowing the game down as respects to PvP. I also haven’t seen a Dev play in pvp in over a month where I use to see one ever few days! Sad really

No wonder here! I see this all the time and try real hard to communicate with no response I would say 75% of the time. The new changes and loss of rewards will make this issue even worse. Guess we will see!

Wasn’t this fixed a few patches ago?

And now its back!

^
I Believe it!

Regardless, the changes so far stink! I hope a fix comes soon!

No Explanation needed. Just like the current changes and no rewards! But I have my awesome rank points! That Ill farm in HotJoin!

I agree

DELETE

1. Still playing PvP but only a few hours a night and in HotJoin
2. Running around unlocking maps
3. Gearing up to play WildStar (pre order starts today and beta is this weekend).

Can some of you great bunker Elementalist please share your bunker builds with me please. I have seen some really good and hard to beat Bunker Elementalist and want to know what they are currently using. Thanks for sharing!

Can some of you please share a good bunker build for ranger. A few guild members and myself are putting together a team for SPvP and I want the bunker build I see all the rangers currently using. Thanks for sharing!

Really just makes me sick. Would have been better if they would have done nothing as usual.

style.6173:

99 glory boosters. Be sure to use them all by tomorrow.

Also be sure to increase the 24 hours between now and then.

gg ANET still giving out glory boosters the day before you make them worthless.

Funny! Cause I got about 50 boosters yesterday trying to farm the last of the glory I could.

Justin ODell.9517:

This isn’t circular reasoning.

We’re not saying we are going to do nothing because we said we would do nothing.

We’re saying we won’t change direction (from the previously stated plans) because it would put many players at a disadvantage, and on top of that these players would be hurt because they listened to us.

We seriously considered many different options, and doing nothing seemed the most fair. Do you disagree? Keep in mind, more people used boosters than did not.

This whole thing sucks. I have like 200 of these things and I have been stacking them on each toon over and over again. I have 7 hours plus on 8 different toons and still have like 80 boosters left. Some I have crafted so each toon had a stack. Really sucks that I will get nothing for them. This game is looking less desirable each day to me.

Agreed! This current leader board is junk. What I think the leader board needs is a complete revamp. I mean really I guy in the top ten with 19 Wins and 10 Loses. You shouldn’t even make the leader board till you have hit X amount of games. I would suggest 500 total games, maybe less maybe more. I also think that decay should do something other then drop you down for a bit. Your score decays for a reason and it should be reflected as such. There are guys all over the current leader board that play 1 game ever 3-5 days just to maintain. Absolute junk if you ask me. This leader board should break everything down to a more consistent level. Your rank should not only temporally decay because you are inactive but should require more then a hand full of matches to get back to the top. 70% and in three games #20, Crap that is crap. No wonder there are so many people who could care less about the leader board. Fact is everyone cares about the leader board but when its as bad as this one is no one cares!

I sure hope this thing gets a second look and a revamp.

Everything isn’t Vain GW2 PvP is still better then most!

Last night I killed the knights 5 times and not once did I get a single drop from them. Not much loot on this cycle of events sorta sad.

Did this run several time with 2 different classes with very high damage and didn’t get a single drop off the Knights. Just confirming that I too have the same issues. I saw there was a late patch last night not sure if that corrected the issue this morning or not but I will know again in 5 hours when I off work.

Brutal Arts.6307:

garethh.3518:

Nova Stiker.8396:

Don’t treat us like we are toxic, don’t treat us like we are a massive group. Don’t be afraid to talk to us individually and often. We bite but it’s because we don’t want to let go. Embrace the loving pain XD

I got banned for saying that listening isn’t collaborating and development involves more than brainstorming.

In short.
They really don’t want forum input.
They just want it to look like they want it.
:’(

They just want sycophants. Now buy gems.

All is not vain Play and have fun or take a break! best advise Iv gotten in a long time from a Dev. Everyone just needs to take a chill pill and stop treating the Dev’s like they are all the control for what happens on this game. There are guys and gals above them sending marching orders down. I am sure something is coming because they are ending this current story so some focus can be shifted. Take a break if you need to lets stop beating the Dev’s up over and over again.

All is not vain! Take a break!

So I play this game and I cry about this game

I comment from time to time in the SPvP section of this game every week. Every week I cry and talk trash about ANet and ramble on much like I am doing now. Yesterday I read this post that really opened my eyes from one of the Dev’s. And well after searching for 10 mins for that post to quote word for word I realized that the Dev’s on this game actually respond quite a bit more then I thought. This game is a great game and as you may know the potential was and I believe now is still huge. Sure things are not the way you want them, they are not perfect. But this Dev said yesterday that they don’t want anyone to leave their game BUT if you are unhappy it may just be time for you to take a break. A break means something different to everyone. Maybe you need to play WvW for a month and focus on owning out there instead of just SPvP or maybe you need to play some PvE or maybe you just need to go play something else. The part of this that made me think was I still play this game every night many, many matches every night yet I still wine and cry every day or week on the forums. You don’t play that much unless you are still having fun! And I am still having fun I still enjoy killing the Kitten out of someone and hoping they are crying to their mom that some guys cheats or what ever. All this made me stop and think that I should just relax and have fun till the upgrades come and if they don’t keep having fun. I am not a huge WvW or PvE fan but I have been trying for the last few months to just spend a bit of time playing other game types in GW2 and I still don’t love it but hay it’s a break.

My take on all of this is to have fun first and always provide constructive feedback. I have worked in an industry that communicates a lot by email and over the years I have seen how easy it is to misunderstand the meaning behind words and understand that not ever statement has a hidden meaning. Some of these guys at ANet are young and young business professionals still make mistakes and word things sometimes that can mean something completely different to us the player.

I now know that not everything is vain. The top post should not be one about everything being vain and how your girlfriend broke up with you because your not on the top of the leader board. The top post should be constructive and meaningful. The top post should have solid content and offer fixes and suggestions. The top posts should be the ones where the Dev’s have taken the time to ask for your help.

Again not all is vain in fact I am still having fun and yes I will take my breaks. I will provide feedback in the appropriate ways. I will keep having fun win or lose. I thank the Dev that posted that response because I could tell he is frustrated with the state of PvP as I am and how he wished he could fix it today. I believe he was right about taking a break and how you must still be having fun if you still play every day for hours. I have taken my chill pill till some new stuff comes out, have you?

Time for a break then! You will be back. Still one of the best games out and don’t think TESO is any better. Especially PvP! A dev said it best if your currently not having fun take a break. But as many matches as you have played your still having fun if you want my opinion. No one plays a horrible game over and over again! Have fun or take a break either way you will be back. Some good stuff is coming Im sure of it. I don’t blame ANet for sharing them all and giving time tables because the community beats the dev’s down when they are behind schedule. Im as angry as the rest of you guys but listen that Dev said it best. If your having fun (and you are cause you keep playing every day match after match) then have fun play and take a chill pill till some new stuff comes out or “Take a break”. Really made me stop and think.

I would be happy if some less likable maps popped less often. Skyhammer once ever 10-20 matches instead of 5 in a row.

I have to agree with low population. Thats why it all so important to balance SPvP and attract new players to SPvP. The formula is great and works as intended when population is up. Matchmaking during peak time is usually the best matches.

Here are some questions to get things started but feel free to discuss other relevant ideas as well: (Quick Answers)

What type of structure would you find interesting for leagues and ladders?

• I would like to see Leagues and Ladders divided up into guild teams or teams instead of individuals. I still would like to see individual stats but a way to filter the who from the mess of names would be great. I would like to see more 2v2 3v3 and I like 8v8.

How long should a season last?

• My suggestion would be for the season to last a quarter. (3months) This would allow for 4 seasons each year and allow for leaderboards and such to re-set.

What would motivate you to play in one?

*Balance and rewards accompanied by some new game types. I would also like to see Some of the pve story line to sneak into pvp so it feels like we are all collectively working to save the world. I love the gold rewards currently added. Wish this would have been around since launch.

What types of rewards would you like to see?

*I like bags, chests and stuff. Just like you did during the winter event and currently with Attack of LA with the loot bags. Skins are great too! I want them all!

How would a player earn these rewards?

*Daily participation
*Winning

How would you encourage players of all skill levels to participate?

• this is the tricky question, Needs to be some sort of matchmaking like we currently have but with huge upgrades. I don’t have all the answers here but I can say that young teams shouldn’t have to play the best of the best. Need to find a healthy middle for the new players. Everyone likes a competitive match! Match making needs a change. I don’t have the answers but I know something is broken. Rewards and new game types will dray players and all skill level to play as long as they are ranked accordingly.

Tried to keep it short and simple.

Forsaker.9213:

Justin ODell explain me how we the community can take u serious?

What we got since realese?
-broken leeder?
-broken solo que?
-power creep?
-no skill killing michine wars?
-no skill condi spam necros?
-no skill mm necros?
-no skill stealth mesmers?
-no skill zoo rangers?
-maps that are not even balanced?
-ton of bugs since reales w8 for fix till now?
-and more more more more more….
-broken matchmaking?

How? Tell me how? Company like anet can act like that , ignoring us the community , u dont listen to feedback . I playied a lot of diffrent games and this is 1st game when the crew responsible for balance/designe dont listen to feedback.Tell me how often u visit class forums? We had post from dev on necro forum few months ago , so until u dont start to respect us dont think we the community gonna respect u.

EDIT:
One more thing how can u even let in this game to chain CC? ITs not funny when u are stuned,dazed,feard,knocked,stun,dazed,imob,feard,knocked,dazed,stuned………………………………………………………………………………..

Great point at the end! Most games once you are hit with a type of CC you are immune for a few seconds. Great point!

All are very good questions!

Allie Murdock.8152:

Before you derail my thread, why don’t you wait for me to actually answer the question. Yes, the intent is to have answers on the forums. We will also be talking about them on Ready Up next week.

I doubt they will actually be posted specifically in this thread though. It will likely be a sticky and a bit more formal-looking.

Allie- With this group if your not answering these questions with in mins of the post your asking for trouble. lol