I came up with the idea of beating the lastest record of HC (41 seconds) and we dedicated that one to DS to get the guild some attention. While doing the 39 second kill we found out that skipping phase 3 is possible. So we did another kill skipping phase 3 (28 seconds) and dedicated that one to [SOLO] because 4 of us were in that guild and only 3 in [DS]. I went on vacation then and can’t exactly tell what was happening but i guess they just saw room for improvement and wanted to do better.
Last one has now been done by us (DS) because we saw a lot improvement possible for phase 1. Have been unlucky with RNG though and will improve further later.
That’s just because path 1 and 2 heavily favor warriors with high movement speed. Path 3 is more about having good dps and not loosing time on aggroing mobs.
The GS literally offers NOTHING. Anyone who uses it in Dungeons or even assumes it’s a good choice for efficiently clearing dungeons is a bad player.
Fixed it. You can play how you want of course and aren’t a bad player. But in terms of not beeing a leech to your party you are.
How the KITTEN can someone assume Mesmer GS’s DPS as “good”? Low coefficient autoattack with slow casting speed. Low damage, slow cast #2 providing 3 short duration might stacks which actually might be contraproductive overwriting ones with longer duration. Low damage #3, stripping boons off of targets is either impossible or useless. Except iMage the worst phantasm the mesmer have. Not only that it deals crap damage, it also moves (which is not good as you might know as dungeon player). Knockback on #5. Focus Pull is better in every situation. If you use GS #5 in a fight you simply make your whole party mad.
The GS literally offers NOTHING. Anyone who uses it in Dungeons or even assumes it’s a good choice is a bad player.
Wardens sit in one spot and spin unless a mob LoS’s them. They don’t move around and won’t really do anything if a mob or boss moves around. Duelist and Swordsman will attack a target that has moved into a different position, so that’s why I used Sword and Pistol. I also use those at Lupicus too since Warden is dead weight there.
I can tell you that is a very bad idea.
Sword #3 doesn’t immediately cancel the autoattack chain. Does dagger #4?
And yeah, biggest problem are going to be locusts. If it’s only one or two spawning i don’t see big problems killing them and outheal (ranger heal is really really strong plus gaining protection from dodges is quite nice) but if it’s 3 or even 4 i honestly don’t know how to get rid of them before new one’s spawn.
I’d volunteer since i just had the crazy idea of doing a full lupicus solo with ranger sword as mainhand. Phase 2 and 3 aren’t much of a problem but phase 1…
From what i can tell necro’s single target dps isn’t really bad. Seems to be a bit stronger than ranger’s dps with a bear as pet. It doesn’t provide any group buffs though and completely leeches of the team, a thief for example who also relies on team buffs at least deals noticable more damage and at least provides stealth, blind field, stuns and has a good movement speed for different situations. Necros can blind enemies or stack vuln but nothing that can’t be done better by other professions. Conclusion: necro’s aren’t worth taking them, just as rangers aren’t for Arah or Mesmers aren’t for AC. The difference is that i don’t know any dungeon where choosing a necro would be a good choice.
I would put a legendary GS on a Guardian, rather than a Mesmer. Mostly because I believe that Mesmer GS is underwhelming, however Guardian skills also do a better job of showing off the weapon via animations. For both dungeons and open-world PvE, GS on Guardian is top-tier, while GS on Mesmer doesn’t really do a whole lot relative to other Mesmer weapons. WvW is similar, GS on Guardian is very strong where as GS on Mesmer is… well, I guess it’s ok there.
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ahhh you hurt me sooo much xD GS mesmer is not lacking, its crucial to my build, im not in anyway showing off here so please no attacks people xD but i can take several people on at the same time and the GS is what lets me do it, (with s/f) Zerk ftw. please dont make bold statements when almost every class can be good it just takes skill to exploit there strengths
You can build around a weapon to bring out it’s strength(s), but that doesn’t necessarily make it better than another option. I was also referring to PvE, not so much WvW because I don’t really skirmish in WvW anymore. The reality is, in dungeons where melee and DPS is king, GS on Mesmer is lackluster, where as it is very good on a Guardian.
yep even in pve, if you were to try lupi solo you’d need GS and s/f with reflect, the GS for speed is crucial for the dps, you could replace with sceptre and pistol but it wouldnt be as fast
but yeah i 100% spec fully for WvW its my endgame
GS for Lupicus Solo is just plain bad. Not that only GS sucks in PvE, for Lupicus Solo it’s about the worst choice you can make. It literally brings nothing but a phantasm that tries to get you killed while offering extremely low damage. You’d even better be using Staff here without Phase Retreat.
Arah P4 is even doable with 2 players. Simin really sucks, though.
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You’re right, we should play worse party compositions because that’s all the game is about.
I wouldn’t call running around with two guardians effective. But i guess that comes down to personal experience.
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Ruined it
People are sheep. P3 is probably the hardest and longest Arah path, people just don’t realize it because they never do the others.
No, I only mess around with spreadsheets. I thought you guys knew that. My calculations say that Arah P3 is easiest though.
Doesn’t this tell enough?
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Welcome back man.
We will do better and release then, even though this is currently the fastest lupicus kill. All about bad RNG and haviz having a funny 3-4 second lag.
I’ve had a 2:45 phase 3 start (would have ended up as about 6:00) after the heightened focus/berserker’s power fix.
Was with 30/25/0/0/15, GS+Axe/Sword. 100 Prec / 10% Critdmg as food.
Cause the gains aren’t marginal if used to it’s full potential.
Waiting to see it at the full potential then. With baited breath. Don’t disappoint.
At least you don’t have to wait too long.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZQfhOMuOP4&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Has only been two ele’s. Would have instantly brought him to phase 3 if we used three.
Cause the gains aren’t marginal if used to it’s full potential.
Can someone tell me a good berserker build for a necromancer?
Elementalists have the highest damage output in the game by pretty far, including their burst abilitys. I’m not sure who made claims about eles doing less damage than rangers or whatever else.
Didn’t we already know that before? No profession is “throw it in the dumpster” in an organized group. Some are better than others but unless going for a record run it doesn’t matter much.
about the same, not exactly the same. If going for a speedkill your team composition would change much anyway.
The actual damage difference between 25/0/25/20/0 and 25/25/0/20/0 (i assume they were using the first) isn’t huge too. What i’m saying is that the engineer can be replaced without changing the result much, not that engineers are bad.
scepter for whenever you’re required to range (as in required, not you can’t be bothered to dodge).
I can only imagine one situation in the game where you would want to have a ranged weapon.
Imagine using a necro that maintains 25 vuln and does zero damage. The overall killing time difference would be less than 3 seconds. And i said about the same, not exactly the same. If going for a speedkill your team composition would change much anyway.
You could replace that engi with a thief, mesmer, necro, ranger, warrior, guardian or ele and get about the same result. I’m not saying engis provide terrible dps (mesmers do) but there’s still absolutely no reason to pick one. Just as there often is no reason to take a ranger.
People are sheep. P3 is probably the hardest and longest Arah path, people just don’t realize it because they never do the others.
Have you ever done arah p4, or even Arah?
No, I only mess around with spreadsheets. I thought you guys knew that. My calculations say that Arah P3 is easiest though.
I believe you.
AC Path 1, AC Path 3, CM 3, TA F/U, SE 1+3, HotW 1, Arah 2+3.
Plenty others aswell, basically any dungeon without events requiring multiple players.
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If we try really really hard and get leechers quick we do about 70g/hour.
Technically, I’d make more money than all of those people if I was guaranteed to get 4 leechers every time I ran P4 :P
I’m pretty sure we’d even make more money if we were guaranteed to get 2 leechers. We even make more money now…
And Arah P1 is stupidly easy, stop being bad.
While i agree with you that these complaints have to stop, calling Arah P1 the easiest path of the game makes me suspicious.
I’d really like to see you faceroll through Arah in a reasonable time, without any going low on health, slowing the party down or even wiping. I will pm you ingame if you are up to doing a run with me.
It won’t become flooded with people selling spots because the only people that sell spots are those skilled enough to solo / duo it. I’ve had no competition so far
You are skilled enough?
Yes, and I use keybinds too
That’s the reason why i have problems believing!
I have yet to see your quaggan lupicus solo.
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Edit: What necro mechanic zogyark used has been nerfed?
The death shroud damage overflow and minimum traited death shroud recharge time (traited used to be 5 seconds, now 7). Checking his video again he didn’t use the former as much as I expected, so I’d expect he could still do it (I used to use the overflow all the time for Lupicus, but I’m not as good a player as Orochi).
DS recharge could be 10 seconds and it wouldn’t matter. What is that DS damage overflow, though?
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It won’t become flooded with people selling spots because the only people that sell spots are those skilled enough to solo / duo it. I’ve had no competition so far
You are skilled enough? 
Those that you can reflect (under him, where feedback pops up) show up after they hit.
I think i’ll pass mine soon. Nice idea but mostlikely wasn’t the intention of the number. It was just to seperate different people with the same name.
I think if you’re good, you can solo p2 in 1 hour.
and I’ve pugged arah more than 60 times now and was never kicked from a group just so they can sell my spot
Yeah the problem is that all those sellers exploit every boss and skip lupicus.
I even doubt they could kill abomination legit way. When i joined one once he was even safespotting brie. The day lupicus becomes unskippable and you can’t safespot bosses anymore will be the death for all but one arah seller.
/ingame bug report about skipping lupicus, everyone please.
No, I don’t play a Mesmer at all.
The characters in my signature are just there for ****s and giggles.
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Then you “might” know that mesmer shielding and guardian shielding is totally different? Mesmer shield is 360 degree, while guardian shield is only in front of him and nothing else. Even combo field is different. The only aspect where the wall surpasses reflection of Mesmer is just in the duration and nothing else. If you really want to surpass it, you have to invest trait points.
And after that, you also may know that there are different ways to deal damage with mesmer than just relying on phantasms and that a good mix of phantasms, shatter and conditions is much better than just playing onesided?
You are wrong. First off, a mesmers feedback has zero advantage over a wall of reflection (in terms of reflecting things). Also, guardians should always be able to bring 20% Consecration recharge and longer duration trait since every guardian build (i consider as not stupid) has at least 10 points in last tree. Mesmers Temporal Curtain doesn’t work like WoR by the way, the reflection field is much smaller and you can still get your chest/head shooted. Aswell as it doesn’t cover your character from all sides.
And last but not least: Mesmer has terrible DPS. If we bring a mesmer to our team, it’s to make things easier. Or for timewarp if our goal was achieving a quick bosskill. If we are going really fast, i.e. speedrunning (gwscr.com meaning) we bring none. And even if we would bring one, his dps still stay worst out of all professions.
I surely did all those lupicus solos for the silver he drops.
Edit: What necro mechanic zogyark used has been nerfed?