Guild Wars 2

thefantasticg.3984:

Durzlla.6295:

thefantasticg.3984:

Thats what I keep on saying is that take a skilled player and give them another class like mesmer, warrior, or gaurdian and they will be better there than on a ranger because they are not handicapped by their respective class mechanics.

I gotta say ele is probably the best place to put a good player, the skill ceiling on that prof is gigantic!

I recently rolled an Ele and an Engi. Ele is lvl 45 and I don’t understand how having attunements doesn’t scare away new players because of all the options vs. having more control over our pets scares away new players (as a certain Dev in a STOG put it).

Imo, attunements just translates into you juggling 4 weapons, where as a ranger you need to essentially play, and be aware of, 2 bodies on the battle field at the same time, if you also had to command all of the abilities but the auto attack on both those bodies that’d be really intimidating to new players.

As is ranger is fairly difficult with the whole keeping the pet up thing, granted it’s doable I’ve gotten to the point where the only time my pet dies in instance is either 1) I’m not paying attention or 2) I sacrificed him for the groups sake. So that’s probably why they’re afraid of it because as an ele once you get down the attunements you can play the prof pretty easily, once you break away from a “rotation” and start throwing out combos as you need them is really when the sky becomes the limit.

Just my 2 cents though.

gawker.8340:

The on fall makes sense in WvW. I use the on fall trait sometimes.

The on revive and on death traits are ridiculous.
Ex.
Ranger’s wilderness survival line
Healer’s celerity: grant swiftness(15s) to you and your ally when reviving someone.

The guy laying on his back surely doesn’t care if he’s got swiftness. And I, the ranger, rooted in place to revive my friend finds that getting swiftness is making a huge difference.

Uh…. You’re kidding me right?

It increases your Rez speed by 10%, which also stacks with mercy runes making it a total of 20% Rez speed, the swiftness allows them to either 1) get back into the fight or 2) get out of danger quicker, and it allows you to either 1) get back into the fight or 2) get to the next downed person to Rez them faster…

It’s a great trait as is…

@OP: a lot of the On Downed traits are really good, remember that downed =/= dead and the 2 I know of (necro and ranger) help to get you up faster.

The necro on downed trait fears everyone nearby, which is AMAZING especially if you’re a terror necro, and the ranger one creates a healing spring which also gives you a surge of 5k or so health which means you require less healing to pick you back up, and it helps keep the allies trying to Rez you alive.

These traits are very powerful and are certainly nothing to scoff at, and as I told my friend, “it’s always nice to have a bit of insurance incase things go south.”

As for the fall damage traits, they’re pretty useless in sPvP due to their purpose (which kinda sucks imo), but in WvW they’re invaluable, so many escapes I’ve made because of those traits.

EDIT: just remembered the Lava Tomb trait, which is hit it miss, it’s decent on power builds due to the damage boost and lava font, it’s nearly OP on zerker staff builds (good luck finishing a downed zerker ele ontop of a single lava font let alone two), and then worthless for condi builds (it applies after vapor form too so you get 2 lava fonts that are ticking for 50% increased damage or w/e damage it is.)

Wetpaw.3487:

FOTM is kinda a different beast, it’s the only content atm that requires AR, if you plan to advance up FOTM as a Ranger, spotter/frost and a focused Zerk be the way to do it.
May want a set just for FOTM.

Tequatl can’t crit. But zerk set fine for Defense, adds, finger killers, and dps for tequatl burn phases when you don’t have to worry about being hurt.
I like doing Southboat defense/east battery group as a Ranger.

Just tacking onto this, FOTM doesn’t NEED zerker, it’s just highly recommended, i know i run clerics (more of a “I’m not changing my gear set” sorta thing) and my groups have praised the ground i walk on when we get to fractals where you need to be tanky… like the dredge one.

Lickage.7318:

Durzlla.6295:

Lickage.7318:

Hello, I just dinged 80 on my ranger but I have no clue what kind of stats I need on a ranger. I mainly pve/wvw

thanks in advance

First of all, congrats on lv 80!

Now the question is what do you want to do as a ranger? What kind of play style do you want? Are you wanting to be supporty? Condi damage? A bunker? I can help ya out but I gotta know what you’re aiming for first!!

PS: if you’re like me and you don’t care about the “optimal” PvE builds then you can totally get away with anything, otherwise look for zerker.

Hey thanks for you’re reply, and Wetpaw to

I like playing WvW both zerg and scouting. I also like to do dungeons (fractals and arah) and would love to bring that tequatl guy down at least 1 time.

I don’t mind anny playstyle with ranger. I’m very fond of mellee and range but I don’t want to rely on my pet tomuch.

If that’s the case i’d absolutely say to go with a classic Zerker longbow build (usually 30 marksman 20 skirmishing and 20 anywhere else to boost your defense, i normally put it in WS or BM depending on what i’m looking for).

The longbow should be used in zergs, on walls etc, and then also make sure you have a sword/warhorn for the buffs and the raw damage. I know in PvE it’s common to take spotter (20pts in marksman allows you to pick that up) and frost spirit for the benefit of the groups damage.

Shadow Phage.9084:

Durzlla.6295:

Well Natural healing is always in effect, not to mention eles only works while in water Attunement, something you won’t be sitting in a long time unless you absolutely need to. Then there’s also the fact that we have more access to passive regen than they do, and the main reason to take the trait is to heal your pet…

It’s hardly a worthless trait.

PS: the heal scales really well based on healing power (for a passive heal) however the regen on your pet scales off YOUR healing power and the regen on you scales off YOUR PETS healing power (either 0 or 350)

If I remember right, the heal is also goofy as hell. It will heal for more if your pet is actively engaged (attacking) than if it is set to passive or heel.

This is if you take Companions Healing or w/e the trait is that boosts their healing power to 350, because all the, “Pets get X boost” only applies while they’re in combat (which is stupid, but thats a whole other discussion)

EDIT: Compassion Training makes the heal go from 133 to 177 so the coefficient is roughly 12% of your pets healing power (since it’s either 350 or nothing) i’d ASSUME it’s the same for you, but that could be totally wrong

EDIT2: It appears YOUR healing power has no effect on the pets regen, which is very strange if you ask me…

NOTE: ALL of the testing was done in sPvP, this may be different in WvW or PvE.

Well Natural healing is always in effect, not to mention eles only works while in water Attunement, something you won’t be sitting in a long time unless you absolutely need to. Then there’s also the fact that we have more access to passive regen than they do, and the main reason to take the trait is to heal your pet…

It’s hardly a worthless trait.

PS: the heal scales really well based on healing power (for a passive heal) however the regen on your pet scales off YOUR healing power and the regen on you scales off YOUR PETS healing power (either 0 or 350)

Lickage.7318:

Hello, I just dinged 80 on my ranger but I have no clue what kind of stats I need on a ranger. I mainly pve/wvw

thanks in advance

First of all, congrats on lv 80!

Now the question is what do you want to do as a ranger? What kind of play style do you want? Are you wanting to be supporty? Condi damage? A bunker? I can help ya out but I gotta know what you’re aiming for first!!

PS: if you’re like me and you don’t care about the “optimal” PvE builds then you can totally get away with anything, otherwise look for zerker.

The damage isn’t THAT much higher, what makes it so good in large scale battles (like WvW) is that each meteor hits 5 people instead of the whole AoE only hitting 5 people, so you can essentially hit 120 people with one meteor shower assuming all 24 meteors hit 5 players, where barrage you can only hit 60, they both have their purposes, and i feel barrage is overall more useful than meteor shower is.

I go through most fights as my Ele and never even cast MS, where on my ranger (when he’s got a LB) it’s rare for me to not cast Barrage.

Don’t get me wrong, if they want to buff Barrage damage i’m not going to complain, i just feel like the cripple is generally more useful, and that’s why the damage is lower, that and it’s guaranteed to hit where Meteor Shower is not.

CRrabbit.1284:

As I mentioned in 1st topic why I compared these 2 skills, they are all #5 skill on 2-hand weapon, with same CD, both need channel and do AOE damage per trick. So in my opinion they are very similar type of skills and very comparable.

The point is NOT to complain how pathetic barrage does VS meteor shower (although someone already showed that 1 meteor damage> whole barrage) .

The point is WHY Anet use totally different logic to describe the damage of these 2 skills? It makes Barrage look much better than meteor shower but in fact it’s a HUGE MISLEADING in numbers.

Isn’t this a perfect sample of double-standards?

Durzlla.6295:

You can’t compare these too, not to mention the radius on Meteor shower is sure as hell not 360 (that’s the meteor explosion radius), the skill is SIGNIFICANTLY larger than barrage, and under no realistic circumstance will you hit someone with all 24.

The skill does do more AoE damage than barrage yes, but it does not provide any form of CC (cripple) like barrage, and it’s absolutely 100% useless in a 1v1 fight because all that’ll happen is you get your teeth kicked in as you try to use it where barrage you tend to be able to get off at least a few waves for the cripple and can break out of it and move on…

Did i mention that Meteor Shower takes a full second longer to channel than Barrage?

It’s hardly double standards, you have to look at it in an overall balance aspect, Meteor Shower is RANDOM, you can literally miss EVERY SINGLE METEOR even while they’re in the area the whole time, on the other hand you have the ranger over there using barrage who is dealing damage AND crippling up to 5 targets in the area and there’s nothing they can do about it other than get out, or pop a defensive CD.

Also, an ele has the lowest armor and health in the game and the general play style for an ele is “You stop moving you die” using meteor shower requires you to stand still for almost 4s, if the enemy team is paying any attention to this you’re going to be butchered in a matter of seconds. Not to mention if you swap out of your fire attunement you’ve effectively denied yourself access to the skill for 13s compared to the rangers 10s. Also, the rangers skill allows them a location to kite and stay alive in, the eles is pure damage, in a weapon (attunement) that is ONLY damage.

Have you even played ele? Or have you just been kitten on by an eles aoe damage and thought they were too strong compared to ranger?

Ele is THE AoE prof, especially with a staff where they literally become a walking artillery canon where every single one of their attacks can hit +5 people (with the exception of Chain lightning which is 3).

You can’t compare these too, not to mention the radius on Meteor shower is sure as hell not 360 (that’s the meteor explosion radius), the skill is SIGNIFICANTLY larger than barrage, and under no realistic circumstance will you hit someone with all 24.

The skill does do more AoE damage than barrage yes, but it does not provide any form of CC (cripple) like barrage, and it’s absolutely 100% useless in a 1v1 fight because all that’ll happen is you get your teeth kicked in as you try to use it where barrage you tend to be able to get off at least a few waves for the cripple and can break out of it and move on…

Did i mention that Meteor Shower takes a full second longer to channel than Barrage?

jaykayy.6873:

Cufufalating.8479:

jaykayy.6873:

Problem with trap ranger is that the only condi clear you have as one is from empathic bond + no stun breaks (unless you trait for one…then you get only one on a long cd). Good luck fighting a hammer warrior

If you cant dodge hammer stun in a 1v1, no amount of stunbreakers are going to help you – you’re just bad at playing. And besides, its very common to play trap rangers with 2 traps + LR, which is what I do.

Dodge an aoe stun every 7 1/2 seconds, plus Back breaker & staggering blow? You only have two dodges, you use energy sigil and sword…your still going to eventually get stunned. Not to mention he’s cleansing your conditions everytime he uses a Burts skill (assuming he’s 30 into defense which every hammer is). I know this because I’ve played a trap ranger and a hammer warrior. Can’t even argue with this fact from a logical standpoint either. You say you run only two traps, if your last utility is a stun breaker, the cooldown on that (the fastest one avail to a ranger…traited) is 32 seconds.

just a question…. you’re a ranger right? So that means you’ve got an incredible amount of chill and/or cripple… and if you’re also a trap ranger you should have A LOT of cripple + an immob on one trap… not to mention you’re running a shortbow which gives you a slight gap opener +evade + swiftness…. so why the kitten are you in melee range?

If the warrior is using a hammer they don’t have kitten for gap closing, and if they do they gave up defensive utilities, ABUSE THE kitten out of that and make them your kitten from range…. Congrats, they can’t clear anything and cant even build adrenaline after the first stun whiff.

kiwituatara.6053:

Terravos.4059:

Those are good options as well Durzlla, Skirmishing Line does need some better options for Power Users.

I mean its a Crit Based line, but it has 4 “trapper” based traits, 4 Pet Based traits, an Axe Trait that makes no sense (since Axe Main hand is a condition weapon, not a crit damage weapon) and 1 actual power based option, Quick Draw, I’d say Moment of Clarity but that’s more of a defensive option

It just occured to me, axes were pretty good crit dmg weapons when gw2 first started… then Honed Axes got nerfed from 33% to 10%.

Boom, right here, axe used to be freaking amazing as a hybrid weapon because how the insane crit damage you could get from Honed Axes, and then they nerfed it into oblivion at the end of beta for god knows why….

I think it was 50% crit damage, but seeing as how kittenty axe raw damage is by default all that really did was bring it up to par…

Terravos.4059:

Beastmaster’s Might always confuses me, I run Signet Build on my thief for huge hits for the lawls every now and again.

Their Traits are much shorter cooldowns, making it far more viable.. and their actives work far better then it….Why would anyone waste all your passives/actives when ya don’t need to for 9 stacks of might i’ll never get…

It’s in the name, BEASTMASTERS, try a 20/0/0/20/30 build with DPS pets, you could give your pet 18stacks of might for 20s, in addition to the other effects of the signets, it gets pretty ridiculous and actually gets to the point where you can one shot people (squishies obviously)

jcbroe.4329:

I would take this option any day.

My suggestion would be to combine them (opening up a slot for a new adept trait), and then take Carnivorous Appetite in the Masters slot and make it effect the player as well, but more like “your pets crits steal health for you, and your crits steal health for your pet.” That would also help power builds out a ton.

I feel like that would lesson the trait, the purpose of it is to make the squishy pets more tanky, however i would like it to be a “Your crits steal health for you” but just make it less than the pets for obvious reasons (sort of like the regen in BM).

@OP I’d say just make Agility training and pet prowess just increase it by like 10% speed and like10% crit damage while your pet is alive to keep it more pet focused but make it also assist you a bit instead of being totally pet based.

EDIT: Or better yet make it so Agility training makes it so your pet ALSO has a % chance to give you swiftness on hit with an ICD.

Black Scoutsman.5830:

I would kill for axe to have a melee option. The first time I read ranger was going to get mainhand axe I was so excited to setup an axe/dagger melee ranger. Instead I was only allowed to throw my axes away

So much this…… I wish we could throw them at range and then chop them in melee

The only AI build that’s a mindless build is spirit ranger (I should know, rangers my main…) I’ve played turrets, phantasms, MM, you name it and they all gotta CC and other such to help the minions bring down their enemy. They also don really provide “support” sure they all have control, but that’s about it.

Spirit builds are literally spam auto in the middle of a team fight and profit because your minions buff you that much….

The Devourers have pretty bad ones too…. 2.5s for a kittening poison volley clone? Really?

CRrabbit.1284:

I am uncertain about this, wiki said environmental weapons won’t benefit from traits but with exceptions, they only give warrior’s trait as example. That’s why I still put MoC there by hoping it may work, but in fact 2 sec vs 4 sec is not much different. (of coz 4 sec will be sexier)

KeyLimPi.9031:

CRrabbit.1284:

LH may not benefit from Moment of Clarity since LH is considered as environmental weapons

Ele main here: It should still be effective as they can still be cross traited! That’s the reason Fire Axe with Pyromancer Puissance stacks might and Bursting Staff makes the size of Lightning Hammer’s Static the same size as traited staff static.

At the very least it’s worth testing mates

Well that’s wrong, all our boars items are environmental items and it’s well known that they are boosted by MoC, which is why you can get a 9s AoE fear or better yet a 6s skull crack (sucks to suck doesn’t it warriors?)

And seeing as how I was able to stun the moss heart fractal boss for 4-6s with his own branch a few nights ago… I’m gonna have to side with " the wiki is wrong"

You gotta take dust baths bro!! I’ve got a bird and he loves to try and take them when he can lol

Shadow Phage.9084:

Durzlla.6295:

thefantasticg.3984:

Durzlla.6295:

The difference between iZerker and our pet is that iZerker was literally bugged, our pets just have bad AI, which Anet has acknowledge and have also said it’s likely not gonna change because it’s tied into the AI of mobs (god forbid PvE became challenging)

Wait, what? I’ve been gone from the forums for quite a few weeks. Who said this and when was it said????

It was said quite a while ago, i’m pretty sure a month or two, my friend gave me the link to it, i’ll try and find it again (should really bookmark that thing).

If anyone else has the link please feel free to link it.

EDIT: Having a hell of a time finding this quote… I could be wrong…

Ask and ye shall receive (assuming this is the one you wanted):

Summoned creature AI is a different can of worms that we aren’t opening for the same reason. Pets that delay F2 use isn’t some wait script we put into their skills it has to do with core AI behavior shared by all pets and creatures and how they decide tasks. Rewriting that has the risks of breaking millions of unknown things so we have up until now band aided the solution. It is something that needs addressing but won’t be addressed until we can kitten how and when we will test it.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/ranger/December-10th-Ranger-changes/page/8#post3162139

That is exactly what i’m looking for!! Thanks!!

totally bookmarking that….

achensherd.2735:

I’d take Kakashi’s ninja dogs over that. It’d be an Elite version of [Sic ‘Em] (not functionally, but it’d have a similar name), where a bunch of dogs pile and clamp onto (i.e. immobilize) the target while we… I don’t know… [Maul]… it…?

Nah, just name it “RELEASE THE HOUNDS!!”

Just gonna add a 4th opinion on the vitality trait, i tried it without before i tried it with and i gotta say i prefer having it over not. The added vitality (i went into marks instead of NM) was very nice and i liked that it actually gave me a good chunk of power too.

Also… what’s wrong with selfish builds in tPvP? This isn’t a game that’s all about team fights, most fights tend to only be 1v1 or 2v2 so if you don’t bring anything for the team fights it doesn’t really matter so long as you aren’t really there… And with a home point defender or a far point assaulter, or hell even a roaming build you aren’t going to be bringing team support because that’s not your roles job. You’ll have some control which will help secure kills, but that’s about it.

warriorjrd.8695:

Durzlla.6295:

Prysin.8542:

if you want a tanky pet that does reasonable DPS and dont just sit there, get a darn drake. It provides a blast finisher to blast the firefields in melee range.

Not to mention it is the ONLY pet whose attacks cleave, it also does more damage than canines by default, and completely trumps cats and birds once you’re up against more than one enemy at a time.

I find drakes are the worst pet for actually hitting the enemy. I mean, the blast finisher actually roots the pet. It does deal nice damage, but it doesn’t hit very often.

Yeah…. gotta say drakes may do A LOT of damage, all of which is AoE, but my god do both their F2’s and their actual attacks not land very often…. Both in PvE AND PvP

thefantasticg.3984:

Durzlla.6295:

The difference between iZerker and our pet is that iZerker was literally bugged, our pets just have bad AI, which Anet has acknowledge and have also said it’s likely not gonna change because it’s tied into the AI of mobs (god forbid PvE became challenging)

Wait, what? I’ve been gone from the forums for quite a few weeks. Who said this and when was it said????

It was said quite a while ago, i’m pretty sure a month or two, my friend gave me the link to it, i’ll try and find it again (should really bookmark that thing).

If anyone else has the link please feel free to link it.

EDIT: Having a hell of a time finding this quote… I could be wrong…

TurtleDragon.3108:

I believe traited signet of stone works. Though, you still take agony damage obvs.

This it does, anything that makes you “Invulnerable” or take “0” damage will negate the damage portion of the canons but it will also forfeit your achievement for not getting hit and still hit you with agony because agony is mean like that (unless you’re literally invulnerable i believe i think that might spare you the agony)

I tried it earlier today lol, they’re all unblockable by GS #4, warrior and guardian shields and aegis.

Shadow Phage.9084:

Durzlla.6295:

Prysin.8542:

if you want a tanky pet that does reasonable DPS and dont just sit there, get a darn drake. It provides a blast finisher to blast the firefields in melee range.

Not to mention it is the ONLY pet whose attacks cleave, it also does more damage than canines by default, and completely trumps cats and birds once you’re up against more than one enemy at a time.

And therein lies a problem: exactly 5 pets out of the whole menagerie (45 pets?) cleave. Why they didn’t make it so the majority of melee pets cleave is beyond me. Its not as if it exactly breaks PvE or even PvP.

edit: I can’t count, apparently.

It kinda makes sense honestly, you can only really bite one thing at a time unless you’re a big kitten lizard…. Personally I think bears and boars should cleave too to make them more desire able, the DPS pets are fine, the tanky ones need some love.

Prysin.8542:

if you want a tanky pet that does reasonable DPS and dont just sit there, get a darn drake. It provides a blast finisher to blast the firefields in melee range.

Not to mention it is the ONLY pet whose attacks cleave, it also does more damage than canines by default, and completely trumps cats and birds once you’re up against more than one enemy at a time.

To everyone saying they do more damage at range with a warrior than a ranger, you’re just delusional, the warrior doesn’t come close to the rangers ranged damage as long as this fancy thing called a PET, you know, our class mechanic, is in play as well… ESPECIALLY if you’re using a damage oriented pet like a cat or a bird…

Does the warrior get bigger numbers with some of their shots? Yes, that’s their thing, but we have more numbers, and ours aren’t that far behind theirs… Higher DPS > Big Slow Numbers

Dardamaniac.1295:

Ive always wondered why traps dont feel like “traps”..
You make an trap to ambush some unsuspected foes..You wait invisible while they step on it and when they do, you attack…….Thats what traps are actually, not something that you throw on the ground to aoe ppl…

Imagine a hunter carrying the traps, reaching in 600 range from his target and throw em in their feet….

What the kitten anet?
Rename em at least, this shows that you didnt actually had a concept about the Ranger class….You just mixed some skills and traits to fill a class slot…..

Nice video btw

Uh…. you kinda don’t throw them unless you take a trait, a trait which should be split from the traps have increased range trait imo because i’d like to have larger radius traps without having to throw them…

Mabuse.2879:

Hammerguard.9834:

I don’t see why they’re all above 1 second cast time.

It’s worse than a simple one second cast time. The skill gets added to the pet’s to-do list, and only starts when it’s finished whatever animation it’s currently doing. In some cases you can get a fairly quick response as an opener, if you keep your pet out of combat until you need its skill, or recall the pet to cancel its current action. More detail in this video

And then other times it decides that its 25 auto attacks are MUCH more important than getting off that interrupt so they use it 3 minutes later, after the fights pretty much been won…. Or better yet, they never use it because they decided to interrupt themselves by moving and now it went on full cool down, thanks good AI!

Sube Dai.8496:

5 seconds of fire/frost armour or 3 seconds of chaos…so what? I’ll just avoid you for 5 seconds…

Much more effective to use one of those leaps on healing spring for the heal.

I mean I’m happy to be proven wrong but can anyone honestly say that combos make the difference in a fight (at small scale)?

Do you not realize how detrimental avoiding someone for 5s is? Especially since we are, you know, rangers and our sword auto will not allow you the mercy of avoiding us…

aussieheals.6843:

Durzlla.6295:

aussieheals.6843:

You need to change your pet to a cat or dog. Also you need to turn on fast casting in the interface. Try to save your dodge rolls and drop the axe for a shortbow till it’s fixed.

Uh…. What’s wrong with the axe?

Clunky, spilt axe doesn’t about face and it could use a slight raw damage increase

Why would axe need to about face when no other ranged attack does? Also split axe gives a 100% uptime on 5 stacks of bleeding, it doesn’t really need a damage buff….

@Sol, your trapper build is very similar to the one I was messing around with a while ago, I used Axe/Dagger and Sword/Torch too but I used entangle over RaO (don’t really use this elite for some reason, I need to do that more…) and I brought a frost trap instead of the sig, was getting some really good results from it , but I gotta say necro screws me over whenever I use ANY condi build…. But hey, what are you gonna do vs the master of condis? It’s like going up against a mes with a boon reliant build.

Sube Dai.8496:

Durzlla.6295:

Most of the blast and leap finishers are too short (as in the effect they give) which really lessons them, projectile and whirls are pretty good for the most part.

Also, Combo fields are a big part, you can achieve a lot of stuff by taking advantage of fields instead of ignoring them, ESPECIALLY as a ranger who has access to just about every field in the game. Hell with the proper pets we actually outshine staff eles in terms of fields…

That being said, i fully agree that combo fields should be a much bigger part of the game.

EDIT: actually upon further inspection of the finishers (assuming the wiki is right) most of them are pretty dreaming strong…

Apart from the heals, which ones do you think are strong Durz? The only fields we can reliably put down on demand (so excluding pets) are fire and water.

Water – ok heals are nice, but

Fire – its either burning arrows, which can be better done buy sun spirit, or area might but I think i’d rather use that for the heal if im using warhorn.

we can also, you know, leap through the fire field and get a fire aura which burns them and gives us might when hit…

Also, i’d say that ice would also be a reliable one since it’s just from a trap, and poison would also be reliable due to Murrellow being very good at putting it down in combat, and how long it lasts…

For frost it gives you access to frost aura (both aoe and on yourself) which reduces all damage taken by 10% and chills the enemy, which is just great if you’re being defensive. The poison one allows you to apply a lot of weakness, 8s on a leap and 5s on aoe blast.

Yelloweyedemon.2860:

Durzlla.6295:

Yelloweyedemon.2860:

DeadlySynz.3471:

I agree 100%. The best thing I find if you really want to enjoy the Ranger class is to just ignore your pet all together.

…………

No wonder why you guys getting kicked out of each dundgeon/fractal.

jaguar stalk + sic’em + RaO = 5k crits. (from the normal 1.5-2k each hit)

Yeah ignore them! Get a bear and a LB and stay at 1500m range with all passive signets. That’s gonna help!

At least if you use a Moa with a LB the Moa will be giving boons (if you use the F2) and healing the guys in Melee…

The only one that has a kinda-worthy special skill is the red moa for furry, but you should have a warhorn for that anyways. Also their damage is terrible.

well if you’re using a longbow as i said in the situation you probably would be wanting to be busting out that warhorn for buffing the guys all the way up in melee range… just sayin lol.

Also, the prot is really nice too, and the heal, and the interrupt moas are nice in PvP because it’s an AoE and you still get their heal.

aussieheals.6843:

You need to change your pet to a cat or dog. Also you need to turn on fast casting in the interface. Try to save your dodge rolls and drop the axe for a shortbow till it’s fixed.

Uh…. What’s wrong with the axe?

Yelloweyedemon.2860:

DeadlySynz.3471:

I agree 100%. The best thing I find if you really want to enjoy the Ranger class is to just ignore your pet all together.

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No wonder why you guys getting kicked out of each dundgeon/fractal.

jaguar stalk + sic’em + RaO = 5k crits. (from the normal 1.5-2k each hit)

Yeah ignore them! Get a bear and a LB and stay at 1500m range with all passive signets. That’s gonna help!

At least if you use a Moa with a LB the Moa will be giving boons (if you use the F2) and healing the guys in Melee…

Rarnark.5623:

Durzlla.6295:

I’m almost positive they made it so you can only swap at the very beginning before the match starts…

No, you can character swap at any time during the match.

Are you sure? That sounds horribly stupid since you can’t even swap utilities mid match…. I’ll try this later I don’t think it works that way …

The difference between iZerker and our pet is that iZerker was literally bugged, our pets just have bad AI, which Anet has acknowledge and have also said it’s likely not gonna change because it’s tied into the AI of mobs (god forbid PvE became challenging)

I’m almost positive they made it so you can only swap at the very beginning before the match starts…

I’ve been on these forums since beta, these threads come up every kittening 5 minutes and bring up the same kittening problems every god kitten time.

It’s not a matter of “oh if we don’t say anything the devs won’t know!” The devs KNOW the problems, they’ve been here for a kittening year and we have been complaining about them for that long. They’ve even acknowledged them and just haven’t done anything about it.

So sorry that me, and many of the other veteran rangers are kinda sick of seeing this kitten pop up.

PS: I don’t know what’s worse, the fact these problems are still around or the fact I knew exactly what your thread was about without even reading your post.

I’ve been saying since beta that tanky pets by default stand between you and your enemies and no one believed me, at least someone else notices it now….

Most of the blast and leap finishers are too short (as in the effect they give) which really lessons them, projectile and whirls are pretty good for the most part.

Also, Combo fields are a big part, you can achieve a lot of stuff by taking advantage of fields instead of ignoring them, ESPECIALLY as a ranger who has access to just about every field in the game. Hell with the proper pets we actually outshine staff eles in terms of fields…

That being said, i fully agree that combo fields should be a much bigger part of the game.

EDIT: actually upon further inspection of the finishers (assuming the wiki is right) most of them are pretty dreaming strong…

SWG pets > WoW pets > GW1 pets > GW2 pets…. Kinda sad when your kittening first game has better AI than your second and there was no MANDATORY pet in the first one….

Also, WoW may have had better pets, but thank god Anet doesn’t balance like blizzard (aka they don’t) or PvP would be completely 100% skill less.

It was changed, it now gives you regen on being crit….. Wooohooo…. So much more fun than chilling and applying vuln while mist…. Oh boy thanks Anet…

Not able to watch the vid quite yet (work), but you say you have high crit yet you’re using carrion, is your high crit coming from high fury uptime? Because it looks like it’s only about 20%.

Oh look another one of these threads…. Maybe we should just make a sticky with every single one of them at the top so people stop making them….

We know pets are broken, we know our utilities are about as exciting as watching paint dry, and we know we have no real theme to the class.

Did I mention our pets are unresponsive and have poor AI? I feel like the 15 other threads on the front post saying that may have not covered it…

Dawdler.8521:

Zomaarwat.3912:

Asura allow the Inquest in their city, and theyre less friendly than the SoS. At least you can walk around in their area.

That’s a little different though. The Asurans would probably argue that if you where stupid enough to get killed by the Inquest, you where a waste of breath to begin with.

Look at the Inquest like a group such as… The NSA. Everyone know they’re evil incarnate and they do illegal stuff/violate the constitution every day, but they are still sanctioned by the goverment and they are allowed to operate at will.

Actually it’s quite literally a matter of “what happens outside rata sum stays outside rata sum” and “they get results so ….” Combined.

They don’t care so much -what- the inquest do so long as they’re not doing it in the city and they are getting results, once the results stop showing though inquest will be no use and thus nothing more than an enemy.

Sube Dai.8496:

It was said in another thread but power rangers are actually balanced, ie. They can hit hard and die easy. Its warriors, thieves and mesmers that are unbalanced, since they have greater survivability even in full zerk.

The zerker ranger build I was running was in a similar position as thieves, if someone got ahold of you you kittening exploded, key word is IF you gotta be slippery.

Also, most people fail to realize that glassy builds on those OTHER profs are really squishy when they go 30/30/x/x/x, the thing is most their glassy builds do NOT go that glassy and actually have points to give them enough defenses to kill someone.

Also, rangers don’t burst ( they -can- but it’s pretty meh), our power builds just constantly shave off chunks of health which a lot of people view as “bad” because it’s not one giant number, which is wrong, it’s good, and imo better than burst because it’s nearly impossible to avoid the damage.

The more you know!!

ProxyDamage.9826:

Durzlla.6295:

The part I bolder is totally false, you know where rangers die? Melee range , you know where a ranger isn’t beaten? At ranged, I run LB, Axe/dagger for a reason and it’s sure as hell not for the min/maxing damage nonsense it’s to survive and win.

This is so incredibly, utterly, completely false, it’s not even funny. Greatsword is one of the ranger’s best weapons. In dungeons, Sword/Warhorn is very common for good reason – best power scaling, good party buffs and a blast finisher.

Axe/dagger is a crap combo. Especially if you’re also using Longbow. Longbow is a power weapon. Axe/dagger are condition weapons (and meh even for that) with absolutely horrible power scaling. You also got no mobility and no melee, so someone puts up a reflect and you do nothing. Someone gets close to you and you do nothing.

If you were talking about PvE then you are the “bearbows” any decent dungeon runner runs away from like the godkitten plague.

We’re also not “unbeatable” at range by any stretch of the word or imagination.

Uh, you can be hybrid damage you know this right? I prefer not to put all my eggs in one basket….

And no mobility? You don’t even know the rest of my build, not to mention axe does a good job of punishing anyone who gets in Melee by split blading their face… Not to mention you can keep people away from you using these fancy things called snares and immobilizes…. Also, this is for PvP, not PvE, if you read the post pretty much right above yours you’d know that.

And we deal more ranged damage than any other profession, if we went into a max ranged duel with anyone else we’d win hands down, ESPECIALLY if the pet is also involved (that’ll push us above literally everyone including warriors).