Guild Wars 2

This might help out small grp combat, give them something to actually build when baiting a zerg into a fight. I’ve suggested mines before, lets hope this is something similar.

Will miss u OINK gais =(
Let us know how it turns out!

kevinmrstowe.4098:

Dynnen.6405:

kevinmrstowe.4098:

Gab Superstar.4059:

kevinmrstowe.4098:

CrazyCanuck.4265:

kevinmrstowe.4098:

Hello everyone its that Char ele from SPCA that everyone wants to fight all the time.
I made a video of some thief play from a few nights ago, its my first video so don’t judge me too hard. Make sure u read the description, its a touching story about a man named dynney from AD who used to b a zerg user but has recently quit his addiction to zerg.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wPtdXTBFPY

Im pretty sure people only want to fight you cause you are a free stack/lootbag.

Please how can this be when i hold the 15-0 heavyweight champion of AD belt……

Kevin, this reminds me of GW1 where you would alienate an entire guild cause you didn’t make the cut for their core team. If you show respect to people who beat you, those people will show respect towards you when you beat them.

I truly believe you would enjoy this game a lot more if you would just stop all this bickering / trying to prove you are the best player in the game. No one in this thread is.

I dont think im the best player in the game, but i do think AD is a bunch of zergers and they always challenge me to fight and lose.

6+ = zerging
8 NSP vs 10 DR = zerg vs NSP (ohh I mean only 3 NSP, those other 5 don’t count, and how dare DR ever push NSP spawn when they are trying to take the tower thats 4000 range north of where they were attacking)

Going off your math skills here, you’re just a bunch of zergers too in your 5 man. Unless you completely pass up 1s and 2s of enemy players, which you don’t. So that doesn’t make sense.

But its ok when you zerg surf and camp a zone entrance. And btw kevin, next time don’t spread your passive aggressive, borderline personalty, BS. We run a tight nit group and…/gasp, we actually talk about what you say about various parts of our alliance.

Grats on being able to win duels, you fall easily enough in the field when being overwhelmed by 0.25 more players and in that hypothetical situation u kept making up 5 v 15.

I didn’t read wat u wrote, but pls stop msing me swear words in all caps….ty.

1st) I responded to your caps with my own caps and said your reasoning was dumb.
2nd) That hasn’t happened for…4 or more hours so why are you acting like its still happening?

Ohh you’re a stereotypical BPD, and STILL trying to manipulate the conversation…yayy…

kevinmrstowe.4098:

Gab Superstar.4059:

kevinmrstowe.4098:

CrazyCanuck.4265:

kevinmrstowe.4098:

Hello everyone its that Char ele from SPCA that everyone wants to fight all the time.
I made a video of some thief play from a few nights ago, its my first video so don’t judge me too hard. Make sure u read the description, its a touching story about a man named dynney from AD who used to b a zerg user but has recently quit his addiction to zerg.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wPtdXTBFPY

Im pretty sure people only want to fight you cause you are a free stack/lootbag.

Please how can this be when i hold the 15-0 heavyweight champion of AD belt……

Kevin, this reminds me of GW1 where you would alienate an entire guild cause you didn’t make the cut for their core team. If you show respect to people who beat you, those people will show respect towards you when you beat them.

I truly believe you would enjoy this game a lot more if you would just stop all this bickering / trying to prove you are the best player in the game. No one in this thread is.

I dont think im the best player in the game, but i do think AD is a bunch of zergers and they always challenge me to fight and lose.

6+ = zerging
8 NSP vs 10 DR = zerg vs NSP (ohh I mean only 3 NSP, those other 5 don’t count, and how dare DR ever push NSP spawn when they are trying to take the tower thats 4000 range north of where they were attacking)

Going off your math skills here, you’re just a bunch of zergers too in your 5 man. Unless you completely pass up 1s and 2s of enemy players, which you don’t. So that doesn’t make sense.

But its ok when you zerg surf and camp a zone entrance. And btw kevin, next time don’t spread your passive aggressive, borderline personalty, BS. We run a tight nit group and…/gasp, we actually talk about what you say about various parts of our alliance.

Grats on being able to win duels, you fall easily enough in the field when being overwhelmed by 0.25 more players and in that hypothetical situation u kept making up 5 v 15.

<3 bunker spammin baddies
Hump dat zone entrance!

Personally I’d rather them add distance between defense points and work on small group/open field mechanics. Usually these gvgs are set up at the end of the week making the damage on PTT negligible.

Os guild was hosting a game of ‘Ring around the Rosie’ east of NSP garrison. It was a good time =D

Dear NOX zergling outside hills in DR BL. Thanks for rage emoting at me by dancing and laughing at my corpse and having me on block already. Thats pretty impressive, just wish I could remember you, lol.

I knew that post would summon The Attic, lol

Thrashbarg.9820:

ErlendR.6107:

Is so easy, remove aoe cap … is not too hard to understand …

I’ll see your blob and raise you 4 superior arrow carts….

(some days I think the people suggesting removing the aoe cap have never heard of retaliation. there are a few skills that sort of ignore the aoe cap, and you can just about insta-gib yourself using them on a big enough blob. I know, they have these visions of their 5 man elite zerg-busting unit dropping the pain on big balls of “noobs”, but in reality it would just be suicide by retaliation damage.)

we’d adapt to that problem, trust me.

Kiromana.9875:

Elementalist Owner.7802:

Mayhem.1935:

tSK, TSK, [AD], tsk tsk!! I thought we were friends!

They probably knew it was you.

Pretty sure they’re just kittenty people.

Thats Interpreter, our Public Relations officer. Unfortunately he thought we said ‘Pubic Relations Officer’ and we haven’t been able to convince him otherwise. Sry =P

Sobiech.9613:

Gab Superstar.4059:

By the way, if DH had managed to keep their kitten together for just one more week they would have moved up and taken AR’s place in T5.

I’m both saddened and amused by this fact

It is more that DH doesn’t have their kitten together or could it be that DR and/or IoJ got their kitten together? As much as I’d like to believe the latter, its the former. sniff sniff

Closer matches are more interesting anyway.

Well, actually you are right, but its more of a little of both sobeitch. We became more organized to compete with your numbers that can be fielded. Where you can bring 50-60 and win through sheer numbers we can bring 30-40 and have to use tactics. Sad matter of the truth. Too bad aoe is capped at 5 otherwise these engagements would be a lot more interesting.

It was also noted that constant beatings might force some of the fairweather players you claim to have to stop showing up. I remember 2-3 times where you had the outmanned buff in EB and these coincided with long sieges that didn’t go anywhere or complete wipes. I know you guys are tired of hearing about numbers, but reset night shows that numbers aren’t everything; and a little arm-chair commanding can really make the difference. Ill give you a little bit of advice my Drill Sergeants gave our platoon prior to our Field training: ‘Situational awareness is the ability to notice your surroundings; Stay Alert! Stay Alive!’ Watch those flanks

Lazuline.3876:

Meanwhile in the Eternal Battlegrounds…

Isle of Janthir sends mighty armies to siege Darkhaven’s last bastion. A massive battle begins as the two armies clash.

In the midst of the battle, a faint female voice is heard…

“Nuclear launch detected”

A bright light appears.

And boom… Everyone disappears.

Is this from the DC issues everyone has been having?

When running around in wvw, you have to have a high amount of toughness. Is it annoying?
Yes.
Is it frustrating because other classes have mechanics that allow them to avoid using defensive stats and manage to be effective in combat?
Yes.
Can you take solace in knowing that you are playing one of the weakest classes out there?
Yes.

I will say this, coming from from SPvP you should know how to avoid the CnD/Mug + Backstab combo. You see the thief running at you waving his off-hand like a trained monkey just dodge and you’ll be fine. =D

hyjaxxx.1584:

I dont know what time 7am server time is, because i have mine set to pst. ..but when the scores reset at 3pst we were much softer then we are at 5pst..thats what i was saying.

but as every dark haven’er has learned by now. Ole Gab will find something to say about every post lol.

..surprisingly, No lip flapping about the two of you trying to team up on us though. I hope the alliance between DR and IoJ works out though because its nice to have a challenge. ive been fallin asleep at the keys far too much the past couple weeks.

Is that why we’ve been trampling over you in the open field these past couple of weeks? Well get some coffee man! As far as the ‘double teaming’ I would say that I’ve killed more DH than I have IoJ, but IoJ just can’t put out the numbers DH can =P

When defending our own borderlands I can hardly remember a time when the other two servers were actively fighting eachother and ignoring us. Its what happens in your own BLs, you get double teamed.

nyckolag.2394:

Mein.5076:

pixieish.9627:

So… we’ve gone from complaining about Darkhaven’s numbers to trying to form an alliance with IoJ by flinging insults at them.

…

So anyways!

I see DH passed us in points.

We dont want alliance, we actually laugh on how they cower behind DH. IoJ, most of the time attack us when DH are attacking us too. and when DH failed in their attack attempt, IoJ back off too, i hardly seen IoJ take the fight directly to our face, instead they are just like worm that eats the leftover, if they want a fight and recognition then knock on our door when we are nt busy dealing with DH, not just capping our Right side of our map tower(QL) while DH is trying to cap our Brav. of course i dont hate opportunist, but i hope they dont press V (dodge) the fact that they are cowering. which will make this a WWvW

That’s pretty funny, considering about an hour ago we were pressing Wildcreek, and behold who turns up and tries to do a sneaky on Veloka! Devona’s Rest! You wouldn’t happen to have been in that zerg there, would you? Because I recall us wiping you guys as you tried to run back through Pangloss… We even had enough time to make a counter attack on DH as they began pressing Anz.

I can’t comment on anything that happened after that because I had to go, but I could name a fair few more times when we’ve been pressing DH, only to have you guys start taking over our BL (ie reset night), or when we actually tried to get DH off of your backs – purposely leaving you guys alone (ie when you were defending SW tower in DH borderlands yesterday, with the DH zerg pressing it from the south).

But that’s alright – I won’t insult you guys, as I’ve still got a lot of respect for a lot of your players.

Had a really annoying run-in with ADNoQQBtsy at the south-east camp yesterday morning. We were being pressed by DH at that stage, and you guys showed up right after that haha – sadly we couldn’t rally enough numbers to make a proper push WHILST keeping the camp contested; it must have looked quite pathetic having us slowly trickling in like that. Luckily we had the outmanned buff on, so no repair bills for us!

That was a fun fight =D

Joey.3928:

To the Charr DR Guardian Raider from [OBS] in DR BL:

Please don’t dance on my corpse when I am on my upleveled necro and it is me vs 4+ of you. Otherwise this happens. Luckily for you, my wolf doesn’t like Charr meat. Too chewy.

Keep it fun and respectful.

Sry, I can’t take anyone named ‘Joey’ seriously =P

VeTx.5340:

Oozo.7856:

Heh. The arrow cart is against the wall. He is on the arrow cart. The red circle from the arrow cart is well inside the courtyard of the keep. He is cheating.

Whether it is via a third party hack or hardware, this is not intended gameplay and it is cheating. Defending it makes you no better than the cheaters.

Play on a high res 30" monitor in windowed mode it’s part of the game. no third party software necessary. Abyss has zero tolerance for hacking/exploits.

‘Nah dawg, I just play on a 30" monitor and bypass game mechanics that way I don’t exploit’ is just something someone says when they actually are exploiting and are making excuses about exploiting. If you are doing anything to bypass game mechanics and remove the challenge from a video game, maybe you shouldn’t be playing video games.

Almostfaceman.1804:

Nice job at Bay just now IoJ, there was like six or seven DR there and they were all focused on the treb and… wasting supply or something. In the meantime you had sneaked in and were cata’ing a wall. Hopefully, DR will learn something from this little episode.

Actually both IOJ and DH learned something outside of IOJ BL Bay keep tonight. They eventually learned to watch their flanks. It took 100+ deaths collectively for them to learn it, but they did. By the time we pulled out they were both standing near their tower/keep watching us.

It was a great training exercise for DR as well, and one of our warriors (Interpreter) learned something very important. If the enemy has attempted a portal bomb on us once, then maybe that one guy standing out solo might be bait

Miss Firesss.3704:

All this talk about bugs and hacks….Getting old, QUICK. If you lose, big deal.
I was in a garrison fight not too long ago, saw an arrow cart up against the wall (wasn’t sure what was going on) and it was taken out in about 30 seconds.

I distinctly remember taking a camp a few times, and seeing a bug that allowed an opposing team to take no damage while on the hillside. You know what we did? We left.

I died more times last night than I have in an entire week, but I just waypointed, didn’t come on here crying that there was some siege on the hill I couldn’t reach to take out, or 5-10 enemies hot on my tail because I was falling behind my group or trying to get out of the spawn.

You win some, you lose some. It’s a game people, not real life. The weapons aren’t real, the armor isn’t real and the gold isn’t real.

I am ready to move up a tier or face some new servers, just so I don’t have to see this whining all the time. (IoJ, you guys are pretty cool though, glad to see you out with more numbers!)

People are ’QQ’ing because there is an arrowcart OUTSIDE of a keep able to fire on things at INNER keep. I really don’t understand why people are having to re-explain this over and over. Its an exploit, its lame as hell, and whoever is performing these exploits shouldn’t be playing video games. Video games are for challenging yourselves, not being able to say ‘Check scoreboard kitten’.

http://www.youtube.com/user/RaggokOozo/videos?view=0
http://www.youtube.com/user/NoQQPvP
http://www.youtube.com/user/YouGotOwnedTT
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCci51-_GreYE_scxAogG3EQ

These are the channels I usually watch =D

Well I hate to say it but WAR was a mediocre replica of DAoC. In DAoC the sieges were a lot more interesting for a few reasons.
1) Defense points couldn’t attack other defense points with siege. The distance between defense points as well as spawn was high enough that players had to use terrain to gain an advantage.
2) Zergs had to be mindful of flanking attacks from ‘bomber’ groups. Since there was no aoe cap a group of very skilled players could hit the flanks with large aoe attacks harassing or destroying a zerg with help from the defenders.
3) AOE caps were non-existent. This turned mindless bump and grind sessions into actual engagements.
4) Players attacking a defense point had to defend their siege from defenders since they had to be placed in the open and not in another defense point.

Since I run in small man groups here is the problem that I see with the aoe cap. 5 man vs 20 man. The 5 man can only apply damage against 25% of the 20 man, while the 20 man can apply damage to 100% of the 5 man. Not only does the 20 man zerg have numbers, zerg revives, more of everything basically, they also have a significant damage increase. As a pvper since UO and an MA on an 8 man melee assist train (Super high single target damage) in DAoC I have to say this massive difference in damage output does not make sense.

hyjaxxx.1584:

Kyskythyn.6471:

hyjaxxx.1584:

If not, then we will stay in this tier and get stagnant from lack of proper contest.

Sadly, this already seems to be the case.

DH finds DR’s and IoJ’s zerg fights lacking. I’ve firsthand seen some of DR’s horrible zergs. Went to go flank for a big group taking a camp the other day only to find that big group had dissolved. >_<

DR for its part finds DH’s small group fights lacking. I haven’t seen too many roaming groups out there that could go toe to toe with ADQQSty.

What map ya gonna be on tonight? Ill gather up some grimmies and we will come say howdy.

Usually in the BLs, sometimes EB. Just ask your people in each BL where we are if you really want to find us =P

Mayhem.1935:

Hey! purple/pink butterflies are pretty!

I thought it was salmon, not pink =P

Dual.8953:

Nuzt.7894:

Dual.8953:

If they remove the AoE cap, what’s to stop large zergs from eating anything smaller them them?

Skill ?

Smaller groups can already outplay larger groups via skill. Every buff introduced in this game is magified when in the hands of a zerg.

Heaven forbid people that play games try to get better. Anyone else kittening remember when the point of playing a game was to challenge yourselves? Here maybe this will articulate my point a little better.

All you Save Yourselves fans give necros a woody everytime they see you

Tuluum.9638:

Dynnen.6405:

“Don’t do anything to make zerging less effective!”

- SBI

And.. it wouldnt make having large numbers any less effective! It would just make stacking as SOP to be less viable. To me, it just makes sense that standing in the fire is going to hurt more than.. not standing in the fire. Maybe Im crazy though.

And.. it wouldnt make having large numbers any less effective! It would just make stacking as SOP to be less viable. To me, it just makes sense that standing in the fire is going to hurt more than.. not standing in the fire. Maybe Im crazy though.Even if buffs were also made unlimited AoE, to pull it off you will need to be able to do so under a storm of AoE. That seems rather balanced as a concept, though individual skills may need specific adjustment when it comes to real life implementation (perhaps like retaliation and shadow refuge).

Exactly, and I think you touched on the thing that is preventing any lasting improvements to wvw. You would have to adjust things for wvw specifically. Unfortunately its just not in the cards (so far) =/

Yams.6082:

Harbinger.9645:

The problem is that numbers right now are not just a viable tactic, but the ONLY real tactic as very few things can break up a huge zerg…I would argue that really only another zerg can do that. Really dumbs down WvW a lot.

Yes, the only tactic to deal with a zerg is with another zerg, and that’s just the way it should be. I don’t understand why everyone wants to be Rambo and take on five or 10 enemies at once and win. WvW is numbers and coverage. Do not try to change WvW into a PvE version of sPvP, because sPvP already exists for those who only want to fight five or fewer people.

I would also like to point out that those who clamour for guild vs. guild are essentially asking for organized zerg vs. zerg. I didn’t realize that massing with people from the same guild is distinct from massing with people of different guilds.

The fact that this thread is showing up in the WvW subforum tells me its the “zergs must go” argument rearing its ugly head in another form. If anyone truly feels the AoE cap should be removed, post your thoughts in the GW2 Discussions subforum. This is a change that affects all players, PvE and WvW alike.

“Don’t do anything to make zerging less effective!”

- SBI

Sevenred.3890:

Removing AoE cap altogether is probably not the best solution. I mean, you all think about the elementalist perspective. Let me give you my thief perspective: Shadow Refuge + Zerg + No AoE cap = Invisible army just like before the end of culling.

You really want to get back to that?

And no one would aoe the kitten outta that stealth house I’m assuming =P

Krelkain.5418:

last episide guild of our lifes: debona’s rest wallet stolened a pantaloons to a dry clean and isle of jambo blamed. famly hed derk haven appointed to juror to discover hero need not but deserved — batman

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Am64BxArnUk

I was on a cannon firing at 7 golems when this was happening…I HAVE SHAMED MY CHAPTER AND EMPEROR =*(

I love how 90% of these people don’t understand ele AOE. Maybe thats why they are getting destroyed by it, lol. Make a staff ele, look at their skills and then say “Ohh kitten, thats easy to get out of if I’m paying attention”
And sure, single target damage needs to be buffed. I mean just look at thieves/ranger pets! They really don’t do much single target damage at all, poor wittle guys!

Cast ring of warding, shout Stand Your Ground, Judge’s Intervention into the edge of an enemy zerg. Proceed to smash faces.

1) Stand Your Ground
2) Judge’s Intervention
3) Ring of Warding

Number 3 was a close tie between Ring of Warding and Mighty Blow.

pixieish.9627:

Tots.3056:

Glad to see my siege placement in EB makes it to the forums. As long as you all don’t start a religion over a distraction ram.

Well, annoyingly just a little while ago when I was trying to impress a guild I was hoping to be recruited by, they called for a ram, I tossed one down, and much to everyone’s surprise it grew up to be a beautiful arrow cart!

Hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe

Creepy Silent.9801:

Wizardauz.3761:

Dynnen.6405:

No, there were 6 of you and you controlled bay. The second fight was just north of the sentry thats north of champs camp…for kitten sake if you don’t remember the fight thats fine. But quit making kitten up, its just obnoxious.

1V1 ME BRO!

P.s. – i missss uuuuu

Same to you guys! I might go and visit soon

Miss you too Tz!
SHUT UP CREEPY TZ WASN’T TALKING TO U!
BTW, I can’t get on EBay TS

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Mayhem.1935:

Dynnen.6405:

Mayhem.1935:

What the? You may have done that to some [SE] people but i sure as hell never lost a 6v3 when i had numbers on my side. Talk about trolling. Anywho, i’m up for fights whenever i dont mind putting you dudes in the earth if your that anxious. Try not to run into towers if you are losing though (ducky something) its bad form. See you in a BL someplace nerds!

Nerds? Lol! First off, you are a guy whos lying about stuff trying to save face on a forum, two you are playing the game just like everyone else, and third you play dress up with your wife in the game (hopefully just the game and not IRL).

Anywho yes, you did lose a 6v3 (1 person did get away from the first fight, so technically wasn’t a complete wipe), the guy that switched to his guardian was on a lvl 11 mesmer for it which did provide a timely rally for my ranger. You even said good fight after I told the dude that he was douching out for laughing on my corpse after the second fight (tbh it might have been your wife that said it). First fight was outside bay near the gryphons, and the next was just north of ruins.

Ya know what smalls? You’re about as cute as Bunzy. Get beat in open field multiple times, deny it and say “1V1 BRAH”. lol

Oh, you mean the fight with 4 ppl, 11 mesmer was someone random (not a guildmate) and the other ranger a random? Thats 4 people. Not 6. Yes 3 mesmers so maybe you got confused. Oh, you mean that fight were we were by bay and the vet so every time you died/dying just ran into the tower? That fight? (Engineer specifically). Oh you mean that fight that i escaped to fight on equal ground which i baited you to then you FOUR (ranger/theif/ele/engi) got wiped without downing a single one of us 4, 2 of which were pugs? (charr ele escaped). So yes, you managed to down an lvl11 mesmer pug, an 80 ranger pug, and my wife with the help of guards then promptly got crushed in center island with 4. I know its hard to count sometimes because mezzies are confusing but ducky joined our group to whine after bc the pug guardian laughed or something, which i dont do.
How did we have a spot for him to join us?
Oh yea bc theres 4 of us.
Did you not notice the tags?
2 of those guys i have never played with in my life lol.
They wanted to join to take camps!
Serious though, there was only 4 of us.

No, there were 6 of you and you controlled bay. The second fight was just north of the sentry thats north of champs camp…for kitten sake if you don’t remember the fight thats fine. But quit making kitten up, its just obnoxious.

Mayhem.1935:

What the? You may have done that to some [SE] people but i sure as hell never lost a 6v3 when i had numbers on my side. Talk about trolling. Anywho, i’m up for fights whenever i dont mind putting you dudes in the earth if your that anxious. Try not to run into towers if you are losing though (ducky something) its bad form. See you in a BL someplace nerds!

Nerds? Lol! First off, you are a guy whos lying about stuff trying to save face on a forum, two you are playing the game just like everyone else, and third you play dress up with your wife in the game (hopefully just the game and not IRL).

Anywho yes, you did lose a 6v3 (1 person did get away from the first fight, so technically wasn’t a complete wipe), the guy that switched to his guardian was on a lvl 11 mesmer for it which did provide a timely rally for my ranger. You even said good fight after I told the dude that he was douching out for laughing on my corpse after the second fight (tbh it might have been your wife that said it). First fight was outside bay near the gryphons, and the next was just north of ruins.

Ya know what smalls? You’re about as cute as Bunzy. Get beat in open field multiple times, deny it and say “1V1 BRAH”. lol

cyranstar.3425:

Gab Superstar.4059:

I guess what Oozo is trying to say is that if DH realizes that instead of sending 50 people to kill us they can just get 15 decent people together and try to roll us, they have just freed up 35 people who can go do something productive.

But I guess that’s why DH is barely beating IoJ and DR in a match up where we are horribly outnumbered.

Well there’s more to that story from a DH perspective. There have been talks of backing off WvW in order to keep our numbers down due to the potential of moving up a tier if we continue to push our numbers up. We recognize we have coverage issues during the morning and midday (and graveyard shift) and that our server is not as cohesive as it needs to be in order to gain a foothold in the higher tiers and stay there…for the moment.

We’ve gained a lot of fairweather players with the move to this tier and our success so the numbers are a lot more than we normally have and we’re a bit surprised as well by the turnout. But puggles and fairweather friends disappear quickly if we get moved up to last place in a higher tier which would find us coming right back here. It’s better to make a presence here and work on strength for now. One of the great things about DH is the ability to know our strengths and our weaknesses.

I’ve enjoyed the challenges of this tier. There are a lot of great players.

Trust me when I say this

you don’t have coverage issues at all

zastari.1730:

Transferred over and this tier is a kittening ghost town zzzzzzzz

50+ of IoJ and DH at Valley Keep =P

Mayhem.1935:

You did get swindled, again thats not me thats my wife lol. Notice the assaulter tag on that one, and the recruit or w/e on the screen gab provided. Also my tag says champ slayer and hers says none. All i really saw in that video is you 10v1 some commander, and you guys failing to catch a lone player. Grats! Again, if you want to fight me im down. I called you out before and got crickets in return. Your move.

Oozo, yes, yes we are. It’s hilarious and helps troll big groups as a duo.

Yup, thats all that happened on that video. You’re right. kitten that amount of under-analysis that goes into your posts HAS to be trolling, it just has to be. Otherwise I’d be worried that the same analysis goes into your everyday life, like driving or eating food. If I remember our first little meeting with you two it ended with you losing a 6v3, and then winning it whenever one of the 6 logged on their guardian and said the reason that we lost the second fight was because he was on his 80 this time…yea that was the reason we lost the 6v3 the second time. And the next time we met you two learned about the Zamboni of Death a couple of times.

Anyway, you were there plus caught on video for most of it. What was that lame quote from earlier? You shouldn’t fake the foot funk when you cross-dress? I dunno, something like that.

Ya know…this is exactly like talking to Bunzy, lol.

Mayhem.1935:

Gab Superstar.4059:

Mayhem.1935:

Gab Superstar.4059:

hyjaxxx.1584:

and to Gab who insinuates that 60 of us cant take anything. thats a fairly wide assumption as events change things happen. ive seen HUGE dr and IoJ zergs get destroyed by 10-12 DH’ers..so its all subjective.

It was just a statement regarding what happened tonight. I’m not saying a 60man DH zerg can’t take anything, they are fairly decent at taking doors down. But when they face some opposition they quickly bend.

60 DH actually came into our BL tonight and actually failed to take anything except the tower outside their spawn (with breakout). At the same time they tried to golem rush VK with another 50+ people. Needless to say that failed also.

I am 100% sure DH has some good commanders, but the way siege was being utilized by Darkhaven tonight was a sad, sad display of sloppiness. Golems being portaled in under cannons, trebs and catapults being placed in Mortar range, catapults being placed in spots where you can take them out with AC’s that can’t be countered… The list goes on.

I was there, skirmishing on the back end around the treb that was set up. Me and my 4 man specifically had a fight with AD and sent them packing. After that they joined up with the DR “zerg” to “win”. It happens on both sides is what im getting at. Every server fields small teams, every server has it’s zergs.

That’s funny. We had two of you downed before your zerg showed up to help. We have footage of that. We also have footage of you running away like a girl and waypointing as soon as you noticed your zerg wasn’t around to support you anymore.

Normally we wouldn’t really care, but you are kind of annoying on the forums.

Dynnen.6405:

Ain’t no fakin here brah, and you don’t gotta lie to kick it

Oh, and what treb were you skirmishing around? The one that you failed to defend against 4 people, when you had 20+?

What? No one downed me, and we had a straight up 4v4 and your guys got mashed there was no zerg there friend. Yea, you got the treb, after getting crushed over and over i guess it was bound to happen. 20+? yea i guess there were.. but most were down by the wall goofing off and doing whatever else zerglings do. I went down for supply, came up everyone is dead and a Mob of DR looking at me. Not my fault your zerg cant catch me /shrug

There was a warrior and someone else that was in downed state right before the zerg rushed us, all of us were up at that time. Pretty sure it wasn’t one of the twin mesmers. Also as for ‘getting crushed’ we hit it twice. Once where nearly all of us got away, and then the next time where we took it down. And if I recall there was that SE mesmer that did come up from supply. But you were with about 15 people coming back, not like you were solo, lol

hyjaxxx.1584:

lol the fun never stops with a couple of you folks. during half of Grave and the majority of the bankers shift darkhaven is barren..its a little better now that some pve’rs have come out to play since a win is guaranteed.

to the person who said why dont we run in smaller groups and spread people out. thats the sole purpose of GRIM we run 10 man skirmish teams 7 days a week for atleast 6 hours a day. taking camps,towers and the occasional fort when the opposition decides to lift skirt . we do this so larger forces can do their thing….so to answer the question of why they dont split, they dont have to.

and to Gab who insinuates that 60 of us cant take anything. thats a fairly wide assumption as events change things happen. ive seen HUGE dr and IoJ zergs get destroyed by 10-12 DH’ers..so its all subjective.

at the end of the day i think one thing is important to remember.

It aint cool to fake the funk , lets keep it real shall we.

Jaxx of GRIM.

GRIM? Haven’t seen ’em.

Ain’t no fakin here brah, and you don’t gotta lie to kick it

Whoever said that DH has almost no week time presence…lol

Dxnice.8647:

It indeed did happen to DH the past weeks, when we got outnumbered by Anvil Rock. If DH’s zerg is big you should see theirs. It is what it is, thats the unfortunate truth. It’s been happening since launch!

I can understand too that its frustrating and some come here to vent a bit. But to come here and trash a more populated wvw server with players who just want to game and have fun? With lines like “time to roll zergz wit me and my elite buddies yo”, thats just unwarranted and comical.

We’ve fought against Maguuma zergs (coordinated and playing for points), SBI (uncoordinated and playing for points), Ebay zergs (coordinated and willing to jump over the walls most of the time).

Zergs are needed to take large defensive points, and those of us in the ‘elite buddies guild’ understand this. But to go from fighting 1s and 2s, to 15s and 20s, to 30+, and then 50+ all in the course of an hour or so is a bit ridiculous. What we are wondering is why we don’t see more people getting together with a few friends and trying out roaming. Or even better get 10-15 of your friends and BUILD a group.

I remember the devs saying they were going to address this with the recent patch, and I forgot about it since I was so happy with the culling fix. Does anyone know if they said they were going to do it at a later patch or if they stopped looking at this?

Tots.3056:

IoJ you are taking the cake with this one.

OP WALLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
kitten

Prosecutor.1457:

Oozo.7856:

Prosecutor.1457:

Oozo.7856:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LDFHonqUXA

This is a movie with commentary from reset night. Thanks for the great 3way fight at hills to whoever was there. That was a lot of fun.

There is also a great display of the famed DH tactics at the end. Now, every server has zerglings that only know how to solve problems with numbers. DR has them too. Just a lot less of them.

Stop whining about numbers all the time. It’s getting boring that it’s the same excuse and/or reasoning you use. It’s war. Numbers are part of it. Get over it.

Another classic zergling response.

Let me clear something up for you. This is not war, this is a game. Games are meant to be challenging and fun. Coming after 15 people with 50+ is absolutely pathetic behavior.

The funny thing though is that it was still a challenging fight for those 50 as we downed quite a few of them before we were overwhelmed.

Best argument ever: Stop using being outnumbered 4 to 1 as an excuse for losing!

Only a zergling would say something that stupid.

Does this not classify as a simulation of war? You can always go 300 and be proud about it. You earn respect by doing it, not whining every time.

Oh? Wanna see a zerg going after 1 tower? Hypocrites at its finest.

Yup you’re right. Thats all ADQQSTY does is zerg. In fact thats how M Black (BSty thief that kitten everyone) got all of his 57,000+ kills. Yup, sitting on a ballista firing into zergs or SBing into enemy zergs, just zergin around and stuff. In fact I don’t think I’ve ever seen M Black do small man fighting, ever. Except when I first met him fighting a 5v1, and about a minute later finishing a 2v7 when a couple more enemies and I joined in. Other than that we just zerg.

P.S. We think we are a zerg when we got 15 people.
P.P.S. In case you missed it this post was very sarcastic, except for the meeting M Black part and the P.S. part
P.P.P.S. Gotta ask, do you think you and 13 guidies could hold out for 4 minutes against 50ish people, then a pair of ballistas for the last minute?

EDIT: I didn’t see Oozo’s post about your screenshot being asinine, and hes right. However I will provide a little more analysis of the screenshot. If you see our group near a zerg that means we are trying to flank an enemy zerg to support our fellow server mates. If you notice in your screenshot where we are in relation to the main group of DR there.
Where was ADQQSTY approaching from?
Why were we not in the middle of the zerg which would protect us from the almighty scary 5-man caped aoe damage?
If these questions don’t lead you to the answer maybe this will help!
Watch that video that Oozo posted, we were doing the same thing about half way through. Hammer and Anvil style tactics with the larger force holding the line and doing damage while we flanked and hammered them into the anvil. That fight wouldn’t have been a massacre without the larger force or ours (This was the hills keep fight prior to our ‘300’ style fight at the end)