Guild Wars 2

What’s the point of PvE? My char has a legendary and the exact look I want for her, so is there any point in any part of the game for me left?

If you have fun, that’s what it’s about.
(Granted, i don’t do PvE anymore :p)

Shouldn’t it already be in place to calculate friday’s reset?
Just sayin’

Deniara Devious.3948:

almost always huge 15-20 men VS zergs roaming on the map where you least expect and with the new “improved” culling that means I see just 1-2 enemies, until suddenly I see 15 more, which just ran over my dying corpse. But please don’t bad mouth other worlds. Even the lowest tier worlds surely have some amazing players, I know this for sure as I used to fight for Blacktide, which is now heading to the bottom tier.

15-20 people is a small group, leaning towards medium-sized, hardly a “huge zerg” even when running solo.
You should know this, especially being ex-Blacktide :p

The Slyfe.7231:

If I had to guess I’d say they’re jobbing to get this patch done. You could argue communicating with us is also part of their job (and I would agree), but I would say it would probably be one of the first things dropped when time becomes an issue.

I would be willing to hope for that if past experience hadn’t shown us differently, they’ve never been good at communicating with the WvW’ers and holy kitten the experience is SO different than in the beginning!
(It is actually – my guild went inactive. That’s it. Edit: Oh, wait and they added some severe bugs and/or lowered the WvW population cap, jsut a week ago.)

I can promise you i do not have a sub-par system

“Aggressively culled allied players” does not mean you can’t see people on the minimap anymore, and it only really should happen when you’re in large encounters or very large zergs – not when you’re running around on your own or in very small groups trying to find out where other people are, as people have reported doing.

Culling does not mean that suddenly you run around on your own, just thought i’d let you know.

Edit: Highfive to the 2 people above me

I wouldn’t mind the lack of response, if I could see work being done. However, this is not the case, and please don’t call this pitiful excuse of a culling patch, and the february patch “work being done”
While ANet clearly never expected WvW to become as big as it is (I think they’ve actually said that somewhere?), they should’ve caught on a bit faster and be a bit more considerate of the WvW crowd, either with small patches now and then, or frequent forum updates while they’re working on something bigger.

It’s the same as you could see with those months and months where the servers reset for a pve patch an hour after WvW reset, without any prewarning whatsoever, and so on…..

GottFaust.5297:

Genev.2450:

I hate to repeat myself 3 times, so i’ll just mention that there is plenty of proof that Something at least is wrong, we jsut don’t know exactly what the problem is and THAT is the wild speculation, not that something is wrong.

Yes, something clearly is wrong. I haven’t argued against that point. I’ve simply provided a logical explanation to the perceived issue in hopes to stem the tide of wild misconceptions. Were the issue the fault of A-Net soley (the culling change IS their fault while the transfers are the fault of the community), I would be calling for a fix. As it stands, the only fix for the long queues of heavily populated Wv3 centric servers is for people to transfer off or quit playing. Both of those eventualities have to be decided by the individual players. A-Net can’t easily do anything about them.

You are blindly ignoring the reports of other people though, the symptoms.
While some of them might be exagerated, not all of them are and in some cases are confirmed by other servers (case in point: TC) observing it and supporting their confusion/outrage.

Normal queues would be grumbled over, but there wouldn’t be this type of reaction – the game has been out for quite some time now and queues, while disliked, are accepted as a reality in the game.

The problem isn’t the queues themselves, its the actual Population (or lack thereof) inside While there’s a queue, and the lottery system the queue is, isntead of the claimed FIFO. (The same lottery system they acknowledged and said they were looknig at in september)

I hate to repeat myself 3 times, so i’ll just mention that there is plenty of proof that Something at least is wrong, we jsut don’t know exactly what the problem is and THAT is the wild speculation, not that something is wrong.

I haven’t seen the placeholder models yet, jsut see people randomly pop in and out and it seems to take longer to load groups and culling hits at smaller numbers.

Edit: So obviously voted worse.

Caelib.2497:

Maja.6372:

that´s not true in the official queue thread https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Queues-for-WvW-The-Official-Thread/first
they already made a statement that there is something wrong with the queue´s

Does anybody know why there is no such thread like this on the german forums ?
Looks like they dont have the problem with queues and nearly empty maps

That thread specifically states “We will definitely keep you updated when there is any news on our progress.” It’s been 5 months … no progress? No updates? This kind of neglect is unacceptable from a customer service perspective.

“Progress” is the new culling system, even though it works like kitten, and the message that they’re working on it… But yeah, they’re consistently bad at giving a kitten about WvW >_<

Wonderful, that means there’s an actual bug instead of an unanounced cap lowering?
Because you have to admit that Gates of Madness isn’t the only server around, and I hate to bring it up (again), but… TC outmanned with queue and people thoroughly checking out population on their lands.

You’re wrong about the culling system being the cause for seemingly deserted maps.

You’re forgetting the reports of TC being outmanned and having a queue, of people actively searching the maps or asking in chat that everybody present type 1 in map chat and then keeping in account that not everybody did it.

On top of that, culling simply doesn’t have that effect. Even when it was bugged like hell in the trial run, with people not seeing Any allies regardless of how many (or little) enemies there were, they were at least still aware that they were there. You can also see dots on the minimap if you go looking for people, etc.

24hour matchup system wasnt that great either, the server i was originally on was in t2 after the 24h matchups, only to freefall down to… I think they eventually ended up in t8 where they happily exclaimed that the matchups were even.

Every server has their tricks, when Blacktide was at the top there was rage about the Russians, VS is good at the points game so there’s rage about that, SFR and Deso got rage because of Americans…

Other people have mentioned the same and somebody reported a tiny improvement after asking people to leave WvW before logging off.

There is a population limit in WvW and people are already suspecting there is a bug which registers people as being online in wvw when they’re not, causing queue and population issues.

Remembering people who crashed wouldn’t be fair on everybody else, and it would probably also be abused, depending on how long the memory is.

It’s Phoebe Ascension. He always makes really long posts complaining about things everybody else has compeltely different experience with.

I’m hoping for something half-decent but assuming itll be “Too little too late”

seqkoya.3205:

Well whats made it worse for us that we’ve been given the server with Xaoc on, Gunnar’s Hold and once again, no glory thanks >.>
And how on earth does the team colour system work? We’ve been green and blue for like 3 weeks now and I need Red for 100% world completion lol.
This week is gonna be an insult to Xaoc, to see how much of a shambles we’ve become.

First server in the ranking is green, second blue, last red. Since you can go down several places in ranking though, it’s possible not to see a colour for quite some times even during freefall.

Way ahead of you, though i do admit neither badges nor complete map were required by the first time i proper changed server.

Also, i switched to a server which was… losing according to rumours?! The kitten

Personally, I wouldnt feel like a hero joining SoS…

The population of GH seemed kitten glad to see the hardcores of INT go and held quite a (senseless) grudge for some time.

Good luck, Xaoc!

Deniara, check out my earlier post

The pre-warning was good.
With most of our guild being on break and our server emptying out, the guild was spread out between our previous server (the inactive ones) and some others.
The warning gave us the few days we need to draw back together on 1 server, even people who don’t really play anymore put in some effort to log on and switch server, because the game is no subscription so it’s easy to come back some time if people feel like it…

1-2 days wouldn’t have been enough for that, not even for me who might not be proper active atm, but still paying attention to things, since i’m in the middle of moving appartments and uni starting again in a few days.

What i do find silly about the announcement is the mass recruiting frenzy it sparked.

No, i have no interest in SoS. Really. Stop spamming every single thread with it.
In this thread’s case, repeatedly.

Jayne.9251:

Genev.2450:

I tried doing a wvw (non forum) drinking game once.
Each time i killed somebody, got a medal and for every badge i got i drank.
I had to loosen up the rules a bit >_<

Wow your server is going to be wasted quickly lol … You managed to do rule 1 and 3 in one single sentence.

Drink up Genew’s server!

I’m jsut that good….
(See what i did there? :p)

But WvW drinking games are always fun, regardless of forum or game version
Well, to be fair, i think it’s a drinking game thing…

I tried doing a wvw (non forum) drinking game once.
Each time i killed somebody, got a medal and for every badge i got i drank.
I had to loosen up the rules a bit >_<

Remember there is a EU Shiverpeaks as well, might clarify which Shiverpeaks you mean in the title, i clicked this being curious about one of my old opponents

It was fun playing with you and the other WvW guilds, Alv E

Project Blacktide worked out wonderfully, we dominated for quite a long time and had an amazing group of guilds allied, and then people got bored. As they quit the game or went on break (like myself – I’ve only just gotten back to the game, would’ve come back a week earlier but had internet issues), the Project died a peaceful death.

Guilds went back to their original servers or to play with friends, after what i hope was a lovely time on Blacktide, and if i ever see any of the Project Blacktide guilds on the same or opposite servers, i’ll be sure to give them a wave.

I’m no longer on Blacktide either (and no, i didn’t return to my original server) but wish the people staying there, and the people who have gone to other servers than where i’m now, the best.

Nobody claimed Project Blacktide would last forever

Thank you for keeping everybody updated, this thread was always fun to read

It was lovely playing with you guys, good luck wherever you go and whatever you do!

http://mos.millenium.org/matchups

Check the tabs at the top for selecting whether you want NA or EU

Most of us are either on break or inactive atm, there was some enthousiasm towards DFUW in december, but the beta still isn’t playable yet so dunno how that’ll turn out.
Couple of us are starting to return from the holidays break, but not enough to form a proper group it looks like. Pity, need to show off my flowery bow, haven’t ran with it that often in WvW yet

Personally I’ve been on break for a while due to first burnout and then holidays (which were amazing btw, hope yours were too!) and am now slowly thinking of coming back, not much seems to be happening yet though, and due to RL madness (the good kind), i won’t be able to play much in the following weeks either.

And you?

PS: Remember, when you hold the cookies…. Sharing is caring.

Suddenly, Desolation’s looking interesting. :o
(I kid, btw, not planning on moving anywhere anytime soon… Though those cookies ARE looking good)

It does sound like they’re just sore losers, sorry to say
Hacks and exploits are mostly used to get inside keeps and towers, and sometimes bug them out.

I haven’t heard about combat ones, and you’d think that’s something people would also roar massively over if there was anything valid there. The only thing you hear really is perma-stealth due to culling, and that’s a “feature” :p

/cough
Im Blacktide
/cough
:p

Thanks for the invite, still!

Lol, don’t mean it like that at all.

While I’m a fairly decent spotter, those are pretty common, and I’m a longbow Ranger so people wouldn’t gain That much from having me around (except a +1! Who listens and obeys!) :p
It was more in contrast to that I’m not willing to leave my guild/apply to another in order to run with an organised group.

Better?

I’m currently considering hunting down a group of people to play with once or twice, since CIR is fairly inactive atm and I’m bored. (Doesn’t mean I’m leaving CIR, they’re stuck with me :p But I would be willing to join somebody’s TS and follow their commander /shrug)
Not 100% sure though, also because currently i’m jsut having a few days break inbetween RL madness.

Ahhh, I missed that one, fair enough, deleted the post.

Wouldn’t have surprised me if he had, though, considering previous posts.

Actually, most of the server was on break already last week, this week some people, but not everybody, has come back apparently since when i logged on 15 mins ago we were leading in points but i know quite a few people who are still “cba” and looking at dfuw and getting ready for the holidays.

Unlike RUIN about BT, we also didnt say for weeks how we were looking forward to SFR getting to T1, except maybe RG here and there, and they’re fighting np.

Then you should have a long vid of you winning, no? Of course the bits where you do get your kitten kicked conveniently cut out

Then you post a vid of it? Nobody posts vids of them losing, they’re boring.

You got all that (good for you!) and are still complaining, i have absolutely no reason to actually be nice to you. I’m just kinda expecting more of the same on the forums as last time, regardless of the actual score.

VS is always nice though, When are you guys updating the joy of wvw gifs?

Edit: I’m injured in RL and am unable to do much else than stay at home, it makes me a rather grumpy person and the forums are always so useful for taking it out on people.
Doesn’t make SFR less whiny though.

Double edit: I was also wondering how long it would take somebody to point out how much i post, actually took longer than i expected it to take.

Ah yes, was wondering how long it would take for the usual suspects to come out to play.
Still believe you guys beat us primetime last time? So cute.

Enjoy your glorious victory over us, you’re sure beating the evil monster BT there!

SFR has never been short of forum warriors.
Though the usual suspects are absent so far :p

Nobody serious in this tier will have any problems with nightcapping and the game being 24/7 or anything, it’s simply an amusing waiting game of “How long will they stay after they win” and their reasoning seems to be the same as RUIN’s “We beat US, let’s beat EU even though there’s no other large American communities there to put up a fight”.

While we do have our Russian alarmclockers and VS has a solid night shift, neither are comparable

But, as i said, that’s how the game is played. Doesn’t make it less funny.

I saw dkr in force in heart of the mist for the reset, so maybe they just took a break?
No idea which lands they were playing in though.
xxx has transfered away due to t1 being too zergy.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Blacktide-Vizunah-Square-Seafarer-s-Rest/first for the new discussion.

CIR, XT and SFRJ were in BT Borderlands
CIR was only in small numbers though and Blacktide’s usual playstyle (guilds work together but don’t really stick together) doesn’t always lend itself well to countering “MOVE ALL THE PLAYERS TOGETHER!” zergs.

Though I’m sure we’d have had more success if it wasn’t for the culling, deleted the vids i made because they were useless (unless people want to see a compilation of deaths, set to the tune “I hope you die”), but when i was rewatching them it was kinda like… Yeah, dem invisible enemies…
And from TS it sounded like i was actually not that badly off there.

I gave up around 2h30 am

Welcome to reset… dat culling, always extra bad the first night /sigh

Thank you, appreciate the sympathy.
(Lalala it’s not pity, it’s not pity….)

Vizunah is hardly a tyrant, look at how BT managed to stay on top for a few weeks
They’re also great fun to fight, made an awesome thread with gifs and have done quite a lot of fun grouping with BT members and chatting/respecting duels etc

Fighting has been fair against them, or did you forget you transfered to BT because it was the superserver of the month?

Any type of character progression could only be fluff otherwise the people who don’t like WvW will feel forced to do WvW, and there will be an increasingly big gap between new players and vets.

Dungeon/fractal unlocks – no thanks, it’s already annoying that there are chains in pve zones to open dungeons instead of them jsut being open.

I’m all for loot, fluff ranks and skins though.