Guild Wars 2

MF… I don’t really know what to say about this. I’m not fussed about people as long as they play well. I am one to get annoyed about jerks that think they can play and spend the fights eating dirt. If they’re new it’s fine as normally they say so and I can help.

I myself run around with no armour, do I get rewards for limping myself?
This is a play choice as I play dungeons a lot so know ins and outs. Fractals are fun but got annoyed when I couldn’t get ascended reliably.

MF isn’t too much of problem for me but better to just rid it all together and have proper loot tables so this is not needed.

Not sure gimping = more rewards as I got 3 charged cores in one CoE run. Maybe there’s truth? (Yes I was Frakking estatic, I’m not on a legendary so gave em away)

Is it always like this?

When people are imo justifiably annoyed there’s little response as of now.
I want to understand what other barriers are involved, why the reasons to not implement cross region and why it isn’t feasible the whole reason not dumbed down. Or if it might be possible in the future or the problems for putting it in.

I’d like more frequent responses on this and not having this just brushed under the rug.

Well apparently WvW > Community then.

Why not straight up tell us about the region problems ages ago instead of now?

If WvW was disabled I’d be happy but you’ll get massive QQ from the WvW pro’s. Community from my eyes doesn’t seem very important to them but it was important to me, now it just seems like a wasted everyone’s time setting up the Union Thread over at PhP.

Yea, the any world part was the big mistake.

I’ve been crippled trying to help others, I am lucky that I have others to rely on for spreading the help over at NA but it’s very heartening to not able to assist personally aside from sending over 250stacks of tiered mats via mail…

So thanks but no thanks I won’t lie down and be stepped upon.
If anyone with relevant experience with networking etc I would be interested about the ideas that could be implemented to make this work.

Anet I feel is a good company but the way things are handled really tarnishes the whole company outlook.

Berelious.3290:

Amulrei.4973:

Medarr.7193:

For those of you whining about this… do you have any idea how much it costs to keep servers synced between continents? No you dont its readily apperant from your posting. You also dont seem to realise its not simply a matter of sending the data from one data center to the other, not do you seem to realise the issues with global routing, peering of tier 3 networks, BGP and several other issues that crop up when you try to do this globally. Ya all sound like spoiled kids. wha wha I could do this in GW1.. well GW1 isnt GW2 you assume they work the same network wise but they dont.

So… AN completely changed their story on how guesting would work AFTER taking our money (while leaving the original statements still up on their FAQ and website for extra facepalm points) but yet we are the “spoiled kids” for not lapping it up?

I don’t know if I should mock or pity you.

I see no break in promises on this. At no point did ANet say that guesting would be available between European and American servers, just that guesting would be an available option. It may be nitpicking on specifics, but at no point did they go into exact details on exactly what guesting would entail.

I think this is what people are annoyed about. During progress I don’t like the fact we were given no details on guesting until now. I do not have the time to organise a movement of 300 in the time frame in my current situation.

Yes I can accept this however do not like that I was kept in the dark about any details. They knew guesting was being implemented and would be done successfully, why couldn’t they provide at least some information prior to the release.

^ Another interesting prospect.

I still don’t understand why it’s a huge task to implement a thing.

Datacentres are separate surely there’s a bridge between the two allowing communication. I am not saying there are no complications about implementing as they would have done it already. What I don’t understand is the huge oversight that having two centres would stop region play and this was strongly implied on the box. It’s kinda of a lame excuse if you actually are being told it after waiting for ages.

Oversight + /communication = mess currently happening, not just “guesting”

An honest answer would have better. Easier to be blunt and honest, also looks better than hiding in the dark. Now people are kinda distrusting like me.

I used to think that this game was: Yay, a game where I get rewarded for helping people and not being a leet jerk. So many changes have just steered me away, fractals have made me kitteny, problems that haven’t been addressed made me more kitteny, now guesting is continuing to make me more kitteny.

It’s made me not bother helping people anymore. I hardly ever run AC story for new folks now or send out random free stuff for lowbies.

Things like this has just made me into a disgusting person right now that I may just take a big break from this.

Hey it’s alright though, I don’t really matter I’m just another number, statistic #6849.
That’s what I feel like, what I do doesn’t matter anymore. People leave it doesn’t matter anymore. If I truly go there’s always someone to replace me as I’m not someone special or valued.

I am not trolling or QQing. This is what all these little things have made me feel these past few weeks/months. I really want to enjoy this game again but I can’t, not really, not to my full extent when major issues exist.

From past Anet experience I was excited that this game was going to released all the manifesto ideals were great as it matched my own. Was it just marketing and have you left it and buried it six feet under?

So yea, I don’t want to be a kitteny poster anymore. I don’t like it but when these sorts of things come up time and time again it saddest me so much. You said you would build upon past experiences. Have you learnt much for communication?

@Ronah: I’d be up for that. Merging all servers, I have played on NA servers and there is no lag or issues that I know of.

The mistake was keeping the centres separate and then not telling us about certain restrictions… I thought this would be the case, waited for an official answer, was correct and got helically wound around and attached to an object.

Same as everyone else, Na/ Eu? I won’t bother deciding now as there’s not much point, I lose either way. GG.

‘Some’ and ‘Disappointed’: very understated words.

@Crush if the guild member influence scaling works as it would normally do you’ll help the member on the guesting server as it scales with member present in the event.

Poster note: I wonder if I’m going to get my first infraction for my now spiteful sounding posts now. This is a topic I feel very strongly about.

Also is there/ was there any reason WHY there was NO TRANSPARENCEY for these sorts of implementations?

I really am at HUGE loss here to see how providing some sort of communication between the community would negatively impact the Team. I for one would be very appreciative of that sort of information.

I’m not on about if someone spoke of hopes of implementing X and X wasn’t involved and mass QQ. I love hearing about what you folks hope to implement and plans on future projects it’s a lot of fun when developers do it. It’s not like you are saying you are going to implement X, as long as it’s not promises it’s fine!

Say if X couldn’t be featured tell them WHY.

I really don’t understand the barrier between features → team → community.
We have yet to see some proper information beforehand about big features such as guesting sure we find out now but we would have appreciated new say 1/2 weeks before this official announcement.

If possible, can anyone elaborate WHY we don’t hear about things that we look forward to but are kept in a dark box only be let out when it’s completely finished and have a small window about deciding what to do?

Is it some sort of red tape stopping you?

@Helequin. No way that I’m frakking sorry about starting it. It’s brought in some amazing people that have helped me through the game andlife in general. It’s made me want to help people MORE than I normally in do ALL OF LIFE.

I will continue to keep in contact with the amazing people but I too feel that my money maybe saved for mountain biking or more of my time being that doctor that I want to be.

There maybe not much we can do about it but we sure don’t have to be happy about it. Hope they learn from this and stick to their 2013 beliefs stated in that preview…

I understand that and we have condensed our regions. Residing in TC, SoR, IoJ NA and AG, GH in EU.

While am glad that WvW ’pro’s’ can no longer jump ship after things hit the fan. While I do enjoy competitive play I for one value community and selfless players over everything else. It used to be like that when the game initially launch now not so much and we get a huge divide that is justifiableto be upset about.

Stopping ’pro’s’ messing up server population is a brilliant thing!
The guesting limitation is a massive slap in the face for creating a strong community…

@Helequin:

I’m serious, I’d PAY if that sort of implementation was added. It would make me a LOT more happier than I am. Meh, a sub for gaming cross region. I’d do it.

Agreed I’m not trolling I would really wait if the true guesting was being implemented!

Yep introducing things in stages is a good thing as it lets people recognise that they are doing SOMETHING about it.

I think also the main reason for the raging was the lack of communication between players, not living up to the 2013 Communication Award at this point in time.

I do also think that a longer time before a total lockdown would be good. Less than 2 weeks isn’t really a long time to decide. I truly hoped that they told us A LOT sooner before official announcement….

Yep this has driven A HUGE FRAKKING SPIKE b/w community. I thought the game had visions about a whole game community no matter where you were. Guess I was wrong.

I would like the true player envisioned Guesting please…
… Yes I’ll hold.

The big thing for me was the total lack of communication. I asked about the progress months back and was told to patiently wait. I did that. I asked about the progress a few weeks back and was told to patiently wait. I did that.

Now we get it and it’s what I feared, why couldn’t we get a progress report about restrictions etc.? Working on communicating with the players? Sorry but you haven’t managed it yet.

Looks like there wasn’t much point in setting up Operation: Union thread. Sure we can still help but it will never be effective and has really been crippling to us as a whole.

These sorts of things continue to divide the community and by the response these sort of features are pretty important for the many social players.

Good job on finally getting it implemented however a NA/EU bridge will be greatly welcomed.

It seems to me the many players annoyed by the particular result is because of the way the feature was worded and effectively feel lied to. ‘Anywhere, any world’ is definitely not the case.

Heck I would pay for the extra costs if my data was present on both centres just to be able to game with NA buddies.

Alas, still making Lemonade but it still tastes pretty bitter to me.

Hey folks, Glitch here. first of all I want to give my absolute thanks to the awesome people here that have made this little community corner possible.

I’ll probably have a bit less of a presence over here and quite possibly in game than I already do too. With the recent news about guesting I’m going to take some time out and blow off some steam. I’m definitely not angry about the current situation as they have done a great job so far, however I am just chipped off with the lack of communication of progresses with important things such as guesting. Currently the little frequent in-game things that have been happening to me lately have ticked me off and now the guesting situation has rained on my parade.

The important people will still be here though and that’s what matters.
Keep making the community a good one, no matter how divided.

Glitch

^ Yea, hopefully.

I for one am disappointed. They were working on guesting however why couldn’t we have any updates on these types of things. It’s unfortunate, given a lot more notice I could organised something just that it’s only a short 2 or so weeks away.

There wasn’t any server specificity in the orignal Gw right? Like OP said we were told that we could guest in any server, yes the indication of not being to overflow with NA lead to me thinking and I am now proven right. Thing is if they weren’t able to implement such things why not SAY so?

1000000000000000000% support.

So I can’t even join my NA buddies now? I was kind of happy that guesting would finally be implemented but it’s region specific. Good job on getting guesting in, hope they do something about the region ties.

This was the thing I was afraid of. There was a serious lack of communication which many players, myself included thought it was a very important feature. We’re not told of the current situation, no progress reports etc. Just this, now I’m tied with sticking to either a NA or EU region.

This seriously is a suckerpunch makes most of my efforts moot now.

If anyone could help me understand the arrangements in Gw1 about server choices etc that would be greatly appreciated as I only played a little bit of Gw.

Good job on the guesting but I’m not very happy about the lack of communication allowing me to plan way beforehand.

This thing is such a pain to keep track of…

But it is worth it!

I say find some like minded people to run it.

If you need any help hop over to Operation: Union, there’s always people willing to help! Just ask for some help there, their ideals are to help others without fear of discrimination or subject to any sort of leetism.

Lots of people either on the EU or NA flipside. Why not ask over there?

Welcome to all the new folks!

Second about having a look on the website.

Thanks to all the people for their dedication and making this what it is.

Hey Kombinerka!

I know there are a few on FS but not many. There’s a lot of us on SoR, ET, EB, GH, IoJ.

I’d say try and muscle in on Gunnar’s we got a lot of lovely people there. Quite a few newer folks there that would really appreciate a helping hand.

I’m on Aurora but I’m not as active as I would like to be but I’m on mainly Fri to Sun.
It’s mainly got my bro and rl friends there. We ain’t as active compared to some due to being in Uni or School.

Phew! I thought this would be another beg thread. Glad it ain’t!

Back on topic I currently ain’t bothering for legendary or exotics for that matter. I am currently sitting on 40g on my main. With a few gold on low lvl alts.

I say speed running AC and CoF is easy and profitable. ACspeed can take 15/30 mins. If you’re their for cash and that’s it. I enjoy dungeons and been running ever since lvl 27. I had a lot of tokens for AC, few thousand and spent them on buying weapons and putting them in the Forge. Makes at least another gold on top of the runs.

I don’t do anything special as I play pretty casually only Friday and Weekends for 1/3 hours. Bit late to make money on Giant gifts I made a lot of gold from selling presents for 3.50s each and now made a few gold on glue and stuff selling for nearly 1s each.

I have just over 1k achieves never go out of my way to do stuff, sometimes don’t bother with dailies.

Good luck for mats it’s sometimes easier to farm for money and buy mats directly.

I kinda would like to know too.

I ran AC P2 twice in a row. I got hit with DR on the tokens as expected but still got the full 26 silver reward on completion… :L

First time P2: 60 tokens, 26s
Second time 2: 20 tokens, 26s

I’m pretty sure that shouldn’t be happening…

^ Kit: The icky sweetness with you two I have to take regular insulin shots!
On a serious note: Great resolution for G. Just remember to act surprised!), yes we know you’re a bloodhound; you’ll be trying your best to find out how it’s gonna happen I say!

It’ll be great whenever it’ll happen I’m sure of that.

Welcome awesome people managed to catch a few on today. Currently integrating then back on later!

Hey lovely people stupid idiot here!

Well the Legion of Honour was more of a compromise as I don’t think people have the will to sort through 27pages.

It acts more of a HUB anyway if you need more for dungeons, advice or an exploring buddy.

We’re all waiting for the day of guesting where we can run around in a huge zerg and mess up peoples frame rates.

Holy Frak Deffy!

You really are having a lol of griefing directed at you!
I genuinely am pretty sorry and appalled by what you mentioned.

I myself run a control set up and would try to help, however with my very casual game time won’t be the consistent patient mentor you would need. I would give up my Sat dungeon time if you are interested however sessions will only be weekly. This also won’t solve your thing of wanting a consistent exploring buddy either.

Dang it want guesting in so badly. I’d be all over this sort of stuff at least trying to help.

Wow are people never judged due to who they are anymore?
I think I know you were subjected to as I ’ve been through similar things like that.

Being a parent is an amazing thing, I’m proud of mine that they’ve given me so much that they never had as kids. (My family used to scrape by but my Dad used his brain to get a better life for us when he was a kid. Get a good job and get out of there.)

People that talk Frak about people with children or whatever aren’t fit for parenting anyway.

People should be judged by actions and what defines them. Not by what they are, and I know you’re a pretty great person.

(Just pray the team on guesting start churning their gears faster.)

Still good spirits here!

I too hope everyone ha a good New Year!
Resolution… Be Doctor. Nuff said.
Try hardest to be a good person.
To keep thanking the awesome folks at Union everyday and hope it continues to grow.

I also like to thank the folks that have taken an increasing interest in Union!

Just like to have a warm welcome to the awesome newer folks.

So in Chat I was mentioned as the Leader, I ain’t really. I’m not someone special. While extremely flattering I’m not I’m just a kid. The people that make Union so welcoming and what it is are all down to those people. I have nothing to do with it, you and them are what make Union great.

So thank you to everyone and enjoy the rest of Boxing Day with friends and family.
Thank you to those people that make Union great and what it is now.

Glitch

Welcome all you awesome folks!

Merry Christmas to you all!!!
Merry Trollmas to you all as it is if I can get on.

Hey Nos!

Sea Of Sorrows. I know we have a few here but it’s very hard to keep track of all these awesome people.

Sanctum Of Rall has players in the Oceanic Time Zone. I know Akamon is on SoR and will be more than willing. That is if you don’t mind transferring.

An invite will be sent by a more competent person than me. Just ask in map chat and/or send a whisper to any folks you see on SoS. All you gotta do is ask and you’ll get helped as best as you can.

@Deb hope you’re all good and well!!! Don’t worry we’ll be waiting till you get back.

@Vlawde I’m not sure. I got rid of English as fast as possible! I’m better at explaining things using equations. :P I’m a simple kid and don’t see the point of using big words when simple ones will do.

Again welcome the new folks! It’s hard to find a bunch of nicer and helpful folks than this lot.

+100 Approval

I for one think it would be pretty cool and would definitely game as one. You have said that the developers have changed their prospects on Dwarves so it could be very plausible.

Same I’d love to see the Dwarven race.

Lol I don’t mind Kit. I LOVE MATHS!

Also tell G to check his mail in game. :P

Welcome all you folks! There’s quite a few people that can help you out here. I can get on today and catch up on W.D.

Sidenote: Maths is cool ain’t it.

Thank you Mr. Vaughn for your responses. I understand that you only can provide general information from your perspective but I am extremely grateful for the multiple responses as supposed to a single post.

I’m sure this is pushing it but is there any possible way to obtain some further information from a member involved in implementing Guesting to post on this thread?
I don’t think that would be likely but I would be really really thankful if it happened.

Thank you Mr. Vaughn and hope you have a very good Christmas.

Yay! Some official response thank you Mr. Vaughn!!! The story content stuff you and your team make are really cool, hope there’s more to come.

At least it’s good it hasn’t been forgotten. However are we able to get a general time frame such as X months time? Or some sort of hopeful estimate, I know that it would put me and others at rest instead of when it’s ready. I was fine when waiting for the awesome game but Guesting was in BWE and disabled so am wondering why that was the case?

Also there are some speculations that Guesting maybe region restricted and not region-free? I hope that’s not the case as many from Operation: Union will be pretty sad.

Thanks for the official response and hope you continue making this game awesome!
If I get some of those questions answered I’ll be a happy kid. I wonder if someone from the guesting team side can answer these?

Bump. I haven’t seen a detailed answer on all the good questions in this thread.

GUESTING!

Will always welcome:

More armour designs
More variety in DE’s.
More dungeons rewarding smart play and better teamwork. With more interesting scenarios e.g include puzzles or riddles to solve too instead of mindless combat.

This is getting pretty tedious. I’d rather have them focus completely on fixing bugs and getting the features that weren’t in game as quickly as possible. Sure the new stuff is nice but I feel like the mentioned features may just be swept under the rug. Lack of eta and updates on oncoming features gripe me.

^

@wildcode

Kit summed it all up very nicely. The ‘guild’ was spawned as many folks said they could not simply keep up with the influx of posts from this thread.

You can either try again and stick with it or I recommend that you could find a guild that is concentrated on your server only to definitely find others to explore with.

It is a very family oriented thing where we can have a place to hang out. There is a more organised structure now however it is for social players so I tend to not keep it as structured as serious.

I do agree the lack of guesting is hitting this pretty hard but we’ll still continue to grow and do our best with what we have. I thought at most we would have guesting 2 months after release but Anet thought it would be better to carry on and have Server WvW hopping and introduce stupid Fractals. This I find annoying, with all this emphasis on social and camaraderie it’s not even their, thing is they had it on the BW still don’t know why it was there if it had problems.

I come back again to more replies…

Welcome more folks!

As akamon said there are some pretty good people that are up to date with invites. Over hear there are more awesome folks to talk to.

Lol funny Vlawde just posted the link /15 :P

Op: Union is pretty helpful full of some cool folks that can help you with any questions or whatever so I third that.

So I come back in about a day…

Welcome you awesome people, hope you’re enjoying Winters Day!

There’s a lot of cool people that’ll be more than happy to help you out.

^ This in dungeons found a lot of folks perceive you as dumb if you don’t have a certain set of skills or whatever. This is codswollop as it’s all about how you USE your skills and what type of player you are. I say player skills>skillset/build.

You can run explores w/o armour in any dungeon and never go down. I do this sometimes to show players that’s it ain’t really about a build or whatever but how you as a player approach and execute a plan.

@OP you as a player are not solely responsible for the other players. Sure you can keep an eye out for other players as when to apply books etc. You should never feel you are responsible for everyone. I think that may lead to panic, you do not have to use your skills. Some skills maybe situational but helpful when it may arise.

Just remember you ain’t responsible for the entire players well being. You don’t have sole responsibility for everyone.

If anyone needs help with dungeons I’m happy to help. On the EU flipside though on Fri to Sun.

However if you want to run dungeons there’s some awesome folks that will help you regardless over at Operation: Union.

Hey folks!

Sorry but Xcell is favourited due to having an awesome server!

There’s lots that are always helping and will lend a hand if you just ask.

Xcell I too am on AG and on normally Fri to Sun. I’d be happy to help as I’ve also got alts to run with so I won’t be strolling through things with my 80.

Also EU folks if you want to do a dungeon give me a shout! I mainly run AC and CM but will help with others.

Lol Gilo has 1200th post!

Heads up Union: http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Upcoming_changes_and_features

The Prophecies once told this, has the day finally come where we will not stand apart but together?

FRAKOMGHFHSIFBAIRBCISICBWIXBS!!!!!!!!

Most go for a glass cannon type build. If you are mainly PvE this will do perfectly from the information given to me by ranger players. I don’t really have a comment, more competent ranger player please jump in!

As for pets bears are very good as they have high HP and can tank for you in PvE.

As for finding people to game with. Check out Operation: Union, there are a lot of very helpful and awesome people over there. The people there have helped me a tonne!

It maybe slightly tricky to find some people on your server, however if you are NA I recommend Ilse of Janthir, Sanctum of Rall, Tarnished Coast as there are a good many people those server on Union. For EU Gunnar’s Hold or Aurora Glade.

Pretty good community, I’d say just a notch under the GW1 community but awesome none the less.

The game community has allowed to meet a lot of awesome people that I really can’t see myself without now!

Thanks G and Noppy.

Welcome Molkien!!!

If you stayed to read the whole thread it would take you a while…
Glad that you decided to drop in and say hi!

Over at our forums there will be some further discussion on a guild comms. All member input is welcome!

What book was it? I recently finally got round to finishing off the Power of 5 and Eragon’s inheritance cycle. I stopped reading as much as I would like due to running out of books in read in our house.

Core Ideals: The Union was founded as a means where members could find other players on their server to game with. Union also heavily focuses on helping fellow players that be exploring or dungeons.However I did not intend this to be where everything was handed to those that came here. (I do not have the time, and personally feel that a person is more deserving if they seek aid themselves)

As you can see the thread escalated very quickly that it became impossible for a player to sift through the thread in the hopes of meeting others. Thus The Legion was born. Members could organise gatherings and seek advice more easily.

With this I still think that a person would have to learn to ask and seek help themselves. All I asked in return was to show others the same kindness that was shown onto them.
You only have to ask if you need help. If you ask we will be there, if you ask you will receive.

I think I owe Orpheus a public apology as after reading his posts several times I indeed got the wrong end of the stick. I thought he wanted a more active and hardcore dungeon activity. As we are in fact the opposite. I would like to offer my apologies for any misdirected ill

However I myself am still not sure about Orpheus’ mindset as we are very charitable people, where we are indeed a ‘charity’ as we give our time, advice and assistance to those that ask for such. A kind heart is always welcome but we do expect those ‘commitments’ to a certain degree.