Guild Wars 2

I kinda agree. The wind up on the 3 and the way it’s so finicky with positioning is the problem with scepter. It feels like it’s a 30degree cone that it actually works in.

GW2 has probably the crispest mechanics of any mmo on the current market.

If a animation bothers you that much play something else. Are you going to write FROM Software now and tell them the Zweihanders heavy animation is too slow in dark souls 2?

Also 4 gigs of ram is not enough for modern gaming. 8-16 gigs is the new standard for the few years at least.

1. I came back to gw2 about 1 month ago.
2. I decided to make a necro.
3. Hit level 37 or so with scrolls and some map completion.
4. Realized exactly how they had changed traits.
5. Lost all motivation to level.

That trait unlocking is the worst, dumb, shortsighted system I ’ve seen in a mmo in a long time.

It’s a bad system, period, fullstop. I have no desire to level anything up knowing I’ll have to unlock every trait seperately.

Anet seems to have the classic problem of corporations…………..nobody will tell the boss his ideas suck.

I’ve been looking for when exactly the double xp weekend starts. Midnight Friday? Friday afternoon? Saturday morning?

I just have a necro with a birthday booster so I wanted to make the most of it. Thanks in advance.

Gokil.2543:

Godmoney.2048:

Fay.2357:

Godmoney.2048:

1. I post some numbers from the wiki.

Ok, this is good so far.

2. You tell me that the information is very old.

Also good.

Godmoney.2048:

3. I say well that’s too bad.

Ah, this is where you went wrong. You didn’t say ’that’s too bad’, you decided to decry the failing state of the game based on an out of date table from the wiki.

Godmoney.2048:

4. You then tell me that you’re responsible for the numbers and how dare I criticize the numbers.

Not quite. I then tell you that I’m responsible for the numbers, and if having incorrect numbers offends you so much, I’ll happily spend another 3 hours updating them I get paid for it.

Godmoney.2048:

WOW, my mind is blown.

I feel bad for you.

Godmoney.2048:

You should listen to your doctor.

I generally do.

Jesus Christ you sound so sad and lonely. There’s nothing more to say.

Anyways I was never even addressing you.

Have a good day. Try to get outside and get a walk in.

You’re on the fast lane for a ban friend. Keep up the attitude.

“Never argue with an idiot.
They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.”
~George Carlin

Fay.2357:

Godmoney.2048:

1. I post some numbers from the wiki.

Ok, this is good so far.

2. You tell me that the information is very old.

Also good.

Godmoney.2048:

3. I say well that’s too bad.

Ah, this is where you went wrong. You didn’t say ’that’s too bad’, you decided to decry the failing state of the game based on an out of date table from the wiki.

Godmoney.2048:

4. You then tell me that you’re responsible for the numbers and how dare I criticize the numbers.

Not quite. I then tell you that I’m responsible for the numbers, and if having incorrect numbers offends you so much, I’ll happily spend another 3 hours updating them I get paid for it.

Godmoney.2048:

WOW, my mind is blown.

I feel bad for you.

Godmoney.2048:

You should listen to your doctor.

I generally do.

Jesus Christ you sound so sad and lonely. There’s nothing more to say.

Anyways I was never even addressing you.

Have a good day. Try to get outside and get a walk in.

Fay.2357:

Godmoney.2048:

Fay.2357:

Godmoney.2048:

Short answer NO. Long answer NO.

Phant builds really don’t want to shatter unless absolutely forced to because your dps/pressure will immediately stop dead in it’s tracks. Shatter builds want to shatter as much as possible which makes your phants often get only a single attack off.

Very different mentalities.

Also phantasmal Haste is a horrible trait generally speaking. From the wiki………
Phantasmal Berserker 7.0s 6.2s
Phantasmal Defender 4.6s 4.2s
Phantasmal Disenchanter kitten 4.0s
Phantasmal Duelist 7.6s 6.6s
Phantasmal Mage 7.8s 6.6s
Phantasmal Swordsman kitten 4.0s
Phantasmal Warden 14.2s 14.2s (bugged)
Phantasmal Warlock 6.9s 5.8s

That’s extremely old info, very inaccurate.

What a shame then that the game has fallen into such disrepair.

I’m not sure what you’re saying. The wiki is maintained by players, not Anet. This particular group of information is incredibly labor intensive to determine to any reasonable measure of accuracy. Those numbers you posted were obtained by me. It probably took me 2-3 hours of recording and frame by frame analysis to get them. If you want to pay me for my time, I’ll be happy to do it again.

Wait a second. Let me get this straight. My mind is blown right now.

1. I post some numbers from the wiki.
2. You tell me that the information is very old.
3. I say well that’s too bad.
4. You then tell me that you’re responsible for the numbers and how dare I criticize the numbers.

WOW, my mind is blown.

You should listen to your doctor.

Fay.2357:

Godmoney.2048:

Short answer NO. Long answer NO.

Phant builds really don’t want to shatter unless absolutely forced to because your dps/pressure will immediately stop dead in it’s tracks. Shatter builds want to shatter as much as possible which makes your phants often get only a single attack off.

Very different mentalities.

Also phantasmal Haste is a horrible trait generally speaking. From the wiki………
Phantasmal Berserker 7.0s 6.2s
Phantasmal Defender 4.6s 4.2s
Phantasmal Disenchanter kitten 4.0s
Phantasmal Duelist 7.6s 6.6s
Phantasmal Mage 7.8s 6.6s
Phantasmal Swordsman kitten 4.0s
Phantasmal Warden 14.2s 14.2s (bugged)
Phantasmal Warlock 6.9s 5.8s

That’s extremely old info, very inaccurate.

What a shame then that the game has fallen into such disrepair.

I’ve been running a condi spec of 0-4-4-0-6 with 1862 condi dmg+ (with nourishments) Runes of Perplexity and I find that to be a very damage heavy spec.

1862 condi damage will tear people up fast. In spvp I run the exact same spec but with runes of Undead and sigils of bursting. That puts me up around 1600 condi in spvp.

Dat Torment trait……………. fixed so much of what was wrong with condi mesmer.

Short answer NO. Long answer NO.

Phant builds really don’t want to shatter unless absolutely forced to because your dps/pressure will immediately stop dead in it’s tracks. Shatter builds want to shatter as much as possible which makes your phants often get only a single attack off.

Very different mentalities.

Also phantasmal Haste is a horrible trait generally speaking. From the wiki………
Phantasmal Berserker 7.0s 6.2s
Phantasmal Defender 4.6s 4.2s
Phantasmal Disenchanter kitten 4.0s
Phantasmal Duelist 7.6s 6.6s
Phantasmal Mage 7.8s 6.6s
Phantasmal Swordsman kitten 4.0s
Phantasmal Warden 14.2s 14.2s (bugged)
Phantasmal Warlock 6.9s 5.8s

Just built a 4790k machine about 4-5 months ago upgrading from AMD 970 phenom Quad.

The difference is I used to hit 8fps in wvw all the time. The 4790k never goes below 43 fps even in the thickest zergs.

In Diablo 3 I used to drop down to 5 fps and now D3 is a solid 50 fps in the thickest of mob packs.

I can even get Dayz to run at a solid 60 fps now.

Best gaming rig I’ve ever built. I can’t recommend the 4790k enough. The 4790k is future proofed for at least 4 years. Proc’s aren’t going to get much better than the 4790k for awhile.

I have no idea why they leave auto target on by default. Every MMO I play I ask myself why do you have Q and E as strafe instead of A D? Every MMO includes keyboard turning by default, really? Really?

If you have autotarget on then I guess mesmers would be OP………

Every mmo I play I’m constantly amazed at the horrible default controls.

Jack Angelfoot.2697:

After I just explained how to handedly beat a mesmer every time, all the whiners ignored it. This is a flame post. Just some bottom-tier players whining because they don’t get the purple butterfly animation.

Stop trying to explain to them how to beat mesmers, they don’t want to learn; they want to complain.

Good news! You know how much ArenaNet pays attention to logicless, skillless whiners? About as much as the girls in their middle school.

To those on this forum page who cannot beat mesmers, I have bad news. Stop trying, you never will. You need to pay attention to the game to do that. Which – judging by this post – you are incapable of doing.

+1

Good players adapt, bad players whine. Not much more to say.

Amir.1570:

Like even glass cannon Necro Lich form has counterplay, all you do is stack focus ele and you win. You can even burst lich form before lich bursts you because guess what? At least Necro dodges can be counted.

Mesmer has way too many evades and boon stripping and ways to bait out YOUR evades before theirs run out. That’s why it’s so easy to play it.

#MesmereasiestspvpglasscannonGW2

Also I don’t know why people think Mesmer is in a bad spot. It’s not even THAT BAD compared to when they took away Frenzy from Warrior when that was the only thing they had going for them. I don’t understand why people want to be spoonfed even more with this easy class. Mesmer mains are pretty much a bunch of spoiled rich kids who can’t do crap the moment their privileges get taken away.

They were widely accepted as broken in the past, that doesn’t change right now.

I like that you’re able to completely ignore 20+ people some of whom have been playing since launch and have 1000’s of hours played.

That’s a special kind of stubborn.

Allisa Wonderland.8192:

The economy mirrors reality. The average person works their butt off for a pittance, while the person keenly interested on making money takes up a profession, such as trading, which may not be their dream career, but is a means to that end.

Be wise and patient with the gold you earn and alas, you will have the wealth and toys you desire without relying on RNG or mindless farming.

Works for me. No gems to gold needed, no mystic toilet and only one precursor (rage, for 30g) in 6000 hours.

Article started out ok but turned op-ed, as I hoped it would not have.

Just what we want in a game right? A mirror of reality?

I remember people like you defending Diablo 3 before Blizzard realized the huge mistake they made and got rid of the real money AH.

Luckily Blizzard was smarter than the critics and turned Diablo 3 around from a dead game to a thriving game.

Too bad Anet can’t change courses like Blizzard did. I guess thats one of the reasons for Blizzards extraordinary success.

Just look at the way Blizzard scrapped Titan to make Overwatch. Now that I’m almost 40 and have seen the industry grow I have to respect blizzards management. Smart people over there.

SonOfJacob.7396:

What do people think about it?

http://toughlovecritic.wordpress.com/2015/01/05/the-gold-standard-why-loot-sucks-in-gw2-and-ways-to-fix-it/

Totally agree.

Just look at Diablo 3.

Diablo 3 was dead, low drop rates, required use of Auction house.
Diablo 3 saw their error, removed the Augtion House, drastically buffed drop rates.
People came back to Diablo 3 literally turning the game around 180 degrees.

Gw2 not having drops is such a bummer and not fun. I’ve done dragon/world bosses tons of times and I’ve still never seen anything of value drop for myself or anyone else.

I just started playing again after a long break from GW2.

Been running 0-4-4-0-6 scepter/focus Staff .
Sigil of Bursting, Sigil of Doom and rune of Undead in Spvp.
Runes of perplexity in WvW roaming.

Fun spec.

Ross Biddle.2367:

MailMail.6534:

Warlord of Chaos.7845:

Ross Biddle.2367:

DeWolfe.2174:

For all the passive AI work being done by phantasms and clones, a Mesmer should get toned down. It’s pretty much why Ranger Pet’s (cat’s/birds) got nerfed. Too much passive damage output by the AI’s allowing the Ranger to sit back.

Mesmer AI OP, please tone down
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKHY6gJRhXM

Well done Ross. This clearly shows the OP Mesmer AI.

Listen, there’s nothing wrong with our Mesmer AI in that video. They just need to nerf dolyak movement speed and spam evasions, then we’ll have esports.

Pro tips on how to avoid clone aa spam.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=QnRg6M56ABw#t=70

As warrior, spam “run-forward-in-a-straight-line evade” and/or use attack skills. Watch as clones AA fly by to no effect.

So true Ross.

The best warrior I’ve ever fought ran a eviscerate glassy spec in WVW. Here’s what he would do that I just couldnt really deal with.

1. He’d assault me and maybe I’d get him to half health from my reprisal.
2. He’d then run in a straight line directly away from me making my clones all line up in a long straight line.
3. Once he was far away and his CD’s back up (eviscerate) he’d turn back around, run right past my clones which are all so strung out it’s pretty hopeless to shatter them on target.
4. Go fro another eviscerate attempt which were critting me for 15k+ health.
5. If the charge attempt got a good crit he’d finish me off. If I got him low he’d run again turning my clones into a train again basically making my clones useless.

This technique does require a large space but it’s not like mesmers do well fighting in small spaces anyways. The warrior hit so kitten ed hard if I ever got even close to him or made a single mistake he’d crit me so badly the ball would be in his court until I eventually couldnt evade or heal any longer. GG.

My only option was to kite him yet this warrior used my kiting against me by running my clones out into long lines.

One of the most powerless I’ve ever felt in Gw2.

FACT, clones can barely hit moving targets as shown in your video.

Lordrosicky.5813:

My point is mesmer is so strong that you HAVE to bring a thief. Imagine playing a mesmer in a thief-less game. It would be like taking candy from a baby. I think this is bad for the game, and therefore fire/air sigils should be nerfed considerably. Or just nerf mesmer.

How many hours do you have played? I mean we should know since you’re making such declarative statements.

I have 3000 hours just on mesmer. I get shut down by good players all the time. It’s funny that you seem to have a problem with mesmers yet “pro” players think they’re basically useless in this meta.

For Christs sake even Supcutie quit playing mesmer in competitions. I mean when one of the best mesmers quits playing mesmer for anything but fun that says volumes.

How about you play mesmer for 2 weeks straight in spvp then form a opinion? How much you want to bet you’ll go right back to warrior/engi/ele?

Narkodx.1472:

2 years later and people still don’t know how to deal with clones

2 years later and people still keyboard turn/tab target

2 years later and people still need to L2P

This ^^^

How much you want to bet the OP still has Q & E still bound to strafe?

kitten , baller staff play. I didn’t even know staff could be played that well.

I have to say threads like this shock me to some degree. They shock me because I don’t understand how in 2015 people still don’t grasp the very simple concept of math, numbers, player base.

LoL has good matchmaking because they have millions of players to pull from. Smite’s matchmaking has gotten better this year as their player base has become quite large.

Now you expect great matchmaking with Gw2’s relatively small player base? Do you expect the devs to pull players out of their rear regions? Should they wave a magic wand and make 200,000 people log on to pvp 24/7? Ooh I know! How about Anet enslaves a quarter million poor foreign farmers to help fluff the odds of you getting a perfect game match?

Here’s a simple diagram if you still haven’t gotten teh point.

1,000,000 players = Great matchmaking!
1,000 players = poor matchmaking.

now try using the some logic and think about this for 20 minutes.

Weird, I have over 3500 on mesmer and I rarely see blink fail. In fact compared to old school WoW blink works way more often than it did on WoW’s mage.

Also the problem with blinks failing is because of a universal video game problem X/Y axis. Games don’t like elevation changes. This isn’t just a problem in Gw2. This is a problem in every game ever made.

Comparing a 2d game to a huge MMO with variable terrain is laughable. Gw2’s blinks are more reliable than any other mmo I’ve ever played and I’ve played most of them.

Hopeless.5403:

I think this game can learn that force feeding player housing is a bad idea. Nothing but outrage in most mmo communities regarding the decision and content direction wow made. I think the time for GW2 to capitalize on this is now. When will we get raiding content and possible guild halls (not player housing).

Huh? Every WoW player I’ve listened to on numerous podcasts loves the new WoW content. In fact many of these podcasters have said that WoW’s latest expansion is the best expansion in WoW’s history. I would have gotten it myself if there wasn’t a 15$ sub fee.

Your little brother’s opinion is not the entire planets….just so you know.

Makes me wonder how many people think they have “lag” when in fact they’re getting poor fps.

I used to have “lag” too until I got a 4790k I7. Now the game runs like melted butter floating on water.

Rednik.3809:

Legendary count – 4, both GS included.
5117 hours played since headstart (and don’t know how much on beta).
17k+ AP, full ascended sets, bla-bla.
12 80 characters.
Dungeons/bosses/pvp every day.
Most expensive drop was 89g focus from Shadow Behemoth.
Precursors? What is is precursors?

I wonder how many such lucky people are here.

I recently started playing again after 1 year off. I started at launch so I have over 3500 hours played. I’ve gotten one precursor on my first 4x exotic attempt at the forge. It was collosus which I flipped and made into Bifrost.

That being said here’s the reality of it.

Diablo 3 did a complete 180. Diablo 3 was a dead game for all intensive purposes. Want to know why it did such a drastic and remarkable turn around?

It got rid of the real money AH. Here’s the problem with real money AH’s from my perspective now that I’ve seen both sides of it via Diablo 3.

1. You must have very low drop rates to account for the combined AH’s. (LOW drop rates are not fun)

2. The prices are inflated because of whales. ( I had a guildy who worked in the medical supply industry (crook) and spent over 2000$ on gems/precursors jacking up the prices across the board)

3. Farming becomes a horrible grind because you can’t target specific items/materials. Anyone who’s played Diablo 3 knows that you can farm Ring of royal Grandeur. It may take many tries but eventually you will get the ring of royal Grandeur you’ve wanted if you just keep trying. In Gw2 farming is pointless. For awhile I even tried farming skins out of fractals/Twilight arbor hard wing, but eventually you just realize that Gw2’s drop rates are so low it’s pointless.

Removing the real world AH would go a LONG way to fixing Gw2. Funny that Blizzard did it, turned diablo 3 around in it’s tracks, yet no one seems to notice what a miracle Blizzard pulled off.

I used to hate Blizzard, now I see that Blizzard is one of the smartest companies in all of gaming. Too bad Anet seems so stuck in their ways that they can’t change or adapt. Kudo’s to Blizzard for being able to change gears. Rare among corps I have to say.

FIGHT! You need to realize that a high damage thief is just as squishy as you are. Shatter mesmer can deal with thieves well if you have enough damage. A thief who eats a full shatter is in big trouble, easier said than done though.

The thing to realize is that you need to make your shatter count. When I fight thieves instead of running (losing battle since they’re faster) I try to put on as much dps as possible as fast as possible to turn the fight around.

Condi specs are often more susceptible to thieves because of thieves condi cleans trait. A patient thief will not die to condi’s if they use that trait properly. Power/crit shatter builds can actually handle thieves well if you dont let them get the jump on you.

Last suggestion. Try playing a thief, level one up. That helps a ton once you see how they work in detail.

hellsmachine.4085:

I’m curious to know if you, the people that asked for vertical progression/gear grind/carrot on a stick, are happy with Ascended gear being added to the game. Is this what you were after? Are you now satisfied? Or are you disappointed? Are you now craving the next level of grind/progression/carrot chasing? Or have you already returned to whatever game it is you came from?

I’d really like to know if this was really worth damaging the game for me and many others.

Those that say Vertical Progression is necessary for a games longevity, then how do you explain successful games such as LoL, DOTA 2, GW1, DAY Z and TF2 (currently 10 x more popular than Planteside 2, even after over 6 years.) all thriving with little to no vertical progression?

Great question OP. As someone who still only uses Ascended Jewlery and back pieces for the most part I too wonder this same thing.

I have over 40 Ascended globs and 40 Ascended mithril but I have yet to get my tailoring past 438. I just hate crafting in this game and I feel forced to do it for basically a 1% stat gain.

Sylvari male Godmoney

Asura male Godmoneys

But, yeah it does seem like 90% are female human.

Totally agree.

I hate playing GuildCraft2 sometimes. I get zero enjoyment from crafting in Guildcraft2.

I miss the old days of grinding dungeons for drops. I collected every single trinket in Rifts hard mode dungeons.

I highly doubt that will happen. Anet has plenty on their plate with the Chinese launch and making content. I really really doubt Gw2 will ever be on console.

I’d suggest saving up and rebuilding your computer if that’s why you hope for ps4 launch. You’ll get more milage out of nice PC anyways over a ps4.

Pyroatheist.9031:

If I recall correctly, the change in stats was about 10-15 normal stats and 1% critical damage or something. If you actually calculate it out, the change is at or below 1% total increase in damage. This puts it so far below normal damage variation due to weapon damage spread that it is statistically insignificant. Anyone trying to argue that actually makes a difference is talking out of their kitten .

I’ll agree with the first part, not sure why you have to call them incompetent unless you’re just trying to be insulting to the devs.

The stats are so small they’re literally not worth it. You’re better off making legendaries. You can go buy a precursor for the price of a ascended armor set.

It sounds like some of you should just re-roll to another class. This nerf is going to gut the class correct? Then if that’s your opinion re-roll to something more your playstyle.

I’m not worried about this at all, but you should play classes that make you happy.

I still haven’t made any Ascended armor. I have 3,200 hours played. I was making Bifrost at the time and had to choose.

Also my main has at least 6 full stat sets of gear and I use 2 of them very often and 1 occasionally.

I would have no problem with Ascended gear except for THE EXTREME GRIND INVOLVED. If ascended was half as easy to make I would be fine with that. The current costs though are just stupid for the stats you get.

I’ll stick with exotic armor for another month or two. Even months later I’m still shocked at how difficult they made ascended armor to make.

Also I hate hate hate crafting and I feel forced to do that. HATE CRAFTING (i needed one extra hate in there)

Signed, from a customer who’s spent at least 300$ on this game. Kinda irritated.

Practice.

Spvp is a great place to fight a thief friend over and over again. When fighting in practice to learn go for quantity. Just keep dueling your friend over and over again even if you’re losing. Eventually things will “click”

You must break many eggs to make a good omelette. Failure is just the path towards success.

People think they need GS for shatter builds?

I didn’t even use GS for the first 8 months of this game. Staff has always been my go to weapon for shatter builds until fairly recently. In WvW i prefer GS lately but in Spvp I want my staff because of the claustrophobic nature of Spvp.

Shatter is viable with GS, Staff, Scepter, Pistol, Focus, Torch.

I was running 10-20-0-25-15 for a week or two. Use GS/sword/pistol with traveler runes. Zerker/Assassin gear.

Very damage heavy spec. Not really my playstyle but it’s powerful and very good in many situations.

It’s not uncommon to see the Zerker phantasm hit for 8500 with a few stacks of might.

Dastion.3106:

If it turns out to be true then I’m all for it, though I agree that the Warrior skill is definitely more suitable to a Mesmer, ANet doesn’t seem to think Mesmers need to be able to inflict Confusion or Torment any better (or remotely as well) as Engineers, Necros, Thieves, or Warriors :P.

And this is my problem with current condi mesmer. After the nerfs I found a Condi shatter spec of 0-20-20-0-30 pretty bad, then they added Runes of Perplexity. I immediately jumped on Runes of Perplexity and found that if I dropped torch for focus I not only had more Swiftness in WvW, but also had a great interrupt with Knockdown.

The Runes of Perplexity now feel almost required for my condi shatter build because of the extra 3 stacks you’ll often have up. Even with the duration not working those to Procs are worth gold.

Without Runes of Perplexity I think you’re on a uphill battle to make a condi build really work. The Condi Mesmer’s durations are just too short in my opinion. Few players are going to stand there and let you spawn staff clones all day to whittle them down and stack Fire damage. Until Staff Clones stack fire damage you don’t see much movement in the enemies health. On the other hand Scepter’s #3 is so wonking and slow I often have it miss or I interrupt myself waiting for it to fire. With Runes of Perplexity though I’ll often get 8 stack off of Scepter#3. I thought of this a few weeks ago when running this spec that I only care about Scepters block period Full/Stop end of story. The scepter block is amazing while the channel is just painful to use. Scepter has a AAttack? Funny I’ve never noticed.

In the meantime Engineer’s and even Warriors now can get much better condi builds because they have incredible durations. With +40% food on Engi’s can easily keep a opponent perma poisoned (at least in my experience) Play a confusion shatter mesmer without Runes of perplexity and your confusion will be much more On or OFF than with Runes of Perplexity.

My only hope at this point is that with this upcoming Rune Rework we see some great procs for poison, torment, etc. On the other hand that means classes like Engi and Necro or thief will have an even easier time making poison stick to you like a piece of toilet paper on your shoe.

TLDR, our durations are too short at least comparatively imo. Too much reliance on Runes of Perplexity.

Those are all fair points Advent and I too would love to see some of these bugs squashed. I agree with for the most part.

I simply try to play a bit of devil’s advocate because sometimes in our passion we forget how complicated these systems and interaction of systems are.

I feel ya though.

Nobody likes my idea of a LUX or RA type ultimate? Think of how great that would be for a lock down build.

Watch a lux montage and tell me you don’t want a giant lazer beam.

I think a giant pink lazer actually fits with the mesmers theme too. A giant focused beam of magic.

Also it’s a mechanic that we know works in video games. Think about it.

Your little ad at the bottom made me laugh. Keep it up.

Ross Biddle.2367:

“PU” isnt a build, and a mesmer using mainhand sword, and iLeaping from stealth (traited or not) is a thing.

The best way for a player to deal with your (very real) issue is to main a mesmer from the start, and never try/play anything else. That way you’re blissfully ignorant of the inadequacies of the mesmer class, and you become uber strong dealing with the easy mode opponent classes being thrown constantly at you. Which isnt to say fighting them is in any way easy. It’s more difficult than anything, but you have to adapt, or reroll.

This has always been my attitude about mmo’s. Personally I’m the kind of guy who like to play classes that are delicate and demanding. I play most single player games on the hardest difficulty just to drag them out a little. (beat Xcom Iron man/classic a few months back)

About 10 years ago I remember a sorta famous MMO post that made the rounds of the ancient internet that basically said “It’s the player’s ability to adapt to patches that makes a good MMO player, not the class”

I took that forum post to heart ever since. I also complain way way less than I used to.

One of the reason I “white knight” these forums a lot is that I understand peoples complaint because I used to do the same thing in my 20’s.

Now I’ve come to realize the Devs are just people doing the best they know how. No matter what anyone says I think the Devs have done a great job with a very unique class.

Last point. MMO’s are so complex and have so many variations and interactions between classes and abilities that no MMO is ever truly balanced. I’ve lowered my expectations. For me now the only types of things to really complain about are things like the Chaos Storm bug that was one shotting people. That could have been easily avoided if they gave us a test server. That bug has no excuse going live. Just saying.

I’d pay 800 gems per trait slot. Take my money already just give me GEAR and SPEC templates so I can change everything with a single button push.

Fade.9124:

Godmoney.2048:

Fade.9124:

I was really enjoying playing mesmer in wvw and pvp. I recently went back to my warrior and as much as I would love to main a mesmer, it just has way too many bugs and ‘ifs’ that can cost you a fight. The problem i found is that the class is so dependent on the AI for (I played both phantasm and shatter, not PU) and the leap + blurred frenzy burst combo is soooo buggy and unreliable that it’s just not worth the frustration. It seems you need a perfect situation to land that consistently and lets face it, there are so many imperfections in this game that makes it almost impossible.

When people say warrior is ‘easy mode’, it really is compared to a mesmer. Dont get me wrong, I wanted to play a more dynamic class which is why I leveled and geared my mesmer but there are just so many things wrong with this class it seems?

Unforgiving? Yes, mesmer is unforgiving in many ways. The mesmer should avoid taking damage, mesmer’s don’t sustain well or have much in terms of mitigation. The mindset that you must have to “mes” well is to not take damage in the early stages of a fight. Luckily mesmer has many options for avoiding early fight damage, mobility, evasion, stealth to name a few. This is a fundamental difference between mes and most classes.

Buggy? Meh, you learn to not use your Illusionary leap on uneven ground. See a thief that is on a slight uphill slope? Instead of using Illusionary leap on a spot that the ability will fail wait a second, use it at the top of the slope. Rarely are you going to spend a entire fight on a hill. Does that suck? Yeah it does, but I have yet to play a mmo that doesn’t have a hard time with X axis blinks. When you find a mmo that doesn’t have trouble with X axis blinking let me know. That would be the first mmo ever to not have this issue.

AI issues? Honestly I know dodge clones will run towards close targets and ability clones will run towards my targeted target so AI isn’t something that has ever bothered me about mesmer. I’ve always felt the AI was great for mesmer. Rangers and Necro’s are the ones that should be complaining. Again though, most mmo’s have trouble with pet pathing and AI. That’s another consistent problem in mmo’s. GW2 not be alone in that area.

Mesmer is still my favorite class of all MMO time. You like warrior, I like mesmer. The difference? You probably have way more practice on warrior while i have thousands of hours on mesmer. It’s not easy to switch classes when you’re confident on you main. I know I can’t pvp worth a kitten on anything but mesmer because I’ve never really practiced with them.

To each his own.

Like I said I like the mesmer I just dont enjoy playing with all the issues and bugs like you do. You can live with them and work around them (when you shouldnt have to for the most part) whereas it’s just too frustrating for me. Warrior has issues too, like bull’s charge can be similar to the leap where it misses, overshoots, buggy on uneven terrain, etc but my entire build is not based around that whereas a mesmer is (with the exception of PU maybe). We’re both settling but the mez is the worst off of the bunch, except maybe ranger.

I understand your points. I wasn’t trying to criticize your perspective. My apologies if I was condescending.

Yikes! If that’s true then that sounds like a weak Ultimate.

I don’t even like the idea or theme of it.

I usually believe most leaked patch notes because they usually are actual leaks but those ultimates sounds rather peculiar to me.

How about a LAZER BEAM akin to Lux’s ultimate in LOL or Smite’s RA? Now that would be sweet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcEYgr1v2pM

Vrak.2193:

Godmoney.2048:

Vrak.2193:

Also I disagree that it’s a minor issue; Illusionary leap is a core class ability and it’s rather important that it functions in a reliable manner.

You seem to be fortunate as the ability bugs out for me easily over 50% of the time and I go out of my way to avoid using it on uneven terrain and often stand closer than it’s max range…

Well you need to ask yourself why this is such a issue for you and not for me Osicat, Carrihgan, etc.

Maybe it’s that we’ve all learned to work with it? Just sayin. I know now where the ability will function perfectly and where it won’t. It took time.

Not trying to be rude just trying to give some perspective.

Yes, maybe they could change the ability entirely, it’s a possibility. I’m not going to stop playing mesmer though in the mean time. Still one of the stronger classes in many ways.

I have plenty of perspective thanks and I very much expected this type of a response. I can play the Mesmer perfectly fine and have played sword main hand almost exclusively.

The point is that you should’t have to “work around” it; the ability should simply function correctly.

There’s really no reason for it to have been bugged for this long.

There is a reason it’s been bugged…….because they can’t fix it. Wanna know why Warhammer had such horrible pet pathing? Because they couldn’t fix it.

Zoid.2568:

Mesmer is OP. Mesmer can go 1vs3 and win easy. Not any other class can do that, maybe for except Engineer. Still OP as kitten.

You cannot 1v3 good players. You can 1v3 new players. How many hours do you have played again?

Believe it or not it used to be way worse and put you into walls far more often than it does now.

I’m not sure about clones but I love the idea of a dagger mesmer. If we don’t get main hand pistol I vote daggers all the way.

I’m leveling a 2nd mesmer as we speak. I’m just so tired of respeccing 3 times a day and changing into different sets of gear.

I would love a trait and gear template but sadly i think that goes against their business model.