This is the worst thread I’ve ever seen on the forums.
Armor is a exploit. Real players only wear the tissue paper stuck to their shoes.
Using weapons? Exploit. Beat it with your fists like a real hero.
Waypoints? Huge exploit. Even Superman can’t teleport.
Everyone who uses a gaming mouse? Superduper exploit. Mice only need 2 buttons. I take that back 1 button Apple mice is all you get!
You’ve been warned cheaters!
You really find PVE so difficult that you think it needs different balance?
Are you soloing raids? As a 4000+ hour player with 15k chievo points i can’t fathom what could possibly be causing anyone so much trouble they would need the game balanced for PVE.
What encounter in PVE is giving you this much trouble that the devs should re-balance 100’s of different skills?
As to why they should do this, they had been doing it previously and there are still some skills not entirely unsplit from PvP/PvE balance. One could legitimately argue that the overall state of combat was healthier due to this.
As I always like to ask in these threads, please provide an example of a balance change made for PvP reasons that had unacceptable consequences for PvE, or a balance change for PvE that had unacceptable consequences for PvP.
There are times and places for splitting skill functionality between different game modes, but I can’t think of any balance changes from the past year or so that would demand it.
The recent changes to both CoR and Scorched Earth come to mind as changed made for either mode that are in direct opposition of another gameplay mode. Additionally, most of the mesmer nerfs have had sweeping rippling effects through PvE, even though the majority of it (sans Pre-cog) were aimed at PvP.
The change to necro in general this patch scream PvP balance changes, that have little to no impact on their PvE viability.
This is why both balance needs to be done on a per mode basis, because last i check i don’t play conquest in PvE, and you don’t kill bosses with 22million HP in PvP.
That doesnt answer the question in the slightest. Give me a example of this mindbendingly difficult content in Gw2 that needs sweeping PVE buffs to accomplish.
Serious, what content in Gw2 needs rebalancing so much that you can’t just knock off some hitpoints.
Let’s see changing hitpoints on a single mob > Rebalancing 100’s of interconnecting skills for no other reason than a few players have trouble in pve
Again, what mob in gw2 is giving you this much trouble?
You really find PVE so difficult that you think it needs different balance?
Are you soloing raids? As a 4000+ hour player with 15k chievo points i can’t fathom what could possibly be causing anyone so much trouble they would need the game balanced for PVE.
What encounter in PVE is giving you this much trouble that the devs should re-balance 100’s of different skills?
I died several times on the day down. I think the jump itself took me 3 or 4 trys to get. Come back to it later if you’re getting frustrated. Sometimes just letting something sit for a day or 2 will help.
I’m glad they haven’t split it. I love people who think the entire player base only plays one game mode.
I also appreciate that people think pve needs tighter balance. As if we can’t just knock some health off of boss mob, you know cause that’s harder then balancing 1000 interconnecting skills.
It wouldn’t be a problem if there was ever a balance to begin with, but it’s been proven that they are unable to balance the game with all game modes interconnect through skills. I know players play multiple game modes and splitting specs doesn’t stop one from playing each game mode.
Also it may cost a little extra investment up front but once it’s in place it will pay for itself in the end by being easier to maintain, and not making players leave due to issues in game related to balance.
Hey can you point to me the MMO that was every balanced? I’m really curious as a 40 year old mmo vet who’s played since the original EQ and vanilla WOW what mmo you’ve played that had balance for more than a single patch cycle in the life of the game.
Guild missions for earrings. Fractals for rings. WVW luarel merchant for neck piece.
You’re welcome.
I’m glad they haven’t split it. I love people who think the entire player base only plays one game mode.
I also appreciate that people think pve needs tighter balance. As if we can’t just knock some health off of boss mob, you know cause that’s harder then balancing 1000 interconnecting skills.
I kind feel bad for people who have a hard time doing simple open world pve content in Gw2.
I own every class and just can’t imagine struggling so much that a small nerf or class adjustment would really impact my gameplay.
I often see these types of players in fractals struggling. I wish I could help or train them to use the dodge skill more often. Just the other day I saw a necro who I dont think hit dodge even once. Maybe Engi should be left alone so there is a “easy mode” class for this type of player?
Feelsbadman
Well I guess Anet will have to give this cheater a whole 6 month ban for doing something that deserves a permanent ban.
Anyone want to place a bet this player isn’t banned in say the next month?
It really bums me out they made the elite specs so stronger. I would have bought the expansion regardless. I didn’t need or want blatantly broken specs to dominate the game just to sell boxes.
If they didn’t make the elite specs broken on purpose to sell boxes I would be shocked. It seems like a cheap, untrustworthy, lacking confidence way to sell a few extra boxes.
I wanted elite specs to add to the game not take it over.
i have the feeling that this community is one of the worst… the suck at love thread on reddit and the one over here are like magnets for toxic ill manered players.
LOL the Gw2 community is the worst because we don’t support piece of filth, disgusting, worthless cheating pieces of human refuse?
That’s rich. Real rich to expect people to support cheating, liars.
I’m just going block you in game since you have sympathies for people like this. The next step is for you to start cheating yourself.
“Piece of filth”
“disgusting”
“worthless pieces of human”Oh, my. Calm down dude. I’m sure you are not the kind of person who wishes that thiefs and liars get their hands or tongues chopped off the instant they were caught. I’m just telling you this in case you didn’t know: There are living human beings behind those accounts, with, you know, something called feelings. Ever heard of that?
I used to be moderator in a manga forum some years ago and you, my friend, would’ve gotten a big red warning for such a post. And that warning would be visible under your username -forever- so that everyone could see that you behaved like a duck at least once. Ignorant users would block you as soon as they see the red letters under your username because you “were a bad person”.
Maybe that manga community was just too nice since I was never forced to give someone such a warning, but maybe posts like yours are considered normal nowadays…?
@ArenaNet
So the thread is back. May I ask why?
I have no sympathy for cheaters, thieves and liars. None. Zilch, Zero.
Mounts would be great. I’ve often wondered why they aren’t already in the game. As someone who has spent 100’s of dollars on the game I welcome mounts.
Even if they add no functionality I’d take them.
Sure, why not. Give us some of those dinosaur mounts or even some cool armored horses. Heck, give me one of those large plant based wolves. I’d ride that around.
Nerf all the new specs basically. I wanted the new specs to add to the game not take it over.
I thought the dev’s felt the same way before HOT’s launch but obviously I was wrong.
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3 years of a huge massive game for 50$.
Now they want 50$ for another 3 years of sub free goodness.
Ok. Sounds reasonable.
Why would you want ascended on alts that you’ll never play?
Since when is ascended needed for anything but fractals? Most of your stats come from jewelry anyways which is easy to get.
I love this idea that the op is so ocd that they just have to have ascended on every alt just cause. You know reasons.
I have 8 80’s and I play 3 of them regularly. Why i would need full ascended on crafting alts is beyond my reason or logic.
I used to think the same thing op. I still kinda do. The reason for this op is to prevent kiting. In 99% of mmo’s I can turn my camera to a 90’ degree angle and still dps while kiting you as long as my camera is at 90 degrees or less.
As a long time mmo player i have used this to make kiting classes really shine. Beyond just the nerf to strafing you’ll also notice that you can’t even use many abilities at 90 degrees or even 80 degrees angled. Mesmer’s 3 skill on scepter won’t even get close to a 90 degree angle. I’d say it cancels itself at 75 degrees.
I found this really irriating but ive learned to just treat it as mechanics and deal with it. I think without these limitations I’d be able to actually kite properly on ranged builds. It would make ranged even stronger and Gw2 is built more around the idea of skirmishing.
Don’t know what to tell you. They aren’t changing it now and it would require a massive rebalance of almost every class.
LOL you’re having a back and forth with somebody trolling eachother and this is Anet or Gw2 fault?
I love how you talk with that troll about being a adult yet you can’t just block someone like a adult.
Grow up.
You aren’t going to make the game worse for your paying customers just to appease a minority of players, who don’t want to learn how to play the game, when you can easily split the changes right?
Huhuhu, good try
Why should this skill be nerfed in PvE?
I’m sure you’re not refering to the Chrono bunker’s shield 4 skill are you? Only somebody lacking common sense and reasoning would be using that in PVE.
I look forward to personally kicking the first chronomancer I see using shield in pve just like I would do if they’re using scepter.
But of course you weren’t referencing the shield’s 4 skill because that would be insane for somebody to actually be worried about pve balance in relationship to that particular skill which is entirely useless for pve.
I’d be careful using yolomouse as it may be a breach of the ToS. It’s a third party program that alters game files in that it redirects the cursor on screen print function to itself.
Might be worthwhile posting a question on Reddit to see if a Dev responds with a clear answer?
LOL “alters game files”
Are you just pretending to know what you’re talking about?
Change the color, or size, or something! I lose my cursor in all the hustle n bustle more than I should, and in Raids it can make me mess up. If I could make it be bright purple, or making it bigger, or something so it sticks out more that would be super awesome. And I can’t imagine something like that would be hard to do.
Harooo Frand!
May I introduce you to a small program called YOLOmouse. You may thank me later. Even better thank the creator of YOLOmouse.
Warning tin hats may be required before further reading.,,, Anet always needs a broken class for people to complain about. Or maybe the players are just too good at exploiting every tiny loophole?? Not sure , anyone else notice 1 class always seems to be broken?? Right now it is mesmer bunker, ask any mesmer, they will tell you strait up its broken. Not only can they hold a point against multiple players, but can now go back in time and ignore cool downs hitting you multiple times with ELITE skills not ment to be played that way ( got moa 3 times in 1 fight)
Hey can you tell me about that mmo you played with 100’s of interconnecting skills and traits that was balanced?
I know one game that is balanced perfectly! It’s called RATZ. It’s a one hit kill hit scan fps game. Everyone has 1 gun, everyone has the same avatar.
I’m excited to see your examples of mmo’s.
First, if anyone cares, I posted something on this topic about a year ago. I was at the time QUITE fed up w/ getting trashed by mesmers. Many people derided and defamed my viewpoint. See here:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/pvp/Stealth-Classes-OP-in-PvP/first#post4615485
BUT Now, all those detractors will HAVE to eat crow.
You can’t be serious.
You are aware that a few minor things have changed in the last year right?
Not only that, you even got the class wrong (which should have been an indication of things having changed).
Bunker chronomancers are OP, not mesmers. But hey, who pays attention to details.
Congratulations, it took over 1 year and massive changes to the game for a point of yours to become valid. More power to you.
Details? Like the one where you have to BE a Mesmer, in order to be a chronomancer? As in maybe you’d like to cite specific nerfs to the Mesmer class that have made them weaker? Links to said same? Or again, links to champ matches three, six, and nine months ago that of course would SHOW us that Mesmers aren’t being used? Those sort of details?
Did you WATCH the twitch link, where typically ONLY one Mesmer on a team was running chronomancer? What WAS that other Mesmer doing, I wonder?
If anything has changed in the last year, it is that Mesmers HAVE BECOME MORE POWERFUL, NOT LESS. Feel free to PROVE otherwise.
Cheers
The fact that you know nothing of the meta from a year ago speaks volumes. Mesmer for the last 1.5 years has been lacking. Everyone knows that. Until the specialty patch mesmer was one of the weaker classes in the game. The specialty patch changed things up alot and put mesmers back up towards the top.
Bunker chronomancer does need toning down no doubt about it. Basic mesmer specs are in a pretty good spot nowdays but I wouldnt call anything besides bunker OP at all.
If anything mesmer has been towards teh bottom of the pile for the majority of the games life at least in competitive play.
I feel like most “bad mmo players” don’t change their keybinds and don’t own a highend mouse that has extra buttons.
I’m very very skeptical of the 30g a hour claim. 15g a hour is probably feasible with a booster and you know the map very well.
That being said yes, gathering is a great way to make gold. When HOT first launched Iron was selling for kitten .
I just bought a 120gb SSD for 40$ from Newegg.
I put GW2 and Fallout 4 on it. Lions Arch used to take 60 sec to load. Now it’s 15 sec’s. A 120gb SSD is pretty cheap now.
I’d bet that you’re using a platter drive.
I’m a really hardcore player but I never bought the expansion and find paying 50$ for thousands of game hours played to be too much.
Sure………you really sound like a dedicated player.
Do you realize how bored and cliche these types of “I quit posts” are? Oh this is your first mmo so you think it’s new.
It’s too late for redesigns after something like this has come out. People who bought it, bought it because they liked the way it looked. Changing the look after release should only be done because there’s a problem as it invalidates the prior purchases.
Do you just sit on the forums all day being a contrarian for fun or something?
Oh yeah and they do change things all the time. For example the way several legendary had their skin and effects changed after launch.
Or how about the changes to the dreamer just recently made.
I don’t see how adding a tiny bit of shading on the plasma GS is any different.
I was talking about the crafting guides, did you not see the title?
I saw the title and googled it because I’ve never heard of it. It looked like 3rd party software. If it’s not, I can’t help you because I’ve never heard of it. If it is, don’t use it. I definitely wasn’t going to click the site because it’s description is incredibly suspicious.
Godmoney, see above and don’t chime in.
You entirely miss my point.
If you dont know what GW2 craft is then i dont know why you feel anybody cares about your opinion.
You are not the center of the universe.
I was talking about the crafting guides, did you not see the title?
The quick guides just cost a bit more and are simpler to carry out. If you can afford the gold I would recommend fast guides unless you are one of the weirdo’s who actually likes crafting in mmo’s.
8silver a piece isn’t enough for you? Yeah it was nice when Flax was 20silver but you still find 8 isn’t enough? Geez.
So, no source, as in you don’t know if it’s a bug or the drop rate was deliberately changed.
Have you done any fractals or do you just sit on the forums all day? (we already know the answer)
Yes ascended chests have been drastically nerfed. Maybe they’ll buff the rates some since so many people are upset about this.
I dont think it should be as high as before but it would be nice to know that you have at least a decent shot at a chest 40+. I think the reason they did this is to incentivize crafting asceneded. As it stood before it was much cheaper and smarter to farm fractals. Now maybe the pendulum swung too hard.
I’m fine with 250 points. It’s not too much for a few alts and enough to at least force your mains into HOT.
Seems in the sweet spot you ask me.
I don’t even………….
The dev’s must get so tired of seeing this type of stuff. It’s a wonder they all don’t quit their jobs and get more lucrative positions in other software field besides games.
I feel that silk is more common now not less. I salvage everything and have noticed a uptick in silk and a down tick in leather. I’m happy about this.
You think they dont care and aren’t working on fixes? You think they just don’t care about 200+ peoples lively hoods? I guarantee you they care a great deal.
Also I have crashed a few times just like I did before HOT.
The balls on people to assume a company with hundreds of people doesn’t care is just galling.
This would be nice since I haven’t even touched the elite specs yet and at the rate im going (3-4 hours a day) I’m not going to have Dragon hunter or Chronomancer unlocked any time soon.
I heard you wanted some gating so I gated your gate.
I have to say…….I’m really bummed out about the way they implemented this stuff.
I simply hate hate hate doing any of the story content in the game. Now I feel forced into the story content.
Locking away elite specs too is really irritating me. I had 220 points and now I can’t even touch Chronomancer for quite awhile. A real let down.
So far I just feel like going back to farming and working on older legi’s or ascended crafting. All the new content just feels locked away and more hassle then it’s worth.
PS. I’m not really understanding why they felt they had to lock so much away when Gw2 has never been lacking in things to do.
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yes. like every game you can buy is. You cannot win it if you don´t buy it.
seriously, this place is on the fast train through the rabbit hole…
I bought the game and want to play with equality, I’m complaining about having to pay for new skills it will unbalance the game and will transform the game in P2W, this was not the proposal of the game when it was released and remained so for 3 years,
now I feel deceived…You’ve said you’ve played games before yet the concept of espansions having new skills is new to you. Perhaps you can tell us what MMOs you’ve played where the expansion did not make the characters stronger in some way, by increased levels or new skills or stronger old skills.
on the contrary, every game I played already launched expansions but never charged money for skills or new characters, some of which previously had monthly fees are now free to play and continue to release expansions without charging money for maps, skills and characters, of them all the one who had the most abusive cash was Rohan and for this reason i stopped playing it
Lineage 2, Aion, RF Online, Requiem, R.O.H.A.N, TERA Online
these are the ones I remember now.
all expansions, f2p or buy to play, have new skills or levels.
but do not charge for it, I said I’ve never seen a game charging for skills, and that’s what ArenaNet is doing, for all I know so far to use the new specializations (reaper, berserker, daredevil, Chronomancer…) you have to buy the expansion HoT, or am I wrong?
ALL MMO expansions, f2p or b2p, have increased abilities/skills/levels on their chars. The f2p ones don’t charge you but the games where you have to buy the expansions do. If you were playing f2p games, then no, you didn’t get charged, because they get their money another way. This is a b2p game. Its business model is, you must buy the expansion to get the new abilities.
then the GW2 community will have one player less, and as soon as the F2P players find out even less, because I refuse to pay to get advantage over the others. as I said I accept to pay to get access to new maps, new armor, weapons and other things, but pay to get advantage is unfair, pay to get access to skills and traits is unfair, not only to the F2Players, but also with those who do not intend to buy the Expansion.
Please leave then. Serious here. Go play something else. If you think a traditional MMO expansion is p2w then there’s nothing else to say here.
You can either keep moaning and whining or go play something you like better. This is a traditional standard mmo expansion. Nothing even close to out of the ordinary here.
It’s Gw2.
I just built a I7 4790k machine and it still happens just like my last AMD machine.
The one trick Ive learned to do to avoid it is if you start at 4:30 on Teq then restart the game half way through the WB farm. I usually do a restart on Centaur or Shadow behemoth that way avoiding a crash at KQ.
Yeah, it’s something in the code. Been there since launch.
yes. like every game you can buy is. You cannot win it if you don´t buy it.
seriously, this place is on the fast train through the rabbit hole…
I bought the game and want to play with equality, I’m complaining about having to pay for new skills it will unbalance the game and will transform the game in P2W, this was not the proposal of the game when it was released and remained so for 3 years,
now I feel deceived…You’ve said you’ve played games before yet the concept of espansions having new skills is new to you. Perhaps you can tell us what MMOs you’ve played where the expansion did not make the characters stronger in some way, by increased levels or new skills or stronger old skills.
on the contrary, every game I played already launched expansions but never charged money for skills or new characters, some of which previously had monthly fees are now free to play and continue to release expansions without charging money for maps, skills and characters.
Lineage 2, Aion, RF Online, Requiem, TERA Onlinethese are the ones I remember now.
Oh look! Some games that you like that have pay models you enjoy more!
Calling GW2 pay to win is laughable. Hahahahaha.
Also Expecting balance out of a beta weekend where some classes were stronger, some weaker is really weird. Classes that are weaker get brought up, stronger classes toned down. This is called a MMORPG.
I own the beta yet never played a beta character and did pvp all weekend winning most of my games using standard specs. I dont see the problem. Learning to deal with new specs is no different then learning to deal with a new hero or champion in any popular moba. Pretty standard practice.
Also tons of MMO’s have charged for expansions in the past. If any mmo deserves to charge for content it’s Gw2.
Upgrading DX also will not provide the performance boost that people are hoping for.
This too^ I have a friend who tells me in Steam constantly that DX12 is the 2nd coming of the lord or something.
In reality from the testing I’ve seen on pc hardware sights it will give us a fps increase but it’s very conditional on the particular game and it’s not a solid 20% like they claim.
If we’re lucky a healthy 10% increase in fps would be welcome and probably possible.
IMO Gw2 is a very well made piece of software. Dx12 would be great but it’s going to take time for it to come to any games at all.
No game currently uses DX12. ARK is trying to be the first though they were supposed to release the DX12 patch at least 6 weeks ago. They have said they’re waiting on Nvidia to update their drivers.
Very very few games will actually use DX12 any time soon though we should start seeing the very first DX12 games coming out this spring and I assume within 2 years from right now DX12 will be in almost every new game made.
Gw2 could update to DX12 but it’s a massive project that isn’t happening any time soon and I’m skeptical they would do it in the first place.
That being said acting like Gw2 is ancient or somehow bad tech is a real jerk thing to do considering NO game has DX12. Just goes to show you how little people know about computers.
Build your own so you learn.
I get a consistent crash since launch when I do the WB traint usually at KQ or SB.
To prevent this crash i always restart the game at Shadow Behemoth to clear my memory. If I don’t I’m almost guaranteed to crash at Karka Queen. This has been this way since the introduction of South Sun cove. This is also the 2nd computer build Ive made that this happens on. The last being a AMD machine and this new one being a i7 Intel build.
Other than that though the megaservers work great.
I wonder if they’ll ever fix that? Got real old years ago. Now I just have committed to logging out and restarting the game every couple hours to avoid the crash.
Yes fishing! I would really like to see this at some point. Great idea. I’ve thought this myself a ton lately.
You’re right, you can just report and ignore that SAB isn’t there anymore… oh wait. Despite the fact that the comparison seems odd, don’t most (all?) complaints get backfire? You make it sound like everyone happily +1’s a whine about an aspect of the game but this thread is suddenly completely different.
You can ignore the fact that SAB isn’t there because, you know, it isn’t there. But anyway. I’m not saying everyone agrees with the other complaint threads, either. I’m just saying the threads about poor player behavior seem to get way more “Why did you waste time making a thread?” responses than the complaint threads about other things. But it’s still early for me, and I haven’t had my coffee, so I may just be remembering those threads badly.
My main point is just that I don’t get why so many people fall back on “It’s the internet” excuse when someone points out complete jackhole behavior (regardless of whether it’s the not-really-offensive stuff and the whoa-that’s-incredibly-messed-up stuff). Yes, it’s the internet, but that’s not an excuse to act like a disgusting pig/racist/bigot/misandrist/misogynist.
Nobody is saying it’s an excuse. We’re saying you have a block feature. There’s a difference.
Obviously nobody condones verbal violence. On the other hand it has been going on for 200,000 years and I dont think it’s going to stop any time soon.
Not engaging with abusers is usually your best bet in my life experience.
A Norwegian person I once knew told me something when i dated a abusive women. She said to me “You don’t have to participate” She was right. I chose to participate. I stopped shortly after.
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Report and Block.
I find it so funny that you’d rather post on the forums with something none of us have any control over yet you could have blocked and reported this person in mere seconds.
My block list has at least 100 people on it and it only took about 2 seconds per block.
We live in a world now where people would rather complain about online abuse (for attention I assume) then just deal with it and move on.
OP did say that she reported him/them. She didn’t say if she blocked them, though.
As a side note: People come to the forums to make thread after thread about how they’re going to riot if they don’t get SAB back. People come on here to whine about how the sound effects for The Dreamer have changed. People post about how mad they are that the game went free to play. These posts are all apparently fine. But a post about player behavior somehow isn’t fine. I just don’t understand the logic there. It’s cool to whine and moan about one aspect of the game, but it’s not cool to whine and moan about chat issues/player behavior.
Yes! ding ding ding! Because there’s a block feature. That is why it’s not ok to complain about.
Blocking and interacting with somebody is something YOU HAVE DIRECT CONTROL OVER, LITERALLY.
I totally agree. 3 years is way way too long to fix weapons like Guardian shield or Pistols on thief.
Balance patches should be every 2 weeks or every month. Not once every 6 months. That is irresponsible and poor leadership showing through.
Report and Block.
I find it so funny that you’d rather post on the forums with something none of us have any control over yet you could have blocked and reported this person in mere seconds.
My block list has at least 100 people on it and it only took about 2 seconds per block.
We live in a world now where people would rather complain about online abuse (for attention I assume) then just deal with it and move on.
Anita Sarkeesian comes to mind.