Guild Wars 2

Healing Signet is not so good yet not so bad right now.I mean for smallscale situations and by smallscale i really mean the small part, it is strong cause it helps the elementalist to stay on the offensive all the time, while the other heals just will make the ele go out of the hot zone to heal back up and in again which is lost precious time.On larger scale situations though, if you make one mistake and they manage to get you 60% or less you are screwed.There is no way you will be able to get back fast enough with Signet of Restoration and all that is left is for you to disengage.

I hate passive heals too, also the signet becomes a heavy disadvantage VS the condi meta, when every noob can stack on you 15 Confusion stacks and thats game over if you keep on hitting the air with 1.

lol i am running the same build with daggers.Well almost..

Yesterday in OS there was an overwelming amount of Necros/Mesmers/Engis playing with condition builds that literaly destroyed everyone in the arena.After they won some of them would make smug remarks about how good they were.I decided to give them a lesson.I went 0/10/30/0/30 Diamond Skin with Celestial armor.Had about 14k HP.The necros couldn’t do me anything and other players from their servers told me how much they hated me…so mission accomplished.
One player managed to defeat me though and even if it was a close one he played well.It was an engineer.They got enough tools to penetrate the 10% HP.The basic tactic i played for the build was when i lost some HP swap to water and go up again.If i lost more than 20% i would use Ether Renewal in Earth.This trait is only good for punishing Necros in duels who think that are godmode.

If i am going to hear another Eles are too powerfull in something,heads are going to roll.
Have you even played the class guys?Have you dueled engis/mesmers/warriors/thiefs that play builds that destroy elementalist no matter how well you play?And you complain about one build that can counter your powerfull conditions?I hope they never change that trait and that they give me the chance to retrait every time i face a guy like you relying to his uber conditions.
Here is the bucket for the tears hands bucket over

I would take celestial armor instead and put Cavalier/Knight/Berserker trinkets.
With bloodlust stacks,guard stacks you have perfect stats for WvW.
As for GvG…berserker gear?really?Unless you are so good at avoiding gank squads and doing perfect positioning every time i would say you are insane to use Berserker amror in GvGs.

I think people regret not buying the recipes when they droped in thousands and now just bash the set cause it takes time to make and money.Celestial is A LOT better than Soldier set or Knight or Berserker.(not talking about trinkets here)
If you guys are talking about dueling,then suit yourselfs,berserker might be good there IF you know what you are doing but still…High risk little reward imo.Celestial is not good only for its high critical dmg.Its good because it gives us everything.And everything is what an ele needs to be good.We done this discussion a million times.Noone is going to change his/her opinion.

In my current WvW staff build i run 110% critical dmg.Do you think it will hurt me a lot if that falls to 90% with ferocity and my critical chance/power/armor etc go up?Nope.On the contrary,it will boost my effectiveness.

I think you should all chill cause the nerf to critical dmg won’t be that huge.
Even after the supposed nerf celestial will still be one of the best options for organised WvW.Celestial make bunker builds actualy hit hard.

Man,its one of the longer fights.The problem is if the warrior is even slightly skilled and by slightly i mean generaly having his hammer stuns/knockbacks keybinded where he can use them in quick succesion,your chances at winning diminish.Cause you gotta run away from that hammer chain,you got to dodge these arrow shots and everytime he throws you off him he is regenerating at a very fast pace.

I think you have to surprise them from the very beggining or at a certain point during the duel.But good warriors…its so kittening difficult.

Um…why are you not stacking might?Fire field earth dodge and 4 and 5 since you are fighting in open field with multiple opponents.Seems to me your skills don’t have much synergy.

Good music.

Mystogan.4157:

Okay so heres a ham build i call itkittenthunda cause the shape in the traits lol
0/30/10/20/10
Air take bolt to the heart, air mastery? (10%dmg while in air) and whatever u want.
Earth take splintered stones
Water take arcane causes vuln, 20% dmg to vuln enemies while n water
Arcane take cdr
Utilities: arcane wave, arcane power and LH
Elite take fgs

Why take 10% more dmg in air when you will be in water attunement most of the time?Better take +10% crit dmg when using an arcane skill since you have 2 in your utility skills(they won’t stack)

Zabroccoli.5870:

I think he has 30 in arcane for the Evasive Arcana, dodge roll procs an attunment based spell. =) Unless my eyes deceive me.

I want to pick your brain and know your secrets. My play style is very similar but I have no where near the burst that you do. =(

Your eyes decieve you

From what i saw in the video my rough estimate would be

20 air 20 earth 20 water and 10 in arcana

Why do you need to insult him so much?He is overreacting but are you even any better?I mean..who knows?It is widely known warriors don’t have to sacrifice as much as other classes to obtain more than optimal stats.

On topic.D/D can get a bunker warrior down in WvW.I am not even gonna talk about sPvP.You fight bunker with bunker.If your ele is D/D with offesive gear (and no i do not mean full berserker) you can keep good dmg on the warrior by using your auras and having an aura up almost all the time during the fight.How do you do that?
Fire field→Earth→Magentic Grasp ALL THE kittenING TIME.(And ofc use your other 2 auras.Like that you keep fury up all the time and with decent Critical dmg you can actualy keep him around 50-60% HP consantly.When you manage to get him down that far,pop Fire elemental.Keep doing the same and combined with the elementals attack you will manage to get him lower.Most of them panic at 30-40% and they will either try to disengage/kill the elemental/or use the signet.If they use it,its game over,if they run with their 1minute stability on all you can do is follow(if you can) or consider it a win cause /chicken.If they kill the elemental now is the tme to use firegrab and Churning Earth to finish them off.For a faster fight you can even pop the elemental from the very start so he can feel the pressure.

Well i can tell you its bad luck.I get it a lot.My solution is,at the start if the day i start breaking rares,if i get 2-3 ectos from the first 3 breaks i keep on salvaging,if i get 0 i stack them and break them another day.Do the same.Its as if RNG resets daily for my account.Some days i get many ectos some others i get none

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fEAQFAWnEEVZYzBCHQlgAgyIlTmM6QDRhLKF2B-jkCBYfIYjAEEIkIAJqFRjtMMsVNDRTbDT5CQFbR1SBExyI-w

Go zerker for dungeons.Change some cantrips and the heal for WvW in order to have condi cleansing in WvW.There is a certain rotation but i will let you figure it out on your own.Nothing difficult

Thats why i mentioned some changes but in small group play conditions won’t be such a problem.Only immobilise.Assuming you have a condition remover in the party you will be okey.And with this build you can be tanky,have great sustain and a good burst when you unload everything.You don’t have the continues smaller bursts of fresh air build but i think its worth it if you wanna live more and do spikes periodicly.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fEAQJArYhEmKbzR5gjDADFdMiQhFNUekzM2A-j0CBYfBBbEkgAhsAgEBMRtIaslhhtqZIaabYKXAqYLqWKgIWGB-w

i would go for this.Some changes can be made if you want.
Such as,swap all runes to melandru,get -dondi food and Geomances Freedom instead of Rock solid

I am running almost identical stats…lol..only difference i use 2 water runes instead of 2 traveler(cause money!) and Vigor/Regen with Cantrips.Also i really hate any kind of passive effect on my characters so i usualy run ER instead of the signet.

A simple google search would get you what you wanted.
The traditional build is 0/10/0/30/30 or 0/10/10/20/30
The gear for full bunker would be PVT armor with Boon Duration runes or Divinity and cleric trinkets but you won’t be able to kill many things alone.Most elementalists running this build try to find a balance between dmg and sustain.Personaly i go for Celestial armor and Cavalier/Berserker trinkets,but starting with PVT is good to learn.

This story about “those of us who are top in ele class know each other” is making you look bad.Who made you the top,seriously?Unless there is an official system that can make pick apart the best of the best i don’t see why you self-claim to be one of the best.Last thing we need now is elitism.
And the fact that you are trying to defend one of your “own” doesn’t make you look any better.You asked for the kittenstorm of critisism when you claimed to be one of the best anyway.
Accept it and move on.Since you are so mighty a lil critisism from people that don’t know what they are talking about is nothing for you.

Truth be told and i am REALLY trying to be constructive here,is that the video is not something new neither is something spectacular when it comes to skill use(i ve said it again in a previous post).He is a good elementalist,he knows his class.

and there is no papper/scissor/stone.The hardcounters in this game are very few and for specific builds and circumstances.

ShadowNinja.1238:

yoggomo.5308:

vs condi classes like pu mesmer, engi, nec this build is not really good imho especially when using signet of restoration instead of renewal, but nicely done

Swapping to water and water 5 cures a condition each plus when you get regeneration as well as when you dodge in water. This is 4 condition clears just with water attunement.

The only time you will need ether renewal is against necromancer when they use that signet which applies like 8 conditions.

On another note the only class I think that counters Elementalist is S/D Thief as they rip your boons from you.

lol have you played vs a condition engi that knows how mask his conditions?4 condition removals are not even close to enough condition removal.Only way to defeat such builds (for me) is to take advantage of pillars and LoS.In open field you are pretty much done for unless you can dodge everything and manage to stay ontop of him.

I agree,D/D builds are getting a good boost..yay for me as it is my favorite weapon set!
On the topic,i think many of the elementalist skills are fine when it comes to the effect they provide(such as glyphs,i like glyphs!)..their cooldown can be lowered and maybe their dmg potential can take a small boost.
All in all in order for the rest of our skills to work as good as the cantrips they have to change traits,not skill effects.Arcane skills although very strong have big cds and the traits that can make them have a synergy with your build and armor are mostly useless or pale in comparisson to other traits in the same line.

Its all fine and dandy not to share your gearsets etc. but selling the attitude of “top elementalists have sacrificed x amount of golds and hours so we don’t share go test your own” doesn’t do you any justice and it makes you look like an elitist.Elementalist community friendly and helpfull?You mean between the “top” players?Ofc you might as well don’t give a kitten about sharing etc,then its okei i guess.

But know this,threads like these,even if entertaining,come down to just showing off.Nothing we haven’t seen before or be capable of doing.

Something spectacular in a vid would be if all these top elementalists did a 1vs1 tournament.I bet we would see some nice action then.

P.S. I believe that people should test their own builds and gears for their own good so as to really see what the differences are and not be lazy,but i would never deny someone if he/she asked for my opinion and help and i would tell him what i am running with so he/she can think the possibilities and decide what is best for them,not me.

On-Topic.Nice vid.The resolution is bit bad though,or is it just me?Did you record with MSIAfterburner?

I am using Celestial with a mix of Cavalier/Berserker trinkets.I thought that going a bit glassy is the way to go but recent duels with people more skilled than me taught me that i have to be tanky and try to win with patience while keeping myself up.

Celestial/Cavalier/zerk with fire elemental dish out mad dmg but without stacks and guard buffs its weaker than other armor combos.

1.Elementalist
2.Mesmer
3.Ranger

Strang.8170:

Boon duration will propably be slighlty nerfed(propably still stays viable), will have to see how it gets affected, but so might the -condi duration too. If you want to be safe wait untill the balance patch.

If you want to run the supportish boon bot build, there´s basicly few options.

Stability+protection 0/0/20/30/20 (*)
fury+protection 0/10/10/30/20
Fury+EA 0/10/0/30/30 ()
protection+EA 0/0/10/30/30
stability+EA 0/0/20/20/30 (*)

*marked builds are what i consider the best options out of those, EA builds have a lot more sustain compared to those without, but lack bit of boon uptime of the non-EA builds, however they do have heals/blinds/blasts from EA.

Good thing about all of those is, that you can run them with the same gear, so you can swap simply by retraiting and do anything your group needs.

<Edit> dman forum code messing the post up…wellit´s readable anyhow

Oho.Indeed.Maybe i will just wait for the patch.How many D/D auramancers/buffers would you reckon a raid with 30 people should have?1 or 2?

On a separate note we fought you yesterday in WvW.[ObV] guild,you guys have gotten even better from when you left Piken

lol i forgot to change the traits as i was making a staff build previously.
Okei then first seems more viable,but boon duration is bound to change will it still be worth it if i cannot get 2xwater 2xmonk 2xTraveler?

So i am trying to make a build for D/D auramancer to use with my WvW guild.We usualy run as 20-25man raid.
I ve come down to 2 possible builds and i am asking you the almighty Elementalist forum community to give me your feedback.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fEEQJAoYhEmmbwR5wjDAkHwcSJDFiMSRROzA-j0CBYfIYgBkgAh+AkEBI5rIaslRFRjVbDTFjIq2aGyiGWKAmEGB-w

and

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fEEQJAoYhEmmbwR5wjEAkHwcSJDFiMiowDlC5A-j0CBYfIYgBkgAh+AkEBI5rIaslRFRjVbDTFjIq2aGyiGWKAmEGB-w

wow…Seems a “bit” OP..but tbh its what i always wanted for my ele.Some controlable quickness to be sure i can land those bursts.

If you freeze the video you can see he is facing towards you when he does it meaning he has his opponent on his back.

On another note,this video shows how everyone and his grandma used to play D/D when it was OP.

In sPvP..Classic D/D build is very good for tournaments,you can keep points like a boss and with a little help from your fire elemental elite you can penetrate ANY bunker class.Elementalist builds his damage,you start out slow and then when those might stacks pile up you release the burst and they don’t know where it came from.In a month Dagger main hand is getting a nice boost so try it out.But yes as someone else said,i am playing D/D ele for more than a year now and i am still learning and adapting.I used to be a Gua but i went ele and never looked back.I play most of the classes but the elementalist has the most rewarding gameplay.I love the class.

Yes a good dmg build for staff ran by 2-3 elementalists can change the tide in a fight.
We are not only control and support.We can do massive A-O-E damage as well.

Anyway i am pretty sure i have figured out Cellofrags build but i must be missing some stuff concerning his armor or Runes cause i definitly don’t see such numbers.

Do you realise that pool of players in WvW that are above average are exactly the same(maybe even less) with the ones in spvp.The rest are cannon fodder.
All classes get stronger in WvW because of slightly different skills effects and gear customisation.But the elementalist getss a tremendous boost being able to juggle with ALL stats and very good damage through high power(3k+) precision(around 50% with auras) and huge Critical dmg(100%)

Right now the only thing that can beat a good ele in 1vs1 is P/D thief because even with the classic D/D spec your condition removal is not enough to outlast the thiefs conditions applying,unless you use your surroundings to LOS his pistol shots.In open field if he is not squishy its pretty much a loss for me.And usually they run with like 3k armor -.-

Mesmers and warriors are really strong classes but like us have telegraphed skills.That means you can avoid skullcracker/shatter/iBerserker/Earthshaker etc.Imagine now,in the next patch you will be able to run Battle/Energy+Vigor from cantrips+II Arcana+Burning Speed evade.What exactly is gonna hit you,unless you kitten up?
(Ofc a better player than you will probably wreck you)

Only bad thing about next patch is celestial,cause its by far the best gear for a roaming D/D ele and its gonna be nerfed.Besides us only guardians make a good use of this set and tbh i haven’t found many good roaming Guas in WvW.I really don’t wanna jump to conclusions and i hope that the nerf is a lot less than it appears to be so far.

Noobduration is overated.The new bonus from the revamped runes will be even more better for ele.I ve been running 2xwater 4 divinity for some time now.Never looked back to 2xwater 2xmonk 2xtraveler.If you can land your Earth grabs well enough your aura uptime is really really good considering you have 3 auras with D/D.

Also wtf…evasion with Burning speed.Eles will be kings in 1vs1 now.I say next patch is a boost.

Thats not even close to what he is playing imo.

Try 0/0/25/25/10 with traits like +10% dmg withing 600range and more dmg to bleeding foes…piercing shards and regen/vigor with cantrips on water.I thinks that is his build.

Celestial armor-Divinity..Cavalier ascended trinkets.Celestial weapon.Food +200 ap on kill +10% crit dmg.Now see the traits ,see his rotation and also consider that he is running with a group that is giving him a lot of boons

Actualy if you manage to down 5 noobs you should feel very proud lol.
You have won vs impossible odds!A victory is a victory.
Today i was roaming with a really good thief and we had some amazing fights.We killed many players and we were outnumbered in almost every fight.
So if you have a buddy that plays a fast class like yours and knows his ways in and out you will love roaming even more.

lol..i love how you know your class guys!Pay more attention to his rotation and attunement effects and you may be able to understand his build.Also his HP and crit dmg give away his armor.

@Special Kay Sitting back as a staff Ele and killing things while providing CC is what a good staff ele should do

@LordByron How is 3k armor unviable and a rallybot with 20k HP and so high crits.In case you didn’t understand he is not going down the “kittenberserkur armor omg such dmg so die”

I agree though,not sharing the build is not so nice.Where is the love?

Chesire.9043:

I played d/d closer towards release and loved it but since ele was so popular then I dropped it (I don’t like bandwagons). However since being away from the game since September and finding no hope in any decent Necro changes, I’ve decided that if I came back to the game ele would be my next experiment.

That being said, as far as WvW, how do you’d feel S/D builds are fairing these days as a solo roamer and/or camp flipper?

I’m sure staff or dagger would be better at camps since they both have good AE fields, but I’m not sure I could play staff effectively if I got ganked by another player. I’d rather not go back to d/d I’d at all possible simply because of it’s popularity. That leaves me with S/D and I’ve seen some really bursty s/d videos but mainly just from PvP.

Would s/d be kitten against the popular wvw builds of classes like Wars and Thieves?

Hmm…you don’t take camps with your weapons.You take them with Fiery Greatsword.Corner pull the mobs,use 4,3,5…mobs are dead,cap the camp.

D/D in WvW is in the same place as it was when Excala showed the devs what god-mode is and it got nerfed a lot.That doesn’t mean the gameplay is not spectacular anymore or that you cannot outlast 2 or 3 enemies.

Yes against very good players you are gonna have a hard time.Specialy thieves.And they tend to run in duos in WvW nowadays.

The good thing with WvW you can play the classic bunker spec 0/10/0/30/30 and go full celestial gear (with divinity and or Boon Duration) and cavalier and trinkets for devastating attacks while retaining a lot of armor.Yesterday i crited a poor thief for 8k firegrab and he was not full berserker.

Another nice build that bypasses a lot of conditions is 0/0/20/20/30 with melandru runes preferably.

Finaly keep in mind that the rune changes and the crit dmg nerf is going to cripple Elementalists offensive capabilities so i would advise to wait a little before spending money and mats to make new armor and trinkets.Personaly i will be going back to either Knights or PVT set for solo roaming.

About S/D there are 2 builds that are effective in WvW for solo combat.
0/30/0/10/30
0/20/20/0/30
Might be more,not playing a lot of S/D the last months.

Rytlock dies in the final chapter of Scarlets story,his warband is revealed and Destinys Edge is broken handing the reigns to Destinys Edge 2.Also Rox doesn’t have to stop adventuring with Braham.Game of Thrones fitting end. /discuss

Personaly i try to use magnetic grasp with burning speed to build might at te start of the fight.Its easy if the enemy tries to avoid burning speed going backwards(they usualy do) but more experienced enemies will usually go forward and then its difficult to land magnetic grasp.

Anyway if you use boon duration sigil of battle you can stack so much might,but you have to keep it together so as not to let the enemy mess your rotation.Ofc the regular combo that gives you 13 stacks is more than enough.

You are quick enough to play D/D nicely but it seems you do not use all your moves to full capacity.3 in particular

1)Air 2.So usefull when playing against warriors/guardians specialy in solo situations where you want a bit more dmg.I think you never used it in the vid

2)Magnetic Grasp-Fire field→Fire Aura for more might and to catch fleeing foes.Very nice if you are prepared to take some hits in order to land a much bigger burst

3)Churning Earth.When playing with a group in WvW and you are not focused a churning earth from behind to unsuspecting foes will most probably destroy them.Works as a nice feint in 1vs1 as well.

What program are you using to record?

Don’t worry dude all these know it all pros telling you to L2P obviously know the exact moment and angle that an invisible enemy will backstab you while you are moving around.

It IS experience because fighting burst builds like that you anticipate whats going to happen BUT luck IS also a very large factor.

When i am hard pressed and i know a huge nuke like that is comming i will waste a big cooldown like Updraft to unbalance the thief and if i don’t succeed at least i will avoid some dmg.Also i can counter attack with Fire or even air attunement depending on the situation.

Usualy a thief will be very good if he manages to kill you 1vs1 cause thats where you can see how skillfull they are.I am not talking for button 2 mashers.I get kittened at them too but its not worth it.

I have to admit though very skilled thieves will own me 80% of the time and i can carry my own wheight.

If you don’t want to do Fractals there is no good reason for you to craft an ascended set.Unless you want a stat boost of 3-4%(celestial is 5% i think) for the cost of a cheap legendary if you have no mats.Specialy light armors,silks etc cost a fortune now.

Celestial is perfect in WvW for organised play , for zerging and for roaming alone.Personally i have found ideal stats with Celestial having:
1)Full celestial armor-Divinity Runes
2)Cavalier trinkets-Ascended,one Berserker amulet
3)Berserker or Celestial staff.I got the legendary so its not a problem.
With Bloodlust stacks and Stones/Food that gives 200 power on kill you can pass 3k power easily while having good armor ultra high crit dmg ,good crit chance, nice healing power etc.Even if you trait for support you will still hit hard with Tornado+Meteor

It won’t matter with the current meta.1vs1 maybe but i would never take out Ether renewal from my bar.Saved me thousands of times.Conditions will reck you without it.

Why 30/10/10/10/10 when with 25 points in air you get Weak Spot and with 10 in water Piercing Shards.Do Meteor go water attunement and hit meteor.See numbers!
Zerker is nice if you want to have an effective power near 8k but i have tested it and even if you run with an organised guild you are a walking corpse should you decide to go for that chokepoint where you guild-blob needs to pass in order to do any dmg at all.Specialy with Scholar runes.Celestial is the best alternative.Huge survivability difference and a little less dmg.

Ah jes..Or simply 2 berserker thiefs that can open on one target on the same time.No matter how tanky they are the health will drop bellow 50%.After that its your usual spam 2 button..or maybe do that from the start.

Immobilisation pro skill spam helps a lot as well.How many times will they get it off them?
Necros are not a problem usualy for D/D condi cleanse ele..if they are running cleansing fire its even easier.If they are 2 even more easier.You cannot get the double conditions while they do have double condi removal since they are 2

I think in the vid most of the times that you went meteor/tornado combo you were above 90%.I ve been running full berserker these days and its not as difficult as i thought it would be to stay on 90% all the time.You have to keep maximum distance ofc.
If not scholar runes then what?.Eagle maybe?Boon duration with such dmg seems unlikely.

I am trying really hard to discover your spec.Its so fun!
Currently i am running 25/25/0/10/10 but it seems subpar to what you are running right now.Most i have seen to crit is 12 maybe 13k.

I am almost sure you are sth like 0/25(at least)/20/x/10(or more)
Also it would be nice if we could see what the dmg is against organised guilds where the pain train is stacked with High Armor

Nice vid.I think i found you in an SPVP match the other day.Are your trinkets full berserker?Cause your armor looks like 100% berserker though i do not know what runes you use.

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