lol, this is yet another example of anet failing to respond to what players want. The EU want a reset time that is reasonable so that they may participate which is completely understandable. So why would you move the NA start time earlier when its only the EU that needs a time fix? I get off work at 5 est, I get to sit in traffic till say 5:30-5:45 and then I have to cook dinner. How on earth will anyone with some sort of a normal life ever be able to make a 6pm est reset time, not to mention the guys on the west coast get screwed even more. The queues alone on reset night are already bad, so I guess any chance of getting in on reset night is all but gone at this point thanks anet!
Look at which server is #1 NA and learn from them. Spend some time to study their tactics, find out why JQ is winning almost every week and try to counter those tactics.
I personally have been studying EMP as of late, are those centaur runes you guys are using? You have no idea how sad it makes me when I see all those walking running bags outpace me.
I think that’s where the problem lies. You see an 80+ zergball as only 20 people. Heck, you don’t even include your sister guild TWL as part of the 20 man group when they all basically follow the same leader. It’s like a leader of an 45+ guild forming a sister guild with him being the lone member and then leading his 45+ members around claiming he has wiped 50+ zergs as a 1 man guild.
Ugh are we still talking to each other, this is my last post of the night I promise! TWL is not a sister guild, its a recruit guild and it averages less then 10 a night. That makes our force a whopping 30-35 vs an entire BL. I’m really not sure what we are even discussing at this point, I guess you got wiped by TW and feel a bit tender?
Oh wait here, so it’s 30-35 now and not 20 anymore? That was why I wanted you to confirm what the number was. So, you changed it from 20 to 30-35 in less than 1 hour. Tomorrow, would it be up to 50?
I haven’t been wiped but I just want to prove that the numbers you “see” or “tell us” isn’t what it seems to be. And my point is proven….
Your question asked how many TW has, TW has 20-25. Then you were the one talking about the recruit guild which would be an average of 10. Add those both together and you get 30-35. I simply answered your question about how many TW had, you never asked how many TWL had.
TWL is TW but just with a different tag. To even think they’re different is just trying to deceive the “real” number. To exaggerate the example, it’s like Indo telling everyone to go to TWL. So even though everyone in TWL sees him as the leader, all go to the same teamspeak, all follow his commands, and all share the same resources. And then his led team wipes a 50+ zerg. Do you think it makes sense for him to claim that his 1 man TW guild just wiped a 50+ zerg? Of course not. Any logical person would know it’s TW/TWL or basically one guild, that wiped the 50+ zerg.
For him to claim it’s 1 man guild or in your case (a strong 20 man group) is just trying to hide the true number of the force that is fighting which basically the point I’m trying to make.
All I read out of that is dkjfdlkjdf QQ. It is too late for this kinda talk at this point, Let’s all go to bed and maybe talk about this tomorrow!
I think that’s where the problem lies. You see an 80+ zergball as only 20 people. Heck, you don’t even include your sister guild TWL as part of the 20 man group when they all basically follow the same leader. It’s like a leader of an 45+ guild forming a sister guild with him being the lone member and then leading his 45+ members around claiming he has wiped 50+ zergs as a 1 man guild.
Ugh are we still talking to each other, this is my last post of the night I promise! TWL is not a sister guild, its a recruit guild and it averages less then 10 a night. That makes our force a whopping 30-35 vs an entire BL. I’m really not sure what we are even discussing at this point, I guess you got wiped by TW and feel a bit tender?
Oh wait here, so it’s 30-35 now and not 20 anymore? That was why I wanted you to confirm what the number was. So, you changed it from 20 to 30-35 in less than 1 hour. Tomorrow, would it be up to 50?
I haven’t been wiped but I just want to prove that the numbers you “see” or “tell us” isn’t what it seems to be. And my point is proven….
Your question asked how many TW has, TW has 20-25. Then you were the one talking about the recruit guild which would be an average of 10. Add those both together and you get 30-35. I simply answered your question about how many TW had, you never asked how many TWL had.
Def only 20-25. I can count gud too Hoots!
Looks like you spell good too!
I think that’s where the problem lies. You see an 80+ zergball as only 20 people. Heck, you don’t even include your sister guild TWL as part of the 20 man group when they all basically follow the same leader. It’s like a leader of an 45+ guild forming a sister guild with him being the lone member and then leading his 45+ members around claiming he has wiped 50+ zergs as a 1 man guild.
Ugh are we still talking to each other, this is my last post of the night I promise! TWL is not a sister guild, its a recruit guild and it averages less then 10 a night. That makes our force a whopping 30-35 vs an entire BL. I’m really not sure what we are even discussing at this point, I guess you got wiped by TW and feel a bit tender?
Nah, that’s not true. When I see an 80+ zergball, I know it’s an 80+ zergball. That screenshot does not show an 80+ zergball. Next time you play, just look around you. That’s an 80+ zergball.
I’m confused then, what is that you see there? I see a main force lead by noodles with 40 and a flank group of 30+, if you nudge one of those forces the other comes in to flank hard which in turn creates your “zergball” as you say. I would agree with you if they actually ran around doing various things apart from one another but the fact remains that they are running around connected at the hip, which in turn is producing a loot pinata for everyone on SoR.
I think you’re the only one confused. Again, I repeat. I know what an 80+ zergball is when I see one. If you do not know what an 80+ zergball is, please log in tonight and look around you.
I’m looking around me and all I see is a emp “zergball”, is that what your referring too?
Now you’re even more confused. The zergball I’m talking about is not red.
I’ll admit I am actually confused, so your trying to say SoR is running a zergball and not EMP, even though in the image posted its EMP that has the 70+zergball standing outside of garrison?
I think what you’re confused at is that you do not know what an 80+ zergball is. Seriously, let me give you the steps to figure out what an 80+ zergbal is.
1) Log into the game.
2) Click on the wvw icon.
3) Run to a commander pin.
4) Look around you and pay attention to what is not red.
5) There, that’s a zergball.You have blown my mind, literally. We obviously have different opinions on what a “zergball” is. Go ahead and follow those steps yourself and see what you come up with, EMP’s zergball is currently on SoR BL.
I think so to because I have heard repeatedly from you guys that your group is only 25 max. You want to ask other servers who have faced SOR to see if that is true?
So BG, do you think the SOR zergball is 25 max? JQ, same question, is it 25 max?
Don’t get so heated, it is just a game at the end of the day. SoR has and does run zergballs, of that I was not arguing with. Those zergballs are formed for various reasons that could possibly be above your comprehension but I will attempt to explain as well as Jed did in last weeks post? Guild A. beats guild B, Guild B rally’s more forces to fight Guild A.. Guild A wipes and rallys more to fight the Guild B + friends and i’m hoping you can piece the rest of that puzzle together yourself. Fact remains TW is 20 strong every night, when EMP comes onto a map with 50+ guildies, of course we are gonna grab Tsym as a flank group or vice versa when we simply cant field that many numbers.
So we have a confirmation that TW is 20 strong every night right?
Thought it was common knowledge but 20-25 is the average every single night, kinda embarrassing when you wipe to so few huh
Nah, that’s not true. When I see an 80+ zergball, I know it’s an 80+ zergball. That screenshot does not show an 80+ zergball. Next time you play, just look around you. That’s an 80+ zergball.
I’m confused then, what is that you see there? I see a main force lead by noodles with 40 and a flank group of 30+, if you nudge one of those forces the other comes in to flank hard which in turn creates your “zergball” as you say. I would agree with you if they actually ran around doing various things apart from one another but the fact remains that they are running around connected at the hip, which in turn is producing a loot pinata for everyone on SoR.
I think you’re the only one confused. Again, I repeat. I know what an 80+ zergball is when I see one. If you do not know what an 80+ zergball is, please log in tonight and look around you.
I’m looking around me and all I see is a emp “zergball”, is that what your referring too?
Now you’re even more confused. The zergball I’m talking about is not red.
I’ll admit I am actually confused, so your trying to say SoR is running a zergball and not EMP, even though in the image posted its EMP that has the 70+zergball standing outside of garrison?
I think what you’re confused at is that you do not know what an 80+ zergball is. Seriously, let me give you the steps to figure out what an 80+ zergbal is.
1) Log into the game.
2) Click on the wvw icon.
3) Run to a commander pin.
4) Look around you and pay attention to what is not red.
5) There, that’s a zergball.You have blown my mind, literally. We obviously have different opinions on what a “zergball” is. Go ahead and follow those steps yourself and see what you come up with, EMP’s zergball is currently on SoR BL.
I think so to because I have heard repeatedly from you guys that your group is only 25 max. You want to ask other servers who have faced SOR to see if that is true?
So BG, do you think the SOR zergball is 25 max? JQ, same question, is it 25 max?
Don’t get so heated, it is just a game at the end of the day. SoR has and does run zergballs, of that I was not arguing with. Those zergballs are formed for various reasons that could possibly be above your comprehension but I will attempt to explain as well as Jed did in last weeks post? Guild A. beats guild B, Guild B rally’s more forces to fight Guild A.. Guild A wipes and rallys more to fight the Guild B + friends and i’m hoping you can piece the rest of that puzzle together yourself. Fact remains TW is 20 strong every night, when EMP comes onto a map with 50+ guildies, of course we are gonna grab Tsym as a flank group or vice versa when we simply cant field that many numbers.
Nah, that’s not true. When I see an 80+ zergball, I know it’s an 80+ zergball. That screenshot does not show an 80+ zergball. Next time you play, just look around you. That’s an 80+ zergball.
I’m confused then, what is that you see there? I see a main force lead by noodles with 40 and a flank group of 30+, if you nudge one of those forces the other comes in to flank hard which in turn creates your “zergball” as you say. I would agree with you if they actually ran around doing various things apart from one another but the fact remains that they are running around connected at the hip, which in turn is producing a loot pinata for everyone on SoR.
I think you’re the only one confused. Again, I repeat. I know what an 80+ zergball is when I see one. If you do not know what an 80+ zergball is, please log in tonight and look around you.
I’m looking around me and all I see is a emp “zergball”, is that what your referring too?
Now you’re even more confused. The zergball I’m talking about is not red.
I’ll admit I am actually confused, so your trying to say SoR is running a zergball and not EMP, even though in the image posted its EMP that has the 70+zergball standing outside of garrison?
I think what you’re confused at is that you do not know what an 80+ zergball is. Seriously, let me give you the steps to figure out what an 80+ zergbal is.
1) Log into the game.
2) Click on the wvw icon.
3) Run to a commander pin.
4) Look around you and pay attention to what is not red.
5) There, that’s a zergball.
You have blown my mind, literally. We obviously have different opinions on what a “zergball” is. Go ahead and follow those steps yourself and see what you come up with, EMP’s zergball is currently on SoR BL.
Nah, that’s not true. When I see an 80+ zergball, I know it’s an 80+ zergball. That screenshot does not show an 80+ zergball. Next time you play, just look around you. That’s an 80+ zergball.
I’m confused then, what is that you see there? I see a main force lead by noodles with 40 and a flank group of 30+, if you nudge one of those forces the other comes in to flank hard which in turn creates your “zergball” as you say. I would agree with you if they actually ran around doing various things apart from one another but the fact remains that they are running around connected at the hip, which in turn is producing a loot pinata for everyone on SoR.
I think you’re the only one confused. Again, I repeat. I know what an 80+ zergball is when I see one. If you do not know what an 80+ zergball is, please log in tonight and look around you.
I’m looking around me and all I see is a emp “zergball”, is that what your referring too?
Now you’re even more confused. The zergball I’m talking about is not red.
I’ll admit I am actually confused, so your trying to say SoR is running a zergball and not EMP, even though in the image posted its EMP that has the 70+zergball standing outside of garrison?
Nah, that’s not true. When I see an 80+ zergball, I know it’s an 80+ zergball. That screenshot does not show an 80+ zergball. Next time you play, just look around you. That’s an 80+ zergball.
I’m confused then, what is that you see there? I see a main force lead by noodles with 40 and a flank group of 30+, if you nudge one of those forces the other comes in to flank hard which in turn creates your “zergball” as you say. I would agree with you if they actually ran around doing various things apart from one another but the fact remains that they are running around connected at the hip, which in turn is producing a loot pinata for everyone on SoR.
I think you’re the only one confused. Again, I repeat. I know what an 80+ zergball is when I see one. If you do not know what an 80+ zergball is, please log in tonight and look around you.
I’m looking around me and all I see is a emp “zergball”, is that what your referring too?
Nah, that’s not true. When I see an 80+ zergball, I know it’s an 80+ zergball. That screenshot does not show an 80+ zergball. Next time you play, just look around you. That’s an 80+ zergball.
I’m confused then, what is that you see there? I see a main force lead by noodles with 40 and a flank group of 30+, if you nudge one of those forces the other comes in to flank hard which in turn creates your “zergball” as you say. I would agree with you if they actually ran around doing various things apart from one another but the fact remains that they are running around connected at the hip, which in turn is producing a loot pinata for everyone on SoR.
Great community server, with the best sea/oceanic guilds in game. What more needs to be said!
Come to SoR BL for reset and I’ll show you a few guilds that you missed
Now I am excited! Icoa wants to fight TW??
That north hills fight was quite fun, it was nice to have a solid open field fight. Its been a long time for [TW] at least, to have a guild fight them in the field.
This is pretty funny considering TW ran away from the JQ pug zerg to hide in a tower twice yesterday in EB when I was there. I was the warrior who attacked the legendary hammer wielding TW commander tag and got pounced on by all of you when he was half dead because he couldn’t take me on his own as he tried to run into wildcreek after getting chased out of rogues. I doubt you guys remember, but to me it was hilarious. In fact, the only thing you guys seemed to do was take our towers BG had already flipped when we were fighting each other, and attack JQs keep when BG was distracting us and attacking it from the other side….. then get half killed and run away again and wait for BG to come back to support your push.
Hmm, don’t remember being in EB yesterday but then again we do have guys who play with our pugs during the day. Our main force starts at around 7:30pm est.
GIVE US back the Orbs….PLEASZEEE.
That would be the worst possible decision.
The only way I would support the orbs if if they gave your team reduced versions of the outmanned buff. +MF & 50% chance your gear won’t be damaged on death. Stuff like that.
The Orbs were completely broken from day-1, and were rightfully removed.
The orbs were broken, and hacked etc. but honestly WvW needs the orbs back to balance WvW, if anything give them a 10-15 point value for holding it and simply leave the buffs/perks off them all together.
I forgot to do this last night, got to busy hanging with friends after WvW.
I wanted to give a shoutout to SoR’s Tempest Wolves [TW] Guild (and firends) last night on SoR bl (About 5:30-6:30 p.m. server time) I was leading my [LW] guys, as well as our ally [LAW] and others in our militia. ‘Twas a lot of fun fighting you near north and south Hills. I remember how earlier on in the night, we were fighting at north Hills, and slowly kept losing our guys, but took y’all about 15 min to kill us all. xD.
Also way to have discipline and not pursue us when we tried baiting you back towards the bridge leading to Bluelake tower.
Lots of fun, looking forward to more engagements!
-Sir Tryce [LW]
That north hills fight was quite fun, it was nice to have a solid open field fight. Its been a long time for [TW] at least, to have a guild fight them in the field. Anyways props for the epic fight, and can’t wait to see you guys out there!
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Hmm more damage control for BG? Vodka has successfully posted 13 of the 26 posts on this page, all within the last hour. I guess the fact there NA has become a non-factor has made them defensive.
I’d love to be able to see my own name
I love the idea of this thread, but I have to agree with jayne, I’m one of those odd players that likes to see my own nameplate on my head as well.
The leaderboards are pointless, why would it not have a realtime score tracker. Leaderboards need a lot of work such as adding in
-Real time score tracking
-Most kills
-Highest WvW rank
-Who earned most points for server by guild
I’m sure there are a lot more things needing to be added but as it stands now, I don’t see anyone actually using this feature.
The quicker they rise, the quicker they fall.
R.I.P. “Beastgate” (2013-2013)
SoR is trying to make Blackgate look like it’s dieing to make our community less appealing to people that are thinking about transferring :P
Just ignore them
lol read guru’s post from a KnT member explaining how they were running 3 BL’s trying to maintain the ppt with their guild alone the other night. Whenever a guild is forced to fill the gaps left by the fickle guilds/members, you know a server is close to imploding. All the servers that dissolved/imploded before them had similar events occur right before they broke. So that is the reason that a lot of people are posting R.I.P BG
Except BG. Twice.
Oh don’t worry. Judging from this thread a bunch of us are just waiting around for the historical pattern to assert itself.
I’m betting they have another 3-4 weeks left.
Holy Kitten,
I never appreciated until now how tasty BGs tears are in this forum and amazed they are able to be produced at such quantity! My hats off to SoR for using their extensive history with BG and their superior skill at drama milking BG. JQ simply can’t compete.
The BG tears are so extensive that at times we actually had to stop milking the tears in t2 for days on end.
How are SoR zergs instantly killing siege with 20k hits? All of our siege on that wall gone with 15seconds.
Anet patched the game to allow SoR to destroy all siege with 20k hits within 15 seconds, did you even read the patch notes?
Amazing how many hours and time BG has to pour into WvW just to stay competitive in T1. Everyone claimed SoR went out in force last week but in reality we played normal hours on a normal schedule and still beat BG. JQ on the other hand lost one week from the try-hard BG and went out in force last week, but the end result I’m sure showed JQ’ers that its not even required to go full force to take BG out. I’m starting to think that BG as a server does not understand how the elo system works, when you push for 1st and then come back the week after and not maintain the same ppt/end result, you end up losing points. This week it looks as if they are gonna push for 1st again, which again makes no sense with the current system because they will not be able to maintain 1st in t1 with JQ around. Might be time for BG to start playing smart, and within there own limts. At this point BG is shaping up to be the next server to burn themselves out with all this try-hard they are doing. Hint the fact JQ and SoR are taking bets on how long BG can survive in T1
Hope your happy JQ and BG, SoR’s NA now makes your breakout events into a game.
The huge zergballs that have formed are quite annoying, I am dreading reset night Regardless though the fights last night were quite fun for all of us on SoR. TW has opted to start leaving the zerg and dropping commander tags in an effort to break off from the zergfest but even that proves difficult. All we can do is hope Anet can fix the functionality of commander tags so we may once again run as guilds again.
I would like to see a guild emblem commander tag only visible to guildies.
There should be 2 options when leading A.Tag visible to everyone B.Tag visible to guild, would solve alot of issues. After all this game is called Guild Wars
We somehow ended up in this really huge freakin’ zergball, then I had to bail. We were only meaning to auto attack gates down with fists. Then we had to upgrade to lvl 3 fists which were golems. Then mindless throw ourselves at doors and see how that goes. It was quite amusing, at least when I was on. Keep in mind we are all here for entertainment, and if you can auto attack down a door to save 48 silver on rams for two sets of gates, mise as well right?
I got the footage of us crackin’ through bay and hills I believe. We were going to siege up hills and make BG spawn side our spawn again like last week. Yet, we opted not? Last night we had like massive numbers on map as well, well at least form our guild. I think we had 40 on map in one team! That was ridiculous! Then you add in all the randomly guilded ppl out there, I was like, this was outmanned when we came in…
The huge zergballs that have formed are quite annoying, I am dreading reset night Regardless though the fights last night were quite fun for all of us on SoR. TW has opted to start leaving the zerg and dropping commander tags in an effort to break off from the zergfest but even that proves difficult. All we can do is hope Anet can fix the functionality of commander tags so we may once again run as guilds again.
I personally think the Blackgate War Council is preparing for the long-term situations when we’re in the top spot and we have 2 other servers that are trying to dethrone us…
lol wtf is a “Blackgate War Council”? Did Menaace join BG?
I love this idea, in fact I said about the same thing yesterday in guild chat. T1 is one big brainless zergfest atm, this would fix a lot of issues I think.
Hi everyone. Had fun last night running with TIN on whatever map I was on (dunno, was hard to tell from the bottom of that bottle). Greatest guild ever. EVER.
Just one of many future new guilds we enticed over for a few days with our vast reserves of gold allocated for both recruiting new guilds and server jumpers. It’s the only way we can win.
Good to know someone on JQ understands why they win!
Thanks for garrison JQ! Must be frustrating to have to redo waypoint in garrison so many times with the amount of coverage you guys have.
Nah we can handle losing a garrison. Not sure how we would handle coming a distant 3rd every week though.
With the amount coverage JQ has, I’m sure that a 3rd place finish would cause some major internal drama!
Does TW do anything other than post on forums and zerg with “TWL” and <insert fellow zerg-baller here>?
We took your borderland.
Thanks for garrison JQ! Must be frustrating to have to redo waypoint in garrison so many times with the amount of coverage you guys have.
Cool down kid, what have we done to you… Oh wait..
You have punished our doors far too much!
Thanks for garrison JQ! Must be frustrating to have to redo waypoint in garrison so many times with the amount of coverage you guys have.
Blackgate is not on this morning (Outmanned in JQ/SoR and no queue on any map), and we know SoR doesn’t have the balls to attack JQ.
JQ just simply paid us more to allow them to win.
Blackgate, not sure if you heard of them. They are a t1 server that is currently complaining about a double team and loss of active guilds this week.
Ahh sorry. I didn’t realize servers could talk. My bad.
Not your fault!
T1 is so funny, last two weeks SoR farms kills rather then ppt and everyone claims we are wasting our time not playing ppt game and need to drop a tier, this week SoR goes for ppt and now everyone is complaining because we apparently don’t bring the fights, and are constantly double teaming everyone forcing guilds to stop playing? I hear PvE is nice this time of the year BG.
Sorry, but who is this “everyone” you speak of?
Blackgate, not sure if you heard of them. They are a t1 server that is currently complaining about a double team and loss of active guilds this week.
I know people are going to call QQ, but SoR is to blame for the lack of good fights from BG this week. We only have 1 guild on in BG at this point and they are fighting a large JQ zerg in EBG. Our ppt is ranging from 85-105. While we’re duking it out with JQ and basically all the BL maps are completely silent and have plenty of points to capture, SoR decides to bring their zerg of about 80+ members to attack us at the same time.This is only one out of many instances.
I know I’d say “QQ” if someone else was saying this, but if you want a reason for the lack of effort this week, it’s because Choo & co. are griefing our players when there is already enough stress on our ppt. Not surprised you guys have such a bad reputation.
I just hope our Oceanic & SEA guilds don’t get too discouraged.
T1 is so funny, last two weeks SoR farms kills rather then ppt and everyone claims we are wasting our time not playing ppt game and need to drop a tier, this week SoR goes for ppt and now everyone is complaining because we apparently don’t bring the fights, and are constantly double teaming everyone forcing guilds to stop playing? I hear PvE is nice this time of the year BG.
We refuse to work with guilds that create so much hostility and harassment.
But TW loves you noodles! We always target you first on inc!
Us players on SoR don’t even use our fingers to press keys. We just smash our face on our keyboard over and over.
I prefer just mashing the pretty pictures and watching the effects! So mesmerizing!!
I’m not talking about strategy, I am talking about 80 people from a server running in a single force breaking the game. Please read before you try to argue against me. I have not yet found a single person who can justify why running with your entire BL in one force is good.
Foo runs a full bl during oceanic. Coincidentally they dominate ppt during that time.
Ah, it was only a 10k PPT lead? That definitely requires an all hands server emergency meeting. I wonder about those folks in TW.
Winning in t1 is srs bsns