I wouldn’t encourage learning from another game, because that in many cases leads to replicas. I’d say learn from your mistakes and encourage innovation, listen to your community of selected constructive feedback.
If you want to know why the content being pushed out by Anet has been lackluster go to this link, sign in with with a free account or your Facebook, and just read the reviews by people who have worked there. There’s only about 80 or so, but the vast majority all say the same stuff.
All your questions will be answered… its pretty much what your average critically thinking customer would expect based on the product they are receiving.
https://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/ArenaNet-Reviews-E255820.htm
Woaw… speechless
But what i feel is the most insulting is the lack of communication.
Yes the game is unfinished, yes the 95% of the new skins aren’t unlockable in the game but in the gemstore, yes fractals have been garbage for almost 2 months, yes dungeons have became a waistland BUT all of this, all these flaws could have been ignored (at least by me) if Anet communicated with us.This technique of not telling us Kitten, is toxic for their image and for our experience. We paid for an unfinished product and they refuse to give us information now that they have our money.
Actions above words. The moment first reports surfaced about something they should’ve gotten on to it. They are paid to do that.
Also, don’t be ignorant about anything important. Being ignorant, among other things, is the reason why things fall apart.
I equate HoT to D3:reaper of souls.
And who still plays D3? I sure as hell dont…..
Most ridiculous comparison. Those two have nothing in common. D3 is far superior to HoT. And yer, a lot of people play it, me included.
As long as the Gemstore dosen´t give combat advantages you can´t get in game with a resonable amount of time spent i am totaly fine.
There’s nothing wrong with a model where IF people want they can spend extra bucks on nice items that don’t give them advantage over others,
however,
if more content that starts to have impact on the way you play is gated behind real money (game nerfs that either transform casual players to hardcore or force them to reach for their wallet) it becomes a problem.
Those who still defend ANet saying they need to make money saying it has no impact on the game are wrong. The course has long been changed and it is slowly becoming P2W.
Either your grind a lot or you spend money, because getting gold has become difficult, dungeons are crippled, HoT content is forced on users, Guild Halls and WvW are a fiasco… I mean, it cannot be more obvious than this.
WvW/Fractals/Dungeons are dead. What is left in GW2? I don’t care about the story and for the moment, I have no goals apart from getting insane amounts of gold to unlock gems store things which isn’t plausible.
What do you guys do atm?
I’m pretty much contemplating the same – what to do with wasted money? WvW was probably the only thing that kept me going, but now the population in WvW decreased dramatically so it’s hardly worth entering.
Dungeons were my favourite part of the game because of the nice armours and weapons one could get. Now it’s close to impossible to even convince someone to do them and rumours (Reddit posts and posts on this forum as well as people in game) say they will soon be history. Bummer.
HoT content is aimed at hardcore players more than casuals. They encourage PVP with broken/imbalanced classes.
All I can think of are Silverwastes, but those also often lack people because of raids in HoT, but that part is also greatly disliked from what I read.
Lately all I do is log in, claim reward, log out.
PvP occasionally as well, but it I enjoy it a lot less now that the Transmutation charges earned per reward track have been halved.
Serious? That decision obviously redirects towards the gem store.
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I love VB. It’s probably my favorite map. Certainly the most polished of all the new maps. And yeah, if you dislike VB you are going to violently hate TD.
you are indeed correct, i despise maguma to such extent that i decided to burn my “Christmas money” on HearthStone pacs rather than upgrading account here.
Same here mate. I bought myself Diablo 3 bundle rather than spending that money here and am having sooooooooo much fun. I logged in like 3 – 4 days ago to GW2, left after about 10 mins
Bored and waiting to see if they fix their errors for my money.
I don’t agree with everything you said, but I think you made some good points. Unfortunately it will fall on deaf ears when it comes to the people who matter.
Your signature says it all
- If you see something, say something. We actively read the official forums and reddit posts. My QA partner Evan Zynda is all over things on reddit. We want to know what’s wrong with our content, so please let us know.
Saying something:
- urge your management to stop being involved too much and let people do their jobs so that the game may (hopefully) recover from its current messed up state
- according to reviews most people disapprove of the CEO and advise he should ditch his “Yes men” who seem to lack understanding and make the most horrible business decisions aimed at the game being just a cash machine (typical NCSoft strategy)
- treat the game like a game and stop making it just for profits. Your judgement seems to be very clouded because all you started seeing is money (game rewards have been crippled, some instances abandoned, everything centred around HoT content making other content obsolete)
- encourage designers to work with artists more than less
- stop pressing on delivering mass amounts of content without the right people
- trust your employees, give them more freedom to do what you hired them to do
- do not allow other markets set the course for the game
- take time to address the problems instead of pushing so much priority on shipping. Be willing to fire bad managers and directors, instead of letting them lead to talent loss. Help the teams work together better, instead of allowing some teams to isolate themselves
In short: stop letting incompetent people make any kinds of decisions.
How I know this? I do my research.
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In b4 thread gets deleted for saying anything that is truthful.
In b4 thread gets deleted for saying anything that is truthful.
Can your spam…
He is actually right. It’s not possible to post any links on these boards because they would most likely get deleted for obvious reasons, which is why people discuss stuff in other places (like Reddit) as well.
@OP: of course you would get banned, because you would “sponsor” a third party seller and not ANet directly. It would ruin their efforts to cash in on the game.
Dungeons, as I’ve heard, are going to be completely removed, and the team behind them might’ve already been disbanded.
Where did you hear this?
In the game. Everybody’s talking about it. I think it was talked about on Reddit.
It’s sad but i agree.
I’ve seen entire wvw guilds leave wvw and people relocating to pve or pvp due to the new borderlands.
While i love the design of the HoT maps, i can’t help but wonder how they will work when they’ll become deserted. Some people have already farmed whatever they could out of them and only come back occasionally or not at all.
I don’t think they will work at all. Judging from my previous experience with the parent company that is behind every business decision for this game as well I assume it will go down the same direction – it will be either removed from the game, or not improved and kept for RMTs and scripters who keep their games “alive”. NCSoft doesn’t give a rat’s kitten about whether you enjoy content, otherwise there wouldn’t be so much imbalance either.
Dungeons, as I’ve heard, are going to be completely removed, and the team behind them might’ve already been disbanded. The same might happen to Borderlands. Sure one would think “why did they add them if they want to remove them, makes no sense” – to them everything that is a gold sink for us makes sense.
Everything is aimed only towards new content which after a while gets boring in its tediousness, because after you do it you do what? That’s right, the new design gets you bored quickly because you can’t even enjoy it solo, and after that you would want to go back to some other part of the game, but most of the previous content is crippled in favour of the expansion (dungeons e.g. are a good example, instead of receiving balancing patches and better rewards, some rework, they have been crippled completely and nobody does them; I can’t get a decent group in WvW lately. Before it was crawling with people, now we are constantly outnumbered.).
There goes GW2.
I’ve been repeating this over and over again. Was about time people started waking up.
Ladies and gentlemen, meet NCSoft’s strategy behind all of their titles = cash machines.
As someone who has played quite a few MMOs out there it seems to me as if this game was designed for those incapable of using but a fraction of what they know, because every other MMO I have played out there does not limit me, allowing me to use my character to its full potential, i.e. if I have learned 40 abilities I can use all of them, at any given point, which is what GW2 never allowed and it is absurd and idiotic and the cause of major frustrations, e.g. when you find yourself in a situation where you could use a different ability than you have slotted and cannot equip it because you are not given the choice to use whatever you have learned in the past (which is stupid, because we all have a choice, only ANet denies that fact),
There is far more skill involved in learning how to overcome a broad variety of obstacles using a very limited number of available tools than there is in having a tool for every situation available at all times.
The lack of the foresight to be able to design and build around your needs, requiring the crutch of having every possible tool available at all times, is another indication of lack of capacity on the part of the player.
You’re clearly mistaking the obvious here. It’s not about one’s inability to use a limited set of tools, it’s about the limitation itself that is absurd and idiotic.
With the latest patch the game became far too easy for certain classes and very difficult for those left behind and I needn’t name examples.
Surely anyone would agree, that it’s only reasonable to use whatever at your disposal to your advantage. It’s not only more fun, but mainly reasonable. Only a fool would not utilize their own potential.
If you like being limited so be it.
Some points I agree with, some I cannot, namely:
•Elimination of conditions on auto attack
This game has way too many conditions flying around. Never in my gaming life have I seen so many conditions being applied to me over and over and over
•Condition rework
Conditions should be just that, a condition… not something that melts your hp bar but rather a form of controlling your opponent
Conditions do exactly what they are supposed to do – cripple the opponent, often to the point of death. Think of them as spreading plague. When you’re ill you also can hardly do anything and the same applies here – your CDs are slower, you move slower, you bleed, burn, are confused, your healing and damage output is crippled – all how it should be. Conditions ignore armour and reach you where physical reach is impossible. It’s called Damage Over Time (DOT).
Counter measure: condi cleansing setup.
Conclusion: Nothing wrong here. Sounds more like your inability to cope with a game mechanic. I am actually thinking they could use a boost, because even with my almost 2k condi damage opponents go down slower than expected.
•Skills need to be aimed or ground targeted
This forces the player to be focused when fighting
You have got to be joking.
So you want the computer do everything for you so you don’t have to “focus” on anything, just mindlessly press buttons.
In case you haven’t noticed, the game is already limiting players beyond reason. Whoever designed this mechanic hoped for more strategy to be employed, but failed.
As someone who has played quite a few MMOs out there it seems to me as if this game was designed for those incapable of using but a fraction of what they know, because every other MMO I have played out there does not limit me, allowing me to use my character to its full potential, i.e. if I have learned 40 abilities I can use all of them, at any given point, which is what GW2 never allowed and it is absurd and idiotic and the cause of major frustrations, e.g. when you find yourself in a situation where you could use a different ability than you have slotted and cannot equip it because you are not given the choice to use whatever you have learned in the past (which is stupid, because we all have a choice, only ANet denies that fact),
THAT is crippling, NOT conditions. It’s limiting and frustrating not being able to use everything you have learned.
ANet’s argument could be, that the game would be imbalanced… blah blah blah
- there are ways to make it balanced. Those, who don’t want to, find reasons, those who do, find ways.
Many MMO players refer to GW2 as casual, hand-holding c**p for many good reasons.
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Has Anet communicated with us if any of our issues will be fixed? There seems to be a lot of unhappy customers, shouldn’t they be letting us know if they will fix it or not?
They won’t. Look at forums of their other products. If you go to Lineage 2 forums all you see are bot/hack/RMT topics. With the F2P model in GW2 you can expect that here soon.
ANet already mentioned that they are abandoning dungeons. If I am not mistaken, the dungeon dev team is already disbanded.
Future group content is going to be fractals and raids.
Are you sure about this? Can you post a link (if possible)?
If you don’t get my answer that’s your problem. Most stuff with HoT is aimed towards people giving up after a while and reaching for their wallet. Gated items, gated progression is what my post was about, all for one and one reason only.
Is this an intended block to prevent most people from getting a legendary weapon?
The design is gem store-centric = pay for what you need, else you can grind for your life.
Everything that has happened to GW2 is because of its management. There are many talented people within the company what you can also see in the game (graphics are flawless), but they are restrained and underpaid from what I’ve learned.
While I cannot post more here, drop me a private message if you want to know why things are as they are and why a bright future is highly unlikely.
I thought Anet broke off from NCSoft and now work on the game independently. It seems some NCSoft tendencies remained in Anet though.
Nope, see Wikipedia and NCSoft pages = ArenaNet is a NCSoft company = we are screwed.
Quote from Wikipedia:
“The company was acquired by NCsoft in 2002. On 10 September 2008, NCsoft announced the formation of NCsoft West, headquartered in Seattle, Washington. ArenaNet founders Jeff Strain and Patrick Wyatt left ArenaNet to take roles at NCsoft West in 2008, and ultimately left NCsoft in 2009. The only founder left is Mike O’Brien.”
Guild Wars 2, Aion, Lineage 2 and many others are just cash machines for NCSoft. They all follow the same, corrupt pattern.
You haven’t used the search function, have you. Or just read through the general section, the GW2 and HoT sections and you’ll find plenty of reasons not to buy the “expansion”.
Don’t do the same mistake many of us made.
Read the forums, search for topics, something tells me it won’t be hard to find a lot of complaints about the so called expansion, accurately translated as a ripoff.
Well said @Ashern, well said. You summed it up so well I don’t even know is there something to add.
The game became downright worthless; a complete waste of time.
That being said, a family member for whom I bought the game already got bored and I’m already on the way back to my favourite title from Blizzard.
To everyone:
beware of titles with the NCSoft logo (just as with GW2) on them, or anyhow associated with. Their business practices ruin every single one of their games. It’s shoddy business with only money in mind. Lineage 2 is a perfect example.
I thought Anet broke off from NCSoft and now work on the game independently. It seems some NCSoft tendencies remained in Anet though.
Scroll down to the bottom of the page, the logo is still there. Also, any video I launched over Twitch advertised their logo. You don’t do that if you break ties with someone.
The way the game changed everything hints towards them being behind it, to squeeze out as much money as possible (focus on F2P, game nerfs in favour of the gem store, it’s blunt obvious).
Those who have played at least one notable title from NCSoft will know.
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Well said @Ashern.
The game became a waste of time.
People, be warned of titles with the NCSoft logo (just as with GW2) on them, or anyhow associated with the company. Their business practices ruin every single one of their titles. It’s shoddy business with only money in mind. Just look up Lineage 2 and you’ll understand. I played that game for around 10 years and it went to ruin because of the F2P model.
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No, not as things stand.
My gut instinct was to not buy this one, but then I relented.
It’s not all bad – some parts of the maps are beautiful (the artwork in this game is great), I have a lovely tiger pet (even though she was stressful to get) and a nice new bow skin.
I enjoyed some of the personal story
Speaking of the story – if you want to know the background of Scarlett Briar you have to unlock 5 chapters for 200 gems each… That should’ve been included with the expac.
Anet has gone silent again? You must live in a bubble. Let’s talk about the “silence” of Anet for a second.
People complained about 400 points needed for elite specializations and Anet fixed that, by reducing it to 250, which very few people complain about.
People complained about high level mastery gating in the story and Anet removed some of it, so that people could get through the story with only a few basic masteries that are easy to level.
People complained about some hero points, and so Anet changed some of them to make them easier.
They came out with the commander UI, the new legendaries and the raids, just as they said they would and most people seem to be enjoying the raids, at least those that like that sort of thing.
People complained about Fractal rewards and Anet posted they’re working on them and that they’d be fixed/changed in December.
Anet hasn’t been silent in any way, shape or form and only someone deliberately ignoring what’s being said would say so.
Raiding is for serious players who invest time and energy into the game. The few people who think ascended gear is too hard or expensive to get that leave the game, they’ll be a tiny percent of the hard core community.
Actually the biggest “crisis” area of the game right now is WvW and Anet communicated about that too and said it’s simply too big a problem to have addressed yet, but they are working on it and will continue to work on it.
Anet hasn’t be silent and by saying so, you make me question everything else you’ve said.
white knight at its finest here. as you are in many other posts. sorry but arenanet is whispering only, which equals to many people as silence, we are working on it or changes will come next month (promises promises) are not really things that people want to hear. I think what people trying to say is that they want MORE communication from arenanet other then a simpe blogpost. where are all the devs that usually post on the forums? many are used that on a regular base devs reply to topics, SPECIALLY when there are so many “complaints” ( I rather say worries about the future of this game). I do get your point of view. but it seems you are blindly following every single word arenanet is telling you. ´this makes you look like a white knight.
There’s being a white knight and there’s ignoring fact. Which thing did I say wasn’t a fact?
Did Anet change the hero point total needed to unlocked elite specializations. Yes.
Did Anet change some of the hero points, turning them into either communes or veterans? Yes.
Did Anet post about fixing fractal rewards next month? Yes.
Did Anet release the raids and new commander UI yes.And through all of it they’ve been talking to us. Now talking to us doesn’t mean they’re going to tell you what you want to hear, but saying they’re not talking to us is demonstrably false.
And using terms like White Knight to try to make what I say look untrue is pointless, because what I’ve said is factually true and can be checked.
I’m sorry you have some kind of problem with the game, but that doesn’t mean Anet isn’t talking to us. Saying they’re not is simply wrong.
It’s one thing to complain about something you like. It’s another thing to try to contradict fact. It’s a pointless exercise.
You are white knighting ANET. Those changes were minor and just bandaids on a very horrible expansion.
Actually HoT is more of a “contraction” for many players. WvW has been decimated, small guilds have been kicked to the curb, all their hard work taken away. Dungeons abandonded and huge grind / pay wall set up for everyone to “enjoy”.
HoT is garbage.
Absolutely your opinion and you’re entitled to it. Having a different opinion, however, doesn’t make me a white knight. I’ll always call out BS wherever I see it, not just here, but everywhere.
I didn’t address the OP’s complaints in total. I address something I consider to be a factual fallacy. And that’s ALL I did.
If you have something to say that addresses what I actually said, by all means, quote me. But if you’re just going to call me a white knight because I have a different opinion than you, well, I guess that pretty much says it all right there.
Have a great night.
Vayne, I have noticed that many people call you a white knight, on here and it’s pretty obvious that that is simply because you always seem to defend Anet, in your posts.
You may be calling out “factual fallacies”, as you see them, but these corrections always seem to be in Anet’s favour, for some reason.
If you criticised them, even 20% of the time, people probably wouldn’t call you that.
I’m, genuinely, glad for you if your opinion just happens to coincide with Anet’s, all the time, even when they make seemingly contradictory, or confusing, moves.
But, of course, that seemingly constant support will look unusual to people who see you post regularly, on here.
Most people come to the forum because they have an issue with one, or more, things in the game and if someone is always on here and always appearing to toe the company line, of course it will look odd and/or suspicious to most of them.
At the end of the day, I’m sure Anet can defend themselves perfectly well, if they ever feel the need.
It’s not your job to have to do it.
Or, I assume it’s not, anyway.
No reasonable person would overlook how they messed up the game. It’s dead obvious. You play it, you see for yourself, you immediately feel, that something isn’t right; that there is no balance, that gating content is just wrong, that they’ve imposed restrictions in wrong ways in wrong places and so on.
About ANet being silent, I’ve noticed their occasional responses to useless topics just so they hint towards them actually reading the forums, but whenever there is a heated debate on a topic that demands a response they keep their distance or mask themselves behind ordinary user accounts to defend the unholy mess they created.
I do, for many obvious reasons, most notably the price of the expansion, the current game model (F2P, overpriced gem store that supports gambling), in-game design decisions (character design, gating of stuff, horrible map difficulty for casual players)…
Worse than worst.
A good question – when will all the current issues be fixed.
A rollback would do the trick, but also upset a lot of the OP class players, because their classes got more OPed and they like it that way.
Hard to say, but perhaps when they hire capable people to do the job right. The current game design team is a failure as all the feedback proves.
However, map completion doesn’t have to be done right now.
That’s an absurd defense. The spirit of map completion has, with few exceptions, always been “do it when you want to do it.” The issue is not “wanting to do it right now” versus wanting to do it later. The issue is lacking the freedom to do it when you want to do it. That’s the point.
Video games run on choice. Every time you take away choice, you are left with less of a video game and more an interactive graphic novel. I’m being a tad hyperbolic to make a point here. The principle of the thing is rather important when it starts adding up.
It’s not an absurd defense. You have an tendency to see anything you disagree with as absurd or wrong, which is frankly absurd. Nor is it a defense.
It is, a very, very absurd defence. Map completion is always up to the player. Players should never have to sacrifice real life for a stupid game.
Games should be fun, not a second job.
If you don’t have a life so be it, but don’t force others to waste theirs.
There will never be a true balance until they separate PvP from PvE entirely, and have separate balancing for each mode. Yeah it’s more work, but trying to keep them uniform across the board is only hurting the game, in my opinion.
More work but they have the resources. We made sure of that with our wallets. I’d say they don’t appreciate us as much as we deserve for leaving them with our money.
I agree with the OP – time gated crafting is unreasonable. Why should I wait if I already have all the ingredients? Nonsense.
Wanze already presented a way to skip the time gate, with money.
There are other time gates in the game, too, like Ascended crafting.
I recall there was a time when any in-game purchases for real currencies were banned by law as form of gambling. No virtual item should be sold for real money.
What happened?
1. There was no such time. You’re imagining things. Buying virtual items for real money is perfectly legal.
2. I meant in-game money, as in gold.
You meant in-game money, I meant real money – the money you buy real food and real clothes with – when you purchase additional in-game items, e.g. gems, for real money and yer, there was a time like that, perhaps you haven’t played MMOs long enough, but initially it wasn’t allowed, so probably some lobbyists figured out a way to get it legalized.
Stuff like this ruins the game, it gives some great advantage over others and supports gambling, hence it shouldn’t be allowed. But yeah, I know many prefer it for many reasons, one of those being frustration, but that could be remedied if certain game content wasn’t so kitten hard to get.
The basic equation works: make content hard to get > cause frustration > get the user to pay real money = acquire content easily = no frustration.
I agree with the OP – time gated crafting is unreasonable. Why should I wait if I already have all the ingredients? Nonsense.
Wanze already presented a way to skip the time gate, with money.
There are other time gates in the game, too, like Ascended crafting.
I recall there was a time when any in-game purchases for real currencies were banned by law as form of gambling. No virtual item should be sold for real money.
What happened?
I agree with the OP – time gated crafting is unreasonable. Why should I wait if I already have all the ingredients? Nonsense.
I’d like to get back to the technical aspect here – the Mac client is Beta and I do believe, that it is ANet’s fault, especially when talking about Mac computers, because Apple has dedicated hardware, there is no such thing as mixed hardware components like with most Windows PCs that are customized from the ground up. With a Mac they could test easily on the same environment a user has and they have the resources to do so (c’mon, I’ve heard this game is played by millions, so do the math: 45 EUR x several millions = how much money you get?).
It’s the same reason why they could easily afford to build a Linux client, but they simply don’t want to. They say the community is not big enough, but I assure you the community would grow exponentially if vendors started making native Linux clients. VALVe’s Steam is a great example and Steam machines will rock!
Depends what some of you define as casual, or as it seems to me some of you are more like semi-casual/semi-hardcore, because casual casual is what the OP seems to be and the original GW2 was designed that way (a lot easier, more relaxed).
HoT became way too difficult for some and it’s understandable. Doesn’t mean that some of you enjoy it the way it is everyone has to.
This is not the time to boast about how you managed to do everything, all by yourself, like internet heroes, this is the time to look at things from another perspective and agree, that for some this is way over the top and frankly, it is; for Rangers in particular, going through all that hassle just for 2 pets = nonsense, and a lot of mechanics just showcase poor game design.
This is just gamble and gambling can bankrupt you.
I’ve seen this happen in many games, people spending thousands of dollars on fictional game characters, unbelievable.
There’s no difference between gambling in an MMO and a slot machine in a casino. Each promises results, but each has a set algorithm to cheat you out of your savings.
Don’t do it.
This game has a big ESL sticker on it, if you don’t see it the glue was bad. But even with that I fail to see how others cannot see the blatant imbalance and I don’t believe no pro player ever brought up the disadvantages many classes have compared to others, beginning (in this thread with your Ele) with Druid e.g. – that class is a very bad joke.
lol is this a joke? I have Incinerator and this does not even come close. If anything these skins are a play on a lightsaber.
Said it. Star Wars anyone?
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The pricing is way over the top. No expansion should cost the same as the core game.
Definition of an expansion from Dictionary.com:
“additional content for a video game, card game, board game, etc., that significantly expands or alters the way the game is played”
That being said, 45 EUR as standard price is too much. Should be reduced by 50% the least. End of story.
2 words:
cash machine.
I don’t think it’s worth 40€ (25€ seems more like a fair price)
Very much true.
Paying the same amount for the expansion as if you were buying the game again is outrageous really. I have never witnessed this before.
It’s called an expansion for a reason, because you already own the game and you just get something on top of it. Furthermore, it contains only 3 maps, a couple of armours/weapons and one story. If you want to unlock the story for Scarlett Briar you have to pay 200 gems per chapter of around 7 chapters or so, so again the game is just a cash machine.
Elite specializations introduced a lot of imbalance. Lately I’m under the impression I’m playing Star Wars. Existing OPed classes became even more powerful (giving the Guardian a bow while a staff to the Ranger…), whilst some existing classes didn’t receive anything to counter the extra might others received. I’m not saying they cannot be beaten, but c’mon.
Not worth it.
It’s why I’m so repulsed by PvP. You can read the other team’s messages and sometimes there are people that will just get aggressive and rude with you for no reasons.
I don’t ever want to play PvP because it makes me hate the game, and it’s annoying that the new legendaries require the tokens from PvP.
^ best described it.
What I often feel just when I think of launching the game lately is disgust. Disgust, that I would have to be in an arena with people with the tendency to condescend to a level below that of a rat, honestly. It’s repulsive to even think of doing PVP.
Inoki, why is the current simply block and if you feel it was going way over the line report system not good enough?
Because I’m not sure it’s even working (the report button). At least I don’t see any weakening of verbal abuse in the game.
Just try it, spend a few days in PVP. Kindergarden would be a nice way of calling it, but it’s far from that. People simply don’t know how to control themselves.
Just as people ask me what’s preventing me from using the report button, I’m asking those verbally abusing others: why can’t you keep it to yourself?
The game has different sections. When you say no weakening of verbal abuse in game, do you mean PvE (where I rarely see abusive language) or PvP?
It’s possible that PvE and PvP are held to somewhat different standards. It’s well know that across all games that PvP will have more people being insulting, probably because of the competitive nature of it. The line to be crossed for suspensions might be higher there.
No, I meant mainly PVP. People cursing at NPCs makes no sense, does it. In PVE it’s very rare, thankfully.
Inoki, why is the current simply block and if you feel it was going way over the line report system not good enough?
Because I’m not sure it’s even working (the report button). At least I don’t see any weakening of verbal abuse in the game.
Just try it, spend a few days in PVP. Kindergarden would be a nice way of calling it, but it’s far from that. People simply don’t know how to control themselves.
Just as people ask me what’s preventing me from using the report button, I’m asking those verbally abusing others: why can’t you keep it to yourself?
Since so many are so dead set against seeing any “swears”, I’ll stop using profanity when people can explain why profanity is bad.
So far nobody has ever been able to give me a good reason. It’s always “they just are!” and “iI’m offended because i was taught to be offended!”.
Think about it, and maybe you’ll realize profanity isn’t even worth discussing. Not talking about directed and targeted abuse here either, but the words themselves.
Because, as human beings we are naturally emotional (some more, some less, some not at all it seems) and we use words to communicate and express how and what we feel, or what we want (to achieve) et al.
If the words used are intended for hurtful or otherwise demeaning purposes they shouldn’t be tolerated. It’s the same as using verbal insults against ones race, gender, orientation, religion, you name it – that too, though just verbal, is often used as a weapon.
I think quite a few individuals could use a lecture in psychology, to learn about how things work in life. Most think that “just getting over it” will do. Tell that to a person suffering from severe depression, for example.
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This thread is quite offensive to me and is adding to the hostile environment. Why are you calling me an immature dork? Is OP perhaps one of the bullies??
Edited, for the lack of understanding of some, while it was blunt obvious what I was referring to, I made it very clear this time.
Or just quit being so easily offended.
It’s not about being offended for a simple f* word. What I’m talking about goes beyond profanity filters, where people realise they could be censored, so they compose insults in ways to bypass and because they enjoy it, like masochists.
The filter is not there to give you carte blanche to swear as much as you want.
It’s there so I don’t have to see it between you using it and you getting suspended for using it.
If suspending for language would get you suspended, stop, grow up just a little bit and control yourself.
And if you feel you need profanity to feel like an adult you have serious maturity issues.You agreed to certain ToS, if you then refuse to keep up your end of the bargain it is not in any way unreasonable to suspend or ban you.
Nothing to do with people being overly sensitive, but only the standards of behavior you agreed to follow.
Very well said.