Guild Wars 2

Sirbeaumerdier.3740:

Jayden Ennok.3687:

Sirbeaumerdier.3740:

Offair.2563:

Incase you miss out the loot of people doing this; do one hour pve and your week is covered..

I was thinking the same. If you play WvW for loot acquisition there is something you didn’t quite figured out of this game anyway….

Loot or not, it should be still fixed.

Of course. But I was never bothered that much when ppl Alt-F4 on me before a stomp. In fact if you like the taste of salt this should feel very satisfying, not the opposite. And if i’s your wannabe possible precursor you feel cheated of go do more pve for crying out loud…

Anyway, this is not something I see as ‘urgent’ matters at all.

Yet you bother replying on a thread accusing everyone of wanting loot from the kills as the reason why they want this fixed.

Sirbeaumerdier.3740:

Offair.2563:

Incase you miss out the loot of people doing this; do one hour pve and your week is covered..

I was thinking the same. If you play WvW for loot acquisition there is something you didn’t quite figured out of this game anyway….

Loot or not, it should be still fixed.

ProtoGunner.4953:

They are so easy and fast to do, the gold you got was not justified. Have you tried it with new subclasses? It’s a complete joke, you can easily duo/trio (made with DH and Herald) it. There’s no challenge, nothing. You even get about 70s and the tokens for exotics. Compared to the time and effort invested it’s still okay.

If you like the dungeons then do it for fun. I do it from time to time, rarely, but yeah, for fun! It’s not always the kittening rewards.

I mostly pug so I tend to join parties that are on lfg and after HoT, almost all are casual. I noticed playing the elite spec made the gameplay a lot easier for me, but few days ago I joined a speed clear party and we ended up doing few dungeons. 4 elites + 1 vanilla and we killed bosses way faster than a speed clear party would pre-HoT. I can see what you mean but I don’t agree with how much they nerfed the gold reward. Compare it to harvesting for example, how much effort that takes and how much gold it makes.

Sorel.4870:

Urejt.5648:

Actually critical strikes does more dmg mathematicly speaking which can be easily proved by calculations or jaxnx dps meter.

Herev is the test i conducted. Weapon – staff, any dps combo to kill indestructible golem
Dps meter shows:
cs : 3999 dps av
da: 3200 dps av

Except you don’t fight golems in pvp. Did you take into account that most of our targets are below 50% health or just above when we engage?

re-read the bolded text, might help with your understanding

Trajan.4953:

I feel that it may reach a level where new players will just not bother.

I bet some players, especially the new ones, are more like “wooooooooooooow”, you might not but some people do like gimmicks.

WvW was never friendly to new players and if they don’t bother now, they woudn’t bother anyway pre-HoT.

Steel Courage.1250:

BlaqueFyre.5678:

Steel Courage.1250:

Cynz.9437:

Do we really want to know with which “amazing” balancing ideas they came up this time?

Well, as of today, they seem promising!

Not promising, they are vague as usual

Better than nothing

Thief population has learned that nothing is sometimes the better option.

AikijinX.6258:

Warhawk.7095:

I liked my build before HoT better, but that was before they nerfed condi clear, removed the precision to vitality trait, jumbled the rest of the traits into terrible places and finally removed guard stacks from wvw. After that pile of nerfs daredevil became the better option the second HoT hit stores. With all the new reveals dumped on top of the nerfs to baseline endurance, the added mobility of daredevil tops anything on base class now. But like I said, if I could choose between my build today and my build 8 months ago, my old build would win hands down.

Yes I must agree. Although it wasn’t a direct nerf to Thieves, Indirectly they nerfed our HP pool Gain, by removing Guard stacks. Which to this day still don’t really know why. Does anyone know why? I don’t really understand why the majority of all classes have a reveal debuff either. My build 2 years 8months to 2 years ago still works pretty well with no complaints from me. “lightning Blade”. But I guess i am just used to playing the High risk/Reward spec.

I still stick close to my Core Thief.

I believe the reason for removing guard stacks was that it gave quite an advantage vs those with no stacks due to the time investment required to obtain the ranks.

Cynz.9437:

Die hard vanilla dp here:
- i don’t like daredevil at all, it is just acro remake, i am not fan of evade builds, i prefer versatile dp build
- ironically on dp i had easier times killing DD than on any other class

I don’t have problems with DDs but with vault. Mostly I play squishies, ele or thief sometimes, 1 vault that hits me is enough to down me from full HP. At least with ele I can put up some aoe pressure on the thief but when I play thief, it’s pretty bad (I admit I am really rusty with thief these days). So I evade (S/D) or dodge vaults, then I am out of dodges and ini, and eat one vault.

To the OP, I dislike DD is basically acro 2.0 and the class haven’t really get anything new. The traits itself don’t add much to my gameplay. Dashes are great when moving around the map, running away and sometime during combat, but often in combat I need to dodge and not dash away.

Sigfodr.9576:

learn where to stand.

mostly this.

OP, I have full zerker as well, changing gear to more defensive option won’t help much. Timing on skills is important, no point starting meteor shower channel or overload if the boss is about to use his 1 shotting skill, swap utilities as needed for particular fights.

Aftershock is amazing and the reflect is worth slightly lower dps from not having fire signet.

Wash the pain away – I almost always use this now, arcane brilliance only for very short fights if the party lacks might (no ps warr).

Imo, glyph of storms is good now only if you need blinds for trash mobs, otherwise I don’t use it.

Alekt.5803:

I actually think it should be the other way around. Add a delay on the weapon swap to prevent that sort of gameplay.

go away

I’ll be happy with almost any change as long as the trait won’t be as situational as DS.

Swap renewal sigil for benevolence and take rice ball food. I personally don’t think air traits are that beneficial with minstrel gear, I prefer earth traitline for more protection and some little stab for the party.

Also, consider swapping flash freeze for stability if your party doesn’t have lots of stability because with this build, you need to be in close range to your party members and with full shout build, one cc chain and you are done.

Blooperz.6145:

They do OK damage…the range on them can make them a handicap at times imo. But cant complain about all those boons when cast

It does OK dmg on a tank build, which would normally do no dmg.

With a dmg build, overload dmg is insane. Air attunment self homing 3-5k hits make enemies run around in panic, fire overload gives me the dmg of meteor shower in melee and they can’t run away so easily either.

I didn’t like tempest at all at first, now I refuse to play without it.

DanAlcedo.3281:

Infusion.7149:

Food ( 100 Power) Wrench (+100 to 150ish power) + Bolt to the Heart + Aquamancer’s Training
+ Might stacks (definitely at least 6 stacks if they’re in party with a Herald) + sigil of Force

2600 Power/2000 armor = 1.3x damage already

10 Might = 2800+ Power —> 1.4x damage

Ice Spike isn’t OP : it has a delay, it is not instant , it requires a trait just to be 2 + 3/4 recharge. The tooltip when it is at 2800 Power is a mere 2K.

I dont think Ice Spike is op.
CoR is op.

I tried a “Ice Spike dmg build” and with marauder/zerg mix+ 25 bloodlust + ok dmg food+ with heolbrak rune, without force sigil and only 6-7 stacks might

i got over 8k hits on enemy caster what is ok but to play only for ice spike was not a good idea XD.

Building only for high burst on ice spike is really not a good idea but it was decent for a wvw zerg staff build (pre HoT) as it allowed for combos like meteor + switch to water for sustain and some extra dmg. That was okay before HoT, with tempest I have good sustain even without water traits and no need for weird rotations to get nice bursts.

I run fire/air/tpt and most of my dmg comes from fire skills, that’s 150 extra power + 10% + 10% from aura use and all this is not dependent on sitting in water. PS/AT builds are way too restricting.

Playing thief is super frustrating.

I know that I am very rusty with the class now as I barely ever play it. When I go wvw with thief, I get bursted (zerk/cav) more often than my full zerker ele. The other day a friend asked me (my ele) to duel him in OS. He mains a thief and improved a lot since we used to roam together since I don’t play pvp much and he spends there most of his time.

First he used his herald, he got the elite spec that day and wanted to test it. I won first duel, then he figured out how to counter me and killed me every time.

Then he logged to his thief.
Felt so sorry for him when he couldn’t chop off HP from my team support (yeah a lot of the build doesn’t benefit me but allies so it’s even weaker than it could be in 1 vs 1) tempest. I did way more dmg to him then he did to me, he lost all fights on his thief.

Sad story of a raging thief and one ex-thief.

Teevell.1684:

Jayden Ennok.3687:

Teevell.1684:

Ragnarox.9601:

Dayra.7405:

The daily chests have 10 BoH each.
After 40 days you should have 1600 just from the chests

So 40 days to finish elite spec, if this is intentional than their whole team is clueless. Been in mmorgp games for 15 years and this is far worst expansion ever created in whole mmo history.

Try re-reading that. 1600 JUST from the chests. So if you’re doing WvW a lot, you would get the badges needed well before then.

It is still not fair to those players that were not that active in wvw before HoT. Also in comparison to pve, wvw is very slow on getting the elite spec, which is obtainable in pve within a day.

I wasn’t very active in sPvP before HoT, so I don’t have a high rank or lots of the currency. That’s not unfair to me, it’s what happens when you don’t play a particular game mode. I wasn’t very active in dungeons before either, I’m not whining that it’s unfair I don’t have a lot of dungeon currency. Of course I don’t, I didn’t do them. If you want the stuff from the content, you have to play the content.

What actually isn’t fair is the discrepancy in ease between the game modes when it comes to leveling elite specs.

The reason I see the new amount of badges dropped in wvw as unfair to players new to wvw is that the badges earned now are not even enough to utilise all proof of heroics alone. That doesn’t even take into account laurel/gear vendors.

My own personal stash of badges is down by 9k just to get elite specs, didn’t spend any on siege or wvw gear and still lots of proof of heroics sitting in my inventories.

Anyone without a massive backlog of badges will just have stacks of heroics and can’t spend them.

Teevell.1684:

Ragnarox.9601:

Dayra.7405:

The daily chests have 10 BoH each.
After 40 days you should have 1600 just from the chests

So 40 days to finish elite spec, if this is intentional than their whole team is clueless. Been in mmorgp games for 15 years and this is far worst expansion ever created in whole mmo history.

Try re-reading that. 1600 JUST from the chests. So if you’re doing WvW a lot, you would get the badges needed well before then.

It is still not fair to those players that were not that active in wvw before HoT. Also in comparison to pve, wvw is very slow on getting the elite spec, which is obtainable in pve within a day.

AmberUK.5380:

Its Sat afternoon at 14:45 local time and I am on eb with one other person its just crazy. Waste of a good sat afternoon play time

stalking Morf again?

Those 10k hits from revs through gates are just a feature to keep defenders busy (lying dead inside towers).

Kyon.9735:

Looks like someone has a very low reading comprehension.

One thing that is fun for me is that now I can play in WvW frontlines as a Tempest. Well it’s still the same bunky aura/heal support build though but hey, at least we now have the choice of playing backline and frontline.

Same for me, been enjoying tanky tempest in wvw mainly cos I always liked the “into your face” playstyle and died a lot with a dps spec. I can even command now with my ele (low wvw tier tho).

kitten widget.9301:

thieves no daredevils, it is actually interesting

Even though elite specs are strong, they are not the perfect option for every single build in every situation. Daredevil traits are good in some builds, too bad that most slot them no matter what.

revs … from maguuma … Rytlock is messing around again

Galandil.9641:

We counter the possibility of having fun playing the game.

lol, best answer ever :P

Base ele is still good and you certainly don’t need tempest in pve.
Staff builds naturally have less blasts.

Your gear is good, for the traits, I’d go with Persisting flames instead of Pyromancer Puissance as it makes your staff fire 2 last longer and when you blast, you get fury as well. That’s a big boost to your dmg. For arcane traits, the grandmaster trait you choose is good and optimal in group play as usually you get tons of boons on you. If you are alone however, you will usually maintain only fury and might. Personally I chose Elemental surge when roaming in open world alone – I can blast more often + 150 ferocity boosts my dmg too.

For utilities I mostly pick Arcane brillicance (blast), Arcane wave (blast), glyph of storms and fire signet are nice too.

The gameplay is usually starting in earth, especially for trash mobs, I use staff 4 to gather them in one place, earth staff 2, switch to fire, fire staff 2 (the blast is delayed) so there is one combo. Once in fire, arcane wave/brilliance for more blasts. Stay in fire unless you need heals etc.

Btw, it’s really amusing how much the tick is, it can get to like 750 in wvw with food/stacks.

Ragion.2831:

Ohoni.6057:

In some cases it’s a nerf, denying you access to that swiftness which you might need if it comes down to a decap to win a PvP match, or if you’re running hidden thief and just need the stealth.

Mostly, though, it’s a buff. I lost count how many times I’ve missed steal because I press it a millisecond after my target enters stealth. This patch should prevent steal from going off in such cases, allowing me to use it for its full effect.

No, mostly it’s just a nerf, as it means that you cannot activate your buffs without a target.

lmao, this cannot be a pve issue because that would be ridiculous. Is this a pvp/wvw issue? because i can list several reasons why you shouldnt be using steal without a target.

While it makes sense the skill should work only with a target, this change shows how the class needs some form of self buffing.

forum bug

+1

Whoever designed those, I love you.

Zodryn.4216:

Jana.6831:

“At least” everything was bug fixes – not happy about one “bug” fix in wvw… actually I’m pretty mad because of it

ETA: But on the plus side, the BL dagger is the first BL dagger skin I like.

Steal needs a target now.

And I was planning to dust off my thief today.

New maps are not perfect, I still prefer them a lot more than the old hamster wheel maps.

Dondagora.9645:

I may be missing something big and so forth, so would someone care to enlighten me?

A lot of wvw’ers play the gamemode as the endgame mode, for those, the choice of stats, including food consumables is important. PVP system even if (I doubt anet would spend more resources on wvw than pvp for this matter) split into separate pieces, wouldn’t offer same flexibility.

It’s mmo, I don’t see the problem in spending some time to gear up a character, even newbies can do that. Most argue that the stat advantage is unfair, yet getting asc trinkets is easy, rings drop like flies in fractals, and just from log in rewards people get tons of laurels. Now the difference is rather small between full asc vs exotic armour+wep & asc trinkets. You still think asc trinkets are hard to get? Then mmo isn’t for you.

If wvw would end up with amulets like pvp, it’d drive away many current players and those that don’t win fights now would only wonder why they still don’t win them when every enemy should have same stats as them. People just like mental excuses for lost fights. Check the screenie, tho not about asc gear, it shows what people want to believe to.

I find tempest healing ele the best, gave the build to guildie shortly before our first raid and he did well even though I didn’t explain how to play it.

Friend’s party with a druid and I barely saw any heals between the burst heals and by then, it was late for me. Maybe druid has more raw heals (haven’t tested it so can’t really tell) but I think it needs more from the player to provide the heals needed when needed. Tempest ele just oozes delicious heals all the time.

Goon for Hire.7150:

Jayden Ennok.3687:

Dungeons have toxic community but fracts’ runners are all sweet and nice?

Well, no. There’s the occassional bad apple too, but I generally find fractals to be a more pleasant experience.

But you said you haven’t run a single dungeon for 2yrs, how do you compare then?

I am finding that with the game having so many interrupts, skills with long channels just become useless (this is mostly from wvw/pvp view) as people learn the animations and how to play. Churning earth with its cast time is a suicide.

I find defensive stats in pve useful only for the content I am not familiar with as it gives a little extra cushioning when I make mistakes. Some of the hits that 1 shot my zerker ele on new maps would be big enough to 1 shot ele in gear with vitality, so imo, you’d need both vit and toughness, leaving you with little dmg.

I think you need to learn better when to overload.

SchmendrickTheMagician.8247:

What the hell.

Fireball went from being a Firebasketball to being a Firetennisball. This is unacceptable really as this completely destroys the fantasy of being a staff elementalist.

I always wonder what fantasy people have when they channel meteor shower with their male human eles.

He won’t play that build much if nobody takes him into group.

Dungeons have toxic community but fracts’ runners are all sweet and nice?

ReaperJr.5967:

Diamond skin is fine. If you spec the cancer that is pure condi (like pre hot mesmer) then you entirely deserve the karma of going up against a ds ele.

Almost everyone that qqs about ds ele are pure condi aids users who cry because their condis ez mode dont work on someone for once. ‘No build should completely counter another’, lol get a load of that bs. Says who?

exactly this

diamond skin counters noobs

No merges until you have a cool name for new server.

SteepledHat.1345:

Talking about it is the exact opposite than what they’ve done in the past. Ask the people exploiting food at launch how much warning they got. Don’t do it. It takes <3 mins to kill the trash and your account will be safe.

The whole teams gets teleported so you can’t really stop one person to make everyone skip the trash. It’s not just high lvls, every single run on lvl 10 has jumpers now.

Noticed the lvl 80 only stories lately while before HoT a lvl 80 in story mode was very rare? People certainly expanded their views after HoT.

sb has dps but it’s so kittengly sloooooooooooooooooooooow

step away

no dps

You either have to go into melee to have a chance to hit anyone or burn cd’s.

Noticed the class then the title XD

joneirikb.7506:

https://youtu.be/SWCTlxEp6Ds?t=106

It only work on Asuras!

Awesome vid LOL!

Shuai.7435:

The whole problem can be solved altogether by making it clear whether you’re safespotting or not in the lfg title in order to make sure everybody who joins the party is on the same page.

Would be awesome if people read the lfg tho. Just had a “lvl 10 kill all” party where while 4 started killing the champ, the 5th ran off the edge to start the boss fight.

1. I find them less fun.

2. Less, been playing gw2 less overall. Can’t even get my friends to run them since most of them used to run fracts for asc.

3. This anet’s “focus” on fracts is a rip off with nothing new to make fracts more interesting.

saturn.4810:

Kain Francois.4328:

Why are people talking about his playstyle and not the fractal 100 stage itself?

Because some people are elitists and want to show off how much better they would perform than OP.

And ofc, for these people it’s clear that fractals are too easy anyway, so no need to further talk about that.

And some people also had the chance to get OP’s “you don’t know anything” response not only in this thread but even previously.

Having a support/healing build doesn’t mean the person should go afk with autoattack on.

ThyShadowPaladin.9521:

Jayden Ennok.3687:

I see you display same skill level of spamming staff water aa no matter what just as you did in vids you used for recruitment to your fractal run guild few months ago. nice utilities, perfect for healing others.

Do you honestly expect people to run around dodging everything and using every single skill on our bars and freak out? You’ve got to be kidding.

I do expect people to do their part, what is wrong with that?

Aomine.5012:

Fresh Air air-fire staff tempest is by far the best dps in this game against stationally bosses.
There’s no competition. You can test it yourself with full zerk.
Hint: You can pre-swap to air while channeling Meteor Shower.

Also the fact that you can move, gain protection/stability/breakstun while using Air overload, and can use it every 5 second is very convenient.

I don’t see how overloading every 5s improves dps vs bolt to heart, extra power in fire and 10% dmg mod.