Guild Wars 2

Timiok.1048:

I don’t have many problems with DD eles, it just takes a very long time, as it would with any build that isn’t completely flat power. What I do is lure them off point and pressure them, until they switch to water. I then time my cc and interrupts so i interrupt their cleansing wave and 2 skill. That way they only get 2 heals, and I re-apply pressure after which they can’t really do much to survive after that. Thief has always been quite a good counter to elementalist.

to ele yeah but not to cele

Jana.6831:

Also, the might minor made us nearly as powerful as thieves who didn’t use SA = just like trickery; an offensive and defensive line – and that was good as I still had a chance against “full glass” thieves who can now chose panic strike and executioner, so I don’t think a bit might hurts.

Can you explain why you think that SA thief should have same/nearly same offence capacity like a full offence traited thief?

Chaba.5410:

The OP is mistaking server loyalty with account location.

Junkpile.7439:

You select server in launch and stay there. That is loyalty.

Good that you confirmed what Chaba said.

I meant, I am physically based in EU and I have NA alt account which until recently had no issues entering dungeons when in party.

If it was mine internet, I guess I’d have same issues when playing with my main account (EU), but this happens only on my NA account.

I join parties from lfg and alone, there is no reason I should end up in cross region party every time.

Hi,

Over the past few days, I haven’t been able to enter a dungeon in NA (I play from EU) due to network error (pic attached), which pops out when I accept the enter dungeon message and when I try to use the dungeon entrance as well. I can enter dungeons fine if I am not in a party, but once in a party, no relogging or anything helps.

No issues when entering dungeons in EU.

Been having bad luck with guardians lately, no reflects, no stab, no gs5 and dying faster than anyone else.

Pic, I guess they wanted to compensate us for using no wall on trash mobs.

Tongku.5326:

meltdown.5870:

Mesmers 100% stealth 100%dmg 100% speed 100% bullkitten

you melt down to mesmers a lot i take it ?

LOL

a few days ago I ran into a zerker ranger that was so incredibly, and I do mean incredibly stupid i will be laughing about it long after condis are gone and i am gone from this game.

this guy let me get 2 phantasms and a clone out, then sat there with 6 stacks of confusion, then right as i put my feedback on him he decided to literally sit in it and pop all his CDs on his LB.

can you guess the outcome ? are you by any chance that ranger ?

LOL

I have a better scenario, when I got to our camp it was being taken by 3 enemies, the said ranger stood outside of the camp. I ran in to prevent capping but zerker staff ele vs 3 enemies, I didn’t last long, 2 however got downed right next to the ranger.

Solution?

Lb auto pew pew cos stomp is too difficult, still standing in the same spot as when I got there.

Jayne.9251:

Conaywea.5062:

Only a WvW player would chase with his zerg a lonely roamer

Naw, only a real WvW player would run right past you, waving as he ran, because 1 vs 50 isn’t a fight.

Only a wvw player would quickly add a tag on his enemy server friend for +5 bloodlust.

Hachibee.9870:

So point is, I’m interested in engineer and guardian. None of them got me more motivate to play at the low level.
How are they in high levels on PvE, and WvW?
Are they more tougher than ele?
Just to mention, I couldn’t pass through alone the around level 80 area with my ele. I am that bad skilled player xD
And I will be mostly solo cuz my friends won’t play anymore.

1. Guardian is generally easier in pve/wvw than engi and is also more welcome in parties.

2. Technically ele is the squishiest class in the game but has mechanics that allow ele to survive. It is one of the more “active” classes and you need to learn the class to some extend to be successful with it.

3. Find new and more friends, join a guild, nobody can/wants to play online games all the time. With more friends, there should always be someone around to play with.

Ignorance is bliss for some, I joined AC p3 the other day, 3 guys voted for p1. I didn’t mind that much as I didn’t do any AC that day, one guy left and they lfg’d again as p3. We got to the p1 burrow room and the newcomer got angry as he realised it was different path than what lfg said, he left. So they lfg’d for p3 again…

Cynz.9437:

Jayden Ennok.3687:

DeceiverX.8361:

For obvious reasons, this is why I strongly stand against the [Teef] guild’s suggestions on buffing HK to provide a 50% damage bonus on backstabs. Builds that even spec lightly into this kind of damage would be one-shotting tanks, lol. That’s just unfun.

Did they really suggest that? I thought the guild had some experienced thieves in it as well.

1. not everyone can attempt to the meetings so don’t make blanket judgements
2. given the amount of defensives on every class atm (big acess to invuls, perma prot etc.) thief dmg is actually laughable in big picture even if they invest a lot into dmg… i may disagree with particular number but the problem is there

I assume that any suggestions presented as [Teef] suggestions go through some sort of voting/approval where some experienced players are present. No experienced player would think 50% extra dmg with HK is okay. Even 10% extra dmg would make other CS gms just pointless to choose.

It is disappointing to see that a group of people presenting themselves as official thief guild has suggestions like this one, it takes any credibility away and people have no reason to consider the guild’s suggestions as serious.

SpellOfIniquity.1780:

Wow ): No wonder roaming is dying alright… So many bads out there calling it quits when the going gets a little rough. Can’t insta-gib people so “nah, this game’s boring now. Things are putting up a fight.”

Go somewhere else then.

I am sure I see some logic in this “all fights I win is due my skill” post.

I am sure I see it.

Coinhead.7591:

Pack Runes arent used for Swiftness boost.

+1 one of the best runes for dmg boost, swift is just a little added bonus

Strength runes are not good for thieves since they removed the might in stealth gm minor.

I’d personally go with pack or scholar (I use both), rune of the rage are a decent cheap alternative. Pack gives you nice consistent dmg and if you have another player with pack runes in party, it’s perma swift & fury all the time during combat.

Scholar rune can give you some nice dmg boost but hard to keep the 10% bonus even with SA heals. I usually pair it up with IP gm and that’s a really nice combo for flipping camps/towers as you have almost always over 90% HP and do nice dmg. In fights with people however you’ll have under 90% most the time. This is the rune for kamikaze thief builds that rely on 1 shotting people. Also nice if you play lb ranger a lot for the opening burst.

Pack – overall awesome, perfect for skirmishes and when roaming with others.

Scholar – hit and run builds.

I think it’s a visual bug due to lag when the player did something to prevent the cc but the game didn’t caught up with that till he was showing as falling (see the link).

It happened to me twice when I got cc’d off the edge but rubberbanded back to safety from mid air so I think some funky terrain or uber lag can cause this too (I had no stab on my thief) and unless I see someone doing this all the time, I assume they lagged.

https://youtu.be/gn5fIbp67oI?t=53s

Doesn’t mean that if some hair styles are not that popular, they should get rid of them. It’s actually more interesting to see some ugly characters once in a while than the same beauty pageants 24/7.

Also, pls fix the clipping, my thief had that shoulder length hair style for ages and eventually decided to change it as it clips through everything.

Serious.7083:

Had those been available free I might agree with you. It costs nothing for thieves and mesmers to stealth so why should it cost me for a trap? Unfortunately their cost and supply needs, along with the fact that you have to be lucky enough for the enemy to trigger it, makes those less useful that it may seem.

Then I don’t want to kill enemies in my spawn. I want anet to fix it so they can’t be there – permanently. That, like so many other things, is something they do not seem capable of.

This is not an opinion on whether someone should or not be allowed to get into spawn areas. I am responding purely to the stealth trap part of your post.

Stealth traps are a direct counter to a very essential part of those classes, yeah sure they can play without it but that results in a suboptimal gameplay. Why should everyone be give free counter to particular classes? The traps are already cheap and their costs simply stop people from spamming them everywhere.

Nate.3927:

I thought this said “hairdressing in wvw” and was wondering why somebody put this here.

as far as hard ressing goes, I personally think it’s fine the way it is. It’s actually a good chance to bomb multiple ressers and and actually give your side the win.

That works only if the numbers are somewhat equal or the difference in numbers isn’t that huge, OP was talking about heavily outnumbered situations.

Etrom.5324:

I know two things for real: The hacker is there indeed, and Mr. smile likes ragequit when he is dying. Hohoho.

He even ran away from an arranged duel.

DeceiverX.8361:

For obvious reasons, this is why I strongly stand against the [Teef] guild’s suggestions on buffing HK to provide a 50% damage bonus on backstabs. Builds that even spec lightly into this kind of damage would be one-shotting tanks, lol. That’s just unfun.

Did they really suggest that? I thought the guild had some experienced thieves in it as well.

KaporHabakuk.6219:

Jayden Ennok.3687:

Have you tried to pull off ether renewal anywhere near someone with the smallest idea what interrupt is? You can’t even heal unless you save utility for that.

Earth traitline offers u support in here,namely stabil on earth packed with no-crit u can be extremely hard to tkae down in earth while using ether.If you got that certain problem like geting interupted everytime u use “and need” ether.. .

Single stack of 2s stab helps in 1 vs 1 and the opponent can still wait 2s and interrupt rest of the heal or can interrupt twice to prevent most of the heal. Sure the stab helps in comparison to having no stab, but it’s far from that good in reality as it looks on paper.

Random.4691:

There honestly isn’t any class out there that can keep up with condi application & the amount of condi’s that can be applied. Even if you clear them they can be re-applied within seconds. This is the major flaw with condi’s, there is simply to many of them and application is to easy.

This is why so many people go with stealthy classes for roaming, things don’t go well, stealth and disengage. PU mesmer, trapper ranger or a thief (yeah even thief can trait for decent condi removal, vulnerable to condi burst but very nice condi cleansing over time) can run away from anything.

With the right traits including NQ, the dmg goes up real fast.

Have you tried to pull off ether renewal anywhere near someone with the smallest idea what interrupt is? You can’t even heal unless you save utility for that.

gin.7158:

Jerus.4350:

No benefit to extra blasts unless it took them a while to get to 25 and you’d be refreshing a stack that’s almost over. With 2 Ele’s they likely will be doing it pretty quickly and you’re off.

The focus swapping can be nice for the initial shield burst damage, so if you’re doing that anyways might as well be in a fire field right?

But yeah, If you’re hitting 25 might in the prestack with 2 competent Ele’s nothing to get concerned about.

Yeah sometimes some ele prestack too far away from the boss XD. Alright all clear now. Thx

They might get into combat if they pre stack too close to boss.

It’s visible, that’s why traiting for Concealed Defeat in wvw/pvp is bad idea. They should rename that trait to Hit Here to Kill the Scrub.

Yesterday I had one of those days when bad luck decides to visit on every single dungeon run.

In Hotw p1 I got lots of kitteny talk from high ap thief who though I wasn’t good enough for the party. No blinds anywhere, no smoke screen either and then he spent most of the final boss fight downed :S

Then lvl 9 fractal, lfg “3rd map make sure you know your class”. I thought, oh cool, this will go fast. Joined them (all from one guild) on last figh on cliffside, the last map was mai. This is where things got interesting. I went to the small place around corner from the mobs, others in party started telling me to let ellen die. We killed mobs, and those four started running back and forth to the side gate for like 30s. At mai, they kept repeating “stack”, took less than 10s from mai going agro for them to all get downed, all four of them >.< I rez one, the others relogged, from now on stacking on mai was just nonexistent so took a while to get the stacks off. The whole time 1-3 of were either downed, dead or relogging. 1. cannon phase, same thing, constantly dying and relogging (now I understood why they practised it at start lol). I gave up after almost 15mins as mai was still at 80% HP and stacks high, and those guys still relogging.

Next SE p1, 3 warrs and one guard in party (me ele), 1-17k APs. First golem no problem, at Nokk we almost wiped, 3 guys were ranging. We get to golems, stacked in the corner, no wall, we got wiped. I asked guard to use wall, no response so on next try, I used swirling winds as someone pulled golems, then staff earth 3, still not enough and no wall, all dead. We tried again twice, swirling wings and mag aura not enough and guys stacked in that corner really well, even when aoes were melting them. They decided to range golems from the tunnel, first time ever for me that a party couldn’t kill golems stacked in corner or on spot. Some ranged tazza too, cos killshot is op I guess.

viperziv.6034:

Tarasicodissa.7084:

The burrow pop-up frequency should be low enough to allow you to simply alternate between icebow 4 and meteor shower. Easy to remember, easy to pull off. If burrows are not destoyed with the one attack (highly likely after they messed-up with the scaling), do what bladex suggested and mix in some might stacking here and there. You don’t even need to get out of fire attunement. In case you mess up anyway, you still should have glyph of storms or the elite elemental to save you.
It may take a little bit of practice. Not only you need to remember the exact order of the burrows spawning, you also need to think two steps ahead when laying down the icebow so you don’t have to run around picking them up, but rather have them prepared just in front of a newly spawned burrow.
Also make sure you don’t cast the skill too early. Has happened way too many times to me.

Well I managed to pass it pretty easy, now i got to know – how do u solo the last boss ? its pretty hard when the NPC doesnt protect u sometimes :\

I got the same problem with the last boss, Gratz gets knocked and messes up the timing on his bubble.

babazhook.6805:

Jayden Ennok.3687:

I love high dmg builds, I don’t really care whether they are power or condi, tho I personally prefer power as it suits my playstyle.

To max my dmg in power build, I am paper and my mistakes are punished very quickly.

To max my dmg in condi build, I need condi dmg and precision (for some builds), even those builds that would do more dmg with precision often ignore this stat or just get a piece or two of rabid, the rest is dire. In such a build (my mes), I have just over 2k condi dmg (no stacks), 24.5k HP (no guard stacks) and 3k armour.

There is very little incentive for condi builds to use any other gear than dire, which also provides high survivability. Having two defensive stats on gear with condi dmg as major stat and so few skills/traits that rely on precision is just a bad idea that resulted into condi tanks that can burst you down in no time.

At this point people usually claim that dire is just subpar to rabid in dmg output. Take your ele with diamond skin to wvw and see how many condi players will do any sort of meaningful direct dmg to you. The reality is that vast majority of condi players use full dire cos they have no need to spec for other stats.

The reason most people use dire is because they have to be able to survive longer drawn out battles so as to allow their conditions to work. Without the extra toughness and vitality a condition build is at a distinct disadvantage to a power build.

Now if a class has different means of mitigating damage (such as stealth) the need to use Dire is much less as they can use stealth instead for that survival. I do not think you will find an even distribution of Dire armor use in condition builds across all professions. It likley the most used overall but some professions/builds can make better use out of Rabid/carrion or sinister.

My own thief build that uses conditions is using Shamans . The reason for this is I am relying more on heals than on added toughness to survive as my biggest enemy as a thief is conditions which toughness does not help with.

As a roaming set in WvW i find this very effective. and the added vitality of the set will be especially welcome when applied fortitude is lost.

Condi burst can kill me in 3-4s, I don’t consider that to be exceptionally long to survive for the condi player to need high both vitality and toughness. The “damage over time” concept was further reduced with the last patch, and as even more conditions stack now, condi builds are bursty.

Depends on what you consider “better use”, for most it’s high dmg and good survivability. Why a non min maxer would go for a bit higher dmg with a lot lower survivability. I didn’t claim all professions use dire to same extend, I said vast majority of players.

Thieves, mesmers, rangers are the most dire only classes, with engies using mixed stats most often.

Nice you play unusual build but how is it relevant to the majority of playerbase? I play zerker staff ele and I roam with it, does that mean all/most eles that roam are zerker staff eles?

Uh, I wasn’t trying to be mean, just stated the point of view as I play staff ele and so many skills have long casting times, it’s really hard to actually finish the channels.

It also depends a lot on the gear the ele is using, zerker staff is suicide in small scale combat, cele is okay. If you play S/F, use the interrupts on anything important such as the heal if they use ether renewal (my ele vs D/P thief is gg right from the start).

Some staff skills also fail a lot due to uneven terrain, earth 5 (immob) so dance around small bumps or Los and you avoid those easily.

Don’t feel bad for having little wvw experience, I got tons of hours in wvw and my kamikadze ele still dies a lot ^ ^

Raif.9507:

No. Here’s some tips

• Learn to utilize the evades we have to dodge instead of doing damage if needed. On Dagger mainhand you have burning speed, on staff you have burning retreat.
• Learn to self blast fields as needed (water for healing, fire for might)
• Don’t be afraid to use glyph of storms in earth to blind spam, it’s worth it sometimes.
• If you’re uncomfortable with full zerker, try starting with a few soldiers pieces and slowly rotate in the zerker pieces.
• Arcane Brilliance is currently bugged where it doesn’t blast at your characters position, but at your target. Deselect your target to blast the field you’re standing in, this will help a ton with blasting water fields.
• You are not punished for being in melee or range, use this to your advantage.

Not sure why people think arcane brilliance blasting at target is a bug when it actually gives you the choice to either blast at target or on you. That’s a good thing no?

Wolfric.9380:

d/d runs cele gear and thats realy good. I play about 3 month now, don´t have ascended or legandary and run exotic. I use S/F and it works OK. Due to lack of skill after the short playtime there are some classes (Necro, condi mesmer, d/d ele) i loose but others work pretty well. I have a zerker staff in my back in WvW.

Aww. just lost to staff ele … He constantly pinned me in his lava font, Felt like having 5 imobilize XD ..

Loosing to a staff ele is quite an achievement.

Juganot.1509:

Iavra.8510:

Vermillion.4061:

I’m highly against zergs but 5 players should not be allowed to kill an entire zerg.

Actually, they should, if the zerg is stupid enough to tank all AoEs.

in eotm maybe but a full level 80 zone blob being wiped by 5 people? nope that should never happen, even if the blob is stacked together and in full zerker gear.

Why not?

If the blob does nothing to kill those 5, why should blob survive?

gennyt.3428:

Nothing but shame induced salt.

I carry [Packet of Salt] to ping to that type of players when they start whispering me.

Nachyochez.9758:

Adapt, or Zerg.

Roaming is dead cos vast majority of players choose the latter, condi vs power has little to do with it, people always played builds that gave them advantage.

I love high dmg builds, I don’t really care whether they are power or condi, tho I personally prefer power as it suits my playstyle.

To max my dmg in power build, I am paper and my mistakes are punished very quickly.

To max my dmg in condi build, I need condi dmg and precision (for some builds), even those builds that would do more dmg with precision often ignore this stat or just get a piece or two of rabid, the rest is dire. In such a build (my mes), I have just over 2k condi dmg (no stacks), 24.5k HP (no guard stacks) and 3k armour.

There is very little incentive for condi builds to use any other gear than dire, which also provides high survivability. Having two defensive stats on gear with condi dmg as major stat and so few skills/traits that rely on precision is just a bad idea that resulted into condi tanks that can burst you down in no time.

At this point people usually claim that dire is just subpar to rabid in dmg output. Take your ele with diamond skin to wvw and see how many condi players will do any sort of meaningful direct dmg to you. The reality is that vast majority of condi players use full dire cos they have no need to spec for other stats.

The closest you get in the game to what you want is exotic bag purchased from fractal npc placed as the last one of all your bags. You need to scroll down to see your weps but still it’s better than searching all over the inventory. Works only for exotics, not ascended as far as I know.

NA and EU are not that different, only the peak hours on NA are more spreads out while in EU it tends to go suddenly quiet on the maps. Any silver league server are fine, watch out for servers dedicated to certain languages.

Also, I get 150-200 ping from EU to NA vs 40-50 in EU wvw, might not be same for you but it could affect your gameplay, especially if you roam a lot.

Why not make it so you can buy the skin you want from npc for 1 other fractal skin + xx amount of pristines. Would fix the situation where some are unlucky and keep getting skins they don’t want, without making the skins super farmable.

Knighthonor.4061:

I seen this at TT as well when (Edit out) or some guild was there at the start point and all ported away at last moment, and the world was left under populated and failed due to not enough players for a single wurm.

It’s a fairly common practise for larger guilds (especially on TT) to hop maps to load new map so everyone on that new map on there to kill TT and on their ts (they announce when to hop on ts). However, they do this in advance, not just before the spawn.

If weddings become a thing in this game, it needs a poly option too.

Mefiq.7039:

Had 450ap(new player) Mesmer in team, he started flaming thief for stealth build…

Once I wanted to channel skill point in some mob infested wasteland, so I dropped SR on it, channeled the skill point and got whisper from a mesmer standing nearby “Pls tell me what hack you used for the stealth, I want it too”

-_-’

At the end of the day we’ll get something super exiting like torch so we don’t get lost in shadows.

Some are ignorant, some choose to be ignorant for the sake of own self worth. No point arguing with those.

Azure The Heartless.3261:

ill still play thief. I put a lot of effort into gearing it.

I’m slightly disappointed every time I do though.

I just get bored playing thief these days but that’s probably due to me playing only thief for over a year when I got the game.

One power, the other condi build. People usually can get away from one type of dmg but when they have to fight both, it’s very difficult for them to survive. The power thief would be perfect with d/p, easy access to stealth for both of you.

snipers? pop reflect, alt tab….. yawnnn

make them more fun and give them weapon stow!

They’d be really awesome as a ranger pet, pretty, cute looking cats that slash your enemies in half <3

I learned to ignore Klaus, that chap told us to l2p or get out of the game mode, while alt f4’ing everytime someone wanted to stomp him.

and

While I feel sorry for T8, I admit T9 has been blast since friday. BT free wvw is amazing.

apocom.3172:

And as you stated, with full zerk you are above the crit chance calculated, so it would be better for you to user NQ. But not everyone uses full zerk atm. I have the feeling that I’m in need for some vita, espacially because I’m lacking condi remove without SA.

With HoT, this might make HK even better than NQ as we’ll lose guard stacks and the low HP classes will take a big hit with this. Zerker will have 12.4k HP base, which is incredibly squishy, and I think a lot thieves will go for valk/cav.

ArthurDent.9538:

Jayden Ennok.3687:

And what about average time a scrub level player needs to learn to solo the easier paths (on ele)? Just asking to know whether I am too re…kitten for this or I just haven’t put enough time to it.

New Lupi is much harder than old lupi, and according to a previous thread, old lupi normally took players 10-30 hours of practice to get their first solo kills… So you will probably need quite a bit of patience.

I see. I was getting frustrated as I didn’t know how much time it usually takes to learn lupi and I saw improvement on skips/belka/abdo but none on lupi. I am not looking for super fast kill time, I decided to solo the path just to learn lupi so in parties I can actually help.

Sagat.3285:

No just drop the vulnerability for blindness.

+1

I also like the idea of shadowstep on dancing dagger.