Surprise them and put up some siege. Nobody expects that in EoTM
How can we force desolation players play wvw when they are losing? Deso sure won’t lack players. That isn’t problem. Maybe anet could use fake score. Deso would have queue 24/7 every map if they think that they leading match.
Ok, that one made me chuckle
PEOPLE! READ HIS SIG LINE!
Doesn’t necro have a teleport ability? I can’t remember, but seem to recall one has a “recall to point” thingy …
Here people mark up the walls, and those standing on the walls can’t get near to cast down because marks extend beyond just the side of the walls.
Build AC halfway up the stairs. Then YOU get the advantage.
Easily destroyed by an ac outside using zoom hacks.
Nope. Have tested it. It works
They can see beyond the wall and top of inner keeps, but cannot target immediately next to wall.
Here people mark up the walls, and those standing on the walls can’t get near to cast down because marks extend beyond just the side of the walls.
Build AC halfway up the stairs. Then YOU get the advantage.
For every LOS issue from the outside attacking inward, there’s an equally appropriate spot inside defending outward. You just need to experiment.
I tried for 2 weeks just to get approved for team speak. No luck. I gave up. I did this both in NA and overnights. Kept asking, no one replied.
Wow. Really?
To be fair. He used to be on FA for a long time and think he was somewhat known. They could have been some understandable trust issues there.
Ah. Gotchya.
I tried for 2 weeks just to get approved for team speak. No luck. I gave up. I did this both in NA and overnights. Kept asking, no one replied.
Wow. Really?
Dear T3.
Make use of the GvG guolds occupying the enemy, gather up a group as small as five, and flip stuff. Take advantage of your newly occupied enemies. It’s win-win for all. Don’t force anyone to play a certain way, have respect both ways, and before you know it, you have a cohesive team where everyone is happy.
Guess you’ll have to move lower to play with friends and fam then.
It’s only T1 servers complaining about this, everyone else has had overwhelmingly positive feedback for this change. And if 23 other servers benefit compared to three, it seems that would be wiser for the long term of the game.
Watching Extant and the screen briefly shows the synth programmer playing a mmo.
Knew it looked familiar, so rewound and paused. Initially thought it was Pang, and I gave a little cheer for the WvW placement … Then I looked again and realized it was some newbie zone, Norn bear cave by the looks.. Well blah.
Still nice to see the game alive and well into the future, lol.
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If the taunting is getting too much in whispers, you can always .. wait for it .. block them.
And then they can’t whisper you.
Yes I know, that’s not the point of the post. The right click feature itself imo makes no sense as it has the complete opposite effect from its purpose.
It’s really useful for congratulating an enemy on a good play. Not everyone uses it to troll
Made tons of new friends that way.
If the taunting is getting too much in whispers, you can always .. wait for it .. block them.
And then they can’t whisper you.
NA and EU are not that different, only the peak hours on NA are more spreads out while in EU it tends to go suddenly quiet on the maps. Any silver league server are fine, watch out for servers dedicated to certain languages.
Also, I get 150-200 ping from EU to NA vs 40-50 in EU wvw, might not be same for you but it could affect your gameplay, especially if you roam a lot.
NA and EU are massively different in play styles.
I tend to equate it like this: In NA, WvW is like having a second job. In EU, you log in a few hours, you get drunk with your guild, then you log off to join your family for dinner. Absolutely there are some elements of NA-job style in the top three servers, but even those guys are more casual than NA about it.
NA tends to be about the ppt. EU tends to be about the fights. Although you are going to get both that kind of style from different players on both sides of the pond, particularly at the upper levels — not so much rank 5 and below.
As for ping, I live EST and find that my ping is better in EU than it is on my NA account. I have no idea why.
25% of nothing is still nothing dear. It would be a lower score, yes, but week results would still be the same.
There’s only enough of OCX, SEA and EU players on NA for 3, maybe 4 servers if we want to have good matchups.
Well exactly. And they’re currently trapped in full servers with no hope to expand if friends/family join up for HoT.
If they go lower, amd go as a group, they have options at least.
Piken Square (EU) just went from Full to Very High.
Ack! Shaddup!
1 am NA time will be dead for most EU servers too. It will start to pick up again around 3am NA time (EST).
However, daytime 10-3 runs into EU prime (EST or PST?). Most gold league server and some silver have very good GvG guilds.
Visit gw2wvw.net and look at the gvg section to get an idea.
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We had that, (albeit by accident) one week.
It was the week of the deadly flying mesmers.
Ah fun times
Always ready for ya Jayne, i think there’s still some of my arrows stuck in your butt from last time <3 Still running condi mesmer?
Oh hooray! Absolutely look me up!
And kinda-sorta .. I’ve always tried to run hybrids, Anet kind of screwed with that now with the mandatory 3 trait line, so I’m readjusting and relearning (which sucks). So probably perfect timing for you to put another arrow in my butt
But then if you don’t fail, you don’t get better.
Wow, that ’s a good idea. Oh wait it already exists, better, they already exist. Crafting areas in pve capitals. Just remove it from wvw, remove mobs as well while you are there. Ty
Naw I use it to change gear, get siege, food etc .. you can use the banking side of the crafting tables to get/store stuff. Having an actual banker on map helps too, but if you don’t have the banker upgrade in your keep (worse still, you don’t own any property), then you have no options to swap stuff out.
You can access your bank from the guild rep on every map. “I want to access the guild bank.” > Change the drop down menu on the top left to personal account vault. No need for crafting stations. Get rid of them. They don’t belong in WvW.
Those are purchasable upgrades in keeps tho no?
i think that if people have to keep saying that t1 is the only viable place for sea and ocx, it just means they are not confident with that “fact”, thus is a propaganda.
Or the SEA/OCX players organize like the GvG guilds did and spread out over three servers in lower tiers (cheaper xfer rate, guaranteed fights, friends/family can join, etc.).
JQ has 2 ocx guilds, BG has 1 or 2, TC has 2. I know if 1 of the JQ guilds left it would place an unreasonable burden on the other that would have a detrimental effect. There aren’t really enough guilds to spread out.
Which is why I was suggesting they all coordinate and go to a lower tier. That way they can add to their numbers without a cap. And have guaranteed fights when they play. I believe there are some lower tier servers with OCX/SEA already. This gives them the chance to grow. Right now they are stuck with what they have now. It becomes a numbers game, not growing your guild. That’s not much fun.
Some good EU havok/roamer tags:
[Haaa]
[BNF]
[TCHU]
[JDG]There’s a ton more but that’s off the top of my head.
Yeah Frou’s guild has a ton of videos and delightful to watch on youtube … they are stellar roamers .. lemme see if I can find a link:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmjknpoCV0Yk86XVWVcTsvw
I <3 Frou.
You mean the runners when their lock gank fails? Portalling away when you catch them solo? yea “good” roamers..
Oh now now, jealous isn’t a good colour on you darling.
Makes you look sallow.
No jealousy attached, anyone can run away like a scared girl like they do. My motto is engage kill or die.
I gave up trying to offer duels in match threads. A few accepted, and then nobody would after
If we’re matched, we should meet up.
Some good EU havok/roamer tags:
[Haaa]
[BNF]
[TCHU]
[JDG]There’s a ton more but that’s off the top of my head.
Yeah Frou’s guild has a ton of videos and delightful to watch on youtube … they are stellar roamers .. lemme see if I can find a link:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmjknpoCV0Yk86XVWVcTsvw
I <3 Frou.
You mean the runners when their lock gank fails? Portalling away when you catch them solo? yea “good” roamers..
Oh now now, jealous isn’t a good colour on you darling.
Makes you look sallow.
Put the stations in the ruins so people have to fight eachother to craft.
Haha, I’d actually enjoy that
Wow, that ’s a good idea. Oh wait it already exists, better, they already exist. Crafting areas in pve capitals. Just remove it from wvw, remove mobs as well while you are there. Ty
Naw I use it to change gear, get siege, food etc .. you can use the banking side of the crafting tables to get/store stuff. Having an actual banker on map helps too, but if you don’t have the banker upgrade in your keep (worse still, you don’t own any property), then you have no options to swap stuff out.
^^ Actually it didnt work out, and we made thing worse in T3.. SBI will not fight at all now, CD is total joke with very poor skills and no competent commanders to PPT, and even mag wont fight unless its small numbers of blobs. A lot of us moving down from t2 to t3 really arent happy with what happened. T3 was supposed to be like the EU GvG scene instead it turned into a mess.
Well maybe it’s short term pain .. growing pains? EU GvG is really cohesive. I think you guys in T3 have a chance of shaking things up at least T2-T3 and having an abundance of different matches weekly — and leaving Tier 1 to its own devices.
Maybe an investment in training, a few days a week of blue tagging it (I know gvg guilds have no interest in this), but perhaps a little bit of help can turn it around?
Influx of new players is always going to have some pain with it as everyone adjusts. It’s hard to change your pov after you’ve been used to things a certain way for so long.
i think that if people have to keep saying that t1 is the only viable place for sea and ocx, it just means they are not confident with that “fact”, thus is a propaganda.
Or the SEA/OCX players organize like the GvG guilds did and spread out over three servers in lower tiers (cheaper xfer rate, guaranteed fights, friends/family can join, etc.).
The GvG guilds first transferred into a single tier, then split to fight each other. The SEA and OCX simply want to do the same sort of thing.
Aye, that’s what I was suggesting
I believe they get the medium designation because people were afraid of what it would do to the microcosm of the lower tier server if they opened it up as low/free xfer. They tried that in the past and it had disastrous effect on the free xfer servers. So they have to maintain a minimum fee (ie: medium) so that there is a cost to xfer and part of a thoughtful consideration.
i think that if people have to keep saying that t1 is the only viable place for sea and ocx, it just means they are not confident with that “fact”, thus is a propaganda.
Or the SEA/OCX players organize like the GvG guilds did and spread out over three servers in lower tiers (cheaper xfer rate, guaranteed fights, friends/family can join, etc.).
Sounds like the population cap is working as intended. Move to T3, stop trying to bandwagon full servers.
The servers aren’t full though. Just because Arenanet says it is full doesn’t mean it is. We have no queue on JQ since reset. Does that sound like a full server?
No but it does sound like mass coordination to try to lower the headcount
My +500 far shiver peaks EotM friends wanna come sfr. They said that they don’t wanna die whole time and need karma.
Calling these threads for what they are. Well done
Naw you’re right, it’s a pain. I’m just thankful I discovered it’s trebbable, so I share whenever I see these threads come up.
P.S. I believe you can use a balli at one spot at edge of that tower to hit that spot, but you have to have the extra range balli WvW point thing activated. But then you’re countering aoe attack from below. Coin toss.
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Has everyone tried updating all the various drivers (graphics, sound, etc) to Win 10 from the company websites? I have had zero issue with Win 10 and GW2, but when I get black screens it’s typically a driver error in my experience. Either that or my RAM/graphics card is dying …
Have any of you tried typing in the word “delete” by chance? I know it’s supposed to be the character name, but worth trying?
See where your tagged guy is? Drop a balli on him. Or go below those guys and put up an AC. Better still, drop a treb on the shed inside that tower and nuke from a safe distance without having to defend in the open. You can then use that treb to nuke garri — double duty!
While you cannot damage the JQ guys in an invulnerable zone, the siege itself can be destroyed.
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I think given the influx of GvG guilds to T3, there likely would be a shake up t2-t3 … Which would make being on those six servers a lot of fun.
Some good EU havok/roamer tags:
[Haaa]
[BNF]
[TCHU]
[JDG]There’s a ton more but that’s off the top of my head.
Yeah Frou’s guild has a ton of videos and delightful to watch on youtube … they are stellar roamers .. lemme see if I can find a link:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmjknpoCV0Yk86XVWVcTsvw
I <3 Frou.
I am just thankful that ANET is gearing the new map to be EOTM style. There were right to not listen to people like you.
I’m actually more concerned they’re listening to people like you. If you played WvW in any longterm or invested manner, you’d realize that this would be the death of WvW. WvW is unique in that it requires teamwork to accomplish big big goals. That cannot be done in EoTM style simply because you cannot be guaranteed to have the same players with you on any given map. Lack of consistency of players and you lose momentum to work together in reliable ways. Lack of momentum/coordination and the map becomes a massive k-train instead of the elegant game of chess it is now. It will rip apart any sense of “team” work.
More and more of these threads are popping up. I’m afraid that the new WvW maps will indeed be like EoTM and all these threads are just social engineering schemes to rally up support for the “big surprise.”
I wonder how many posters in this thread actually play WvW and how many hours a day/week. Feels like a lot of weekend warriors responding, who don’t understand the true dynamic of this aspect of the game.
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Guys you are being so cynical. I’ve been highly critical myself of the lack of attention for WvW but let’s give them a chance here: The new map looks great and they are aware of the issues we brought up.
Let’s see what comes out of this, hopefully the server system will improve and so will the PPT/Reward system. Personally I just wished they would keep the Alpine map and bring EotM in the PPT rotation as well.
Not raging, flaming or anything but:
- What chance are you talking about?
3 Years not enough?In my opinion it’s about time to stop using words such as “please”, and start demanding stuff.
It’s not F2P game.
Then they can choose not to respond at all. They have your money, it’s not a monthly sub game.
Honestly, be optimistic for once. Encourage rather than scold. See if you grow roses instead of the brown stuff.
WvW Invitational Statement from John Corpening, game director for World vs. World
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Hi, I’m posting today the transcript of the statement that John Corpening, game director for World vs. World, made last week at the beginning of the World vs. World Desert Borderlands Invitational. Enjoy!
Interesting that we hadn’t heard about this statement in the forums until now. No WvW forum regulars got invited as PvE streamers took all the slots? Or maybe some did but took the statement as non-newsworthy spin?
What forums and youtube streams have you been on lately? I’ve seen links to the video version of this statement in multiple places including here. So what if it took them a few days to get a red tag post for it. That is the least of our worries. It’s gamescon week & a BWE weekend so we should be getting flooded soon enough.
As to the statement itself, they pretty much have the right stuff targeted for work in the correct order so it will just have to be seen how many resources they are given to work with and how long it will take. In general WvW changes seem to come 6mo or so after talked about so we are looking at next spring for a lot this. Will be interesting to see where things are then but I expect the novelty of HoT ought to last at least till then for most of us.
Psst, here’s the link on the wvw forum for the video .
again, based on your logic, you are adapting eotm way of doing things.
No, EoTM is people mashed up against their will, no choice of who they play with unless they take forever to taxi people in, the score does not count, Linear, gimmicky PVE choke pointed K training place where you are more likely to die falling off of something than die from players. No, that is not the same as an actual battle field map without all the gimmicks, choke points and cliffs, where you choose who you play with, can even choose to have it closed off to public to gvg, and actually prevents players from entering the other maps unless it is balanced as the system I suggested.
The scores should still count and there should be actual personal player rewards for winning.
You’re assuming people will behave like adults. Which, historically on GW2, they aren’t capable of. This will lead to a whole series of screechy threads about elitism and that kid won’t give me my ball back, blah blah blah.
Since they removed the hybrid trait choices, there are no longer any good roamers
WvW Invitational Statement from John Corpening, game director for World vs. World
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TLDR: “We’re looking into it.” It’s the same statement we’ve heard many times, from Devon (what, two years ago?) to all the various community managers who’ve posted here.
*slips something into LK’s drink.
OMG THE WHITE KNIGHT IS BACK!
:p
Let’s go into HoT optimistic! I know, I know, it’ll bite me, but let’s be happy for a bit. What the WvW dev said is exactly what we’ve all wanted. Let’s hope it comes to fruition — and let’s hope they talk to the community more (and we can encourage that by putting our happy faces on .. chop, chop!).
but when your server is full you can go help a server with population problems while in queue, providing they are on the same alliance. You can only have 1 guesting server per week.
Oh hahahaha … have you met the GW2 player? Particularly the WvW version?
Anything that can be potentially gamed and abused is discovered and exploited. This particular part of your explanation would result in pages and pages of “rigging” complaints (we already have those now, but this would just enable it for those who like to do that kind of thing).
When all maps are full the gameplay is fair. It’s as simple as that.
Doesn’t address your statement that if map is full you can jump to another server. That would be abused. You know that.
It went into effect last week.
but when your server is full you can go help a server with population problems while in queue, providing they are on the same alliance. You can only have 1 guesting server per week.
Oh hahahaha … have you met the GW2 player? Particularly the WvW version?
Anything that can be potentially gamed and abused is discovered and exploited. This particular part of your explanation would result in pages and pages of “rigging” complaints (we already have those now, but this would just enable it for those who like to do that kind of thing).
What would suck with this idea is the 30-something players you’re used to playing and working together with on a daily basis, would be RNG map with overflow because of the sheer volume of players, and the idea of “team” would disappear entirely.
Please no.