Guild Wars 2

Turtling is just another legitimate tactic to utilize, it may take a little time to get used to breaking it’s shell, but when you see one utilize one of your optional counters. You should be able to deal with it accordingly and force a different play style from the teams you are up against.

Counters:

Ballistae in choke points (eg. let doors fall with 3 ballistae behind the door hold door with guardians blocking and just bodies)

Mass hysteria – Fear, Stomp, Kicks, or anything that just causes players to be broken up

Portal bombs – Quite effective and will wipe them fast if you are organized

Thanks for clearing up the glitch stuff. Strike Force [SF] doesn’t usually roll EB unless we can all hop in with an instant queue.

We didn’t detag or leave map right away, we took the bay and ported back to the other map..

Ishuria.6372:

Hi guys, I’m Iserah from WM on SBI.
Some people said like “SBI=WM” but it’s not true. It never be true.
Of course, “WM is SBI” this is true cause we are loyal to our home land.
But, “SBI is WM” is not correct. We are just one little part of SBI’s power and feel happy for that.

There are so many guilds and players who make every efforts for SBI whether WM stays in battle ground or not. We can’t stand alone if there’s no one who always watch your back and working hard somewhere out there at any time.

As you know, most of wm crews are not good at english, include commanders. Language barrier blocked us hard from our powerful allies in the begnning. But today, all of SBI commanders include wm, always trying to communicate and helping each other. It makes us well organized and strong.

So, Never underestimate our comrades. They are strong and respectable enough even exclude WM

Mucho appreciated

cold.3946:

JQ puts the kibosh on our ninja golem rush. GG tonight – heaps of fun.

I think I see myself killing the last Arrow cart that was on the floor in the middle of Garrison. Don’t those carts belong on the roof and ballistae pointed towards the doors with cattys??

I was thinking the same..

Syphen, it’s actually kumbaya, and I feel bad for the 2 JQ scouts that were harmed in the filming of this rendition of Days of Our Lives…

Jesus Christ, that was a lot of walls of texts I didn’t read!

Anyway, I can understand the lack of gameplay that’s out there right now from some ppl.

I will give my hats off to JQ as usual now. That almost made me cringe, but I have been forced to respect a team that can really stick it to you if you make a mistake as a server on the map.

I will give my hats off to those of you in BG that were on the battlefields consistently. Tier 1 isn’t anything to scoff at. You guys came in with a new tactic to Tier 1. It is creative, thank you for something new and interesting to break. I’m always going for the zombie kill of the week, you guys helped me earn that by killing turtles. I skim most of these posts for the most part because a lot of it is broken record stuff. With that being said, I know there is a lot of complaints, but now that your server has gotten some T1 experience, take it back to T2 and refine yourselves and come back rejuvenated. Trust me ladies and gentlemen, the perspective change is quite nice when you see a high level of WvW. People may come in with new tactics such as you guys did, but these players that you are playing against are extremely versatile and are capable of adapting to change rather quickly. Keep it coming with the fresh new ideas to the table. I hope to see you guys in a week or two. We have taken our beatings on the SBI and JQ side and learned our humility, this is your turn.

GG so far everyone, let’s kick it in to higher gear before this match is up!

Arani.9057:

1. underestimating a foe at all tends to be a nice pride before the fall thing, let alone what they would look like after xfers for hitting T1. Aside from how much SBI and JQ would love to paint our houses in each others blood, other servers seem to want nothing but “take down” whoever seems to be holding #1 at the time.
2. I don’t think anyone who gets to T1 and wants to hold it for any amount of time would do well by pre-trash talking a potential competitor, or assuming anything is a given.
3. The match isn’t over

QFT

Not to mention what a shocker BG was out of the gate when they first came in. I’ll be a lil’ more apprehensive to watch my back as I’m trying to get my loot bags off of dead JQ’s better this time

Oh I know why we are winning, it’s because of the GW2 Illuminati that I wanted membership to. They directed it all!

Cover Girl, we shouldn’t feed the trolls, and it was brought up by one member of the SBI community that we should be “friends” with JQ. We will respect them, but on the battlefield, we will torment their penguins and kill their clowns…don’t ask.

Although I appreciate the humor, it only adds more fuel to the fire to those that like to play in to that game on purpose to rile the masses.

When you kill the lord, the ring will pop up still, so it’s still capable, we were learning this the hard way yesterday

During the 3-4 hour siege of JQ/BG v SBI at the bay yesterday the lord went all Leroy Jenkins outside of the wall while it was down. The lord died, wall was repaired, lord never went home, he’s just chillin’ outside like a boss probably saying “come at be bro!” “GET SOME GET SOME.!”

Welcome to Tier 1, where if you are spotted as a weak link, you will get dominated by the other two monsters on the map. I could care less about your “proof” of 2v1, get used to it. I used one example as a “working example.” If you’d like we can pull out the history of old with all the JQ/SBI/HoD/ET/IoJ fights.

You should also do an analysis on times of unmanned buff as well, if I see someone with an unmanned buff, I know I can cap more land on them, this raises my ppt and overall score.

A cat is pushing a watermelon out of a lake, your argument is invalid.

It gets so hard to not attack one server at times because you don’t want to shift primary focus to you and cause the 2v1 toward you. So if the momentum has already started to swing to a certain 2v1 situation, chances are it will stay that way for a while because the other 2 servers are consuming more of server 3’s territory.

This typically will happen on the homeland maps especially.

Team 1 from SW side of a map will go for all of West side of map and have south camp flipped for ppt.

Team 2 from SE side of map will go for all of East side of map and have south camp flipped for ppt.

Team 3 from North typically holding garrison will go for all of north and get a good gauge for what the other two teams are doing. Typically you will see the home field team take more abuse from the invaders on their map.

Why is this? Well, it’s just basic, if I’m SW corner trying to attack let’s say SE corner items such as the SE Tower, there’s a spawn point right there. The response times from pugs alone can decimate your team with a quickness. So, instead you play smarter not harder. Although, if one of the Southern team pisses in the other teams cherios enough, you’ll see an influx of offense going to the other South team.

When you have servers splitting the home map team that’s trying to defend or take the two north towers it automatically can put the home team at a disadvantage.

There’s also the perspective that you have to put in when you gauge things like coverage. If I know that JQ or right now BG has an awesome EU presence, I know that I have to hold their PPT down during my time the best I can to negate their resurgence in ppt when I’m not on, or when I know my servers weak times are. This will help me balance the overall score to the best of our collective teams ability.

As a working example from yesterday on the BG BL. SBI was 2v1’ed for a few factors that you can legitimately point out.
#SBI holds lead ppt
#SBI holds lead points
Just these two points on their own are enough to attack during that time, but you also factor in SBI has a strong Oceanic crew that is facing teams with less strength than them. This can be a comparison in skill and or coverage, but it’s bee widely pointed out and proven, especially as of late, that those guys are rockin’ it hardcore for SBI.

Since that was the primary focus map for what it looked like for BG and JQ, it only makes sense that they were on the team that is in the lead.

So from an SBI perspective, we all collectively seen this yesterday on the BG BL and rolled with the punches the best we could, and I think we did a kitten fine job on doing so. Cheers to all 3 servers for a hell of a fight!

Ehhhh, ladies and gents don’t get too kitteny. Let the maps tell the tale

But I finished two classes last night! Mommy said I can join in on the fun today!!

Pain train leaves the station tonight sir!

Time to rev up them engines kiddies, it’s that time of week

^ what Jib said with added words of support and uhhh happiness and “coming in me.”

I thought this was a score thread, we should all be able to..
http://youtu.be/pMfV0sVQ_VU

1:19AM CST 10/28/2012

So, I see lots of walls of texts that my attention span can’t handle, but if everyone can take a step back and remember one thing about the orb when someone busts in. It gets glitched if the original player holding the orb is downed and the orb disappears from the map. This isn’t new, this has happened quite a few times. I’d call legitimate take of the orb unless proven otherwise.

As for the shenanigans from last night, our “Orb Defenders” as I called DA last night were truly watching things like a hawk the best they could. I wish someone could have gotten a screenshot of anything that happened. If this was exploits at work, which it appears to be, I hope BG can flush it out and handle business as the rest of our servers would.

Good luck and keep up the hardcore fights!

Sorry ladies and gentlemen, our server is already full (This is the actual status). Many of our teams still have guildies trying to get in at different times of day and I haven’t seen a huge influx of people I don’t recognize on our BL maps or in TS.

::walks down a line with JQ and IoJ like in High School football saying good game giving the traditional hand shakes (don’t worry I didn’t spit in my hand this time)::

But…one of those orbs were during primetime.. As for the statement about superior coverage, I think the score can speak on that. We all know the gaps that are there on SBI and we all know JQ has the superior coverage for all timezones.

JQ packs a hell of a punch, especially when during the day everything gets hella upgraded, we are trying to cap anything we can in sight to keep that tick high when we have more of the SBI population on, we’re not too far behind I think we can either get really really close or quite possibly take it!

Just a heads up, the team leads from SBI decided it was a great idea to go for 1st throughout this whole matchup. There were talks of, what about all of the server transfers? Well, we figured we could just deal with it when it happens. Plenty of our guilds have agreed that no matter what, we are going to stay because of the community we have built together.

As you can see, on some borderlands we are actually forcing IoJ off of the map once they drop in population so we can keep up in point ticks. Again, it’s not personal, we’re just trying to keep up and have consistent pressure on JQ from both sides

Arani.9057:

SBI has proven for 2 weeks they don’t give a crap what the score is and JQ knows to expect they will fight back… Nothing makes me happier than to be assigned to SBIBL for this very reason …

QFT

You’ll have to excuse Zibzab, we forgot to padlock the cage again. He means no harm

Thanks for all of the good fights thus far ladies and gentlemen. All I hear is laughter and obscenities that would make Jesus statues cry blood, which leads to more laughter. Also thanks for keeping the entertainment value of GW2 extremely high.

Gates opened again, feel free to stop on by our site and give us a holler.

If anyone has screenshots and names of anyone from SBI utilizing any in game exploits, please PM me the information, I will be sure to post on the Stormbullf Isle forums and work with the GM of said guild and get a report in to Anet on said player. Should help keep the thread a lil’ cleaner, coming from the team leads, we don’t appreciate any form of exploitation from our server. Even a whisper of it on our forums gets moderated relatively quick.

Oh and here’s some scores from a lil’ bit ago, gg out there everyone.

Kita.7819:

WvW needs to give something besides badges. It needs to reward involvement not through some random token system, but something based on deeds done. If I lead a successful zerg, I should receive some sort of entitlement. If I earn enough of that, I should earn proper honors such as being a commander

You earn respect and recognition by your servermates. If you do well, people will listen and follow. If you fail quite frequently or not learn from mistakes, chances are people will troll you or just decide not to follow you. So, your response to your reward is the respect of your fellow peers that you have earned rightfully so.

From early days on, they have always been a team to follow their lead, and a team that sets new metagame.

http://www.guildwars.com/competitive/finalbweladder/default.php

Before today’s matchup is over, I’d like to say a couple things.

What happened for HoD’s server this week was pretty bad, but I’m sure they will pick things back up. I know there are quite the tactical minds left over there and people willing to pull through and get things together again. Thanks for attempting to make map presence the best you guys could. I’d hate to see this happen to another server.

For JQ, on the last point with HoD, I hope your normal home teams don’t decide to up and leave to another server. It would really suck to see the HoD effect happen to another server. On the bright side, I believe both SBI and JQ had some really awesome fights during times of higher activity. I know I had a hell of a time during primetime hours with all the other teams that participated. You guys helped us get more creative on how to retake a map. We’ll see if things translate to a 1v1v1 situation that is more proper.

Good fights all round to every participating in WvW from all 3 servers.

Thanks,

Hrm… Looks like I may have the opportunity to go head to head against an old partner Mira soon

Always a pleasure to run side opposite of the map of you Baha, I know things are taken care of over there

Echo all the SBI posts, we’ve been in trenches every week aside from our 1 week spent in tier 2 against massive servers. Try starting off every day with maybe one supply camp on the map you are working on that night, every day. It’s hella fun takin’ it all back though Also with a score that’s like 1 maybe 200k ahead of yours, you tend to flip the f it switch and go for mass murdering with that evil grin on no matter how you can.

I’m quite comfortable with you guys holding that potato atm

It’s more fun to come in to a clean slate of green and have to paint the town red by the end of the night! See the pun intended…

Mucho appreciated, the majority of us stopped caring about overall score and are pretty much playing to throw down and have a good time. I really haven’t seen any complaining from members on our forums or in game either. We’re appreciating all of the hard fought fights that are happening.

Hats off to all the good fights we’ve all been having throughout this week!

…yes, Arnold came out last night….

Most of the team leads from SBI have been making sure that people aren’t burned out or worn down from the constant WvW. So the statement that certain teams are on certain maps at times would be correct. Plus, there’s a whole world of the game out there as well that you can farm for gold, which buys siege, which gets more loot bags to buy more siege!

In any case the team leads have felt as though that when you play during your time, go for the fun points and do as much damage as you can when you are on, that’s really anyone can ask. It is a 24/7 fight, if you can’t field all the teams to cover that and only look at the overall score, you’ll prolly get all nerdraged out about it. Instead, people are preferring to take the patient route and have some good competition while they are online. Oh and quieting those that cry in map/team chat, that helps squash negativity after they understand how the teams are working.

Wait, there’s a champion grub on the WvW maps?

Enjoy!

I think that people are probably more upset with the fact that they paid for a working product and that product is not functioning as intended. Anet has always been pretty good to us in all of their games, I’m sure they will get everything together soon.

+1 for entertainment value. The trollfactor toward Anet is quite amusing as well. Hopefully they can get things up and running soon!!

We started to call this Hell Mode, especially when you get rooted and a bunch of explosions happen on you, you really get that disabled feel like you get in Diablo 3. Most definitely a higher level of difficulty level in the game. Plus, it’s awesome having this new cloaking technology on my Warrior, I’m like a Thief with a free cloak cast!

My guess would be a failed communication at one point. It gets pretty tense on all ends when we are rushing a portal bomb and not wanting to screw it up. You really don’t want to be the guild that screws the pooch on a portal bomb. Then everyone points and laughs while you try to unscrew the situation. At that point, you say, OKAY WE WERE RUSHING THAT SUPPLY CAMP OVER THERE RIGHT??!!!!!! GOGOGOGOG, everyone follows and you pretend like nothing happened (Not like this happened last night or anything…)

I highly doubt either of those guilds were utilizing an exploit. If they were, they get disowned by the server guilds. Both guilds are upstanding in our community of SBI and have had quite the amount of progression input for the server. Working with their team leads they frown upon said actions from happening.

What you are experiencing is more than likely one of our Mesmers pulling a fast one on you by hiding. I know last night I had a mesmer that successfully hid in the Hills keep for about an hour and 20 minutes before he was found. He wasn’t too happy with me when I finally called the portal and he was found and wasted all that time hiding.

Oh for you IoJ guys on the SB map tonight, trust me, BG had to deal with a swarm of SF tags on the east side of the map the whole night, so we are keeping them busy for you

Btw, BG teams that we were fighting tonight, you guys are a hell of a crew, you forced us to utilize strats that we have to use against JQ and HoD to get the job done by the end of the night.

IoJ teams on the West side of the map, you gave the commander on that side a lil run for his money, you guys were doing a hell of a job forcing redirection, you actually forced us to send 10 from the West side to assist, which lead BG to push us off and back to our supply camp :x

A pretty good matchup during prime time hours. I will say that all teams really can hold their own when their queues are full. Perspective is from the Stormbluff Borderlands.

IoJ – Pretty solid player base, it appears that they are really getting the map manuevering down, you see dedicated teams pretty much all over the map when they can afford it. Good job at increasing your line of sight and clearing up that fog of war for your team. By the way I’m getting sick of those trebs in your tower on us constantly >;x

BG – Appears to be a defensively sound team, especially during prime time hours. I’ll have to show you what a 3 hour siege on a keep can do for wearing your guys down, (Thanks HoD for two nights worth of that by the way) my guild likes to run around in circles with fireworks while we wait for the walls to fall, oh and the flame ram in the supply camps or on the roads are not meant to troll, it’s more of a team trademark. It’s a long story and it involves coming home inebriated one evening and logging on…

Good match so far guys, keep up the tough as nails fights out there.