Guild Wars 2

This game isn’t worth spending 1 billion on.

I’m not willing to fight for a class that doesn’t even know what it wants to be itself.

thanks Anet xoxo

Was pretty interesting till my game disconnected.

It kinda scares me cause I think Anet might take this post seriously…

LB + Cleansing Ire.

Ision.3207:

For many of us endgame is enjoying the game in the manner which we like. Whether that be fighting in WvW, doing PVP, roleplaying with guildies, dungeon crawling for new skins, grinding mats for a legendary, doing some DEs, leveling an alt, taking part in the living story, trying out new builds ….. ect, and on and on.

• WvW is just plain kittening boring, and is accessible at all levels.
• PvP is not “endgame” because you get access to it at level 2. It’s not exclusive.
• Roleplaying with guildies? What are we 12?
• WOO YEH BABAY NEW SKINS THAT HAVE SAME STATS AS ALL OTHER WEAPONS
• Legendary grinding? Yeah for a sweet looking skin. But aside from it’s “cool points” its just as useful in battle as an 80 exotic.
• Yeah, how fun. After doing them over and over again while leveling, I can’t wait to do it when I’m 80. At least people will see how pretty I look now though.
• Living story is crap
• Trying out new builds? Is that even an endgame?

Things you forgot to add

• Don’t even mention 100% map. Running around and jumping is NOT a character progressing endgame. The least it can be is “fun”.

Phew, now that that’s off my chest, let the rage-filled casuals tear me to shreds. I am ready.

I’m honestly on the verge of quitting. The game is just so kitten boring. Seriously.
But on topic:
Great read; this guy speaks the truth. I want to play the game and have fun in the way I enjoy having fun in MMOs. I’m a little upset with the lack of progession overall in the game but that’s tolerable. But do NOT tell me that this game is filled with endgame features including 100% map completion. While yes, it can be considered as an activity to do once hitting the so called “end-game”, I do not enjoy running around and jumping for hours.

PS: Zerg vs Zerg sucks. End of.

Was invited and played this weekends FFXIV: ARR beta test.

I see no reason to open GW2 anymore.

Agreed. Aside from Endure Pain, we need a lot more ways to mitigate damage. Not necessarily by allowing us to tank it out, but it could be done through evades etc.
It’d be nice to see our heals being reworked too. I was a bit dissapointed to see all of our healing skills being untouched this patch (FFS DO SOMETHING ABOUT HEALING SIGNET) so perhaps in the early future?
But as for the essentials we need, you’ve pretty much hit the nail on the head.

Diablo.1384:

JoakimFA.4713:

We kill or be killed.
That’s how we survive.

we cannot kill if we cannot survive

I know, I just thought it sounded really cool to say that at the time.
lol.

It’s going to be hard not to burst into:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBR2G-iI3-I
if I hear my character shout that out.

We kill or be killed.
That’s how we survive.

Defektive.7283:

JoakimFA.4713:

Just played a few games with this build, and I must say it is quite solid.
I ended up switching sword to mace though…

Can I ask why? I feel like without Sword your mobility would be so so poor.

I don’t know. I’ve honestly come to love Mace and how much control it gives over my opponents. It helps in team fights too, if a target needs to be locked down so the rest of my team can burst him down.

But yeah, it does have low mobility ._.

Just played a few games with this build, and I must say it is quite solid.
I ended up switching sword to mace though…

Dand.8231:

JoakimFA.4713:

Grow up kiddies, Cleansing Ire was one of the best additions to this god-forsaken patch.

I’m not really complaining about Cleansing Ire, per-say, just saying it would be better off proccing just before the burst skills instead of after.

I’m sorry if you had felt offended by that, but I wasn’t directing that towards you hehe.

Not to rant, but another weird thing I noticed about earthshaker…. blind causes my attack to miss all 4 opponents in my AOE. Ok, so I guess it’s a single attack. But when I used signet of might to smash a guardian mid-shelter cast, it must have used up my 3 unblockable stacks on the necro and his pets, and the guardian gave me a BLOCK… so…uh… wth?

If it’s a single attack, shouldn’t it have used only a single Signet of Might buff? And if it’s multiple attacks, shouldn’t the first opponent I MISS clear blind and the rest get hit? Whats the deal?!

#warriorproblems

So, let’s say that Warrior burst mechanics changed, so that the adrenaline is used on a burst regardless of whether or not it hits or misses. This means that you can guarantee the benefits of Cleansing Ire right?
Rightly so.
But changing such mechanic will just kitten the adrenaline system and we will be constantly spending and/or wasting our adrenaline even if our F1 skills miss. It is such a waste, seriously. I do not want to be forced to build up adrenaline again just because I missed my F1. Especially not after the changes to blind.

But Yoshioka, how else are we gonna hit our F1?

There are so many different ways to chain CC’s in order to hit your F1. Shield Bash is an example. So is Bull Rush. Maybe instead of just spamming skills in which ever fashion you want, think about when and where to use them, in order to, not only maximize effectiveness on opponents, but on yourself. Grow up kiddies, Cleansing Ire was one of the best additions to this god-forsaken patch.

vapor.5390:

look at the bright side, you can use it to run away without bugging at all

thoughts on taking Burning Arrows? or is the vit tree really not worth putting points into.

Cygnus.6903:

JoakimFA.4713:

It was ruined.
Ever since the patch, LB Warriors have to spend 20 points in Tactics, a completely useless tree, in order to pick up the 20% cd reduction. Furthermore, as LB F1 being the only F1 skill that uses adrenaline bars even if missing, taking up cleansing ire is a pretty good idea. But that’s 20 points into defense, which I don’t really benefit from over another tree, such as arms.

I’m missing the reason as to why you HAVE TO. Aren’t you happy just to have more options?

I don’t think the patch got warrior out of the bottom of the pvp depths. But in WvW, I think we’re not the free loot bags anymore.

Maybe “have” to was too much of the wrong word then. But in all honesty, why wouldn’t you? its 20% reduction in our skills which, as I see it, more damage output over time. My point was that the trait itself was situated in a tree which doesn’t benefit LB in any-which way. Unless I’m wrong, please show me a viable tpvp LB build which benefits from Vitality and Boon Duration, as well as gaining benefits when reviving people.

Why were our heals untouched this patch?

It was ruined.
Ever since the patch, LB Warriors have to spend 20 points in Tactics, a completely useless tree, in order to pick up the 20% cd reduction. Furthermore, as LB F1 being the only F1 skill that uses adrenaline bars even if missing, taking up cleansing ire is a pretty good idea. But that’s 20 points into defense, which I don’t really benefit from over another tree, such as arms.

Epic.3950:

Name one other skill that shares this “addition” and I wont call BS, till then I see it as just another way for Anet to systematically screw the warriors and frankly im surprised there is neither a trait to change this, nor any outrage on the forums about this already

I actually noticed this a while ago, but I never really wanted to complain on it cause I thought that’s how other skills were for other classes were too. I was kinda kitten ed off before, but now that I know that Warriors are the only class with such mechanic, I don’t even know anymore.

The upcoming patch is the last chance im giving Anet to rework PvP balance, not just specifically to Warriors, but other classes too.
If they screw up this time, I’ll be shelving my Warrior.

Hmm, I haven’t played much of LB/Sword – X, as I usually run LB/Mace-Sheild, but ill throw in a couple cents here and there.

LB works well both condi and power wise, so I think for runes either-or is fine. But strictly speaking, I think LB/Sword should run condi over power. Depending on how you are built, there are a lot of different options in condi runes. And of course, if you want to focus on bleeding, you can stack different bleed runes in order to get high bleed durations. But its probably just preference. I haven’t tried much of power LB/Sword-X.

As for traits, at least 25 is essential in Arms. I don’t need to explain why. From there I would most likely put some into Strength and Discipline, depending again, on how you play.

The way I play, I can’t run without Shield. I’ve honestly fallen in love with it.

Bas.7406:

Defektive.7283:

I wouldn’t leap in joy just yet.

The condition removal on burst was precluded with hints towards grandmaster traits.

If that’s true, it’s a 30 pt trait thats going to define our burst condi removal. This could potentially just throw us into one build once again.

THat’s still better than the zero builds you have currently :P

I’ll admit it. I lol’d.

If these changes actually get added, I would be a very happy Warrior. I’d have to rework my build a bit (but lets be honest, theorycrafting Warrior is extremely fun). It’s nice to see the cooldowns on heals being shortened, as well as buffs on our utilities (Endure Pain <3). I don’t particularly agree with some of the changes with the swap-around on certain traits, but whatevs. But in reality, I don’t think this list is real haha. Oh well, with high hopes finally restored in me, Anet better not screw it up again in the upcoming patch.

Would it work with Combustive Shot for an open BBQ party?

I don’t mind the idea, and would be an interesting thought for how and when to use HB.
Sounds kinda OP though.

It pulses, and those pulses are affected by power. If running a power build you can easily see those pulses hit above 1k, so no, they are not weak at all.
The burns however are affected by condition damage (duh).

1. Class balance cough warrior cough
2. Game modes outside of node capturing
3. Open dueling or a dedicated dueling area in the mists.
(Yeah, I was a WoW player and I honestly enjoyed just hanging out in Durotar dueling randoms and just chilling and watching other people duel.)

Speaking in terms of tPvP (based on my experiences playing these setups):

A/A: Not in a great place right now. Axe main (running zerker) is great for evisc but thats about it imo. Off hand axe’s whirlwind isnt super great damage wise, but it makes gaining adrenaline easy.

GS: One of the more common weapons run in PvP. Only problem I see is that most Warriors running GS are using the generic HB setup. Mix and match and feel what is right for you imo, the GS is still a capable weapon away from Frenzy.

Hammer: A lot more common now. Great CC’s on the opponent and the damage is likable.

Longbow: My personal favorite. Great AOE and single target damage. Skills are often dodged or miss often however, so it’s not just some ranged button masher.

/popcorn

15char

style.6173:

Why is there all this QQ in the warrior forums? Go try WvW where every zerg wants a ton of warriors. You will be loved there.

What the hell kind of attitude is that? If people don’t want to play WvW just because its not their cup of tea, why would they need to just because they class shines there a little more?

Fact of the matter is, there are problems to be fixed (YES, OUTSIDE THE WORLD OF WvW CAN YOU BELIEVE IT) and A-net hasn’t made much of an effort to even consider the numerous suggestions on the forums.

I throughly enjoyed reading through this thread haha
Interesting to see people who still believe Warriors are okay in the state they are in now (in terms of tPvP).

Fenrir.5493:

no devs can do a good warrior class.

I kinda liked the Warrior class in TERA :/

Still not worth coming back to.
Maybe until devs read the forums and take on the communities suggestions I doubt we’re gonna be seeing good days any time soon.

A bit late on this train. Frenzy was toned down from 100% faster actions to 50%. So yeah, it’s a littler harder to land all HB hits.

It’s all we got. Might as well deal with it.

Super Riceman.8702:

SILENCE!
You and your target cannot use healing or utility skills for 5 seconds, any healing or utility skills you & your target are casting when you use the shout are interrupted.
Cooldown 50 seconds, Range 1000
No effect for either of you if you cast it out of range, cooldown is same as an interrupted skill.

That would be really friggin awesome. Not sure about the idea of silencing yourself though haha.

Swarley.8642:

7/10, her eyes are nice, but her nose is too flat and her skin is a little too pale

this is my first character, Caitlin Roe, an elementalist
she’s also in the order of whispers, if you couldn’t tell ;D
(first two are bad quality, last one is high quality)

8/10
I really like that calm look she gives off.
——-
Intoducing, Yoshioka. She started off as a Mesmer but is now a full-time Warrior.

Faeyd.5094:

Judging by most people I’ve met in GW2 the end game is to make a female toon and try and get it’s jubblies to show and wobble about when you move.

Yep, I’ve hit end game a long time ago.

…a loooooooong time ago.

Oni Link.4621:

Longbow

• Burst skill: Need a slightly improve to response. Slightly increase to normal damage.
• Skill 1: Fine.
• Skill 2: Fine.
• Skill 3: Fine.
• Skill 4: Increase damage.
• Skill 5: Fine.

Skill 1 of Longbow should have the bleed effect from RIfle’s Skill 1.

Oni Link.4621:

HEALING SKILL

• Mending: Fine.

Mending needs to be on a shorter cooldown imo.

Oni Link.4621:

Signets

• Signet of Fury: Change active effect to “your next 5 attacks apply 2 s Weakness and 10 s Vulnerability” (so 5 succesfull attacks mean 10 s Weakness and 5 stack of 10 s long Vulnerability). Increase cooldown from 24 s to 30 s.

NO.

I’d honestly just be happy with Mending on 20 seconds.

But if I were to add a new healing skill, it would probably be:
[Enrage] 20 second cooldown
Heal yourself for X and gain 2 stacks of might (5 seconds) for each condition you posses.

If Anet’s goal isn’t to make Warriors better at removing conditions, at least let us turn it against our opponents.

Ultra Hades.4691:

The biggest mistake you made was… rolling a warrior.

Signed
-Warrior

I lol’d.

…but then I cried.

Veldan.4637:

I agree with the OP, longbow traits to Arms. One could maybe also argue that it should be in strength (condition duration/power), but not in the other trait lines.

Pretty much this. While it would be very nice to finally have those traits out of a useless tree, not all Longbow builds revolve around Condition damage.
As far as I’m concerned, pushing a pure Condition Longbow build is either hit or miss (literally). Pin Down makes up for so much of your damage and if it doesn’t connect…well yeah.

Lorelei.3918:

Anet: Just put a bleed on LB auto attack. For Rifle, take bleed off auto attack and improve its power scaling.

^

Healing Signet:
Updated skill facts to show the passive effect and accurately display the healing value for the active effect.

HOLY kitten THIS IS JUST WHAT I NEEDED THANKS ANET

[mod edit: removed swear word]

Vahnz.9742:

The way ANet wants warrior played is to dive into the front lines, do a butt load of damage with big weapons, die, rinse and repeat. Kinda like a warhead being dropped.

By the looks of it, I don’t think ANet wants the Warrior class to be played at all.

I find this whole class funny.

Brilliant post, and great read.

Thanks!