Guild Wars 2

Zinrae.3769:

skullmount.1758:

Miss Firesss.3704:

Thanks to the new achievement points…..sigh

And it seems we’ve probably given up for now, till reset anyways, looking at the live wvw map.

Nah, that’s just due to a coverage difference between us and the other two servers. It has been happening pretty much every day. You can also look at Kaineng’s previous matches and see their point spikes at ~6am in those too.

Yeah, Kain does come on during that time. But last week DH seemed to have some sort of European force. You’d take all our stuff during that Prime Time. And we’d have to take it all back at NA Prime Time.

And I too was surprised that you all had more of a drop off from the new PvE content that we did – shocked actually.

Raven.9603:

Im calling BS on anyone in this thread claiming they are picking up lootbags with area loot from 2000 units away.

Pets deserve a decent leash range, which they have. The change was for pvp, but in wvw your pet shouldnt be able to chase 1 guy halfway across the map either, whether or not you think it would be funny. In pve, now that pets dont get proximity aggro, long leash ranges could completely break dungeons more than the aggro change already does in some cases.

Halfway across the WvW map? Wat’re you talkin about? Pets can’t even see someone across a bridge.

I’m on the fence too. Maybe I’ll grow to like it. But it would be much better if it stealthed you regardless of if you hit.

ArchonWing.9480:

WvW is not the center of the universe!

Blaphsemy!

as well as PvE extension (aka EB)

Lol, that’s funny!

Atticus.7194:

Esplen.3940:

Hey, just because you’re outnumbered all the time doesn’t mean you’re guaranteed to be in last place…

Just look at NSP.

True but given that we’ve been consistently slipping down the WvW ladder and in our current bracket are regularly getting spanked due to our server having next to no WvW coverage I’d say we’re on the decline and headed for an even lower ranking.

Wish I had something more positive to say =/

What’re you talkin’ about? NSP is winning this week.

And more importantly, it looks like a close match.

Chris.3290:

rank 7 against #13? Yeah, BP is having a grand old time….

Let me add the caveats that BP is better than their rank (they are realistically #11) and EB has lost two of it’s largest guilds (they couldn’t hack losing to BP.)

Either way, every week for us has been a curbstomp, 6 on us, 2 on others (though CD fought really hard that one week!)

Oh that’s right, you’re on SoS. I was about to reply as if you were on BP. Cause BP has had some good matches – they beat us (SBI) 3 times but it was relatively close.

I don’t understand what happened to EBay – I thought you all were excited to get out of the months long trap of BP and AR.

As for SoS, even though we will always lose to you all I like fighting you. I suppose its selfish but we are pretty evenly matched in NA Prime time.

I have a feeling there isn’t anyone you will really match up with well. You’re either going to be curbstomping in your Ocn, or getting curbstomped in your NA. Maybe Mag, but then who would the 3rd be?

Or in WvW just run all three – Muddy Terrain, Spike Trap, Frost Trap + Entangle. Oh my you’ve just made the enemy very upset.

I play only WvW and run a LB/GS trapper build so I consider myself support mainly. And currently I’m using Eagle Eye and Spotter (don’t think I could ever give up EE with a LB).

I considered trying Remorseless but I agree with others and think I’ll stick with Spotter.

(I’ve never tried Piercing Arrows, might have to throw that on once to try it out. I was never sure how much it would actually hit more than one target so I never tried it.)

Yeah, 3 is weak, needs more.

And I agree, Tsohg, the 1h sword is annoying as heck. Even with the blast finisher on warhorn, I’m still not going to take it because there are no main hand weapons I like.

And I only play WvW so Swoop is awesome to get around. Man I’d really like to blast my own waterfield though.

I too did not see the big deal with repair costs. But apparently, it is a reason that a lot of people do not go into WvW. There’s a thread about why PvEers do not play and this is one of the top reasons. I know many of my friends say this too – and they are estatic when we get the outmanned buff.

Maybe the top tiers don’t care since they have queues. But getting people into WvW is a big deal for the lower tiers and it would help immensly if more people would come out and play.

People who are saying thakittens not hard to earn gold in WvW have to realize that compared to PvE, yes it is. You simply do not earn as much in WvW as you do in PvE. And yes, different playstyles earn different levels of gold.

Maybe they could make a losing buff too. If you’re losing the match, you don’t have to pay repair costs. Or if there’s no queue on a map, you don’t have to pay repair costs. I don’t know, I just want to encourage more people to come in and play WvW.

Seems like we are vulnerability applying machines now. Perhaps I’m missing something but it never seemed like that good of a condition to me?

Rapid Fire – awesome!
Hunters Shot – cool, I’ll have to think about what I’m going to do with stealth
PBShot – nice
Maul – meh, guess it depends on how much vulnerability, I kinda liked seeing all those bleeds popping up
Counterattack – nice
Call of the Wild – aw, I don’t want to use a warhorn
Remorsless – no room for it

I may get chastised and berated for asking this but how does the Guilded Infusion behave in WvW? Guilded Infusion: +20% Gold from Monsters.

I assume all the NPC’s in WvW are “monsters” for the purpose of this infusion yes?

Are enemy players considered “monsters”? (Do they even give gold? Or just loot bags? I can’t belive I’ve never noticed.).

I mean, I could have +20% gold which seems like it would really help since all I do is play WvW and I’m quite poor. Or I could have a measley +5 something.

Windowed mode should not be allowed to be used in WvW. I don’t know if its technically possible though – probably not.

I don’t mind the enemy reviving the fully dead, actually when I see it I start salivating – they’re not attacking and are easy pickins. Commanders always tell their troops not to rez the dead.

The problem is the rally mechanism. Multiple downed people rallying off one death. That is rediculous. Rally should not be in WvW at all imho.

Clockradio.3257:

Incoming thread closure. Character assassination is against forum rules, my friend.

So is griefing.

I mean these guys are like mobsters. Everyone knows who they are and what they do but no one can do anything about it.

We had a couple of these types on my server for awhile. We continually reported them. They finally disapeared. Don’t know if Anet banned them or if they just got bored of us ignoring them.

All you can do is have everyone on the map report them. Oh, and take screenshots and send it to Anet – I forget the exact place to send it but its on these forums. (I think it may be support).

I’m surprised at the number of people who say the repair cost is keeping them away. I basically only WvW so I’m not as rich as PvEers and the repair cost is not that much. But hey if that would get more people to play then heck, Anet do it! Drop the repair cost.

Another thing they could do is get rid of the rally mechanism in WvW. This would make dying not such a big deal. This is most of the reason you have the serious WvWers being negative towards PvEers and uplevels dying.

Imo dying is fun. It shouldn’t be looked down upon as much as it is. Anything they can do to make people less afraid afaid to charge into battle and less afraid to die would be good.

To paraphrase Braveheart, Fight and you may die. Don’t log into WvW and you will live, at least awhile. And dying in your bed in Lions Arch many years from now, would you trade all the days from this day to that, for once chance to come back here and tell our enemies that they may take our lives, but they will never take our Borderlands!

If you’re going to die, die well.

I think I’m going to head straight to Bluebriar and defend it tonight!

Nice! Makes want to go in and play now. Glad its reset night!

But what does this mean?

“for any player that qualifies for a reward from the boss”

It doesn’t matter what the odds are – hasn’t made a difference so far. SoS you know you’re going to be facing TC.

I’d put it at 99% chance of SoS and TC together. And if you’re not with TC it’ll be SoR just for laughs.

Oh and yeah, if you all ever get together and go to a casino, invite me. I want to play some roulette with you all.

What article you all talking about? They say something about an pseudo orb of power?

What happened to JQ? You all were like HoD 2.0 a few months ago. 3-5 players? Man most servers would beat you all in that time.

I play different toons. But I don’t think its a problem. Its more fun that way. You get different variety. If I’m getting bored of WvW, I just switch toons. Almost like playing a new game.

Nyx Xox.3540:

Draygo.9473:

DoggyPaddler.3586:

Nyx Xox.3540:

LOOOOOOOOL I love how people from SBI tried to make a treaty with kaineng!! ROFL. We will not resort to those tactics just so you know. We’d rather lose by using everything we got then teaming up with another server kthnx.

Lol, is this guy serious? Not that I know anything about a treaty, but the thought of someone proposing a treaty is not that funny.. Maybe it was just one to many ’O’s in his laugh.

One person or a group of people do not speak on behalf of the whole server. Your dumb comment and pompous attitude for example; I will not think your whole server is dumb and pompous.. just you.

What IS funny is youre a commander. LOOOOOOOOL, do I have enough ’O’s?

I hate to be the one that breaks it to you but…

well should I? I this post quite amusing as it is.

ONE I AM NOT A GUY. TWO I’m not placing your whole server in this BS, I just refuse to embaress the guild who requested one. They’re not a small guild on your server, FYI and it was more than one guild involved in contacting us. So know your kitten before you try to run your mouth (: oh and if it was not enough “O’s” before here are some more. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

First let me say that I knew nothing of this. But there are good 2v1 and bad one’s. A treaty/alliance can be smart, effective – and most of all fun. Unfortunately, a lot of people are put off by the idea. I’m not sure why your regard it outright as something negative or underhanded. A proper 2v1 is a good thing.

There are certain times of the day when DH completely dominates both of us because of population differences. They roll over the entire map – both of our maps.

At these times, it would be smart and provide the most fun for those playing on all three servers, for SBI and Kain to not attack each other and fight DH thereby allowing a defense against the raging DH hoarde.

Depends on if you want to do solo/roaming, small group/havoc, or large group. Which do you want to do?

For large organized group, Mes is awesome – and highly desired. A glamor build with Veil.

Rangers are good for solo/roaming. People rag on them for large group but I love mine – its a nice break from having to Veil all the time. I run a trap build and it works well and is helpful. But there are other options.

I hate to sound like a broken record but the problem with both matchmaking systems we have had so far is that the matches are being made by a computer.

The original one was bad for the lower tiers. This one is bad for the upper tiers.

At the top it has got to be SoR-BG-JQ and TC-DB-FA for any semblance of a good match. You could maybe switch out TC and JQ every once and awhile – we haven’t gotten a chance to see yet because the stupid computer cannot see that is something that should be done.

Instead the stupid computer puts SoS up with TC five times!

This system at least needs a person to monitor it – someone else mentioned “adult supervision” – and that’s a great way to put it. For example, when the current set of matches was rolled by the RNG, a person could have looked at it and INSTANTLY said, oh kitten. All that person would have had to do is switch DB and SoS and bam, we would have had good matches.

Yeah, rally needs to go. I don’t see how anyone can defend it the way it is now.

Hi LkPr, I’m on SBI too and we’d love to have you join us in WvW! Guardians are great and you’ll find plenty to do. I’m not a guardian so I’m not the best to say exactly what but I do know that Hammer Time is awesome

Check out our website, www.stormbluffisle.com where you can introduce yourself, find builds, tactics, strategies, etc. We also have a community Teamspeak.

Prosecutor.1457:

8 Hours of boredom, SBI knows how to work it.

Stop repairing the wall as we Treb it and coming to destroy our Trebs and we’ll come in and fight ya!

Wayshuba.5912:

Last week EB came in third. This week is even worse. Here we go on Saturday morning, not even 12 hours after reset and this is what we have. Two servers being so rolled, the Eternal Battlegrounds in owned almost 100% by Crystal Desert. I mean owning 100% of Battlegrounds already?

EB usually has a fair sized zerg going by Saturday AM. There were a whole “3” when I went there. Why? Because people are getting frustrated with this.

Here is Eternal Battegrounds this AM. CD is green, BP is red (the one camp) and EB is blue (not a single point on the map).

This is quite interesting. Considering SBI has recently played both BP and CD, I would not have expected this to occur. Must be some strange dynamic going on.

This match I don’t think is one you can complain about. I mean, its 9-10-14 and 10 and 14 are winning.

Edit. I guess CD has a good sizeable Ocn but in our match SoS kept them in check so it wasn’t as noticable. And BP never did care that much about Eternal.

Sweet! The matchup I was hoping for.

WvW Tourney?

Man I feel for you all. I think SoS have rolled 20 on a 12 sided die for the past 5 weeks! This is the biggest bullkitten “random” RNG I’ve ever seen. (Yes, I meant to say 20 on a 12 sided die)

dunnberry.2964:

On that wouldn’t mind facing yaks and DH again, or really NSP or GOM maybe, would really like a shot at kaineneg or crystal desert and maybe even mag…still tired of SBI right now

Agreed, we’re tired of you all too still. Watch, just for this the RNG gods are going to match us up tonight.

I’d like SBI to face Kain and Darkhaven.

I’d also like to see AR FC ET and SoR BG TC.

I’ve actually always wondered why people don’t fight more in the JP. I mean all these people wanting small group and no siege fights and GvG’s – why don’t you go in the JP and do them? I would think it would make for some interesting fighting and tactics and strategy.

Yes I can see there will be people throwing accusations at Anet for playing favoritism – but its not like people don’t endlessly complain about the matches now. Plus, Devon seems to have thick skin. And it would be a team of people making the matches – not just one person of course.

I did mention that it was harder to do than I thought because you have to give someone a bad match. And SoR is going to have to have a bad match sometime. I don’t think TC should be put up into “Tier 1” matches every other week – that was just for illustration purposes.

I mean look at the past few weeks of matches, TC has been dominating their opponents (most of the time it included SoS). They deserve a chance to see what they can do against SoR and BG and JQ. If they get facerolled, so be it.

Another point to make about 3 way matches is that it makes a difference what the “third” server is. What I mean is that when SoR, TC, and SoS were matched together, SoR dominated. That’s because SoS couldn’t provide a third competitive level of opposition. This is an example of a match that never should happen. Now as many agree, if that 3rd server had been BG, it would have been totally different. A person would be infinitely better at analyzing this aspect than a computer.

I also forgot to mention that a manual matchmaking system would be even better for the EU servers. Their matches are all kind of messed up.

So lets see what tonights rematch gives us. (Someone should make up the EU bracket and compare it to what the current RNG system comes up with – but don’t just put them into the old – “Tiers”)

Ormiga.6183:

fileark.4709:

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btw you guys take forever to figure kitten out

+1000 to this. Seriously, what the heck takes so long for you all to do anything in WvW? I mean we get a new storyline and content in PvE every two weeks!

I’ve been supportive so far but my patience is wearing thin.

I think it would be great. A lot of people would like it. Especially the no siege part. It would add another dimension to the game.

I don’t know about a map bonus though. I don’t think we need any more mechanisms that make the strong stronger. We actually need something to help out the weaker team, but that’s a completely different subject.

Something like this would also work in the wasted space that is the NW and NE of the BL maps.

But its not going to happen because it appears that Anet cannot alter the maps…

Come on down to us lower rated servers. Don’t have to worry about queues. You can have your GvG’s and then come in and help us fight the good fight and kick some server tail.

Oh, and I would think the best place for it would be the vast wasted space in the NE and NW of the map.

Hey Tobias come join us in WvW more often – not just the JP. Come fight with us and die with us.

We need people. You don’t have to be good at 1v1 to be good at WvW. There are many, many things you can do in WvW to contribute. WvW is mostly about group play. Group fights.

I’m not very good at PvP. I lose most all the 1v1’s I’ve ever been in. But guess what, I don’t get in them – so its very few and far between.

And despite what people think, Rangers can be good at group play – and help their team. I love my Ranger in WvW.

And if all else fails, hop on an AC and then come back to the fourms and read all the people QQing because you killed them

August 2
Sanctum of Rall
Blackgate
Tarnished Coast

Dragonbrand
Jade Quarry
Fort Aspenwood

Crystal Desert
Emory Bay
Maguuma

Borlis Pass
Darkhaven
Yaks Bend

Stormbluff Isle
Sea of Sorrows
Kaineng

Henge of Denravi
Anvil Rock
Northern Shiverpeaks

Gates of Madness
Isle of Janthir
Sorrow’s Furnace

Devona’s Rest
Eredon Terrace
Ferguson’s Crossing

July 26
Blackgate
Jade Quarry
Sanctum of Rall

Tarnished Coast
Emory Bay
Dragonbrand

Maguuma
Sea of Sorrows
Fort Aspenwood

Crystal Desert
Borlis Pass
Stormbluff Isle

Yaks Bend
Kaineng
Darkhaven

Gates of Madness
Northern Shiverpeaks
Anvil Rock

Isle of Janthir
Devona’s Rest
Eredon Terrace

Sorrow’s Furnace
Ferguson’s Crossing
Henge of Denravi

July 19
Blackgate
Jade Quarry
Tarnished Coast

Fort Aspenwood
Sanctum of Rall
Dragonbrand

Maguuma
Crystal Desert
Yaks Bend

Sea of Sorrows
Borlis Pass
Emory Bay

Stormbluff Isle
Henge of Denravi
Kaineng

Darkhaven
Northern Shiverpeaks
Isle of Janthir

Gates of Madness
Devona’s Rest
Sorrow’s Furnace

Anvil Rock
Eredon Terrace
Ferguson’s Crossing

Some people like the new matchup system, some like the old, some want something different. But all have generated copious amounts of QQ. I’ve posted that I favor a manual matchmaking system. I think a human could do better than any computer in making the matches. So that’s what I’ve done (I only did NA because that’s where I play and I don’t know much about the EU matchups).

I have to admit it was harder than I thought it would be. One reason is that you have to give someone a bad match, it’s inevitable because of the differences in the servers. Another reason is that, no offence, but FC and ET just don’t match up well with anyone as far as I can tell.

Obviously, in a real setting a month’s worth of matches would not be made ahead of time. I did that just for illustration purposes. I’m not sure where Kain fits in because of the recent changes in their server and the same goes for AR. So depending on the first weeks results, one might need to adjust the later weeks.

Are these matchups better than the computer has been able to do – under both systems? Worse? Would these matches generate as much QQ as the past ones have? Or more because people would be able to blame humans instead of chalking it up to chance? I think they’re better. What do you think?

July 12
Sanctum of Rall
Blackgate
Jade Quarry

Dragonbrand
Tarnished Coast
Fort Aspenwood

Sea of Sorrows
Maguuma
Emory Bay

Yaks Bend
Crystal Desert
Borlis Pass

Kaineng
Stormbluff Isle
Darkhaven

Northern Shiverpeaks
Gates of Madness
Henge of Denravi

Anvil Rock
Ferguson’s Crossing
Devona’s Rest

Eredon Terrace
Isle of Janthir
Sorrow’s Furnace

fishball.7204:

They should just change the deviation to slightly lower the values. SoS should not be fighting SBI, it’s not remotely fair to SBI who has a 400+ rating lower than us. A bracket of - 200 rating, maybe yes ok but 400? No thanks.

1 up 1 down sucks because every week JQ would stomp a T3 server into oblivion. A lower threshold of deviation would both allow for ‘fresh matchups’ without too much roflstomping.

But I like playing you all. Just not every week. Only once and awhile.

Plus, we are closer to you all than you are to TC, despite what the “ratings” say.

Well good, the kitten contest actually turned into a debate about strategy – if you can read through the chest thumping.

Siege in a camp is nothing new and a completely valid tactic and can be part of an overall strategy. It helps the server in many ways.

It’s designed to do exactly what it did – prevent a havoc squad from taking the camp easily. It also allows a few people to hold off a larger enemy force longer until reinforcments to arrive. It provides PPT and a base for supply for your troops and upgrades.

As far as coming out and fighting 3 people, eh, that’s a situational judgement call. Depends on if you feel like it or not. But if your team is counting on you staying at that camp and protecting it – then it would hurt your server to abandon your post to go have a 3v3 or whatever.

Regarding yak and sentry points – has Anet publised the actual points that they add to your score? I’ve seen the end of the match pie charts that show the points – and it looks quite substantial – but I’ve never found a formula or anything.

Uh, wut?

Snowreap.5174:

it seems like, with the server populations we have now, we have two alternatives:

1. close matchups without any variety (leading to boredom)
2. varied matchups that involve a lot of blowouts (leading to bitterness)

-ken

I would agree with this – but not entirely. These are the two alternatives IF a computer does the matchmaking.

There is a third alternative. A human being sets the matches.

Anyone who has been paying the slightest bit of attention to WvW could sit down right now and make a months worth of matches that overall would be 100 times better than the last months matches. Or the month before that… etc…

Is it going to be perfect every week – no because the server strengths are different. But it would be a lot better than any matchmaking system done by a computer.

Hey old friends!

Lol and guess what comercial played before the video came on – The Lone Ranger.