Sounds like the mood is already trashed….
Did you visit the last zone where you got your last POI, Waypoint, Vista or Heart to get the 100% AFTER visiting the Chantry of Secrets?
You guys need a room or an instance together?
I have litterally FORCED Yaks bend pugs to walk away from a tower to help stop spawn camping. I have litterally WATCHED SF/GOM take a tower (when the had none) without calling in troops who were spawn camping and not watching the map. Grow up Yaks – spawn camping is not for us.
Commander speaks the truth. Most of the big organized guilds pulled back giving enough time for GoM to come out. Can’t make the PUGers (hyaenas) what they do best.
Our (Yaks) /map and /team chat last night was filled with plea to stop camping and allow GoM/SF to zerg out.
Eternal Battleground: Warrior (Aurora Glade) vs Guardian (Miller's Sound)
in WvW
Posted by: Kazak.8459
I always /cry /bow and /salute after a decent 1v1 (even during zergs). Without your opponent putting up a good fight, WvW would be very boring. Sometimes you lose, sometimes you win.
I hate people who /laugh at the dead bodies.
Search is your friend, I’ve had the same problem, here is a fix:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/BUG-100-World-Map/first#post453832
I checked last night in WvW and it’s still 10s, is tooltip wrong? Or is the nerf only for sPvP?
They left last week from what I understand, which was a large chunk of regular WvW’ers, so you can understand where I am coming from in trying to get organized.
Of course man. Culling and free transfers are doing a lot of damage to GW2 WvW
Best of luck to you guys!
I am done arguing this point. Come out to BG and we can bash our heads where it actually counts.
We were spanked by SoR, who had a lot of JQ large guilds transferred to during our match up. We were in worse situation than you guys. Therefore, we got bumped down, which in turn will bump us two brackets again next week. It’s a freaking yo-yo.
We fought some of the top tier servers/guilds before. No thanks, I am too casual for that gameplay.
And read my previous point, I DO think a week long match is an over kill for a match. 3 to 4 days is plenty! Wish Anet would listen….
Right, that is my point. We took the lead the first 24 hours of this match up. But it wasn’t through sheer outnumbering. I believe our server was mad at last week’s loss and we were way organized across all maps.
I wish the Anet would match the servers according to prime login hours rather than some pointless scores.
PRO is gone from GoM?
They were pretty good, always stayed together and fast zerged everything. I’d died plenty to them.
Jski, not entirely true. Yak took the lead Friday night after a very organized guilds placements in all Battle Grounds. Yak’s large guilds took foreign BGs and the famous commanders took our own BG to drive PUGs to the right locations.
I, myself, went to bed about 1 AM (Mountain Time) and we captured all the key points before the night crew came in for the sweep.
All 3 servers were neck to neck until finally Yak started slowly take the lead. The same continued Saturday. So this war was won by the regular day crew of Yak. The night crew just finished it off.
I think all our servers had good size zergs going on Friday night. I just wish we didn’t have to wait another week for a reset. 3 days for a match is plenty to keep things fresh.
penatbater, right, that’s the reason I am there. I don’t care about the orb buff. I think it’s OP right now and totally would help the losing team.
A lot more PVE players come out to WvW when their server dominates for WvW mapping and jump puzzles. They see how cool WvW is and stick around for the real action.
Best of luck Osskil, as a Yaker, I enjoy facing GoM in the field!
Hopefully we will meet on a battlefield and can “Corp Por” each other until “In Vas Mani” appears
I don’t know, I like the idea of “Capture the Flag”. I think the buffs should be reversed though to help the losing team.
The server(s) without the orb has a buff to health/dmg/siege print drops/etc. The server with the orb has a buff to PVE junk. Siege would help the losing server to get back on their feet and the PVE buff would let the winner farm the karma.
The Orb running is just too fun, or intercepting the Orb runners with your Orb leaving the garrison!
To clarify — I don’t blame any server for this. I’m sure 99% of the people on that team know nothing about it. It’s a handful of obnoxious individuals doing it without the support of the server / team.
Ya sadly takes one idiot to spoil the fun for the whole week for others.
I stand corrected then. Hope you guys reported it and whoever did it. It happened to us (Yak’s Bend) a few weeks ago, but we returned the orb to other server for a fair fight.
Do you know if it was the flying hack that was used? I sure hope Anet is blocking that exploit soon.
On Friday night Yak had a huge showing up. All maps had 1-2 hour queue, which is unheard for our server. Global verbal conversation among major commanders in the server and organization of large guilds in Yak really showed true colors. After last week’s beating, everyone was eager to come out and play.
Evel, I do agree with you, with 95% map ownage, it’s hard to get players into WvW. We were there last week. On Yak, I haven’t seen any new large guilds transfer to us (which is a good thing).
Less frustration and more research and learning. While we still have an exploit to see the other people’s IDs, sometimes I’d whisper the other side and kindly ask for their build or advice after they trash my face into the ground.
See how people play their awesome characters, how they build them and what gear they use and then you can judge it if it works for you or not. Only you on the receiving end know which build works or not.
Sometimes I get my jaw dropped as well and like I said, I am full exotic and a crap load of vit and toughness.
Don’t get angry and just research and see. Most people are more than happy to share their master pieces and get noticed for their builds.
A few times I rolled over a few invaders, got the same whisper back to ask for help. I msged them back and met in a quite place to practice on the battlefield to the downed stage.
That youtube link is from a few weeks ago. Has this happened this week yet? I haven’t heard any orb hacks this week yet on any server. I am wondering if Anet quietly smashed all the wannabe heroes out there?
Friends/Guildies?
As a solo PUG (or a PUG zerg) you will get overrun by others. I (as a full exotic 80) take our guildie lowbies out and get them some badges in small skirmishes. A group of 5 can run away from large zergs, but can do a lot of damage in small run ins.
If you are only concentrating on dominating in WvW, then shut up, lvl and farm.
If you want to have fun in WvW, then find a group of people/guild who you can roam with until you lvl up to 80.
What I observed from GoM is lack of large guilds that take control and lead the zergs. I usually see a group of 10 max guildies running around and nothing bigger. It’s much harder to coordinate large assaults without support of organized guildie zergs for PUGs to follow.
As a guardian, it was very easy for me to break GoM’s small groups’ moral last night during their assaults. Suicide into their balista and pull the balista operators off and there goes their moral. I couldn’t do that against a group of one guild, they’d tear me apart. PUGs tend to run a lot faster when the battle switches.
I must be the stubborn, tunnel vision Guardian with the Zeal line, GS/hammer and symbols. Love the class, love the mobility and love in your face battles. 3,100 kills of casual WvW playing seems to me a guardian is alright.
To level a guardian, stack power up to lvl 50ish, then add a bit of vit/toughness just so you don’t have to worry much about missing dodges.
Learn how to dodge and see bosses’ large hits.
Guardians are great for straight forward in your face toe to toe combat. No sneaky bs, no portals, no pansy range pew pew. You Judge’s Intervention to your enemy and let them have it. Simple and straight forward.
As Sir Digby stated, Honor line will give you larger symbols as one of the traits. Have you tried that?
Fun battles last night in GoM BG. GoM took half the map back from YB, even though we had a few commanders on. Good job, guys!
Our queue to GoM BG was more than an hour because something was actually happening!
Just another Yaker guard.
BDWS, you have to have all numbers completed and not the progress bar. Having 765/766 POIs and 100% bar on top is NOT complete. You have to find that one missing POI before the solution above will fix your problem.
I’ve used http://gw2cartographers.com to find all my waypoints and POIs.
Hmm, I enjoy this exploit. Mostly using it for congratulating my victor. No way I’d use it to beg for mercy. Sometimes I’d get in a fight 3vs1, and all 3 of us going down… that deserves a “good job” to the dude who took us down.
I just confirmed this last night. AFTER entering Chantry of Secrets go back to the zone where you got your 100% from. Basically the last zone you completed.
I had the same problem and this resolved it. Confirmed by a couple of other people. Chantry of Secrets is only half the solution.
GS after initial burst is bland. I switch to the hammer most of the time to get retaliation going or lock a runner down.
If I am not in combat I run GS/Staff and then switch to GS/Hammer right before a fight. I constantly keep catching myself switch to a hammer just find a staff and saying “Oh kitten!” to myself…. so I just drop might on everyone.
You are right GS alone is pretty weak, got to combine it with something else.
Nevermind that was the trick! Got the rewards, woohoo.
So for those who have the same problem.
1. Complete all requirements in the global map (vistas, POIs, Waypoints, etc) Don’t worry about %, make sure all points are complete
2. Visit the Chantry of Secrets in Bloodtide Coast, Deadend Waypoint
3. Go back to the area where you last finished your 100% exploration!
Thanks all for suggestions!
Entered my last map and Black Citadel, no luck
Thanks for the suggestion though
Fildydarie, thanks for your feedback. I see quite a few guardians with a board bubbling up to res or push the bridge wars. Works great! I’ll need to try the sword as well.
MastaNeenja, not sure about your comment, was it offensive or sarcastic? If I use GS, I am doing it wrong, is that what you mean?
Durgish, did you just zone into the area or did you have to run to any specific POIs?
I will try my last place tonight and post the findings, thanks for a suggestion.
You guys might check it against http://gw2cartographers.com
Without this site I would have missed quite a few POIs and Vistas.
From reading the forums, seems like a cookie cutter guardian is whatever with 30/30 in vitality/toughness and 10 in whatever else you like.
I stacked Power most of my leveling career and was fine with it, but it was prior to the nerf.
On my lvl 80, I am power/precision/vitality traited with toughness/vitality gear.
1vs1 I win about 75% of the time. Zerg vs zerg I get at least 4-5 kills before I go down.
I usually run with a couple of friends/guildies who can cripple the runners,
Is that all your friends do? Cripple the runners? Are you sure they’re not doing all the DPS, too?
Since there is no dps meters in this game, just have to judge by the health bar and how fast it drops and who is hitting it. So as far as I can tell, when I get to the target and start my whirl, the health bar goes down pretty quick.
My point on this thread was, even if my build and class is kittened, I am still enjoying WvW and can see that I am making a difference.
One thing I would love to see and make the WvW fun for the losing side is no repair cost for dieing if there is an “Outnumbered buff” on.
Would encourage a lot more participation for players if they know they don’t need to pay 2-3s every 5 minutes.
Thoughts?
no i would not say we are insignificant at all. All wvw lovers
That’s the point, we have a lot more PVE people in YB than WvW. There is no way we could possibly provide zergs of 40-50 on EACH BG map.
I am still not sure how last week was different than this week. The only thing I can see is the influx of people to SoR. Last week we could actually fight you guys back and do some kind of tactics. Now it’s just a steam rolling zerg as soon as I see any SoR players.
-just another Yaker
Unless you are doing the Legendary weapon, if you are see what reqs are for your weapon.
GS for example requires Armorsmithing and Weaponsmithing, so a lot of heavy armor dudes go for those first.
For leap and twirl combo and you’d be surprised how many of them stand in it, or locked down and can’t move. That’s why I keep using it.
But like I said, it works for me, I tried different weapons and builds and my dps/survivability went down.
I am sure I will get flamed for this, but I am enjoying my Guardian in WvW.
I am in the nerfed symbol/GS group and still using my GS with my symbols and my hammer, still in the Zeal trait. I am able to keep up retaliation most of the time due to GS’s leap, Hammer’s #2 and stand your ground.
1vs1 I win about 75% of the time. Zerg vs zerg I get at least 4-5 kills before I go down.
I usually run with a couple of friends/guildies who can cripple the runners, allowing me to Judge’s Intervention them and lock them down with #5 chains. On large sieges I am either under the gate on the ram, or keeping my buddies protected from random brave bad guys. Also, my lasso theif buddy pulls the unfortunate snipers from the wall for my enjoyment.
So overall I see the decrease in overall dmg from the last nerf, but I haven’t changed my playstyle at all. Still loving the Guardian.
Have any of you given up on your Guardian after nerf?
Most of it is crafted, not sure about the shoulders though
I HATE the crafted dress look.
DinoBT, we try to fight back, but a zerg of 30-40 SoR would wipe a zerg of 10 YB every time. You guys are too organized and have a lot more WvW players. That is fine by me.
As a Yaker, I stopped plopping my siege down for this week. Not worth spending silver on prints and having towers last at most 5 minutes.
Hopefully this Friday, YB moral will come back.
Yak here. Last week SoR was different than this week, no doubt. The tactics I’ve personally seen SoR use on us the last couple of days were pretty awesome. The way the zergs moved, the way they retreated just to suck us out of our defenses to chase them and to turn around and crush us.
Even with Yaks commanders online, pugs were dieing all over and it was a huge hit on the moral here no doubt.
Tonight for example, we had maybe 20 people in Yaks BG, no organization at all. Just working fathers trying to blow some steam after work. SoR had a huge zerg roaming around wiping everything in its place. They were fast, organized and aggressive.
As a small team of 5, all we could do is sneak in the back areas and do what small groups can do, assault supply posts, yaks and random stragglers. We had our fun, we made a great share of karma/money with the outnumbered bonus (what a joke!).
Great to see so many people able to organize so well in SoR, wish we had that on Yaks. Hopefully the next week will give us more of the same population servers to compete against.
Good luck SoR, hope you take on the bigger guys. I will be cheering for you.
Kozak from yak
Keep spending my 1s 45c to teleport to the waypoint, 5th entrance, no results
That’s after the maintenance patch
Lust, that’s what we are after are the rewards and the “star”. As far as I understand the POI in Chantry was bugged, even though it was marked as “read”, it wasn’t counting towards 100% completion. The devs fixed the bug, so now if you go there as a undiscovered, it will register correctly.
The suggestion Anet posted is to revisit the Chantry of Secrets and that should reset everything magically. Well, this worked for some folks, but apparently not for me or Rook.
Rook, exactly my problem, I am missing a couple of areas as well, but this has been verified by others that you do not need all areas explored. For 100% map, you need all vistas, POIs, Waypoints and hearts done though.
Looking for those foggy and undiscovered areas is plain idiotic at this point. They are impossible to locate on already fuzzy map.
PS: Gaile, I’ve opened another ticket with a lot more explanation and screenshots demonstrating what was described in this thread. Thank you for your help.
Meta, I was missing a few POIs and 1 vista when I thought I had all 100% as well. Then started going through the global map looking for missing icons and found them in sylvari area, which I thought was 100%ed a while ago.
Not saying it could be your issue as well, but I was in the same exact situation when I 100% my last map…. at least I thought it was my last one.
