Guild Wars 2

Tossed Fish.7380:

Although I’m not going to be a kitten about it and say no to guilds whom are really interested in moving.

Some servers do it*…If you guys are queuing 4 maps on weekdays (even if it is rare) you should consider it…If not you may have a S2 implosion on your hands there bub.

*Yes I realize telling them not to come does not guarantee that they will not still transfer.

choban.9027:

I’ve heard some rumors that they are working on a new grandmaster trait called bearbow, granting bearbow rangers new F2 skill which will apply endless fear and cripple to up to 5 opponents while granting endless fury and 25 stacks of might to ranger and his bear friend. Those conditions/boons will be removed ONLY when all opponents are downed.

Seems fine to me!

I would quit the game!

TESO….

Jyeoi.6027:

Technically it’s free if Mag pays for your transfer =D

Show us on the doll where the Maguuman touched you friend….

I find it shocking that after all this time people are still shocked (themselves) that this game is chocked full of PvDooring karma training PvE’ers stuck in a PvP-ish zone….

These are roughly the only things useful to roamers in the WvW talent pool…

The plain and simple truth is that people are willing to try ESO and give up some of the “bells and whistles” of GW2 simply for the opportunity to play a game without so many of the fundamental flaws in regards to PvP(in WvW) that Gw2 has, and will likely always have.

Chewablesleeptablet.3185:

OP. it is your skill issue. there i said it.

I have no skill issue, skill work fine.

yes just emote…same goes if you get the “stuck state” bug after lightning flash/blink/etc….

Rangers are also scary.

I hate to break it to some people, but unless you are running condi bunker, most roamers are near-to full zerker…

There are some variations, like PVT armor -zerk trinks…

Aggrostemma.1703:

BREAKING!!!!44!!!

You MUST reroll now if you want to be competent in the next season!
The OP ranger’s next pet:

Oh just flippin great…Now got pig from guinea, game spinning out of control…Ranger take over with OP Bearbow builds, now pet going to get armors?

I already cant target stoopid bird pet, flying around head, furiously diving….Now I got try to find tiny gerbil thing scurrying across ground?!

Allie Murdock.8152:

You guys should hop into the Ranger CDI and say this stuff. Most of the Rangers feel that pets are actually not very helpful. It’s interesting how the feedback differs so greatly between this thread and that one!

Oh not, I no fall for that trick again! Last time I chase ranger it go in water, THEN BEAR GO IN WATER…I not fall for that thrice.

CDI prolly full of ranger waiting to pounce: pain, agony torment, much.

My favorite thing about leagues is the “now it matters” mentality that brings everyone out of the woodwork….Although that might not be as pronounced in S2 as it was in S1…Given the failings of S1….

Blockhead Magee.3092:

I’m not sick of AC. Not 6 months ago, not 3 months ago and not today.

We are just glad you were able to minimize the game while being on your AC to type that.

Asclepius.4396:

@KingAmadeus, I scared. I hear guild is going to run BEARBOW ZERG. I sorry, no water or dodge rolls for me I too terrified. I going to ESO. #FeartheBear.

Entire T2 guild zerg just Bearbow, 25 ranger, all bear, all time.

I am sick of all siege pretty much, but yeah ACs and even trebs. (All siege does) But especially these two IMO discourage actual fighting, and encourage turtling up and running when things are not looking good.

I think a lot of people are willing to sacrifice the polish, look, and combat system (of Gw2) for the type of open world pvp they are looking for in ESO. I guess it just matters on whether they stick or not.

I know many people I have talked to are waiting to see if it goes F2P/B2P.

They are really the only trait most roamers have any use for…I know a few people that put some points in ram mastery for that off-time you actually take a tower…I have yet to put any trait points in anything else besides guard stacks.

Most roamers avoid siege like a plague (most), so siege traits are pretty worthless to us.

Jaxs.5830:

King Amadaeus.8619:

ANET have stated several times they would be dead against it, because it would cause griefing…

IE groups telling the random pug casuals to “get away you are giving us the debuff”, which goes against the casual non-combative nature of this game.

Rally system already creates this effect and ANET doesn’t seem inclined to fix that.

Because they feel like the rally system is “an innovative” and key aspect of the game.

Two support guards in a 5 man is cheesy as kitten.

Arius.7031:

King Amadaeus.8619:

Arius.7031:

But you said it’s a toss up as to who is more zergy, Dh or SF. Thus it’s kind of weird that you’d say you’re not interesting in having a discussion about who is more zergy…

Yes, it is pretty straightforward really…You made a wildly subjective comment, I made another subjective (though IMO much more believable) comment in reply…Does not call for a discussion, because it is based largely on subjective viewpoints.

People can’t even agree on how many people were in whatever zvz fight on a given night with screenshots provided….There is no way to think we could hash out which server is “the king of zergs”…Which speaks to why I made my original comment/reply in the first place.

It was a silly thing for you to say given the server you sit on, regardless of your level of play or your friends, and it smacked of hypocrisy (again subjective on my part I know). If you were on the lowest pop server and said ____ server is the king of zergy servers, then it would hold a bit more merit, but would still have a high probability of being subjective.

In the end, my point was it would be silly for BG to argue that JQ zergs more, just as it would for SF and DH to argue it….It is apparent both sets of examples have many more participants than their neighboring (lower)tiered counterparts, so to attempt to put an accurate measure on it through discussion would be moot.

Shut up and let me eat my hot pocket.

Also, new thread about server reputations, Dh hasn’t even been mentioned, SF has been mentioned twice as a ganking/zergy server (three times now that I joined it >:D). Fun facts.

Yep mentioned in large part by people from FC that are kitten their PPTing tryhardness isn’t working in their current match, nor are their karma training oceanics they picked up….

Also I have seen 2-3 post today from people ON FC, complaining about their server turning into PUG zergs and PPT crying in map chat.

In case you missed it, I said that one server arguing another is “zergy” or who is more “zergy” is kittened.

It won’t be long now, just like several of us warned several times, ANET only has to worry when people stop complaining….I see less and less complaining these days, and more of the “what the hell happened here” posts…..

The time is now to make some massive improvements, and none of those have to do with Living Story. (I personally would focus on balancing matches – Less coverage wars and making it less viable to just ball up with 80 people and zerg everything down) WvW is your end game, Living Story is something we do for money/skins.

TESO will be great for ANET because it might give them the competition they have lacked thus far.

Assassin X.8573:

TL:DR

Did the colonies complain that the British were zerging when they fought the revolutionary war? Minute men rocked the kitten out of the Brits with guerrilla warfare.
The crippling tactics of the small group was a huge factor in the war.

WvW is working as intended.

/thread

Did the Minute men have an AoE cap?

urieldhynne.2743:

lordkrall.7241:

TESO is new and exiting (and free at the moment). Of course they will have many people playing right now. But what about 1,5 years after release? Will it still be as awesome and full of people?

TESO will be face the same destiny that GW2, the two games has BIG design issues in their core mechanics. Both try to implement new things… both fail. Sadly GW2 is going down right now to the end. And is not because new games where released. WoW faced a lot of new game in his lifetime, beat them all only with expansion without changing to much the essence of the game, and that is because they have a good core mechanic, always fun to play with.

I agree mostly with this sentiment, TESO will however have the benefit of a year or 1.5yr run of having somewhat of a player-base (somethhing that is dying out of WvW in Gw2 right now) simply because they will get the benefit of the “new game” doubt.

That is until they prove to have the same problems GW2 does now, or until the next big RvR release comes out.

CU will probably be the one most people are secretly waiting on…It will also be the least likely to be released/get made (the way it is looking lol) and will never likely be able to live up to the expectations that will be put on it by then.

SFShinigami.2015:

B
Mag is the official bluster server. They talk a lot of crap for the sake of talking a lot of crap, they’re good at it, they have fun but its harmless. Their guilds can definitely hold their own but theres been instances where they send people to other servers to get a look at their builds to perhaps take something from it. They are also the most fervent anti-blob server, though you can catch them blobbing every so often. They’re also extremely pompous.

UR a pompom.

Mag is the zergiest server, we have 2-3 tags running, we PPT like its our next breath and we hate to fight in the open field.

Arius.7031:

But you said it’s a toss up as to who is more zergy, Dh or SF. Thus it’s kind of weird that you’d say you’re not interesting in having a discussion about who is more zergy…

Yes, it is pretty straightforward really…You made a wildly subjective comment, I made another subjective (though IMO much more believable) comment in reply…Does not call for a discussion, because it is based largely on subjective viewpoints.

People can’t even agree on how many people were in whatever zvz fight on a given night with screenshots provided….There is no way to think we could hash out which server is “the king of zergs”…Which speaks to why I made my original comment/reply in the first place.

It was a silly thing for you to say given the server you sit on, regardless of your level of play or your friends, and it smacked of hypocrisy (again subjective on my part I know). If you were on the lowest pop server and said ____ server is the king of zergy servers, then it would hold a bit more merit, but would still have a high probability of being subjective.

In the end, my point was it would be silly for BG to argue that JQ zergs more, just as it would for SF and DH to argue it….It is apparent both sets of examples have many more participants than their neighboring (lower)tiered counterparts, so to attempt to put an accurate measure on it through discussion would be moot.

Keep reading then friend, and we will sell you on the benefits of SF/DH knowledge to further contribute to a useless thread.

But does about SoR?

Dhampyr.2104:

This thread is about SoR. Not entirely sure how this DH/SF debate got started, but how ’bout you guys start a new thread?

Or you could go back to RPing.

Marsares.2053:

King Amadaeus.8619:

MvM is what the latino world calls WvW I think.

Nope, the Australians call it that… everything is upside down there, remember?

Suxen.8574:

OK, i am from Spain, i am playing in Baruch Bay Server and I speak English poorly.

Concerning doubts:

. yes, MvM = WvW

“The more you know.”

Also this to support my above statements:

Arius.7031:

Dh – Very zergy with a pug zerg speciality. We have very few guilds, we rely on pugs for everything. Strongest coverage in all of bronze by far. Mediocre prime time. TERRIBAD on reset, TERRIBAD. Gets relatively stronger as the week progresses in general. Dh is a server of extremes, extremely bad in general but with some extremely good groups (large scale FIN, small scale XSV, JPGN, ANBU, MATE etc…).

Junkpile.7439:

King Amadaeus.8619:

EoTM…I have entered that map 20 times and 20 times it was awful…Must be a EU thing…Last few times I went in EoTM it was completely dead (think bloodlust dead).

Well we like to fight you like PPT.

I lol’d…obviously we don’t have to have new maps to find fights….

Source: someone who makes fun of T1 ppt’ers like you. (“little blackgate”)

Arius.7031:

King Amadaeus.8619:

Arius.7031:

King Amadaeus.8619:

Arius.7031:

UndeadCorp.2198:

Arius.7031:

UndeadCorp.2198:

My server has 20-30 people. On a good day we have 40-50. For all our maps. On our non-coverage hours we number 10-20 or less. NSP. Yet we can fight 60-70 zerg armies, 100+ map combined. We use TS. We encourage players to come in to assist. We tag up when there are no leaders, so main commanders do not become burned out, and in the process, some new commanders emerge, like me. And we are often outnumbered, but we are USED to it. That means we can fight as a cohesive group. We have blobs sometimes, but we tell the blob what to do. Each member has a special tactic they can do, and use their class well. We have strike teams that peel off to take camps. We have diversion teams who tap waypoints. We have pride. NSP pride.

That’s not even remotely close to true… Your server, I have witnessed, field 2-3 zergs of 30-40 each (easily). OS and Zos will together, alone, easily build a 40 man zerg, and then you have your super dominant (for our tier) eb zerg of around that size as well (bare minimum). This is the reality I faced against you every night during primetime. You’re a very zergy server. Dh is too, but we don’t hide from that fact.

We have outnumbered very often when we were versing you guys :o But yes Zergs exist Guess we are on diff times XD
And plus you beat us for 5 weeks, then we beat you for 2 >:3 so it’s all fine and dandy

Hey I fully admit Dh is a zergy server… nsp is too though, that’s my point. I have no problem with zergs, just people who pretend they aren’t what they are.

Edit: Just as a sample of what I’m talking about, we consistently had outnumbered in our home bl every single reset from NSP. Only other server in all of bronze that could do that to us was SF (as a reminder, they’re considered the biggest zergball in bronze).

Actually that is a tossup between SF and DH.

No, it’s really not lol. You’re not in SF anymore, how do you know? I directly ask people from FC (have many friends from it) and they all say SF is zergier by a country mile.

Played on SF Saturday night, and no SF is no more zergy than DH from what I saw the last SF/DH matchup a few weeks back. 10 of us spawn camped FC on EB while pugmander capped their keep.

I wouldn’t trust much that FC has to say tbh, when they beat SF in scoreboard wars its “where’s the zerg nao hahaha” when they lose its “WTF STAHP ZERGING”….Also FC ran some of the biggest map zergs I have seen (short of SF and DH)…Granted it was pretty much their whole pop blobbed into one ball, but still zergy nonetheless.

The difference would be between how we use our population. Even if Dh had equal pop to SF during prime time (which we don’t, not even close), we use many smaller groups. Take our guilds as an analogy. You have CoSA, we have fin/voc. Fin/voc may be nearly as large as CoSA when put together, but CoSA is twice is big as either on their own. We may have roughly the same pop, maybe more when you consider our coverage. But that doesn’t mean we’re as zergy as you.

I am not having this kittened conversation with you, SF admits to zerging, if DH wants to act like they run around in skill groups: whatevs brah. Just remember things are a lot more clear from the other side of the fence….IE: I have farmed enough of your uplevel pugs in the mass of Map Zergs you have to know better.

SF runs a few skill groups themselves, but most people wouldn’t argue they don’t do their fair share of Pug zerging..Apparently I have touched a nerve with the DH zerging thing..How would you feel if I called you out on the continuous PVdooring that gets done every NA morning on your server lol??? The CoSA thing is played out, Cosa is Cosa because people like them and they are generally good folks that don’t turn away anyone that wants to run with them.

TBH DH was always the one server SF claimed was full of Pug zerglings…something that SF has been routinely accused of…So really its just an argument of “who does it more” and it’s one I care nothing about continuing.

Tl/Dr: Just because you or a few of your buds think you are roamers/skillgroups now on DH does not change the fact that the majority of your servermates are mindless zerglings.

1. Hammer/GS Warrior
2. Power Mes
3. D/D ele
4. Thief
5. Med Guard (or alternate: Engi etc)

That is what a group I used to run with had a lot of success with.

MvM is what the latino world calls WvW I think.

EoTM…I have entered that map 20 times and 20 times it was awful…Must be a EU thing…Last few times I went in EoTM it was completely dead (think bloodlust dead).

It is only bugged if you care about it.

Chris.3290:

Honest question, I’m sure there are occasional blips thanks to RNG, but wouldn’t it make sense that if you are in a T6 matchup you are getting pretty much even fights?
I have no idea what kind of numbers you typically see in that tier, but say there is on the home borderland 2 guilds with ~15 people following tags and about 10 or more roaming or jerking around; wouldn’t you typically see that from the enemy as well? Especially since with the lack of organized numbers, wouldn’t you be pretty stable in your home BL?

I would think that with the right organization and cooperation between your active players; that you could still make a pretty good go of it and have some satisfying fights at the lower tiers if people worked together.

Is it really that difficult to straighten out?

One of the biggest differences between upper and lower tiers is the fairweather effect. It is felt by both sides of the fence, no argument there, but the fairweathers on lower tiers “make or break” matchups.

If you can break the fairweathers, you can break the larger servers (on lower tiers) and the population dropoff is noticeable and very sharp.

The same can be said about upper tiers, surely enough, but the biggest difference is that there are more organized WvW guilds/pugmanders/etc that will show up rain or shine. Same can be said in lower tiers, but the sheer numbers between the two are what make the difference.

So you can have some slight variance that affects population (PVE/Holidays) and it drastically affects scores in lower tiers by 100k+, while upper tiers it might just be the difference between winning or losing by 30k.

Arius.7031:

King Amadaeus.8619:

Arius.7031:

UndeadCorp.2198:

Arius.7031:

UndeadCorp.2198:

My server has 20-30 people. On a good day we have 40-50. For all our maps. On our non-coverage hours we number 10-20 or less. NSP. Yet we can fight 60-70 zerg armies, 100+ map combined. We use TS. We encourage players to come in to assist. We tag up when there are no leaders, so main commanders do not become burned out, and in the process, some new commanders emerge, like me. And we are often outnumbered, but we are USED to it. That means we can fight as a cohesive group. We have blobs sometimes, but we tell the blob what to do. Each member has a special tactic they can do, and use their class well. We have strike teams that peel off to take camps. We have diversion teams who tap waypoints. We have pride. NSP pride.

That’s not even remotely close to true… Your server, I have witnessed, field 2-3 zergs of 30-40 each (easily). OS and Zos will together, alone, easily build a 40 man zerg, and then you have your super dominant (for our tier) eb zerg of around that size as well (bare minimum). This is the reality I faced against you every night during primetime. You’re a very zergy server. Dh is too, but we don’t hide from that fact.

We have outnumbered very often when we were versing you guys :o But yes Zergs exist Guess we are on diff times XD
And plus you beat us for 5 weeks, then we beat you for 2 >:3 so it’s all fine and dandy

Hey I fully admit Dh is a zergy server… nsp is too though, that’s my point. I have no problem with zergs, just people who pretend they aren’t what they are.

Edit: Just as a sample of what I’m talking about, we consistently had outnumbered in our home bl every single reset from NSP. Only other server in all of bronze that could do that to us was SF (as a reminder, they’re considered the biggest zergball in bronze).

Actually that is a tossup between SF and DH.

No, it’s really not lol. You’re not in SF anymore, how do you know? I directly ask people from FC (have many friends from it) and they all say SF is zergier by a country mile.

Played on SF Saturday night, and no SF is no more zergy than DH from what I saw the last SF/DH matchup a few weeks back. 10 of us spawn camped FC on EB while pugmander capped their keep.

I wouldn’t trust much that FC has to say tbh, when they beat SF in scoreboard wars its “where’s the zerg nao hahaha” when they lose its “WTF STAHP ZERGING”….Also FC ran some of the biggest map zergs I have seen (short of SF and DH)…Granted it was pretty much their whole pop blobbed into one ball, but still zergy nonetheless.

Arius.7031:

UndeadCorp.2198:

Arius.7031:

UndeadCorp.2198:

My server has 20-30 people. On a good day we have 40-50. For all our maps. On our non-coverage hours we number 10-20 or less. NSP. Yet we can fight 60-70 zerg armies, 100+ map combined. We use TS. We encourage players to come in to assist. We tag up when there are no leaders, so main commanders do not become burned out, and in the process, some new commanders emerge, like me. And we are often outnumbered, but we are USED to it. That means we can fight as a cohesive group. We have blobs sometimes, but we tell the blob what to do. Each member has a special tactic they can do, and use their class well. We have strike teams that peel off to take camps. We have diversion teams who tap waypoints. We have pride. NSP pride.

That’s not even remotely close to true… Your server, I have witnessed, field 2-3 zergs of 30-40 each (easily). OS and Zos will together, alone, easily build a 40 man zerg, and then you have your super dominant (for our tier) eb zerg of around that size as well (bare minimum). This is the reality I faced against you every night during primetime. You’re a very zergy server. Dh is too, but we don’t hide from that fact.

We have outnumbered very often when we were versing you guys :o But yes Zergs exist Guess we are on diff times XD
And plus you beat us for 5 weeks, then we beat you for 2 >:3 so it’s all fine and dandy

Hey I fully admit Dh is a zergy server… nsp is too though, that’s my point. I have no problem with zergs, just people who pretend they aren’t what they are.

Edit: Just as a sample of what I’m talking about, we consistently had outnumbered in our home bl every single reset from NSP. Only other server in all of bronze that could do that to us was SF (as a reminder, they’re considered the biggest zergball in bronze).

Actually that is a tossup between SF and DH.

I try more dodge roll this weekend, I trait for vigor and use vigor foods. still only get 2-dodge rolls then nothing…I dodge roll once fighting Wolfbow, wolf fear me before I can get second roll…Now I stuck running, terror, no skill work all circling like clock.

Ranger using arrows constantly not even have to move….Then call Hyena, Hyena knock me down then summon another…Then I guess after I die, I come back and I guess ranger call ranger friend over for “free kill”.

Now two ranger, first switched to dreaded bearbow/wolfbow…Second ranger have freaking small bird…Crow or something…I cant even see bird, it fluttering around my head like herd of gnats…I try to hit bird not even sure where bird is….Then ranger somehow summon whole flock of birds that land on my head…

My poor character find get birds knocked off, first ranger been /laughing whole time….Now he send wolf at me, scare me again…No skills, bird pecking eyes, wolf howling both rangers fling arrows, much relentless….

No hope for game, I no go in water anymore for fear of bear might be there if ranger is chasing…Least that is fix.

Expiatus.4210:

BEAR ATTACK! FEAR IT!

Please no more

Ikaros.7812:

worst is when bear invite you to party and call you names, i try report but doesn’t work on pet?? please fix this

Please say its joke?! I do not want Bear whisper, I am already thinking of going back to Runescape, too much terror, so much dispair with ranger pet…

4 minutes…hope there was RI involved.

Offair.2563:

Cantur Soulfyre.5409:

Offair.2563:

ghost.3208:

Offair.2563:

Q: how to deal with rangers pets.

A: keep running around ignore the pet and stress out on ranger throwing everything to his/her face, ranger dead, pet dead, 2 birds ( or bears ) 1 stone story.

If you fail to do that, its not the pet being OP but the player being to stupid to anticipate on very telegraphed skills such as wolfs howl or murrelows poison

Go check on Rangers subforum CDI and read how many people say pet’s AI is broken which is true yet some people come here and complain about it. Maybe the ranger will own u in 1v1 or in small scale fights but any class can do the same.

This is clearly a Learn2Play, heck Learn2Anticipate and not an Overpowered issue

Alright but, can you like make a video of this tactic? Because ever since yesterday everyone has been saying the same advice and so far I haven’t seen much progress.

Teach me how can you beat those bears? I even went underwater to escape from the ranger and his bears but they can go underwater too. I really don’t understand how constantly moving helps if you get CC’ed to the max.

Bears dont CC, all their attacks are melee based so if u move around the pet will do its animation but your out of range already, just keep running around and aim for the ranger, not the pet.

A few pets can do cc from range but most are used by the F2 function but it often doesnt work or go on CD without doing anything.

I HAVE TRIED THIS AND IT DOESNT WORK!!! I run around all day and since I can’t get into range to attack the ranger the OP bear ends up killing me!! Please, like someone asked, upload video of your tactics against the OP bearbow!! I can hardly get out of my spawn before I get OP beared to death!

What class/build do you run that keeps on getting ganked by a pet, full zerger?
Would like to ask you to upload a video how u deal with the pets, I can uploads one myself but its nothing but people ignoring my pet and running into me with stability/regen/condi removals/dodge/stun/cc and perhaps some stealth here and there

Problem is not the pet, but the people that cant be bothered ignoring it

Guess those whining about it have read up to much smacktalk on forums how aful rangers are and when they see one they think “oh ranger easypeasy 100% guaranteed kill” but then the ranger kills em and they come to this forum QQ pets OP QQ

I run all class, all build full zerk, I am cannon of glass. I should merk Ranger, but Pet continually harass, I just glad pet not real and can’t send me whisper like enemy ranger do.

“Hey kid UBAD my bear feast on your corpse”.

then /dance on my body while Bear tower over.

souless.1935:

your small man team draw 20-30 because SF doesnt know what else to do but zerg.

Make them stop zerging then???

People will only get away with what you let them, seeing people complain about zerging just means your server sucks the big one enough that it won’t stop them from zerging….

Short of CoSA, no other guilds really field enough to make a Guild Zerg, so in fact you are most likely QQing about a PUG ZERG….If your guild/server can’t stop a pug zerg, well then enjoy T8 friend.

bever.5892:

Show how op ranger and ranger’s pets are #nerfplz

See how we supposed to contend with that? You tell me, ranger OP, pet OP, ranger go in water, pet go water….Bear running around like fat nightmare beast show teeth, wolf inflict terror make me run away…Even character too scared to fight ranger…

Meanwhile ranger emote, /laugh /dance/ /no on me…Sitting longest range, firing arrow volley at me rapid fire, so much dmg….

You tell me, if greatest player of game ranger, and ranger have pet, how pet not greatest thing in game?!

Sardonia.8196:

King Amadaeus.8619:

No one ever say how bear in water, Nornbearman not go in water I notice….

Bears are very use to being in water. They have to go eat the fish all the time. Not sure how though they can hold their breath that long when below the water. Must store all that oxygen in their fluffy fur

I know what bear is, bear fat and lazy try to eat campers food. Bear might try to fish, but bear no swim in deep water for 5-10 minutes. Bear sits on lazy rump scoops trout out of rivers.

When nornbearman go to water he turn back into fat norn ranger guy. I think bear should turn into manatee. No one scared of manatee. Manatee prob hold breath longer too, also one other thing shake it off is shout, talking bear much terror enough, but HOW BEAR SHOUT UNDERWATER HOLDING BREATH?!

Roamers and small groups have been transferring upwards in tier for the last 6 months and will likely continue to do so.

Most share the same reason (with some slight variation), mine was the same, basically the lower tiers are turning into empty wastelands where 2hrs of roaming netted you seeing on average 1-2 roamers/20 random zerglings trying to get back to their pin/and the map zerg.

Beyond all of that, the maps were getting so empty that our 5 man team on SF was drawing 20-30 people just by taking camps because those people have nothing else to do.

Choke point would be awesome if not for AC’s, AC’s ruin lots of strategic points in this game by dumbing everything down.