Guild Wars 2

Wamgor.9347:

lol I miss our very respectful german oppenents Riverside and Kodash…

So much kitten being thrown around from the new boys on the block Gandara its unreal.

Been reading the thread? I also see a lot of Piken mudslinging and QQ’ing about Christmas. Works both ways.

Wamgor.9347:

Can’t wait for All our WvW guilds to come back then it will be on even still with your population advantage which is fine by me… Not sure when my guild will be starting back up properly or if i will go above and beyond like usual… But Gandara we have already focussed AR in the past ALOT, and alliance or not… with all your kitten throwing and “advantages” dont be surprised you will more likely be targeted more than AR next week if i have anything to say about it…

You mad bro? You sound like your mad over this whole Christmas capping fiasco and the fact that we have more people…

Wamgor.9347:

I know what AR are all about already… they have a very good spirit, I want to see what gandara are made of besides QQ throw kitten here… I forget how these forums tend to go, but I guess when fighting Riverside and Kodash they have more awareness and respect.

On the topic of respect maybe you should try talking to others of your server before they ‘mudsling’ about Christmas capping and belittle us for playing during our primetime during a holiday.
On top of that, I want to see what Piken is made of also, without all of YOUR QQ’ing and such. (Which might I add, is quite a lot.(And yes so is Gandaras))

So much QQ and little understanding from Gandara… makes me a sad panda

See above.

Wamgor.9347:

Do you really think the server your fighting now is the same med pop server that got to T3? Maybe some of your more aware players might know the difference… If you have more people to come back thats cool… Next Week still might be too soon for some of our guilds to come back… but you will be in for rude awakening when they do and that is a guarentee

No we realise that’s not why your T3. Yes we also realise you will probably trash us at full strength. No we don’t care. Most of us realise we’re not ready for any tier above mid 4/high 5 stop acting like we’re trying to be the cool kids when we’re not.

On the Christmas capping ‘issue’:

carnivorum.5038:

As Harm stated in the corresponding topic in the open part of our forum, its more about commanders not leading attacks against each other. So the (dis)honor is all about the guys who agreed to focus Gandara. Whoever starts a fight against “ally” (not being the one of the involved commanders) – there’s nothing bad about it. And if something is painfully lost – dont sleep on your watch lol.

Christmas might be a holiday, but if I so wish to spend it in WvW, then I will spend it in WvW. Personally, I did none of this Christmas capping I was levelling my alt. But to all 3 servers about ALL christmas capping… Man up, fight harder.

Saint Scarlet.2906:

There was an agreement between 3 commanders on each server that while they were on they wouldn’t attack each other. Now while the majority of Piken might have disagreed with this, we respect each other on the server so wouldn’t do anything to dishonour another commanders word. Yes one of our worst commanders then took it on himself with randoms(coz even his own guild wouldn’t betray the rest of Piken) to attack AR and end our gentlemans agreement. It doesn’t matter in the end, it was a valid tactic to join forces for a while as both us and AR are down on numbers by 2/3rds whereas Gandara PvDoored their way into top spot when we had virtually no-one on. All this agreement was doing was to balance out the score again to what it was before ungentlemanly(although a valid tactic) night cap when we were all celebrating Xmas.

Ya see here, in this quote you keep going on about how Gandara PvDoor’d our way up to the top yardy yardy yar and all that buuuuttttt… Did you also know that we also had only 2/3 of forces? Yep that’s right. Sure our 2/3 is bigger than Piken’s 2/3 but still.

On top of that you also state that your 2/3 came back to take top spot… Yep, in a day in which Gandara had maybe 25 people on it’s own Borderlands and maybe another 25 on EB. And that was Prime time. Commander? We had 1 I think, Pretty much all day. See, what I am getting at is not to belittle your achievements but to point out that in your quote your making your server out as this hard done by server which is fighting against the tyrannical empire. This is not the case, you guys also PvDoor’d, except on the 25th…

It’s all valid though, I’m not complaining merely pointing out that the portrayal of what has happened is slightly off.

Now on the issue of this… ‘Alliance’

Wasn’t that the idea with 3 servers, 2 lowest take on the top and such? When I heard of this ‘alliance’ all I could think of was “Ooo target rich environment!” Gandara, I beseech you, think the same!

Cruswald.9061:

Hello from Augury Rock,

Wish you all good fights for this week.
I was wondering : will we have a truce on Christmas like civilized people or not ?

We’ll all meet up in EB, share a section of SM each and each server shall take one third of the Grubs health down to show our Christmas spirit!

An old and a new foe, hopefully we’re not ruined by Christmas this match up! Best of luck to you all =)

Well Riverside you kept asking for a fight, I hope you enjoyed EB this evening/morning

I was the one leading the Havoc squad behind your lines for 1 and a half hours straight =)

A call out to the squad with me then because that was awesome, Also epic work by Torty yelling at everyone, Esyari for your ninja contesting, Eno for putting up with Torty and leading the main attack Twas a hell of a fight!

snarkankle.7530:

Scotty beam me to Etheron Hills!
Or what else could be the reason why the gandara enemy is in the middle at Ertheron Hills?

After seeing what seems to be an exploit as I don’t believe we as Gandara ever breached the inner Hills today?, I did attempt to ask one of their members to tell their guild not exploit and such as they represent Gandara as a whole but they blocked me.

With that said I hope you realise that much like every other servers, 99% of Gandara does not agree with such actions.

Dominate may be a slight exaggeration but it felt good to get back at Riverside in their own borderlands as this week you have been spending more time in ours than your own :P

Had massive amounts of fun trolling the north supply camp with a trebuchet and three rams on the well and such. We felt like having a chill out session after all the hard work

Azunai.1065:

gabal.4520:

They aren’t double-teaming, they are just taking opportunity to more easily capture an objective while we are busy with other server. We do it as well when we can…

^this on RS borderlands today
MS attacking hills and gandara always charging in our back :P
even thou that on RS borderlands it would be way more effective to attack the BL owner

We tried telling them not to, we really did :P

Riverside still bringing the hurt. Been fun fighting you guys some more, same with Millers, the fights today on Gandy Borderlands have been intense.

@Riselight, I wouldn’t say they’re double teaming in fact I have seen them fight each other quite a bit. On our own Borderlands they will attack us mainly because it is beneficial for them to do so. Millers wants second place, Riverside wants us to stay away.

I agree Lavra. Had fun slaying both servers at some point and watching the you guys slay each other

Riverside… you guys are brutal. Had fun fighting you guys at Askalion Hills in Gandara Borderlands tonight! Special call out to [dw] and [ZORN] for making it extra difficult for us ;P.

Also [Bots] from Millers Sound, even out manned you were packing heat, also had fun fighting you guys =)

Fishbait.6723:

It should be activated when there is some huge gap between scores.
Say 25k (miniscule) or 50k+

Letting this start when they can have as little as 800 points (that`s what we got hit by) or even possibly one point, is just stupid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VxbzFcV5r0

Be a while until NPC Wars 2 is uploaded.
I`m downloading Aion again at same time lol

Edit: Just had a thought (ouch)
Costs of upgrades, are these being lowered or removed?
Players pay for these to protect places from other players, not OP guards etc

Only thing I got from that video is that you couldn’t solo a champion and you had a massive lack of defenders?

So it begins. New tier for Gandara, highest we’ve been since 24 hour matchups. I bid you all a fun match and let rivalries, chest thumping and Ego’s riot upon this thread within the boundaries of the forums rules ;D!!

Did Am have fun with Dius up in Godsword? Sorry we went out of our way just to annoy the abnormally large group of people you had up there

SaruTen.9531:

Augury Rock is first, 10k in your face, life is good, join us!

You were saying Bro?

I dunno… I flip out sometimes when some guy kills my pet Owl ‘Hooters’ in WvW….

Starfall.6425:

I just knew it.. withing just one day we got the nice and totally proved conclusions…

“AM is protecting [PRO]”
“Army is spying for [PRO]”

With this I’m out of here… because it makes absolutely no sense to stay. We told you repeatet times we are sorry, we don’t support hacks, we will report if we see them etc.
But you don’t care… you are so poor, want sympatchy but blame it on more and more people of our server. Gl&hf

No one said any of the sort. One person asked whether that was the case and that was about it. We’re not directing this at AM as a whole, in fact we were looking forward to fighting you guys yet again. Countless times people have said that we don’t blame your server as a whole.

On the spying subject. It happens no one can deny it. Secondly I didn’t state that he was 100% for sure to be that, what I can be 100% sure of though is that there WAS two at least members of one of AM’s (largest?) guilds. Hell he could just be map completing or scoping out a new server to join, fair enough. But we have to suspect ‘spying’ when we see an enemy servers members on the map.

egalon.1702:

Guys, really.
Stop this flaming about our server, this is only one guild, who no one of us ever have seen. And i asked a lot people. Where looking for them, but if you guys see them, why you dont make a video? Or a screenshot.

KinkyWarrior.1879:

[Army] Why are you on our server? Hopping? World completion or playing dirty?

Hm yes, thanks for the information. The guy will be kicked tomorrow.
Egalon

Gladariel, or something like that there was more…

[Army] Why are you on our server? Hopping? World completion or playing dirty?

Starfall.6425:

NJW.1394:

To add another hack to the list Gandara (us) was just attacking a garrison owned by Augury Rock and i assume AR but could have been AM had a guy actually inside the terrain of the water gate cliff and was using the mesmer AOE pull to knock us all off the cliff and wipe.

Couldnt attack him or target him and could only just see his name poking up through the ground.

now you are getting a little bit paranoid… hack because a mesmer used his pull?
If I understand right the guy was inside the wall? You know how often I got stuck inside a wall, stone etc? Not everything is a hack.. I also bet half of the “cheated inside a keep” is just a Mesmer who waited for over 15min.

The keeps and towers that I know off thus far ( being yesterday mainly ) have all been in our possession for hours… many many hours.

I spent the whole night screwing up AR borders. Conspiracies now? coincidental working together is it now :P? And Yes I get great joy at beating AM up, much like last night when I led the assault on your garrison and your North towers. The reason I do it? Mainly because when I command it’s with my guild now and we go to the most needed borderlands which is always yours OR Augury’s. Saturday was Augury’s, Sunday was yours, today was Augury’s. It’s only so coincidental because each time one server makes a push against the other, the third exploits the new found weakness.

Also had fun making Augury bleed trying to take all their stuff back tonight!

zen.6091:

Until it’s removed or something is done to equalize the downed state, I’ll keep using it, and I don’t really care. It’s just plain laughable how bad the engi’s are.

I don’t play like coward that is always tip toeing around backline of a skirmish ready to head for the hills when it looks like a fair fight. I stay and defend camps / towers if they are remotely defensible, again, fully committed to the fight and not ready to hop off the back of the lord room or standing there naked.

To me, all the incentives not to die and play extremely defensively all the time are a way bigger problem than alt f4. That’s not an argument for running around like an idiot all the time charging in, but there are times when players are needed that will grow a pair.

You need do the same and accept the fact you died.

Right I’ll add some of this tomorrow

AM has about as many us, they just tend to come in the form of the large guild groups such as Army and Test, meanwhile our forces spread out a bit more.

EDIT: I’m not implying you Zerg so don’t take it that way ._.

In Gandara that doesn’t seem to be the case. For us it seems to be Borders > EB

I might just be blind buuuut I noticed no change. Except when I was told by a guildie screaming down TS to turn around, I could actually see why he was running. :P With that said im on a mid tier so pop levels are quite low compared to higher end.

[KCDQ] Dius wants word with your commander… Seriously the amount of times he suicide charged into our group for no reason. I applaud his spirit… not his sense :P

In advance, im sorry for double posting. (Character limit)

sireuh.3870:

They would not have evened out, cause the servers were not the same. First, you guys got new big recruits like I said.

No we didn’t. A lot of our primetime forces forced themselves to do all nighters as previously stated. We were always on the same level as you guys in primetime and nothing has changed about that. Neither server can fill all 4 maps.

sireuh.3870:

About zergs, I could say the same, but ask to your mate God, Dius, Fort, Aura, or GF, if BRV fight on zerg. Song could tell the same things to you.
And there is a lot of WvW guilds who roams too on our side, try to roam a little, and you will find them
Silly mistakes are on bothside you know, sometimes I’m really get tired about ours, but I keep fighting

Dius roamed. Raniks died.

sireuh.3870:

@Gabal : show me the link about an alliance between FR and JS, please, I want to see that on my own eyes. By the way, we did not “wiped” the floor against you. Like I said before, but what you are delibaretly ignoring, is that you got many new reinforcements.

As said before no we didnt.

sireuh.3870:

Despite that, in prime, except for Monday where it was hard, we own you.

We’re more on even footing than one owning the other. It makes for awesome fighting.

Your special operation Wednesday was a fail, we own you every other day of the week,

Wenesday was like your monday, was an off day for us. Otherwise the point movement was fluid, I watched it a lot. No one side dominated the other, it was a back and forth between around 240 points to up to around 350 for us both.

sireuh.3870:

@IDarko : Last night, we fought hard at night cause we were sick of your daycapping from monday when you up every structure in T3 for the fights.

Much much much much like Raniks night capping in previous matchups. Dont deny it, after 4 previous fights with you we can see it happens.

sireuh.3870:

We have very few players morning/afternoon, while you guys got Death Star !

Death star is something out of Starwars… otherwise… what are you talking about :P?

sireuh.3870:

But primetime yesterday was a fail for you, we stopped you at Garnison on FR map, and pushed you out. And you were never able to come back again.

Yet we owned the most of that map for a while. I’m sorry but keeping one keep, sure congratulations but it isn’t a fail if we got more for what we did then you for what you did.

sireuh.3870:

By the way, it’s fun you think your hard work it’s done for nothing cause of nightcapping, while your daycapping was just HUGE, but then you’re happy your nightcapping manage to put you ahead…

A) Day capping? In the previous 4 matchups thats normally been a period where we slowly push you off of our maps.

B) Nightcapping? As stated a few times before, our night squad never grew as such, more that we just had our primetimers pulling all nighters.

sireuh.3870:

One last thing : Our night team got several lags / game problem last night with the update, and today is an off day for most of your players. In France, it is not.

That is annoying for you guys I agree But Friday isn’t an ‘off’ day for gandara, in Britain it’s a normal day which makes for about 60-70% of our players. You simply just explained this to me

On the note about us our numbering you? It’s strange we get the same reports…

sireuh.3870:

Hi everyone, I’m from Fort Ranik, BRV tag.

First, I would like to say one word about zerg. Gandara, you guys got to be kidding me… You got the biggest zerg I never seen this match, except Bay of Barush. Maybe we’re not on the same map, but guys, each time we crush the bones of one of you, there’s still 2 guys just behind.

Our zerg collates normally while performing a defensive. Also every server has zergs due to the way that commander symbols are basically moth lamps. :P

sireuh.3870:

Each time we encounter you, you got additionnal mercenaries, and each time we put you down. Coex, SN, CM, etc… You guys always got reinforcements, while we got nothing.

Thats because they’re guilds, those reinforcements come from other places, not EXACTLY zerging but it can give the impression. But then I have fought cases where FR just doesn’t stop coming.

sireuh.3870:

Then, let’s told about the beginning of the week, where we were facing 2 servers on each side. Let’s talking about Gandara we let FS map without harm, and same for FS on Gandara map.
Finally, Tuesday, Gandara got the balls to fight some FS, and without the pressure of 2 servers, we were able to take back our advantage.

We never had an alliance against Far Shiverpeaks but it was obvious you guys were the bigger threat. Not sure about other commanders but when I was commanding, it was always Ranik problems first then Shiverpeaks, it was a tactical decision which seems to have paid off.

sireuh.3870:

Are you talking about the FR / JS / Gandara match ? Cause if it’s true, you guys have to know that we focus more JS than you, we even made a retribution evening on them cause they were always attacking us at our spawn. French prefer to made war between them, this gives more fun on the forums even it is stupid.

A server alliance between you guys? No. A guild alliance at least? Im highly suspicious. Why? Because in some cases you guys were handing T3 hills keep to Jade Sea only to make sure we didn’t leave our spawn.

So stop talking about things you don’t get, you lost two last match cause we got more people at crucial hours, and now you are winning cause of it too, not because of a crazy alliance.

Our Night squad has only increased at the cost of our Primetime forces. How? Our night squad is a lot of Ly Ann and Kaligula’s work, both SN and SN is a major primetime guild of ours. They are angry, restless and still they fight on during the day. They are testaments to Gandaran will power and we would have lost without their efforts. (SN aren’t the only ones but I know more of them than the others.)[/quote]

sireuh.3870:

We were happy to fight Gandara, we liked your men and your style of fight, but this post are just making me laugh now. Thinking we win because of zerg… Nothing more to say, just count the Coex guys, and we will talk again after that.

We tried, we also don’t know just how many of them there are. But they zerg, the rest of us work around it :P

sireuh.3870:

To the Dius : We really hope to find you again

Likewise.

I replied to your second post below

It is extraordinarily tense for us Gandarans right now. We clawed it back once again now; can we maintain it through the day?

Hmm, personally I have never suffered from this (and yes I am very vocal in /t)

I would have a set by now methinks but I spend all my badges on siege to slay with, as im normally too poor to buy siege with cash ;P

It’s been a monumental effort by Gandara thus far. Everyone is still going strong and willing to take this fight down to the last. Awesome efforts by SN, FRI, DYE, YaK and of course, anyone else who has logged in to fight the Ranik menace this week. As Fysak said though, the war is not yet over and we SHALL keep fighting.

Thank you to far Shiverpeaks and Fort Ranik for the epic fights, it’s been a blast and a half! It’s a shame about DB, I heard it was an Epic fight but I never made it until the very end in an attempt to assist after beating the FR borders up a bit. It was an amazing defence by the guys there which allowed the Gandaran Forces push other maps.

Very nice post indeed!

Mirage.8345:

Mif.3471:

There is a reason there are choke points into the center of SM.
There is a reason that Golems move slowly.
There is a reason you can repair broken walls and doors.

The problem with portal is it circumvents much of the design of WvW.

I’d like to see all these people responding with “L2P” address the above points as they relate to portals please.

1) So we should all charge into the chokehold and get slaughtered hours on end until we eventually get tired/or break through. The portal is just one tactical way of getting past without the endless charge at ballistas.

2) So you can’t kill the golem on the move. Kill it when it’s at the gate when it has no reason to move. Not really ‘OP’ because it can move faster than intended. Although it wouldn’t bother me at all if Golems couldn’t port.

3) To hold enemies out obviously, but if a server went through the effort of breaking in, hiding a mesmer and then porting people in after you left, it is YOUR fault for allowing it. See the Mesmer, call it out, it’s dead. End of your worries to porting in. With out allowing people to port in then when an attack is still ongoing but the outer gate is repaired then the attackers just have another way of keeping a flow of supply/reinforcements in. With removing the ability to port onto/over the wall your basically saying that all sieges should end when the outer gate is repaired, even if the attackers has an large amount of forces inside still.

Johje Holan.4607:

KinkyWarrior.1879:

Johje Holan.4607:

Regarding sweeping for Mesmers – that is part of the problem – at least make the portal not be able to go through walls and intact gates. Nah, scratch that – just get rid of them entirely.

If you can’t take two measley minutes to walk around and thoroughly check the place, quite frankly you deserve to be back door’d by a mesmer.

If you sweep for just two minutes in SM and the Keeps, you will get portal bombed. My point is that one person hiding should not be able to re-take a stronghold like that regardless of if you sweep or not.

But that persons whole ability to portal into keeps is all on the hopes they aren’t seen. When I’m commanding all I say is, Sweep, everyone sweeps. Mesmers are flushed out and portalling isn’t possible. With just a few of you, you can thoroughly sweep every keep and Stonemist in 2 minutes, or 3 tops.

One person doesn’t retake the keep, he simply gets the people to do so in there, which if you sweep, he cannot do.

Johje Holan.4607:

Regarding sweeping for Mesmers – that is part of the problem – at least make the portal not be able to go through walls and intact gates. Nah, scratch that – just get rid of them entirely.

If you can’t take two measley minutes to walk around and thoroughly check the place, quite frankly you deserve to be back door’d by a mesmer.

naphack.9346:

So you wannna use us Drakkars as a measure for portal balance?
Cmon, in terms of being an unorganized mess, there’s not a single server capable of beating us. You guys at Gandara are a totally different level from us and every single fight showed that.
You simply can’t use unorganized karma trains from Drakkar Lake of all servers as a measure for portal balance.

The bombing I’m talking about was clearly somewhat organised as it was performed by the guild group [DSS] or something like that (I’m assuming that most guilds have coordination of at least enough to get their group on to the portal and then target at our siege) and of course the random’s which also follow through. The bombing was quite organised. I also use Drakkars as your the only server I can remember using Bombing as much as you did. Either way, it struck me as a clearly organised bomb and we still stopped it.

Edit: Don’t judge your server so harshly, sometimes AM we’re so un organised it was actually spinning us off a few times

VLNt.9862:

The portal cause important changes in a course of a battle. I personally disagree with the actual function of this skill – the ability to port X players to a certain location. In a wvw battle, advancing through field must be made fighting, not by mass porting.
My solution is to make the ability available just for the mesmer and for the party members – fair enough.

That wouldn’t change anything. It would just mean the organised forces required to perform an effective portal bomb would simply spread out more mesmers.

Example: 20 man guild group, 4 parties, one Mesmer in each. All mesmers drop a portal entrance at exact same spot where everyone is gathered, then proceed to all rotate mass invisibility while running to the desired location, drop an exit in the same location, everyone has a portal to use, portal bomb achieved.

This is just an example and obviously wont be as common as current bombing but it wont remove the problems that you state you have with the Portal. Simply make them ever so slightly harder to achieve.

Diashame.6328:

Totally agree with op. It takes the fun out of w3 in so many different ways. It’s cool if you disagree with the op but your responses have been pathetic to be honest. Especially the ones about skill as it takes zero to do and removes the long and fun battles out of W3 which all of you have failed to comment on.

Some servers go for the win, a long drawn out battle may be detrimental.

Your sever may have the ability to break the enemies at the beginning of the fight but if it ends in a long drawn out battle you may be wiped.

Not every battle ends because of a single portal bomb. (Seriously at a fight with Drakkars last week in hills keep, we were bombed and bombed about 7 times each, we were still fighting nearly 2 hours later.)

The people fighting might hate long drawn battle?

Why does every battle have to be long and drawn out?

Your right on the skill point but then it DOES take organization. It take more skill to stop a bomb so try and see it as an opportunity to show the enemy that your more skilled?

I dunno, but it’s not as game breaking and fun ruining as people are making out.

Portals aren’t as game breaking as people make them out to be. I have used bombs and I have been on the receiving end of bombs. Even when you are portal bombed it’s not the hardest job to defend against (In the assumption that they haven’t been ‘culled out’, which personally doesn’t seem to happen so much now). It might be harder because of the 5 people AoE limit but it’s still not the hardest thing to defend against.

And yes, it is a surprisingly hard work to get randoms to use a Portal bomb, be it that they’re either auto attacking something, missed it in the chat box or simply didn’t care.

Update

- Added NPC Objectives Section
- Added Commanders and Squads Section
- Added Roaming and You! Section
- Added Forums Section

Keep the suggestions coming guys!

Revel.9367:

Have the same concept here:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/players/WvW-Guide/first#post659744

You will find images, upgrade costs, and other info there….

It’s a shame something like got buried I have added it to the Useful Links Section so people can view it from here too.

Curuglas.1847:

Not every one, but every other one. About 1 out of 2 or 3 kills (and yes, sadly I killed only Gandarans, because Drakkars were nowhere to be seen ) did log out in down mode or even a second before… And my point is, that since I have only seen Gandarans do this so far (cannot speak for the other Abbadons’ though, since I don’t see what they do), this casts a bad light on the entire server – at least from my point of view. If this offends you, perhaps you could suggest in your Team chat to those Gandarans who log out, to cease this behavior.

I’m going to use your logic.

A group of 10 Gandarans thereabouts held a supply camp from a large group of Abbadons, maybe 20 with the Abbadons group backing away and actually running in the end. Using your logic, your entire server must therefore be cowards, if you take offence to this I suggest you go and type /team and ask your server to stop running away.

Now that isn’t my view, it happened but it was a group of AM Pugs with the Gandaran group being organised. My point is though if you judge an entire server by every tom, dick and harry you’ll end up with a very skewed view of the server.

Updates
- More in-depth notes about siege under each ‘Pros and Cons’ Section
- Added another post about Superior Siege and Guild Siege and moved Siege placement into that due to the character limit on the Siege Part 1 post.
- Added a recommended Upgrade order.
- Added a Note about taking supply from only Camps

A question for the moderators; I plan on making a few more large posts like the one above but they will be separate from the rest of the guide, in hindsight I would have ‘reserved’ some posts but alas I forgot. Would there be a way for me to post directly below the Current parts of the guide so as it’s all collated into one area or do I just simply ask the moderators to move the posts about?

Planned Additions;
- Superior Siege
- More In-depth information about siege
- Roaming and you!
- Commanders
- Npc Objectives. (Quaggans, Weather Nodes, Ogres, Dredge.)
- Tips Section. <—- Ongoing!
- Guild Buffs
- What to do if your spawn camped! (Under Tips Section)
- The forums, what you will find and where to go!

I’ll add as soon as I can, probably tomorrow evening GMT or Friday at the latest

I stalk these forums frequently and will also add more to the useful links section should they arise.

Yaa, Im in WvW right now actually so I will do it after my guild event is over or tomorrow

Edit: Thanks for the sticky Habib!

Name change to better highlight thread content

You have started a craze SpaceLord!

Raehvyn, would you mind if I added a link to this thread in mine own guides ‘useful Links Section’? I believe this style of guide may suit people who don’t appreciate the style of mine

Scarn.6810:

If I could make a suggestion, you could expand on the basic tricks of siege placement and use. For example, an arrow cart does not need line of sight. You can hide a cart behind a wall or inside a building and as long as you can place your cursor on a spot in range, the cart will hit it. Ballistas, on the other hand, need line of sight and will hit objects obstructing their view.

Ah yes I see what you mean I will also add a section about upgrading your siege equipment.

Guild Claiming and Buffs

When running around World Versus World you will notice that each capture point has a Guild Claimer. This allows you to ‘Claim’ an objective and if done, will mean your guilds emblem shall be on the Flags about the objective. Claiming allows you a guild to use ‘Guild Buffs’ to help with any battles fought in the area. Buffs are activated by a Guild member of respective permissions and are bought using influence in the ‘Art Of War’ Section. Buffs tend to be Stat boosting; e.g. Vitality +40 but also range to things such as Supply carrying +5. These Buffs are great for World Versus World orientated guilds and can swing a defensive to your favour.

-Note:_ It is common etiquette that the guild who claims a keep will upgrade it and has buffs to activate to help defend it. So be wary of claiming, it can cost your guild quite a bit.

Server Bonuses

So you’ve been playing WvW for a while now and you start to think…. why am I doing this? Ultimately the reason is your own. On top of this as your Server gets higher score then the more server wide bonuses you unlock. Things such as extra gathering from nodes or critical successes in crafting. You can find a list of the Bonuses by pressing ‘B’.

The Forums

The forums is an… interesting place. A place of Whine, A place of Help (see links below), and a place of Chest thumping, Rivalry and Boasting! Much like a traditional Norn tavern. On the forums you can normally find information on various topics and help on subjects. The main part of the forums is also made up of Match-up threads. In these threads you can find the three servers talking about their match-up, boasting about who is better and such. It builds a community which leads to tight friendships and deep rivalries between guilds and servers. (The drama is fun too ) Read the Useful Links section below for directions to more specific topics or guide variations. So check the forums out, but be forewarned; it’s not for everyone!

Tips Section

So you have read the guide and your ready to World Versus World! Here are a few tips to help you out! (These are also in some of the Notes sections.)

1) Always face the way you want the siege to face when placing.

2) Always carry supply, always. You never know when you may need to repair or Siege something.

3) Always try to carry around at least one or two blueprints, who knows, it might be your blueprints that conquer an outpost!

4) If people get to close to the edge of a wall and you have a pull skill, you can pull them off. (Otherwise known as ‘Wall Fishing’ )

5) Always read the chat! It’s helpful to know what’s going on.

6) Call incoming forces and the locations of large enemy forces. (See Nidhogg’s WvW communication guide in the Useful Links Section)

7) Experiment with siege placement if the situation permits, you may just find a sweet spot.

8) Use common sense. If your running with an Army to a crisis location, do you honestly need 30+ people to kill that sentry?

9) The Environment is your friend. Take advantage of Choke points and high cliffs.

10) If your being beaten badly and the enemy has loads of siege outside your spawn location, there is three exits, use the alternatives!

11) Revive. Revive. Revive. Revive. Revive. This is not just a game of skill, you MUST keep your numbers up in a fight, especially if it is equal numbers.

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Useful Links Section

Match-up Swap Times
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/WvW-match-rollover-times/first#post859838

The Math Behind WvW
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/The-math-behind-WvW-ratings

The Rankings
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Updated-World-Ratings-Mar-29

Current Match-up scores, EU top, NA Bottom
http://mos.millenium.org/matchups#EU
http://mos.millenium.org/matchups#NA

Nighogg’s WvW communication thread
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/WvW-essentials-Communications/first#post877091

Occam’s Low Level Tips Thread
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Low-Level-WvW-Tips/first#post877152

Raehvyn’s Slightly less mechanical than mine own guide!
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/WvW-s-Guide-For-Newbies/first#post877976

Know Your Supply Routes, Borderlands Edition
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Know-Your-Supply-Routes-Borderland-Edition-1/first#post876612

Revel’s guide. (Contains Costs of Siege and Upgrades)
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/players/WvW-Guide/first#post659744