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As far as I could tell nearly everyone on my server stayed in costume but some got it and some did not.

Looks like it isn’t coming back. That makes me sad.. I thought we’d fight the bloody prince this year.

Ya, a great many people in Ebay said the same thing and everyone is a kitten about it. You just got it wrong kinda garbage. When clearly that isn’kitten What a waste of a time trying to be here for the first round.

Did you really think Anet would actually do anything else? We are stuck with this Mary Sue until Tyria explodes.

Valor Singus.7049:

Why do people think that Scarlet personally found the Obelisk shards? Personally, I would have expected something more along the lines of her handing a bunch of maps to some Aetherblade engineering crews and saying, “Here, there should be some Krait relics at these locations. Make a magic beacon thing, do a grid search, and call me when you find them. Now excuse me, I am late for my daily invasion.”

You mean relics that Krait themselves had issues finding and the bottom of the ocean was their world and the crazy towers till what we assume is bubbles kicked them out? Yet the mystical Scarlet some how knows where they are, how to pull them up from the bottom of the ocean, and in vast quantities.

Ya, that totally makes sense. The random barely even few stinking year old plant magically knew where they were and magically invented the perfect technology to use them. Just happens to have all the right skills for yet another job again.

Boorriiinnnnnnnngggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg

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Astralporing.1957:

Redenaz.8631:

Parlourbeatflex.5970:

They believe other, lesser races have nothing to offer them, so the krait never bother to communicate with them. Never beaten, they are convinced that they are blessed and elevated: the superior species in the world.

The living story explains that whoever is pulling the strings (Scarlet, probably,) found something to offer them: Krait obelisk shards. The Krait might not like working with the Nightmare Court in return for them, but they do have a reasonably explained motive.

You seem to have missed the most relevant part of the post above:

The krait will seize whatever they want for themselves — slaves in particular — with a ruthless efficiency.

Yes, Scarlet might have something that they want. It doesn’t mean they will cooperate – it should only make her their primary target.

I considered that, but Scarlet, assumably, is too smart to put herself in that situation. She might provide a fragment to prove she can provide something of value to the Krait, but she’s not going to make herself unnecessary to the scheme. They can kill her for holding out on them, but one less Sylvari in the world hardly advances the Krait ascendancy. The Krait will take anything that’s in their power to take, but, let’s be honest, the Krait aren’t exactly one of the mightier peoples in Tyria. They’re vicious, mean, and good at picking on quaggan, but we’ve never seen them organize with very impressive strength or numbers.

The fact that they can’t take what they want right now is just another on the long list of reasons the Krait priests would be willing to temporarily compromise their “all Krait, all the time” ideals for a chance to raise their standing compared to other world powers.

You can read their old lore though and they did used to be quite a thing to mess with at the seas. It really is recent with what we assume is bubbles running them out that they’ve lost a nice chunk of this power and also the risen problem.

With the way Anet has handled all the female human armor in the game you really expected anything else other then this? Not sound rude but did you really expect anything else? Hell… have you seen Kasmer’s outfit? She’s blonde, wearing tons of makeup, a noble, thin, has a pink staff, and wears skimpy clothes.

If you roll a human female in this game expect to often look like a kitten out on the town. If you want to wear the cooler male armors you go Charr or Asura like I did.

You really need to look into the meaning of the term Mary Sue if you think this makes a character a Mary Sue. She is a detective and it makes sense for her to have these skills in her line of work. Even more so if people like Logan would come to her for aid. Her character is just fine.

However.. the current sequence her character is in needs some work. The voices are very monotone and not very good this time compared to the last sequence she was in. The Noir sequence was just done well across the board.

Nightmare Court

Faolain and her court are probably the only ones besides the Inquest it actually makes sense for them to speak with and work with Scarlet. As they are willing to ally with others to further the goal of spreading the nightmare and taking over the pale tree in the attempt they see as a way to save their race from the bloody Ventari tablet.

Inquest

As noted above the only other one used so far it makes sense that they’d ally with her because as long as they get something out of it they are happy. They just want power and are willing to do anything to get it. So an alliance between the nightmare court and the inquest would make sense but not so much those others.

None of this even touches on all the other over the top stuff. Such as claiming the Sylvari can’t break free of the nightmare or the pale tree. When there are a great many in the world who side with neither and can’t hear the dream anymore. This is commented on ingame so breaking the mold that doesn’t even exist makes zip sense.

Then there is the Asura a very protective race of their technology. Especially the portal technology they do not want misused or used against them. Yet they let a Sylvari who isn’t even a firstborn into every college and learn all their secrets. Including from what we have seen of Scarlet dimensional portal technology.

Oh.. and the crazy vision she had which some how changed from a normal nut into a super nut. It is implied this power effects the very fabric of their universe and nobody anywhere escapes it. Yet Scarlet just magically finds a way to see it and let it empower her.

Scarlet also magically finds the super rare shards the krait can barely find on the bottom of the ocean it is so rare. The ones they have devoted everything they have into finding and using. Yep…

Then there is the fact as well that every other race is also willing to teach her new things and she magically masters all those things such as some of the Charr technology and Norn blacksmithing.

Scarlet is like a Mary Sue you’d write in class growing up in my opinion because you thought the all powerful perfect god villian was really cool. Then you grow up read what you wrote years later and laugh at how silly you were.

It is just another bad take on the story telling and twisting of what we know of other races or have experienced first hand. Every single so called alliance has been massively underwhelming and mainly because of the reasons behind each one and how it slaughters anything established just so it can make Scarlet work.

Flame Legion

The flame legion want to enslave the rest of the Charr and have no respect for females of any race. They kitten and torture female Charr for kicks and you can even read about it in the game after you finish the flame shaman event. Females of other races are seen as something even lower because flame legion are racist on top of being extremely sexist. The flame legion has also suffered setbacks before always rebuilt even it it took time on their own power. Abaddon with the use of the titans was really the only one who successfully manipulated them. They are also highly protective of their magic as even the priory doesn’t truly understand the older magics gifted to them long ago such as the searing cauldrons.

Yet Scarlet a FEMALE of a race seen as very gullible and naive some how managed to get this race to do what she wanted. She got them to teach the dredge their deepest magical secrets, some how got them to follow a female of another race, got them to rely on another race for power when their goal is to enslave the world. She even directed them to split their attack off taking back leadership of the Charr alone and attack the Norn at the exact same time. It made no sense and went against all you know about the flame legion.

Dredge

A highly xenophobic race that was just betrayed by those they see as surface dwellers that steal all their resources and are out to enslave them like the dwarf’s did so long ago. It was just an inquest betrayal but they see all surface dwellers the same. This was rapidly followed by a split in the dredge leadership that you help with the story in SE. So on top of that the dredge are in the middle of a massive civil war with themselves underground. The communist like leadership is fighting the workers for control of their race.

Yet they are willing to listen once again right after that betrayal and during a civil war to yet another outsider with the promise of power so quickly? The workers revolt is nowhere to be seen during all this as well as if all the progress made in Sorrow’s Embrace meant nothing at all.

If anything the xenophobic nature of the dredge would have been enhanced by those recent events. While she might have been able to get the communist side to listen somewhere to her the parts of it trying to grasp power. It is just highly unlikely with recent events that they would do so and even more unlikely they’d do so with a race that views them as future slaves or something to be burned to ash.

Krait

The history of the krait is one of extreme xenophobic nature. They see every other race as less then dirt and one day hope to commit genocide upon each and every one of them. The very few instances the krait actually bothered to talk to anyone in a dialogue such as the human story was only made so they could try to get what they wanted. They manipulated, used illusions, and lied through their teeth until they were caught. So the only time they’ve bothered to speak to anyone they never did it in a meaningful way. It was just a means to an end with hollow words and after being discovered it was right back into the killing. This is also very very rare according to what we know and highly unusual of them at all for any dialogue offered. Their entire history is one of working alone to wipe out all other races.

The krait operated alone at sea from their giant towers full of slaves with these goals and those that saw these towers would flee in fear. Many would not make it and become food/slaves for the krait. Even after losing these towers to something unknown and being driven inland the continue the same practices. So a loss of power did nothing to change the centuries of hate the krait love so dear.

Yet Scarlet not only managed to talk to this race but got them to ally with another and share their ancient magic passed down verbally from one generation to another. Magic they have never shared before to anyone. She also got them to setup shop inland even further from where they are strongest with this other race in a giant tower. All this for shards they see as a key to their ultimate goal. The krait didn’t try to fight Scarlet for them, steal them, nothing. They just went along with it.

@Varga ~ Actually Anet’s current track record has been getting far better in working within the events to get the miniatures or even farming gold. The Queen’s Pavilion farming, Scarlet invasion farming, backpacks dropping from the mini-games as well as from things such as fortunes, not having to do every meta-achievement to complete an event.

Anet has actually taken quite a few steps forward in letting you work within an event to get what you want. Unlike before where all you did was spam CoF path 1 over and over and over to get what you wanted. Which I really have begun to like as it breaks up the dungeon farming. It isn’t perfect by any means but perfection doesn’t exist to start with.

I also feel if you are going to limit a mini during a holiday to a holiday only item. You should provide a way for me to farm it it within that holiday without breaking my back. I mean it is a holiday not another random living story event with bloody Scarlet. It is something that comes back every year and something a majority of the player base looks forward to the most each year. That or they need to remove the account bound so you can get it later like I dunno… mini’s in GW1?

Weapons skins to me are a little different as this game is more about cosmetics like them as a stand apart thing that everyone notices. Even in WvW with things turned down weapons themselves still appear while the character model is just a generic color. Mini’s though? Lets be honest almost nobody at all notices it but you. It’s something you appreciate not others.

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KorKor.9452:

I can get the last years skins being offered again this year being a little high but it is a little bit much in my opinion. Though I disagree with the bloody prince mini being so bloody high and such a short time frame to obtain him in as well. I mean there are rare drop world mini’s and event mini’s that have passed cheaper then that bloody mini it is a ripoff.

As a mini collector who already got shafted from last years Christmas mini RNG fest and I can never obtain the mini sparkles due to it’s kittened requirements. It really irks me having yet another out of my reach if I want to do anything else in the game besides go for it and it alone.

What are you talking about? If you buy all the candy corn from TP this mini is still cheaper than some of the other uber rare mini’s on the TP. If you really want it, farm the gold and buy it. Why whine about something that is in EVERY MMORPG.

Difference here is you had a year to collect any of the set one mini’s before they disappeared off the gem store. Others such as last years Halloween mini’s when using the gem convertor to buy them from gold to gems netted those ones cheaper. Then yet more from other limited events were cheaper to obtain or even skill based in the Queen’s gauntlet. The set two mini’s as well will likely be here for a whole year and they will go down a little. Even the Teq mini has not left the game so there is no rush to obtain it. None of those harder to obtain mini’s were linked to a holiday either. Which holidays aren’t supposed to be a large grind they are holidays for a reason.

So many of the other limited mini’s were indeed cheaper or easier to obtain. That or are something you can save up for over time. So you can use your gold for other things like skins while also slowly setting aside some for that miniature. This one is a limited time mini for a high price in a very short span of time buying up a limited time resource.

Right now to get this limited time mini you need roughly 160 gold straight shot current prices. While at the start of the event it was closer to 200 gold. This mini is linked to a holiday themed item and I should be able to get it for the same time investment in the holiday itself as grinding out more gold but really if anything it should be easier to obtain it by working inside the holiday then more dungeon grinding again. Even if the way to obtain it was one cob a day off doing the bloody prince dungeon so I had to make a choice between a bag or the mini. Much like how I had to choose which Christmas toy mini’s I wanted last year.

Oh.. and fyi? Due to have a longer amount of time and the way you could farm some of those other mini’s during events better? I’ve gotten EVERY single mini cheaper then I could get this one currently. I will hold to collecting the set mini’s at cheaper as well due to how long they will be around. Both my Teq and Firestorm were cheaper to get and they are far better articulated and animated mini’s then this one in my opinion.

I think they got the story fairly well with the Mad King the first time and I agree with others in that this time it felt rushed. The Bloody Prince felt like he could have been more but due to the way he was put into the game it feels like a flash in the pan. So even if he did have depth it is hard to notice it or care about it because of the way he was rushed in. He just doesn’t capture your imagination in the same way unless you go out of your way for it due to it.

The candy corn element made sense due to the way his father put him into the box but once again this highlights another problem Anet has. They keep putting key details onto their website like that and they never make it into the game. Kinda like how WoW constantly added depth to characters in it’s books but never once bothered to flesh that into the game itself. So the characters to a great many more players then those that ever read the books saw them as shallow and boring.

I read those stories and I like some of them like Gnashblade and the Bloody Prince. Others will always just be bad like Scarlet. Either way though due to the way it is done these characters will always seem hollow to many, wasted potential, etc. These elements need to make it into the game in some form if they are to matter to the player base or it will end up just like WoW did lore wise. A laughing stock to a majority of those who played in the long run. And many cool things like the election just end up being boring to most instead of close. All due to the fact that the important details never made it into the actual game.

So going off the Bloody Prince alone in the game from an average persons point of view? He is seen as an emo child and soon to be boss that drops limited loot. Rather then another chapter in the amazing insane family line that was Mad King Thorn.

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Nilkemia.8507:

Gallrvaghn.4921:

ZudetGambeous.9573:

Zylonite.5913:

Did someone say the LS is grindy?

Lies… everyone knows Anet doesn’t make grindy games!

“We don’t make grindy games.”

“We make grindy patches instead!”

For things that you absolutely need to remain relevant in game!

Oh, wait. No. That’s not true at all.

Considering this is a game that is supposed to be about cosmetics, story, ranked pvp, etc. When that becomes grindy… well isn’t that grinding on what was advertised to be void of it?

Not saying everything is grindy or that it hurts the game to have a few time gated things. This is temporary content though so it’s a little different. It’s a rush to get it if you can at all.

I can get the last years skins being offered again this year being a little high but it is a little bit much in my opinion. Though I disagree with the bloody prince mini being so bloody high and such a short time frame to obtain him in as well. I mean there are rare drop world mini’s and event mini’s that have passed cheaper then that bloody mini it is a ripoff.

As a mini collector who already got shafted from last years Christmas mini RNG fest and I can never obtain the mini sparkles due to it’s kittened requirements. It really irks me having yet another out of my reach if I want to do anything else in the game besides go for it and it alone.

I’ve gotten around 2.5k so far from playing the game. Last year I got light years beyond what I got this year for the holiday.

Which is dumb J Night because with time all the limited skins fall out of favor anyways and you almost see none of them at all. I hate this years Halloween even it is just a grind fest. I’d kill for the bloody prince mini but candy corn is so stinking rare this year you need like 200g+ to get it. The drop rates are so bad on it inside the event that nobody does the event at all. They go grind dungeons or champions to get gold so they can get it and the price of candy corn gets even worse as a result. Since NOBODY AT ALL is farming it.

This years Halloween event was a complete letdown when compared to last years. Ya, it sounds really mean to say that when a developer put work into it and you do not want it to be. The truth is the truth though and that is that last years was actually fun.

Ya, toilet paper is pretty cool and hilarious on tonic users but the rarity kills it. That is something that during the holiday should be everywhere for the laughs. Not rare like a bloody exotic off a random mob.

I made a post in another thread about the event but I feel the need to post here again because honestly this years Halloween event makes me sad.

1: Scavenger hunt last year that let you learn about the Mad King and gave you one the best back pieces in the game. Actively involved the player in more then grinding to obtain something from the holiday.

1A: Related to scavenger hunt. Item used to scan for scavenger hunt let you scan spots all around LA that netted you trick or treat bags. It was like a mini-scavenger hunt with sparkles and it was just amazing.

2: Halloween mats were plentiful so you could load up on temporary skins, Halloween skin weapons, eat candy to be silly, turn in tons to the cute kids for a chance at the endless tonic, etc.

3: Multiple stages of the event that lead you into cool text lore, animated lore, cut scene lore, and made you excited for the Mad Kings return.

4: Multiple mini-games that were quite fun.

5: Mad Kings tower was not only fresh but netted you rewards for each character.

6: Halloween did not overlap with any other living story. So it was the star of the stage and it gave you ample time to get what you want without worrying about anything else.

7: The Mad King story last year you made you anticipate his return. The longer the event went on the more involved it made you in the story of the Mad King. So even if you had not seen him before you were excited that he was coming.

8: Every Halloween item could be gotten in the event itself besides gem store costumes and mini’s. The rare skins could drop off of farming the Mad King, you could grind Halloween mats for recipes to craft later, endless tonic from trick or treat bags which were easy to obtain.

This year the event cuts out things such as the second mini-game, the scavenger hunt type event, farming the clock tower per character, farming Halloween candy corn for fun, overlaps a second living story event, the story of the bloody prince is short and doesn’t feel engaging at all.

Yes, Halloween was brand new last year and that did help a little but that doesn’t change the fact that this years attempts to do far less then last years. It comes off overall as a large grind rather then a holiday event. So you feel as if your time is being wasted instead of enjoyed. The story doesn’t even engage the player with a desire to find out more about the Bloody Prince like it did with the Mad King.

The event is just anti-climatic this year and I don’t care if it ends with a bang. The one last year started with a bang that sent out a shockwave till the end bang sent out a counter shockwave to stop it so it could end. =/

If this event is any indication of what future holiday events will be like I weep for Christmas and it already had a strike against it with last years mini-pet RNG crazyness rather then just letting you buy them straight out like it did with Halloween.

I’d kill for at least the gem bought skins to be alt friendly at the least. Like putting them in with my achievement skins for use when I want. I mean come on.. I gave you money for it Anet. That should warrant more then one bloody use. -.-

It isn’t burn out but rather that the place lacks what people want. It doesn’t net you very much money compared to dungeon runs and the Frostgorge champion farm is also much better in getting money/champion bags. Then to top it off because they wanted to keep the new Halloween skins -rare- they made the Hallowen drops ridiculously low. Not just the special ones either but the candy corn as well is really low because of how much entered the system last year. Anet didn’t want a repeat of people opening 1,000 plus trick or treat bags to get the mats or endless halloween tonic. Even more so now that they linked the mats to getting last years cool weapons and that bloody 20 slot bag. Which by the way it’s so bad it is cheaper to make one the normal one then bother getting candy at all.

Personally it drives me batty because I loved giving the kids in LA the candy in mass each time I saw them. Sure they are fictional but it gave me a laugh and they were so cute. This year however I haven’t given a single one any candy at all because it is such a pain to get and I’m trying to save for the bloody prince mini before the event ends. There isn’t even any temporary skins for Halloween mats either.

Not going to lie even though I know it was all brand new last year so that helped but… last years Halloween had me excited the entire way through and I enjoyed it greatly. This years however as a holiday event seems to fall flat on it’s face. Unlike the normal living story stuff holiday events across all MMORPG’s and in the past for GW have been something that encouraged you to do things through the event itself and were something everyone could do reasonably. They were fun because they were not made grindy because they are linked to a HOLIDAY. This years without the scavenger hunt amongst many other things just seemed boring.

I weep for the Christmas even if this is how they are going to handle it as well. Course that one already has me bitter after the RNG mini’s bit last year. Bet we will still be forced to play tower defense with strangers instead of our friends again. Joy.

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Nilkemia.8507:

Shiren.9532:

Zhaitan killed Tybalt Leftpaw. Checkmate.

And Forgal and Seiran. Well, his minions did it, but still more or less it was Zhaitan. Triple Checkmate. Scarlet hasn’t killed anyone important.

Everyone is forgetting that she killed 10-50k people in the pavilion by bombing the only escape rout. So she killed a kittenload of people. Npcs should matter and be greater motivation for players to decapitate her giggling head off.

But it isn’t and never will be. You see the same stuff with wars all over the world where nobody cares or wants to do anything about it till it effects them in same way. Doesn’t matter if it is selfish it is just how it is and there are to many people in the world to deeply care for every last single one. Same thing applies in the game you will never care about those npc’s that have had NO EFFECT on anything you care about. Let alone default human npc’s who constantly rant at you to accept one of the 6 as your god each time you pass by in the city, etc.

fey.5438:

Too much Joker/Harley Quinn these days. Nothing creative.

I’d say she tries to live up the name but falls flat on her face. I honestly find her to be a very generic Mary Sue that was just tossed in for the story. The Asura are anal about their technology being just their so why would they let Scarlet who isn’t even a firstborn gifted or not into any college? And if it was a rumor you’d hear Asura deny it as an affront to their pride. Then the other stuff such as Charr combat trained.. Really? It took the Pact to get Charr to share their knowledge on how to build their great machines and all their training is done from birth in the Fahrar you couldn’t learn it in all in a few years. Also they might sell technology to be used but outside of the Pact they do not teach others how to build it.

Sure some of this stuff you could always point out Lion’s Arch, Inquest, or something else but her story says this not that. Even then people like the Inquest only do something if they get something out of it and a nobody plant which is what she was at the start has nothing to offer them. So why would they teach it even then? Oh.. and don’t even get me started at the viewing of the ultimate power garbage changing her mind. “gag”

GW1 wasn’t perfect with things like Kormir but I’d still rate it above generic crazy lady. Especially Abaddon as he was threaded throughout the story and manipulated so many in really fun ways. Let alone the story sections involving characters like Glint. I’d still waiting for GW2’s story to pass GW1 and stop taking notes from WoW’s epic bad level of telling with stuff like Scarlet.

Oh.. and while I like the stories on the website they really need to put more of that crap into the actual game. Most people will never see that and expecting people to buy and read your books just to get where the hell someone came from is pretty kittenty as well. Throw more of it into the kitten game or stop calling it living story and call it a content update or patch.

You guys should try guesting to Ehmry Bay a little after peek or during peek on a slow day. We have a guy who will run Teq and has lead many pub groups to victory. Not always on the first try mind you but he does get it done if enough people listen and stay. His name is Ronny Aldo if you want to try it with it. You just have to get on TS, keep the negative BS to yourself, have some patience, and fill a roll. He enjoys the challenge of whipping pubs into shape.

There is a guy on our server who loves the Teq fight to death and wants to keep doing it as long as possible. He likes to take pub groups and train them to be effective at the fight as he enjoys the challenge. However you would need to get on the TS, fill a roll asked, and keep the negative crap to yourself. His name is Ronny Aldo and as long as he has enough people to do it I believe he will keep doing it.

It would? I thought you said you needed a different time frame for it? Either way if the time does work for you just remember it may not happen on the first try but he has lead many pub groups to victory. Just have to willing to get on ts, keep the negative bits to yourself, and do as asked in a roll. I’ve seen him get many groups in shape and been in on three of the kills myself. Not perfect as it is a pug but if you have patience you can get it here with him.

You are welcome to try Ehmry Bay after or during our peek times. If you try peek you will have a few issues getting in but as it tapers off there tends to be a little room. A commander named Ronny Aldo loves to lead pugs to victory over Teq and considers it a challenge to lead pubs to victory on him. So you are welcome to try Ehmry bay.

Just remember you may not get it on the first try with people leaving and coming back but he has managed to organize it several times. Just have to be willing to get on TS, shut up with negative crap, and do what you are asked to do.

I’d say try Ehmry Bay but at this time it is dead there. We get a ton of peeps at peek and it goes on till almost midnight central time here. A commander named Ronny Aldo loves to lead peeps to do it on our server. Just random peeps not in any guild just for Teq. Sadly not in the time frame you’d like though.

You should try our server Ehmry Bay. We have a guy named Ronny Aldo who loves the fight to death and stays down there to lead people as long as he can to victory. We have had a taper off but still a large amount of people that stick around past prime time and during but there is often room. He has led many groups to victory that are willing to listen to him and get on TS.

So any low population servers and peeps having issues are welcome to guest. You may not always get it on the first try with him but he has trained many groups to get it and if you fill out the map once you does what he asks you will get it. So feel free to try Ehmry Bay and look for the Ronny Aldo commander tag.

Still amazed at how little you hear about this before getting on a turret or in general. Seems like something map chat would rant about.

pessimist.7294:

Had the same problem several times. If you got this just jump out of the gun and wait for a few sec. kitten Hyleks arent capable to build a proper cannon.

Except that during that time hardened scales stack up if multiple turrets get the problem. Your turret can get poison spit on it and you get injured or downed while trying to get back on just to fix it. Oh.. and your side of the zerg needed a critical cleanse because the other turret had to cleanse the turret defense team and themselves. A troll could also take it from you while trying to fix it or someone that doesn’t know what they are doing.

Right now being a turret operator is a miserable experience that gets a ton of hate. Much of it very undeserving and I’d be willing to place a fair bet on a nice chunk of it being due to this bug.

I’ve been reading quite a few threads about the Tequatl and I noticed a real lack of talk about this problem bug. Maybe I am just missing it but I dunno but what I do know is it is a large problem. I am hoping it is not part of the design as well because if so someone needs a good thwack on the back of the head.

I’ve noticed that when operating a turret sometimes the turret just stops working for sometimes as much as 20-30 seconds. You can use all your stuff but it does not show the animation or actually cast. Then suddenly it speeds up and casting several at once. This seems to happen quite a few times during the fight and it cause the death of the turret operator, finger teams, the zerg, and can even make a bone wall a closer call then it should be.

Now I know what you are thinking that it is quote -lag- but I have never lagged on this fight doing any other roll on any of my characters and I’ve been in on a few kills now while doing other rolls. Every time on doing another roll there was no lag. Not to mention if you hop off the turret and back on a few times it clears up sometimes. All my abilities and blast finishers also time just perfect the moment I get off the turret at any time. If it was lag it would not just effect only one function of the entire fight.

If this is a bug it is a pretty large one and being that the turrets are mission critical for the fight this is a large problem. It can ruin a very good attempt if multiple turrets get the problem at the same time and I’ve been in turret groups where at least 2 out of the 3 did indeed get the bug. That is just insane for a whole side of the zerg not getting cleanse. Another fun kick about this bug is it only happens during the fight and the turret works perfectly the rest of the time it seems.

I figured there would be more talk about this issue.

I like the new Teq stuff and it is really fun. Sure you won’t down him every time but it really brought our server together. If anything I just wonder how it will work in the long run when less people or just less organized start to do him as others get what they want. Seems like that could be a real issue with a world event like this and multiple dragons and such getting a rework.

Also kinda feel for those low population servers and night time players as well.

I’ve been on two kills for my server and all I got was a rock. You have to get it.. come on...

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Well good on you peeps helping out a low population server. I hope they learned enough to keep it going on their own hopefully. I’ve guested to a few of those servers to do certain achievements where nobody was around and even LA was kinda empty. It’s sad people only care about rolling or guesting only to already overpopulated servers instead of helping build up a new one no matter what MMORPG they are in.

So good on you and continue the trend.

Just a small bump… so.. you released boombox 2 and didn’t fix the problem…. just saying…

Oh.. still can’t carry it on my shoulder, use it with things like tonics, and the price is still high. You’d sell to more peeps if you lowered it ya know. Other instruments let you play anything but this even cool songs is limited.

Josh Foreman.8250:

Rocky launch

Difficulty spikes

Inadequate rewards

Can’t farm

Also, I’m bad at the maths.

Sadly I can agree with them about the length and how to get master of baubles world zone 2 world 2-3 it felt more like tribulation type jumps in a none tribulation mode. That kinda difficulty spike is kinda bad. I got it done but when I a more worried about disconnecting and my progress on an achievement poofing or tribulation mode start over there is a problem.

Don’t get me wrong Josh the design look was wonderful, the shortcut eagle cool to do, the music fit the worlds perfectly, the flowers were a nice idea, bananas were fine. There was a ton here done quite right and many are being quite unfair on not giving you and others at least that credit.

Kinda wish you had fixed the lag over taking out the flowers though or just put it other routes of jumping but left the flowers in for those that had no issues. Maybe even just lowered banana damage instead of taking it away because there should be a penalty for getting hit by something and maybe made it have a DR so someone didn’t get permanently stuck in it. Same for lag on the spouts I LOVED the spouts but what I didn’t like was the lag inside the SAB I get nowhere else in the game making it so it always registered me on it when off and killing me. Once again wish lag was fixed over taking away good content.

PS: Not a fan of the white snow making you unable to see. Even zooming in on my monitor made no difference at all and makes that part 100x harder then it should be. Ya, done it multiple times but still a butt.

Edit: As for rewards? I love the skins from tribulation but not really a fan at all of having to run storm kind levels enough times to gear out all of an alts weapons. Especially one handers.

Xandror.2356:

I bought this thing for the soul purpose of annoying people. Do you think I bought it to enjoy crappy 8-bit music for myself? I am devastated that no one but me can hear the thing. I feel ripped off!

That is not the reason we got it and you are a very depressing person.

Ya, I spent a little gold on it but that is a very good point there Kopper. All the other instruments play whatever you want and this is just the SAB music. While the SAB music is very cool the price point is nutty. Especially when you factor in only getting one worlds songs at a time. I kinda thought I’d get both worlds this time to be honest with this one box but did not.

Azure Prower.8701:

The problem is you cannot dodge jump if you have latency issues as in playing the game from overseas.

Bit of an understatement really.. if you have even the slightest bit of off ping it often just fails. Doesn’t even cover if you have say dodge on your mouse and jump on your keyboard. I had that issue which never was one in any other game and to rework hotkeys just to do SAB tribulation mode. Not a fan of this mechanic… I mean it wasn’t even supposed to be around to start with but now it is.

Evans.6347:

Most stressing moment

You’ve had a relatively easy life haven’t you?

Bet you’ve had an even easier one as you are relaxed enough to throw stones.

Ya, the GW2 macro policy is very vague. I know they want to police bots and such I get that. However it really seems to limit all other options.

That is very sad if true. WvWvW should have all the same silly options.

Just curious if anyone else is experiencing this problem themselves. Even with the proper sliders pushed up it really seems hit or miss if anyone can hear it all around you or even if I can hear it. I know when flutes and others were added they were quite loud which is why the slider was added in but the boombox seems to stay quiet most of the time. People have told me they’ve put master and instrument volume on max but still had issues hearing it. Is anyone else getting this with theirs?

Oh.. and Anet while I like the boombox I am hoping you will modify it so I can carry it on my shoulder instead of in front of me. I mean an 80’s boombox not on my shoulder? Come on now! Oh.. and I hope there will be an insert for set 2 songs… ;3

Because unique skins isn’t enough.. I could agree to a title for doing all the TM modes but this other stuff is just silly.

I haven’t had this happen but I do know the fear of it. When I do these zones and see anything like a new build message my stomach just sinks. The worry of a crash or changing to Moto’s lava bugs out and causes the game to patch. Thus booting me and making me start over. It is part of why I do not really want to farm the place. It reminds me of the fractals in that regard where you could disconnect and never get back in when they first hit.

Now instead of telling you about how hard it is supposed to be or how you are not good enough and should go elsewhere. I’m going to tell you a much easier way to do it and you still may die doing it but here you are.

The real secret here is dodge jumping the mechanic that wasn’t supposed to be here but it is not -used- in mass and isn’t perfect. Either way you press forward – jump – and dodge all at the exact same time. This will make you dodge jump forward and evade that first rock hit as you land on him and then you need to do it asap again to that leaf. This one you just really line up while on that tiny itty bitty rock and then just go it onto the rock and then the leaf. You should land on the upper leaf if not it is still okay. You can jump on the leaf to the left of the bottom one if you land there very carefully so as not to get killed by the lava.

Now the next part has a smaller rock that does the same thing but this one is just speed and right past the stump you just got on. Jump to the tiny rock and then get ready to go to the next slightly larger one. Once you are sure of yourself jump to it and then the tiny rock after as fast as you can or the jumping rock will kill you. No dodge jumping is required for this one. You are now on the other side but not at the checkpoint yet.

Good luck.

I finished all of the TM modes before the changes but really I still think TM mode was more tedious, RNG based, and buggy then actual hard content that would reward a skilled played who knew what to do.

You often clip on edges, get hit in mid air by nothing, have a tail get you killed due to the kitten way your game registers where you are, camera issues, darkness of final level being to low ‘n’ turning up your gamma causing crashes, levels are tedious long not fun long, random lag spikes that do not even register as lag (assuming lag anyways but never lagged before like this ever in GW2) until almost 20 seconds afterward when you just die standing in a safe spot because of spikes you hit well 20 seconds ago before you made the final move into the safe spot, ice movement that isn’t consistent. There is more but you get the idea.

None of that even touches on the forced use of a mechanic I see as a little unforgiving and or bugged called dodge jumping. A mechanic that besides a few rare spots in PvP is not required, taught, or even known to many in the game at all. Yet in World 2 it is pretty much required for nearly all of it on TM mode without exception. The timing has to be done spot on as well without even a decimal point of forgiveness. I’d call a fighting game chain combo more forgiving then it. Very rarely do I get this kinda issue with two buttons needing to be pressed on the PC at the same time. Been playing MMORPG’s since the bloody days of UO and EQ as well. (Yes, I can do it but it doesn’t change what a butt it is here.)

I enjoyed the first SAB to death even though I felt it was to easy when it first came out. Tribulation mode in world 1 all zones I thought was done really well but world 2 all zones? It just felt like a really long kittened grind that I wanted to end sooner because it was devoid of any inkling of fun. Sure I finished it and will probably end up going one more time for that spare skin for the swap weapon. Doesn’t change the fact I still think it is a miserable tedious experience and I’d rather go get hit by a car almost then do it again.

What really makes it worse is after all that I just get one bloody skin as well. Not items to make at least 3 skins for a price of 25g each or something to help balance it in someway. Nope! If I want a side PvP skin and some PvE skins just for one character I’m going to have to run all of it all over again. I feel so bad for people that use one handed weapons in both sets on that front.

I really wanted to walk away from TM with nothing but love but.. nope… can’t do it. I’d have to say older Nintendo games on the bloody NES with that button you had to mash hard to use because you played to much were more forgiving them your bloody World 2 TM modes. Nice job on TM for World 1 but.. world 2 man.. really?

(Edit:) Noticed it sounded a little harsh there Josh. Still love your idea, love the first SAB, loved world 1 TM’s, and such. Not trying to be mean but TM world 2 man.. just.. reminded me more of my high warlord grind in WoW in terms of being tedious over fun.)

I haven’t read the whole thread but pretty sure I get the general idea of both sides. As someone that has completed TM and several of the achievements but not all yet. I’m going to chime in a little.

I do not agree with the coin being a P2W item at all. As the content still remains difficult but I will admit that it does make it far more accessible then people are giving it credit for overall. It is also making these same people who would have not done TM otherwise think it was easy because the cost of death is so low to them. That they are not really wrapping their head around it. They died a thousand times but because they never had to go farm, start over, etc. They see it as -easy- and they are more willing to overlook bad mechanics or RNG due to this coin as well. These same people also have large segments of free time so having to spend several hours to figure something out without a guide is not an issue for them. (Yes, when you do something on normal you are learning the default path layout so stuff in TM is easier to find, etc. So it counts.)

Even so several parts of the content require timing and skill to do. So even without the coin many would still be unable to do it. However on the other hand there is a ton of RNG in SAB that is just bad. You end up dying more then you should due to many inconsistencies in how your character clips, paths, ice reacts to sliding, enemy spawns that make no sense, and more.

I think pride is keeping many people from admitting the flaws in SAB. Even if the guy behind it is a fun guy with a nice idea. It doesn’t take out the flaws of SAB noted above or other issues like the fact the levels are just too stinking long. Even more so just because it is -world 2- not 4 or the final level but just -world 2-.

I like challenging content but TM left me with more of a bad taste. Just world 2 zones that is I liked the world 1 designs. Not something I’d recommend to my friends as fair challenging content.

PS: If you look at some Reddit threads the end of the first day had videos. I didn’t know about them till last night because I wasn’t looking but unless you did it within the first hours it is harder to claim that. I did TM world 1 as soon as the patch went live worked on those till I finished them and did world 2 zones 1-2 TM without doing normal the next day and 3 earlier today. All you have is my word though that I only used a guide for 3 because I was sick of TM by then and just wanted it done.

All anyone has for ANYONE on these forums is their word and lets be honest. Due to gamer pride it isn’t worth much anymore.