Guild Wars 2

Ubung.7423:

Instanced Dynamic Events would be a unique raiding proposition.

Why instanced? Why ruin the massive multiplayer by turning the game into a lobby games where people wait to do dungeons?

They need to add more complex events IN THE OPEN WORLD. If one really needs that “raid” fix, he can find it in other games, and still play GW2 too thanks to its subscription model.

I’ve been a fervent raider in WoW, up to hardcore (hard/heroic modes), up to 4 days a week. And that’s exactly why I don’t want raids in this game.
Elitist, scheduled content, which ends being like a second job, has no place in a video game people play for fun.
5 man content like fractals, which is a huge improvement over the old dungeons (which are going to be revamped), is perfect. It’s accessible, a group can be formed “on the fly” without having to schedule your life around the game.
Want to raid? Play “pandaland”. You can raid there, and still play GW2 since there’s no subscription. But I don’t want this game ruined by that kind of “end game” content.
This game needs to stay on track with its manifesto. They need to add more content in the open world, things like housing you can decorate, mounts you can collect, fishing, mini games like the keg brawl one, open world bosses, etc…, and not more instanced stuff.

Grizledorf.5290:

Let’s keep the discussion civil.

A bit too late in a thread where the second posts compares the moderators with one of the worse prototype of human being in history…

I’m out of here… I see no future for this thread anyway.

The moderators ban/delete troll posts too. To the difference of some “third party” forums, here you can talk about the game without being disrupted by people who hate it and don’t even play it anymore. That’s a good thing.

And yeah, Killul is right… even more because the second post of the thread is breaking the Godwin Law already. People get infracted and banned because they break the rules, and insulting the moderators (which the second post obviously did) is not permitted by those rules.

No serious company would use “volunteers” in these times and days to moderate an official forum. That was good like 10+ years ago maybe, and even then I don’t remember that except on sub par indie game forums.

As a paying customer, I definitely don’t want to be moderated by amateurs/volunteers. It would feel like going to a restaurant, and the waiters are fly ridden beggars randomly recruited through the city streets.

Spakpak.7260:

Korrigan.4837:

“Slower” is relative… you may get a bit less XP per event, but it makes sense, since you are also much more powerful and kill stuff way faster in compensation. At the end the XP/time ratio is the same.
For instance, doing a 50.000 XP event in 10 minutes is the same than doing 2 25.000 XP events in 5 minutes each… and the XP reduction in GW2 is way less harsh than my example.

sorry, I am confused. what does this have to with crafting?

Good question… are you confused about your own post?

You said “I felt that doing level 15-25 zones at lvl 35 was a lot slower than doing ones my level…”, and I was answering to that…

The computer you have will run the game smoothly, but definitely not on max settings. My sister is running it on an even lower specced laptop and gets a satisfying gameplay experience.

“Slower” is relative… you may get a bit less XP per event, but it makes sense, since you are also much more powerful and kill stuff way faster in compensation. At the end the XP/time ratio is the same.
For instance, doing a 50.000 XP event in 10 minutes is the same than doing 2 25.000 XP events in 5 minutes each… and the XP reduction in GW2 is way less harsh than my example.

PvP gives XP – a couple of people in my guild leveled almost only with World vs World.
And if you think about it, GW2 already gives way more “freedom” to level than most if not all other MMORPGs on the market… you can of course do hearts/events, but you can also, as mentioned, do WvW PvP, or you can just craft your way to 80 (you can get to 80 with only crafting if you really want). And you are not restricted to zones of your precise level, but you can go back to any lower level zone you never did and get rewarded appropriately to your real level too. What other “theme park” MMO offers that? I’ve been playing through “Pandaria” lately and hell, how boring it is, you’re on rails, no choice, no variations… in GW2, I can go where I want to level.

My feelings is that they have to rush in “fluff” activities other MMOs have too – fishing, housing, mounts, etc… – the game for now is almost only centered on combat. ANet must not underestimate how much those “fluff” non combat activities keep players busy – and housing or mounts, for instance, are very good opportunities to sell some juicy wanted stuff in the gem store too for the game’s income.

What I want is that when I log into GW2, I ask myself “what the hell am I going to do? I have so many choices, and all are viable and fun!”.

And I hope ANet will give up wanting to become another tiered gear game, and that ascended gear will become widely available without having to farm the same single dungeon.

The ball is in your camp now, developers. Good luck, and a happy new year to you all.

Amra.6028:

How about you drop that semireligious “mommy told me swearing is bad people get blind and god himself will descend to cut their tongues out” attitude?

Nice try, but bad luck – I’m a complete atheist, and I definitely swear quite a lot in real life. Note also that swearing is very different from directly insulting random people.

Typical Internet though – have no more arguments? No problem, just makes personal attacks based on assumptions about the unknown person’s life or beliefs. If anything, you just proved me (and ArenaNET) right. Thanks for that.

Sprawl.3891:

people on YouTube comments do it to purposefully troll overly-sensitive people who have thin skin, and clearly it works on people like you.

Being hidden behind a keyboard and screen and calling people “thin skinned” in a sort of virtual muscle flexing is easy. The person you answer to is right – people do that because they are anonymous on the Internet and there’s close to zero risk of retaliation. As I said in another post, the guy someone just insulted may be a doctor who saves lives daily, or a heavy weight boxer who would punch their nose in if they ever dared to do the same face to face in real life (which they won’t, of course, those guys only do it safely hidden behind a computer).

So please, drop the “big bad thick skinned guy” attitude, that doesn’t impress anyone here. If anything, insulting people one doesn’t even know safely hidden behind a computer screen is cowardice.

Aberrant.6749:

Korrigan.4837:

There are those adults among us, “Aberrant”, and I like to think it’s the majority, who don’t mind the “F” word or the “S” world, but still mind direct insults or very bad racist slurs. Those people turn off the filter, because they want to talk like adults with the other adults in their guild, but still don’t expect to have to face the “N” word or other similar racist and totally unneeded hate filled insults.
Apples and Oranges.

And yeah, I will report you for using the “N” word (or similar stuff). Without thinking twice.

It’s still bannable to even use the occasional profanity. Also I added a bit to my post about giving/taking offense and censorship… which you might want to read and ponder.

Except that ANet doesn’t care about what you do in private chat (aka guild chat and private messages).

Everyone has his own personal level of tolerance about profanity, but the ultimate judge is ANet… and they have very well defined rules about that. While I may let your “F” and “S” go and ignore them, someone else may report them, and you may still get punished… why? Because you broke the rules you agreed to when you started playing this game.

Want to curse? Keep it to friends, private and guild chat, or just to yourself verbally in real life. You have no right to force random people to endure your rudeness in this game, because the game rules forbid it. There’s no “if” or “but”. There’s only rules – you break them, you take the risk of someone reporting you and you being punished. Just like you may drive over the speed limit for years in real life and suddenly get caught and punished.

There are those adults among us, “Aberrant”, and I like to think it’s the majority, who don’t mind the “F” word or the “S” world, but still mind direct insults or very bad racist slurs. Those people turn off the filter, because they want to talk like adults with the other adults in their guild, but still don’t expect to have to face the “N” word or other similar racist and totally unneeded hate filled insults.
Apples and Oranges.

And yeah, I will report you for using the “N” word (or similar stuff). Without thinking twice.

Le Pecheur.2074:

…I’m sorry, but I’m pretty sure if I start doing this, people will start viewing me as a funny street performer…

But in all seriousness, I’ve insulted and been insulted in my life. I’ve done it with friends and people I don’t particularly like. We all have remained unscathed by this.

A street performer, sure… as I said, please be my guest and try it. Go to some random real life community, just like this online community here is, and start to insult random people. You WILL get consequences. Same here.

You don’t make any sense, and you compare apples and oranges. Sure, I’ve also exchanged some mild slurs with friends, on a friendly tone. That’s very different from going straight to some random guy in the street and tell him “hello, you’re a moron” (for instance, just an example). And that’s what people who are rude in game do, except that they only do so because they think they are 100% immune to any consequences, when the insulted guy in “real life” may punch their nose in or complain to the police for public aggression. Authority is what keeps real life communities from becoming an anarchy. Same thing for online communities.

Le Pecheur.2074:

Korrigan.4837:

If someone insults me face to face in real life, he will face consequences. Either with me directly or with the authorities.

I’d love to see you get the authorities involved after some guy on the street called you an idiot or something similar…

While most people don’t bother, for obvious reasons (not worth the hassle), insulting people is a trial worthy offense even in USA. Actually, even MORE in USA… but that’s another story.

As I said, please be my guest, and get your actions up to where your loud mouth is. Go in some public place in your country and town, and start insult people in there. Keep on doing it. But don’t come complain to me when you get punished for it, in a way or another. Come on, grow a real pair (unlike the virtual one you’re wearing here), and show us what you’re made of… apply what you preach in reality. Do it.

Because otherwise, you only confirm my argument that most rude people online only do it “because they can”, and wouldn’t do it face to face in real life. Cowards behind a keyboard.

Leo Paul.1659:

It’s sad to see people impose their personal standards on others and feign superiority. Why do we have to expect everyone to conform to our beliefs? React to statements based on its context. No one is better just because he/she avoids using specific words.

Actually, “some” people are better than others because even in an environment like the Internet, where there are little consequences for behaving rudely or in an antisocial way, they still respect the other players as human beings. And, yes, those people who respect others even when not forced to by laws, rules or other consequences are better than those who don’t. And it’s not about personal standards either, you just don’t go to a random person in the street and insult her. Same applies in an online community. Not insulting a random person just because you can and there’s no risk actually indeed makes you a better person – a person with more self control, with more respect towards others.

I’m not claiming being part of the “better people”, by the way, just stating the obvious. There are definitely people much better than me online.

Le Pecheur.2074:

There are rules against harassment in game that you can report people for…

But if someone simply insults you and you report them, grow up. There is a block function in the game, and you know, you can just not associate with the kitten any more.

Disagreed.

If someone insults me face to face in real life, he will face consequences. Either with me directly or with the authorities.

Same in game. There’s no need for insults, never. Specially not when it’s from a coward hidden behind a screen and keyboard. If you don’t put consequences for behaving like a rude person, you get an utterly bad community, be it in “real life” or online.

Since in GW2 or any other online game, you can’t apply consequences to insults yourself, you have to use the report system, which is the equivalent of real life consequences for behaving like an antisocial, rude person.

Don’t want to face those consequences? Respect the rules, and respect your co-players. They are human beings behind those screens and keyboards. For all you know, the guy you just insulted may be a doctor who could save your life, or a heavy weight boxer who would punch your nose into your face if you were that rude to him face to face. So just don’t do it.

The big problem of the Internet in general is that it gives the term “prey on the weak” a whole new dimension, since everyone is anonymous and therefore a potential target of rudeness and bad behavior with little consequences, if any. Cowards who wouldn’t dare to be rude face to face suddenly become self proclaimed bullies because they are made immune to consequences by the almighty network. I’m glad ANet doesn’t accept that and punishes those bullies.

Sprawl.3891:

Korrigan.4837:

People reported for profanity are banned, that’s a fact.
If you need to swear, do it in “real life”, verbally, no need to pollute the in game public chat with your written rudeness.

I usually ignore the occasional “F” word and similar stuff, but if someone gets into personal attacks and direct insults, or worse, racism or similar crap, I will report him for the greater good of the community and enjoy my game time without him polluting the public chat.

Freedom of speech is not an excuse to behave like a rude brat… or if you believe that, be my guest and put your actions where your mouth is, go to your local bar, or library, or even better, police station, and start insulting the people there… I’m not responsible of what is going to happen to you though.

god forbid you ever attend a professional sporting event, your virgin ears will be ruined by both the fans and players.

Reporting people for cussing is childish. Mommy, timmmy said the f word!!

You may eventually want to learn to read and understand what people post before answering.

I don’t give a “kitten” about the “f word” and similar stuff. There’s a major difference between cussing and insulting.

But when it gets personal and into insults, or turns into racisms or similar extremes, then yes, I’m annoyed, and yes, I will report it so the person gets punished, as per the behavior rules of this game.

And before you post, think twice… because yes, even during those “sport events” you mention… while cussing is no problem, verbal aggression is punished by the law just as well as physical aggression… and that works even in liberal USA. You can’t just go and insult people randomly without consequences. Unless you want either your nose be broken or the police take you in for a day or two of cooling down in their jail cells. In an online game, the equivalent of this is being reported and banned.

People reported for profanity are banned, that’s a fact.
If you need to swear, do it in “real life”, verbally, no need to pollute the in game public chat with your written rudeness.

I usually ignore the occasional “F” word and similar stuff, but if someone gets into personal attacks and direct insults, or worse, racism or similar crap, I will report him for the greater good of the community and enjoy my game time without him polluting the public chat.

Freedom of speech is not an excuse to behave like a rude brat… or if you believe that, be my guest and put your actions where your mouth is, go to your local bar, or library, or even better, police station, and start insulting the people there… I’m not responsible of what is going to happen to you though.

jason.9217:

More people are waking up to these facts and hopefully Anet is implementing a way to keep everyone happy and playing. In it’s current form the game will be pretty dead within a year.

People are saying the same thing about WoW for over 8 years. Just because the game didn’t fit their personal taste, it’s going to die. And we know how it ended…

So many gamers think that because they, and their 5 friends, didn’t like a game, it’s dying. Just like haters said Avatar was going to be a box office flop before it was released in 2009. Once again, we all know how it ended.

Reality check: just because YOU don’t like something doesn’t make it a failure.

Hantu.2815:

Arrclyde.6358:

@Hantu:
Can u tell or show me where Arenanet said their game ist a pure or mainly pvp game? Don’t blame Arenanet or others form u Tod believe some people who said this will be a pvp-game. It never has been sold as one.

@ threatstarter:
There is just a small problem with your wish: i highly doubt that there is a group of people big enough even for just one FFA Server. There are games out there with FFA rules: Moral online, age of conan, tera online….. well Most of them don’t have playerloot. And all of them have a rather small playerbase. Do i really have to tell u what ist a big reason why them are not so well populated?
And One thing i would linke to know: why do u need to take away stuff from other players? Why isn’t it enough to get loot from players in WwW (generated not taken from them)?
You want a fullloot MMO where u can take stuff from others? I highly recommend u to play “The WarZ”.

Again: i am not against One Server with FFA rules. I personally won’t play on those and i see no real chance that this will happen ever.

The 1st example is the very front page of their web site:

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/the-game/

Guild Wars 2 defines the future of online roleplaying games with action-oriented combat, customized personal storylines, epic dynamic events, world-class PvP, and no subscription fees!

Competitive Play for Everyone

Competitive play in Guild Wars 2 is easy to learn, but offers challenges for new players and hardcore PvPers alike. In Player vs. Player matches, small teams of players battle over maps packed with objectives, while in World vs. World, armies of hundreds of players from competing servers wage war across four sprawling maps.

On a different note, the taking stuff away from players is not necessary at all. I would be happy if they at least let me hit someone. There could no reward in killing a player at all for all I care

They didn’t lie. You enter the WvW area, and it’s permanent, full faction vs faction PvP as long as you stay there, and you can level a character from 1 to 80 in there. And the matches are in too.

It’s not because you can’t satisfy your need to gank defenseless newbies that ANet lied on the product – GW2 is exactly what they said it would be.

Amra.6028:

It sure does, but only for people that should never ever have touched online games anyway.

Seems to me it’s more about people who don’t understand what “replayability” means.

Let’s take WoW:Pandaland for instance… to level in that expansion, there is ONE path. One zone per level range, you have no choice. And when you level an alt through “Pandaland”, you do exactly the same quests. Replayability? Very poor. Very boring. And I’m not a “WoW hater”, I have two accounts there and play since release in Nov. 2004, but I’m able to see the flaws of even my favorite games. I doubt I’ll ever run more than two characters through that expansion.

In GW2, the more you level, the more choice in the area you want to go to you have. You can level two characters without ever doing the same events/hearts twice. Tired of the war torn Charr areas? Enjoy the snowy areas of the Norn. Tired of winter sports? Enjoy the grassy farmlands of the humans. Tired of that too? Just move to the jungle of the Sylvari/Asura lands. And there’s no other restriction than your level, you can go back at lower level areas if you feel so and still be rewarded and progress. For instance, you don’t like Orr? You can get to 80 without ever going there.

What game offers the most “replayability”? It’s kinda obvious.

nerva.7940:

they have failed to deliver a convincing, replayable open world. end of story.

So what MMORPG has a better, more replayable world?

WoW, LOTRO or SW:TOR, where you go through exactly the same quests for each new character you level?

Or GW2, where you can go where you want to level, and the more you level, the more the whole world opens up to you?

Sorry, but your “argument” doesn’t work.

Horrorscope.7632:

Would you mind sharing which server you are on? I’m getting this “my server” thing going on, would you please just name it? I’m on Maguma, it’s no secret nor is it mine, I wouldn’t mind a more popular open world server. Thanks in advance.

On Gandara (EU), there are people in all level ranges, and I regularly meet other players when leveling my alts.

Hantu.2815:

Recreant.3192:

• possessive personality disorder

• No one can transfer a character to this server type, and if you create a toon on this server type you can not create toons on the other server types (unless you delete all toons on the FFA server)

• hand holding PVE server

• Post WoW MMO players that are pretty much ex-console players that made the jump to PC/Mac gaming and needed instant glorification or they would just quit and cry like they did when they played console games with there friends.

• Oh and you sir are a complete pu…sorry I called you sir,Ma’am

• Carebears

• babying the players

• greedy slobs

• they just want to save there online ego’s

• “Care Bear Land”

This is a selection of comments from the pro-ffa people in this thread. Having played for years on FFA and PvP servers all the while lamenting the popultion dearth, I can tell you that these comments are indicative of the majority of players that want such playtypes and are the reason that so many are against it.

To put it bluntly, the PvP servers always ends up being dominated by kittens, braggards and pseudo-bullies whose actions and demeanor actively discourage an influx of new players while simultaneously wearing away the resolve of any pvper not in the above categories.

This is almost a personal insult to everyone one who is defending the OP’s suggestion. I can too go over posts made as counter-arguments and make a list for you, and say something like “these quotes are indicative of over-protected players with a nervous systems as fragile as thin ice”. One word that MAY sound offensive to them and you are creating a toxic environment. You step on their mini pet and you are a heartless PKer.

In this comment alone you make players who are defending this idea sound like a group of arrogant e-bullies, by selecting a few words out of a wall of text. The discussion here was actually a good one, with solid and valid points brought up by both sides. Just like you make it sound like you do not want players like me in your game, I do not want exposure to players like you, I am surprised of the breeding ground a game with the word WARS in it has created for your kind. Perhaps i am too old for this gaming community, I an growing sick of the babying done by the games.

Do you realize that your post only confirms what Recreant said? You did exactly what he described in his post.

I’m one of those veterans who played UO pre-trammel, AC1 and other MMOs with FFA PvP, and I totally agree with Recreant. FFA PvP brings the worse out of players, and all the behaviors, and yes, it’s a “heaven” for cyber-bullies. It’s not that all PvP players are bullies, nope, for instance I’ve never been one, but a few are enough to ruin a game. Some people just enjoy going out of their way to ruin other player’s fun, and FFA PvP gives them total freedom to do that. Result? FFA PvP servers become deserts void of players very quickly. UO had to patch in Trammel hastily in order to stop the player bleeding caused by the constant ganking and lowbie bullying. AC1’s “Darktide” server never had more than 8% of the total game population at its peak. All other FFA PvP games either failed or barely survived with a ghost population (Shadowbane, Darkfail, Mortal Online). EvE survived for one reason… the game has safe zones, and according to CCP themself, the vast majority of the players never leave the high security areas.

So yes, you may not like to hear it, but what Recreant says is the truth. FFA PvP attracts the worse kind of gamers, the “bullies”, those who can only have fun when they ruin other’s fun, which is also a bunch of very rude and immature people. I will repeat my disclaimer, I don’t believe all PvPers are those “bullies” at all, but I believe for having experienced it that even a minority can totally ruin a game for a majority.

Totally incompatible with this game, which is based on cooperation. So it won’t happen.

Amra.6028:

Zeldain.5710:

http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/12/19/where-guild-wars-2-goes-wrong/

I think this is an excellent basis for the foundational problems with the game. Try and read it objectively and see if you agree.

Half way crappy.
If you need someone to point you to the next area even if it has levels written on it, you’re outright dumb.
If you don’t manage to craft, you’re dumb as well. There’s lots of things to complain about, but half of what this article covers is a themepark crybabby that can’t ever use his own head when playing.

Totally agreed. Modern MMO players totally forgot that such a game was also about exploring and using basic brain functions.

tigirius.9014:

Only in one spec, warriors can spec into anything and still three shot or one shot everyone, thus the reason for my suggestion. Thieves have to spec all burst damage crit % and and stealth to do this. Warriors can be bunker spec and still do it.

No they can’t, and specially not when “tank” specced. The only people thinking that are those who never played a Warrior at max level.

tigirius.9014:

Warrior is definitely the unnerfed op champion of surviving everything and killing anything in 1 shots or 3 depending on your weapon choice (yep nothing else but weapons, don’t need to trait for it either just bam bam bam and everything’s dead.)

You mispelled “Thief”. It’s written “T.H.I.E.F” and not “W.A.R.R.I.O.R”.

;-)

Joke aside, the classe one or two hitting others isn’t the Warrior, but the Thief right now.

Great job! I don’t think I have that kind of patience

Out of curiosity, why does she buy giant gifts with the “ugly” items? She can get giant gifts easily by opening gifts all over the world…

Zeldain.5710:

Korrigan.4837:

@Rhysati: dynamic events are the CORE of GW2’s PVE gameplay. The hearts where only added late in beta to make people used to the “WOW clone” system feel more comfortable.

And your paragraph about roles shows that despite your little introduction, you are still so used to the WoW-like trinity that you can’t imagine something else working. You only play since 6 days… let the game take you in, instead of trying to compare it and make it match with past experiences. Forget those hearts, go explore. Find those events, those puzzles, dungeons, that are all over the place.

Another hint… if you’re doing the same dynamic events over and over again, you are doing something wrong, not the game. The problem with people used to the WoW model like you is that you are used to the game holding your hand all the time… GW2 doesn’t do that, the game expects that you are a human being, not a machine following a predefined path, it expects you to go out of the way and explore.

If you keep on playing GW2 like you played WoW and its clones before, then YOU are doing it wrong, and it won’t work. It’s not the game’s fault. It’s the fault of all those WoW clones we got served during 8 years who tried to tell people there’s only one way to play a MMORPG. All veterans who played games like UO or AC1 know that’s not true.

No, sorry. Actually, I’m not sorry.

The game’s design doesn’t flesh out the systems how you are “supposed” to play. And if it aint happening naturally, then guess what? It’s the game’s fault, not the player.

Any game designer worth their salt will back that up.

It’s because of people like you that we get the same crappy WoW clones repeated over and over again in the last 8 years. Because of people unable to accept that a MMORPG doesn’t have to be a rush to max level followed by an infinite tiered gear grind.

A game designer worth something will DARE to try something different. Will dare to step away from the sheep crowd. Will dare to kick the hornet’s nest so that the future will be different, and not just another poorly executed copy of a game released 8 years ago.

And I’m not a WoW hater. I played the game for 7+years, with two accounts. It’s a great game. But it’s time for a change, and GW2 started that change.

Or do you REALLY want to play poor imitation of WoW number thousand in 2020? As much as I enjoyed WoW for all that time, with 2 subscriptions, I do NOT want that.

I’ve played UO. I’ve played AC1. I know games not based on gear grinds or forced grouping end game can work. Unlike the generation which only knew WoW clones, I know MMORPGs are not limited to an eternal gear tier grind.

@Rhysati: dynamic events are the CORE of GW2’s PVE gameplay. The hearts where only added late in beta to make people used to the “WOW clone” system feel more comfortable.

And your paragraph about roles shows that despite your little introduction, you are still so used to the WoW-like trinity that you can’t imagine something else working. You only play since 6 days… let the game take you in, instead of trying to compare it and make it match with past experiences. Forget those hearts, go explore. Find those events, those puzzles, dungeons, that are all over the place.

Another hint… if you’re doing the same dynamic events over and over again, you are doing something wrong, not the game. The problem with people used to the WoW model like you is that you are used to the game holding your hand all the time… GW2 doesn’t do that, the game expects that you are a human being, not a machine following a predefined path, it expects you to go out of the way and explore.

If you keep on playing GW2 like you played WoW and its clones before, then YOU are doing it wrong, and it won’t work. It’s not the game’s fault. It’s the fault of all those WoW clones we got served during 8 years who tried to tell people there’s only one way to play a MMORPG. All veterans who played games like UO or AC1 know that’s not true.

Zeldain.5710:

http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/12/19/where-guild-wars-2-goes-wrong/

I think this is an excellent basis for the foundational problems with the game. Try and read it objectively and see if you agree.

Except for the first point, this is complete crap by a person who obviously totally misunderstood this game. It’s obvious that this article was written by a WoW clone fan who couldn’t adapt to GW2.

The first point has some merit, because I think GW2 could have use more “tutorials” about how it was meant to be played. All those disappointed players tried to play this like if it was “WoW clone number 1283974”. And of course, it didn’t work. Old habits are hard to break, specially for those who never knew any better.

The point about dynamic events is the first hint that the guy played GW2 like he would have played any of the bad WoW clones we got served these last 8 years.

The point about area flow only confirms that. That guy has his head so deeply stuck in the WoW clone model that he can’t admit something different can even exist.

The point about crafting is pure nonsense, first he seems to not have understood how crafting works, and maybe he should learn to use the net, wikis and google when his own intellect is not up to the task for something that simple, and fact is crafting in GW2 produces more useful items than in any other recent AAA theme park MMORPG. He’s just doing it totally wrong, and blames the game for it.

The point about story is pure opinion. No problem with that, I personally enjoyed the stories quite a bit, notably the Norn ones, and am still going through new ones on my alts.

And then comes the worst part:

When some guy adds “consider this as a reality check” at the end of his “article”, my conclusion is obvious: it’s another of those arrogant reviewers who think their opinion is the end of it all. And the fact that he tries to minimize the negativity with his “Is it bad then? Oh heck, no” don’t change his arrogant tone which peaks at the “reality check” part.

Here’s a real “reality check” for Mr Eliot: your opinion is just that… another opinion. You don’t hold “The Truth”.

That’s my review of that “review”.

No.
If anything, this game needs more opportunities to play with other players.

One of the several reasons why my guild only accepts 18+ players. And why I stick to guild groups for dungeons.

Renny.6571:

JPs are completely optional.

This.

This game is a MMORPG. This means it will be a game with many different activities, and automatically, there are some you will dislike. Does it mean they are bad? Nope, since a huge amount of people actually enjoy those.

Thankfully for you, those puzzle are totally optional, you don’t need to do them at all to get any reward.

Problem for some is that this game doesn’t hold your hand and use random numbers to dodge/parry/avoid nasty attacks, but require player interaction to do so. This isn’t (e.g.) WoW where you can become immune to crits (from gear or now from specializations). You have to pay attention and dodge those big attacks some bosses have.

cesmode.4257:

I dont know, but after the last event debacle…this one isnt off to a promising start.

I don’t know what debacle you are talking about, but maybe they are just triple-checking everything to be sure it’s smooth before opening the flood gates today?

I’m going to disagree. If you want to use a bow as a heavy armor class, roll a Warrior. It’s good to maintain variety between classes.

I’d rather have them add two handed axes for both Guardians and Warriors.

robinsiebler.3801:

log out to the char selection screen. Why stand somewhere where you can get attacked and why waste server resources while you go do whatever? It is not like it takes long to log in/out in this game.

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This.

And if a loading screen takes 1+ minute(s) in GW2 for you, then there is something very wrong with your computer.

Let’s be honest. I’ve yet to see a single Norn player using one of the animal forms instead of other elite skills. And each time I talk about it with fellow Norns, the reason invoked for not using those forms is the huge cooldown timer.

I’m sure if guys at ANet have some data about the skill usage. Please check this out.

Thanks.

I also have a few tattoos…
If I ever have the time, will and money, I’d love this somewhere on my back:
http://th05.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/f/2012/140/c/b/guild_wars_2__eir_stegalkin__by_dominikmasloart-d50ersv.png

Conncept.7638:

Sky.7610:

mrauls.6519:

I hope this never happens

and your reason?

While I can’t speak for him, I don’t want them because large-scale Free to Play games have the worst communities, and the bigger the game gets the more abusive the community becomes.

Exactly. In addition to the reason I gave about money and the shop, the purchase price stops a good part of the trolls and other immature players who plague the F2P games.

I also hope this will never happen. If they remove the money gains from the box purchases, they will have to compensate through the item shop. The last thing I want in GW2 is a greedy item shop like all those trash F2P games have.

- GW1 wasn’t a MMORPG. GW2 is one. That point alone makes all the difference.

If GW2 was just a copy of GW1 with updated graphics, I wouldn’t have bought it.

The portal to the new dungeon should be put on the new island in my opinion.

I’m gonna be honest with you, OP – I tend to ignore “commanders”. Why? Because 100g don’t make you a good player, or a good WvW leader. There are some real leaders in WvW, at least on my server, I mean skilled people who know what they are doing, and they don’t have the commander title/icon. I wish the title would require some in game achievements to get instead of just gold. You don’t buy skill and knowledge with gold.

But then I would never go out of my way to abuse or insult the people who have it, and I invite you to report the people who do it to the GMs.

That’s why I mostly stick to guild runs. Our guild is mature and relaxed, we only accept adults, most of our members are married with children, and there’s no such thing as speed runs or leaving members behind for whatever reason.

@Amonde: I hope for your own sake that you realize how silly it is to compare playing a video game with a real world relation with a person you love and want to have children with, Amonde. I won’t go any further on this, because it’s a “slippery slope” subject which I feel doesn’t fit on this forum, but your post at best doesn’t make any sense at all.

Lexicaholic.4718:

This isn’t helpful to bringing the community back together and is a mischaracterization of why some people may be seeking refunds.

This doesn’t really affect the community, since those who got refunds can’t play anymore and therefore, by their own choice, are no longer the community.