You got to be kidding…
Thief downed skills may prolong my inevitable death by another 2-3 secs. Hardly a call for a nerf…
You got a little skritt on your face
I need 7 more clovers and have been waiting for it to open for the last week and a half.
I want to use up my karma as well as it’s basically all it’s good for.
Fix culling and make shadow refuge force the thief to stay in it for the whole duration, none of this 5 seconds of prep for 15 seconds of free stealth anywhere.
I believe it’s closer to 4 seconds prep for 10 seconds of stealth (untraited).
Oh gawd yes plz!
I’ve tried to run this dungeon twice with PUGs and once with my guild and have failed at Lupi every time. I’ve given up after wasting approx 6 hours on this dungeon and like you said it’s become more elitist by the day.
I’ve added you, hopefully I’ll see you online sometime soon.
Thanks for the kind offer BTW.
I and many others feel your pain.
I’ve only seen that WP uncontested twice on IoJ since Fractals was added to the game and I check whenever I login.
LOL no surprises Bunzy plays a bunker ele, one of the hardest classes to down.
Totally no bias in his suggestion I’m sure.
Or perhaps you’re just lucky?
I’ve certainly had my fair share of bad PUGs
I hate it when I step on skritt.
I just wish the loot table was as good in other dungeons as it is in Fractals.
It’s a pathetic attempt by ANet to get people to play Fractal content. The loot tables should be the same everywhere.
The devs almost always make the same mistake with stealth classes in every game. First they confuse stealth with invisibility, combine that with high burst damage and top it off with no real ingame counters to stealth.
And yes, i read the official counter, conditions and aoe
I find a good counter is to fart in the general direction of the thief, that usually does enough damage to down them.
+1
I would love to see this option as well.
A thief is OP because , altought is a Glass Cannon he can leave the combat always.
Unless he gets hit a couple times, then he’s a dead thief.
Remove stealth and put a cooldown on heartseeker.
That’s a great suggestion if we were discussing how to make the thief class useless.
Bravo!
I’m so glad you asked this question OP!
It’s certainly never been asked before and deserves a thread of its own!!
I’m going for Bolt and it’s gotta be one of the worst to obtain.
Just for the Gift of Lightning you need 100x Charged Lodestones… You know how rare these things are? It’s ridiculous… I’m not about to fork out 350g to purchase them all on the TP either.
Loving the no grind MMO ANet!
How the hell is this thread still live….
Drop stealth on damage, you gotta be kidding me!?
Still no working guest feature, so yes transfers are still free.
28 pages of baseless QQ.
The only problem with thieves is the way culling affects them.
Fix culling and you’re well on your way to culling the tears too.
+1 here
Would love go toe to toe with some mates for kittens n giggles
Yeah DR is so awesome!
It makes the grind endless and we all love grind, especially in a game marketed as grind free! Remember ANet don’t make grindy games.
/sarcasm
Considering that the loot tables are so screwed up, yes DR seems like overkill.
Yes, let’s remove a core part of combat because it is annoying to some people.
/sarcasm
I keep posting them. Check my posts. Pics, Videos etc. I encourage everyone to post screenshots and videos displaying the broken mechanics.
XII, I’ve seen your so called evidence.
The picture where you were hit 8 times and you claimed it all happened in 2 seconds, which is impossible because the guy used TWO C&Ds in his combo.
All you’ve proven is you’re a complete liar.
You can level a toon in a day in this game. Seriously!
Some people make it out like it’s some huge effort.
I can’t believe people are behind this horrible idea…
Level a class to max and then totally switch professions? You got to be kidding me…
Wouldn’t you prefer ANet just fixed your class?
they are stupidly overpowered, i have a few thiefs in my guild that can decimate a 15-20 man zerg between them. i saw 1 in particular today jump the walls at hills in wvw and fought 8 guys at least dropping them to the downed state and continuing to go through the rest in his way as peeps were jumping the walls to finish them off, so tell me that aint OP. A “Tank” or “Bunker” build cant even do this so why can a class thats pure dmg take a grp of guys all targeting him and still get the better of them. IMO they need a reduction in dmg dealt.
and in reply to the guy above asking for evidence he needs to scour you tube there’s plenty on there
We only need evidence for outlandish claims such as yours.
I feel for ya having to complete the Arah dungeon. Ive tried twice with PUG groups and it was a nightmare, never again.
I on the other hand need 100 charged lodestones to make my legendary, which is another joke IMO.
So tell me how can a thread hit over one thousand replies with such an issue and there is no response at all, not even a single line of typical PR hustle?
I think ANet live by the motto “if you don’t have anything good to say, don’t say anything at all”.
When guesting is fixed, so never.
Please don’t, they’re not needed.
Because so many people are running around Orr, doing temples, completing story mode on old dungeons, and hanging around lower level zones to do champion events.
…
Oh wait…
They are on my server…
Have you considered the ramifications of adding this feature to this game? Can you imagine everyone running around with their own party of henchman? The game is already a cakewalk, no thanks.
Please don’t, they’re not needed.
Apparently the new plan is to keep buffing thieves every patch. I mean they obviously don’t listen to the community and just do their own thing anyways.
Baaaaaaaaaaahahahahaha…
You’re a crack up Bunzy, always good to laugh at.
Keep the quality replies coming buddy!
To be fair, dungeons are aggravating. They take hours, somebody usually drops out, and I just get ticked at stupid enemies whose only tricks are an overly bloated hp pool and high attack damage.
What dungeons are you running? No dungeon takes “hours”, heck most dungeons don’t even take half an hour.
CoE in a pug lol.
The laser part alone can take 10 mins+ ahhahaha
I agree with this.
There’s no way your doing CoE in under a hour with a PUG unless you strike gold with an awesome random group.
The black swirl is definitely there, I rely on it when fighting other thieves myself.
I don’t click on the swirl, I’ve always found either using tab or the button that targets the closest foe are best in this situation.
Logged in for less than an hour, defended the gates of Arah , got lots of greens and two rare weapons (salvaged for three ectos) then killed sparks for about ten minutes got a charged lodestone. Just adding my experience.
I hate you.
I decided to try and farm sparks in Malchors yesterday for 2 hours.
Guess what I got?
Jack kitten
How funny are the cry babies that feel the need to add their little whinge to threads like these.
Keep em coming, we’re all laughing at you.
Back on topic, nice vid prof.
The only problem I see with stealth is the amount of tears it brings to the forums from noobs that prefer to nerf things instead of learning how to counter.
The WvW loot table still sucks for me.
If I see a single rare drop, it’s a very good day.
Yep, ascended gear & fractals was a step in the wrong direction for many of us.
Unfortunately, ANet have already stated it’s here to stay.
I decided after that patch that ANet/NSoft don’t deserve my financial support anymore. It’s really the only way to show you’re not happy. Vote with your wallet.
those swirls will only be visible if the character is not culled
Wrong.
The swirls are always visible no matter what.
Check it out: 21715 damage on a 1681 toughness/2032 hp from a thief in 2 seconds.
3 armor pieces vitality and 3 pieces toughness all exotics with 300 toughness from the defense line.
Are we supposed to go all toughness /vitality to survive a 2 second burst? Not really..toughness won’t protect you from over the top damage -unless you can buff protection in time-.
I wouldn’t mind this damage if I could see someone coming instead of them blinking instantly towards me and being able to get away whenever they wanted.
Sheesh..I can’t imagine what the other classes have to do with their lower base toughness and vitality.
Pic attached.
2 secs to get 8 hits on you? Really?
He got 2 C&D off on you, you deserve to die IMO.
Like many here, I hate the current loot system. It is the grindiest I’ve ever seen. To claim this game is grind free is an absolute joke and an insult to our intelligence.
It feels too much like they’re trying to push people to buy gems. It’s either that or grind your a55 off. The economy and TP are a mess. I just want to play the game normally, like I was lead to believe I could pre-release.
If ANet are trying to turn me off their game, they’re doing a stellar job! I’m on my last legs.
Isn’t Wild Bill the thief that’s been exploiting his a55 off in WvW?
Why would I want to watch that crap?
It’s amazing they are obviously trying to keep this feature even tho they just admitted by the guy in charge of it that DR isn’t needed that their system of reporting and pattern recognition is working just fine, so why is it still in the game again?
Why indeed good sir, why indeed…
i cannot target unrendered players, lol.
Wrong again.
You don’t even play the game do you…
Whatever you say Columba.
You’re obviously well informed on the matter.
/sarcasm
Great work ANet!
I guess that means you can remove Diminishing Returns now right? RIGHT???
