Guild Wars 2

Well, they did introduce a way of converting pve event items into pvp items after halloween, and I hope we have a chance to acquire previously released backpieces that were exclusively PVE before so that PVP players would be able to use them as well.. It’s not so far fetched to have those backpieces returned imho.

Heinel.6548:

I actually hope we get to continue the hunt to append and upgrade it to rare level this year, and in a couple more years to make it ascended.

That’s a very good idea..

I also like the idea of different colored versions.. to reflect maybe the Mad queen or the prince or something… I just hope they bring the backpiece back..

Will we be able to get this back item this Halloween again? I do hope so, and as a skin this time.. It’s one of the best backpieces in GW2. PLS!!!

I also enjoyed doing the quest to get this… Very fond memories..

Welcome to BG to all those peeps who chose BG as their new home!

I’d like to welcome our new recruits.. Enjoy Urge everyone! Thanks for joining us. Mabuhay!

Nick.6972:

Leo Paul.1659:

Nick.6972:

Leo Paul.1659:

Nick.6972:

Just wondering.
I’m mostly WvW player, however, I tend to play PvE too.
The question is – what’s the population for PvE in Blackgate?

We have a very active PvE community too.. We aren’t the world’s first Tequatl Slayer for nothing after all. :p

What about WvW queue times? I’ve heard sometimes you have to wait for 3 hours.

Not true at all.. Queue times are only heavy during the first few hours of reset.. And even then, it will not take you more than an hour to get in..

And what about zerging? I prefer medium fights/roaming since my PC can’t seem to handle anything above 30vs30.

Yea mine neither.. Teams are not organized pretty well in BG wvw, they’re also a variety of types so you can always join the team that suits your preference as far as numbers/roles go. You won’t have any problem finding the kind of play you want. XD

Nick.6972:

Leo Paul.1659:

Nick.6972:

Just wondering.
I’m mostly WvW player, however, I tend to play PvE too.
The question is – what’s the population for PvE in Blackgate?

We have a very active PvE community too.. We aren’t the world’s first Tequatl Slayer for nothing after all. :p

What about WvW queue times? I’ve heard sometimes you have to wait for 3 hours.

Not true at all.. Queue times are only heavy during the first few hours of reset.. And even then, it will not take you more than an hour to get in..

Yea I posted it on the wrong forum.. I asked the moderators to transfer this after I’ve realized that.. Just waiting for their response. :p

Nick.6972:

Just wondering.
I’m mostly WvW player, however, I tend to play PvE too.
The question is – what’s the population for PvE in Blackgate?

We have a very active PvE community too.. We aren’t the world’s first Tequatl Slayer for nothing after all. :p

thank you aRkN.1943 for choosing blackgate.. if you have friends that can transfer as well, that will be great.. There are a lot of options when it comes to choosing a wvw exclusive guild in BG, but I will leave the recruitment plugs for their leaders.

We are urging all active Filipino players of Blackgate to join us! We are now under new management, and are currently accepting WvW as well as PvE and PvP players..

And in the spirit of nationalism, we are also open to part timers, Filipinos from other servers who can/will only rep during Guild Missions (scheduled on Fridays 8pm Manila time)..

For invites, send an ingame mail to:

Mockingbird
Panginoon
Spring Hevn
Christiev Lesedi
Pknoob
Kaeru Aeifrilix
Thasee.2798

You’ll never regret joining BG, the community is friendly and helpful…

We are urging all active Filipino players of Blackgate to join us! We are now under new management, and are currently accepting WvW as well as PvE and PvP players..

And in the spirit of nationalism, we are also open to part timers, Filipinos from other servers who can/will only rep during Guild Missions (scheduled on Fridays 8pm Manila time)..

For invites, send an ingame mail to:

Mockingbird
Panginoon
Spring Hevn
Christiev Lesedi
Pknoob
Kaeru Aeifrilix
Thasee.2798

I really dislike them.. ugh.. I hope they make them so easy to get as compensation for their ugliness,

You know the sad thing is, I barely remember what happened with the Living Story even though I played through all of the content. The releases didn’t have enough impact on the world.

Machiavel.6042:

Well, at the same time, you have to consider the fact that the teams are rushed to get that content as fast as they can, so they don’t always (do they even ?) have the time to test it.

It’s not like Eve, where you have test servers, and the content is tested for a while.

Remember, NcSoft always is looking for money, so it’s putting a lot of pressure on Anet for making new content fast. Sad reality.

Exactly why I’m starting to hate these bi-weekly updates. I feel like they need a break from making new content and focus on fixing what needs to be fixed first.. I feel sorry for the Anet team if they’re being driven like slaves with impractical deadlines.

It’s not the pace that I’m concerned about, it’s how much bugs we get everytime we get a patch. Like in a day, we get 100000 bug fixes patches. It’s seemingly becoming very unprofessional.

They’re rushing too much.

It’s nothing like GW1 that’s for sure. It has a lot of problems, and things that aren’t appealing to me as a massive GW1 fan. That being said, it still is Anet, and I am still hopeful that they will get their act together and make this game better. So buy it, and if you don’t like it at it’s current state, then you can wait until it does.

At the moment, I’m feeling that it isn’t the right game for me anymore, with how they’ve introduced so much stuff that detracts from their manifesto.

I think I’m getting the break I need from the game with this update..

Ok I really am getting annoyed with these bi-weekly updates that have so much bugs associated with them. I’d much rather have them take a break, fix what needs to be fixed, before introducing new stuff… The wvw bug is a huge one imho. And the cloth aqua breather for females are still invisible. :/

As much as I LOVE the new hairstyles, none of them clips well with the Mask of the Queen for human females so I don’t think I’m getting the new ones at the moment. /sad

It’s not that I want less content, I just want them to be very polished. Right now I think wvw matchup is bugged, and the cloth aqua breather is still bugged for human females. I feel like they aren’t taking their priorities right at the moment.. I know people will disagree, but for me, I’d rather have them improve and fix what we already have than introduce new ones.

on human females.. please fix it

champ.7021:

GoldenTruth.2853:

champ.7021:

GoldenTruth.2853:

champ.7021:

The new one looks boring as hell and it only took the devs 30 min to finish meaning for pug groups it will take 5 min + 7 min of watching the unskippable npcs talking scenes.

Someone didn’t actually watch the stream >.>

I did all of it ill go back to watch it in case i missed anything but it seemed really boring. The worst thing was that puzzle part. I dont know about you but i like difficult bosses not difficult communication with members of my party especially those french guys who somehow keep finding their way into my parties.

We’ll whether it is interesting or not is subjective, but in the stream they didn’t finish the dungeon. In fact they stopped right before the 1st boss (of what I would guess is 3 bosses).

They spent 9 minutes failing the puzzle then trolled us by not showing at least one boss fight…

OMFG you’re right the whole thirty minutes wasnt even the whole path………jesus those guys are bad.
I hope you can skip the trash mobs that those anet guys love to kill.

Well, according to the dulfy stream preview I read, the trash mobs WON’T be skippable (is this even a word?)

I hate Fyonna so I support this decision.

Tachenon.5270:

Vayne.8563:

A lot of the newer content isn’t temporary, though. Tequatl is here. The new dungeon path coming is permanent too. And some of the stuff, like SAB is recurring like a festival.

It seems the new dungeon path is replacing an old dungeon path. Most peculiar logic being employed there. Most peculiar, indeed.

I find this odd too, especially since each path seem to have an interesting lore attached to it.. Maybe they’re just working on it and just TEMPORARILY replacing it with the new one?

Red Falcon.8257:

Disagree on ascended blamed on anet since it was the community to cry for a treadmill in september/october, little to do about it since players would complain without.

Well they could’ve implemented it in a friendlier way. Right now, ascended items feel so disconnected to each other in how they are acquired. It’s so clunky that it really seems rushed or a mere afterthought.

Vayne.8563:

A lot of the newer content isn’t temporary, though. Tequatl is here. The new dungeon path coming is permanent too. And some of the stuff, like SAB is recurring like a festival.

Yea like I said I still have hope for this game… I just wish they prioritized the new skills/traits over these ascended items. I’d be upset (again) if they introduce ascended armors BEFORE some sort of horizontal progression.

Me, who is a massive GW1 fan, it’s not like I hate the GW2. In fact, I like it, and have been logging in still pretty frequently. It’s just that I don’t like where the game is headed, particularly the temporary contents and especially with how the ascended items were introduced (and how it is acquired via time-gating and stuff) and the justifications they made (how it’s supposed to bridge the gap between exotic and legendary when in fact it makes it worse when they implemented ascended weapon crafting and how it uses resources that could’ve been used for Legendaries instead).

BRIDGE: a structure carrying a pathway or roadway over a depression or obstacle. (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bridge)

BUT, I still have hope that they’d still be able to fix the game enough to still abide by the manifesto (how we’d find the things we love from GW1 in GW2 and how there isn’t a steep VP in terms of getting BiS) they had when they were promoting this game. So we criticize, and we say how we don’t like the game as it is now. They’d still be able to make the game as good as it was before, when it was fun and when it didn’t feel like a chore.

For one, I’d rather have ascended equipments tradeable, like exotics, so that we still have one universal currency to purchase any equipment tier we need, and play how we wanna play the game and not lose on any content: GOLD.

For the temporary content, I wish we could have a wallet of some sort of the skins we have unlocked via the meta achievements from LS like the one on the achievement panel. I find it annoying that when new backpieces are released, I have no way of getting the old one back once I transmute, and probably never will. As a sort of souvenir affirming that I was there when it was released or whatever.

O_O they heard me! I’m so happy!

I won’t mind buying a total makeover/hairstyle kit if they would just release new hair/faces for my human.. the Mask of the Queen headpiece that they’ve released clips with every human hairstyle except for the semi-bald ones/mohawks.. so annoying

Isn’t it easier to make them than to keep on making new weapon/armor/backpiece skins? The human hairstyles aren’t very good..

Kaineng please.. My cousin and uncle are from kaineng and they really want to beat tequatl.. I hope my server (Blackgate) comes and help them

I love them! Looking forward to more wing-themed backpieces (shatterer pls!). Had to buy a flame dye to complement the colors though.. -_-

Post your screenies of your characters wearing the wings..

I bought the game under the impression that it will share the same horizontal progression that GW1 was popular of. Why wouldn’t anyone think the same, when it’s marketed as having all the things we love about GW1?

Once the prompt pops up I only have the options “Wait/Go” and I dunno how to cancel that queue even through changing character I still get transported to the arena..

Because 250 years and a retcon isn’t enough for me to like them for what they did in GW1.

Blaine Tog.8304:

Vayne.8563:

DeWolfe.2174:

I can make the argument pretty simple. The economy has become the 800 pound Gorilla in the game. Because it appears the economy is affecting the developers judgement.

Obviously the “No grind” sales pitch was misleading. To say Ascended Gear was created because we obtained Exotics too quickly, means they always intended for us to be chasing a level of gear. Not spending the majority of our time experiencing content and story.

I don’t see how you can draw this conclusion. Making one thing too easy doesn’t mean that anything requires the majority of our time. In fact, Ascended gear, in and of itself, doesn’t require all that much time…it’s an encouragement to play different parts of the game.

No, Dailies are an “encouragement” to play different parts of the game. Adding in fun new rewards would be another way to encourage playing different parts. Making the game itself more fun would be the best way to encourage playing it.

What ANet has done is set up a system that extorts us into playing very specific parts of the game in very specific, grindy ways if we want to maintain a competitive stat total. Sure, you don’t HAVE to grind champions all day and then go into crafting, but then you’ll fall behind other players who are willing to put in the time.

A core tenant, perhaps THE core tenant, of GW1 (and supposedly GW2) was that playing more shouldn’t give you a statistical advantage over your fellow players. There would be a stat baseline everyone could reach fairly easily, and then all the rewards after that would be purely cosmetic. Want to dump a bajillion hours into the game? Here, shoot for a Legendary weapon or two, but you’re still going to have to fight on the same playing field as Joe Casual.

Ascended gear will cause people to fall behind, in some cases rather significantly. This wouldn’t be such a big deal except it’s explicitly not supposed to happen in GW2. It’s a betrayal of core principles, and I think it’s clear that many of us find that disturbing and unacceptable.

This.. I really feel betrayed by Anet through the introduction of ‘basic’ (non-cosmetic) BiS equipment that requires a significant amount of devoted time..

I can’t even begin to imagine how much time we have to devote for ascended armors. If we are to follow the means of acquiring ascended weapons, it will take us 3 months just to fully equip 1 character

ZudetGambeous.9573:

Galen Grey.4709:

You keep assuming I am trying to cheat, I am not… here is a run down of all the costs I considered:

I stated:
2.6g + 20 skill points + 5g+ (1.6g/5g) + (32s / 80s) + (1.2g / 3.2g) + 20g + 5g+ (30s / 1.2g) + (24s / 1.2g) + (18s / 1.2g) + ( 60s / 3g) + 5g + 63k karma

That still leaves:
500 piles of bloodstone dust – 17 champions
500 empyreal fragments – 25 dungeon runs.
500 Dragonite Ore – 17 temple runs
10 dark matter – 20g

Thats broken down into:

20 Pile of Crystaline Dust – 2.6g
360 Thermocatalytic Reagent – 5g
1 Augur Crystal – 20 skill points
160 Iron Ingot – 1.6/5g
80 Steel Ingot – 32s / 80s
160 Darksteel Ingot – 1.2g / 3.2g
400 Mithril Ingot – 5g
11 Globs of Ectoplasm – 5g
60 soft Wood Plank – 30s / 1.2g
60 seasoned Wood Plank – 24s / 1.2g
60 Hard Wood Plank – 18s / 1.2g
150 Elder Wood Plank – 60s / 3g
1 Exotic Inscription – 5g
30 Obsidian Shard – 63k karma

Going with inflated prices that equals to 58.2g

ohh seems I did do a mistake in my orginal account I double counted 20g, so its even cheaper then I was saying.

To craft an Ascended weapon you need 58.2g in mats and exotic weapons to break into dark matter
63k karma, 20 skill points, 17 champions, 17 temple runs and 25 dungeons

That means the difference between
Vulcanus: 470g + 10 dungeons runs + 50 skill points.
and an Ascended Weapon
58.2g ,63k karma, 20 skill points, 17 champions, 17 temple runs and 25 dungeons

is On vulcanus side 416g+30 skill points
and on the Ascended weapon side
63k karma, 17 champions, 17 temple runs and 15 dungeons

for your statement to be true that IE its much more grindy to get an ascended weapon then it is to craft vulcanous

416g + 30 skill points would be less grindy to get then

63k karma, 17 champions, 17 temple runs and 15 dungeons.

Personally I dont believe thats the case.

And for the 2nd time no one is trying to play with numbers and cheat.

Well I think this kills this thread pretty soundly. 58g for a weapon using inflated prices. In a week this will be down to ~40g. Hardly a grind, and not even laughably close to a legendary grind.

How much will it cost to level 1 crafting from 400 to 500 vs how long it will take if we take the longer route?

I like GW2 when it was much simpler.. When we only needed either crafting or karma or tokens, from just whatever type of content we want, when we want it and still get BiS equipment without so much hassle.

I chose GW2 because I thought the grind was gonna only gonna be cosmetic.

At this point, I feel like I’m in a dollar auction (zero-sum game). To quit or not to quit, which one will minimize my losses.

Unfortunately the effects get covered up by my bolt -_-

Aphix.9846:

Anet does a great job, ascended tier is a good thing and kinda needed, but not a must for wvw etc like some people are saying, thats nonsense. Take your time and craft it if you can/want if not then dont, and if you play 67 alts well thats your problem.
They are releasing them bit by bit as well, I now have like 4 sets of ascended trinkets, at 1st I thought I could barely get a set before they release new types of ascended, Im guessing ill have several weapon sets before they release the the ascended armor. And never have I felt a difference when playing on an alt which doesnt have any ascended trinkets, the stat boost is barely, if at all noticable.
Get to playing stop moaning so much, its in the game already theyre gonna add armor as well thats a fact. Get over it.

I don’t know about you, but I don’t really like being lied to when they said exotic was the highest tier. And telling people to settle for 2nd BiS equips is silly.

Acerola.6407:

@ Deamhan.9538

I didn’t expect you to behave this badly. What’s wrong with this forum?
You said it takes long to get BiS and that’s bad for WvW’ler. Yes, I totally agree with that, but that has nothing to do with what we (or I ..) were (was) discussing (or trying to discuss as it doesn’t seem to be a discussion to begin with)

Umm read the OP’s post again pls.. This topic has everything to do with WvW.

Because you can’t.

Please stop trolling @Acerola.

Deamhan.9538:

When comparing an ascended ring to that of an exotic with a jewel covering the exact same three stats, the ascended actually provides a greater benefit than the exotic and jewel combined. That’s not including the use of the upgrade slot and it doesn’t include being able to make it “(infused)”.

That’s per trinket.

Add all the trinkets
Now add the differences between the exotic armor/weapons to the up coming ascended versions.

The fact is that it will render existing BiS gear obsolete (aka No longer BiS) and the difference between someone with and without will actually be rather significant.

Here’s a little food for thought.

To your average runner who simply does it to stay in reasonably good shape. Shaving a second off your 10km run is not all that much.

To a professional athlete, it’s an eternity.

When you are talking competitive and skilled players fighting each other in WvW, that extra bonuses to stats makes all the difference.

Now you can ignore the fact that they are introducing new BiS gear to replace the existing BiS gear for the armor and weapon slots. You can argue that it’s not a new tier and say that they are just finishing off an existing set. But you can’t ignore that by making such an argument, and following that logic, that they are simply finishing the spiral they had already created with the introduction of the ascended trinkets.

Sorry Acerola, but your posts don’t hold any water.

Sigh, unfortunately I don’t think they will ever understand this.

IndigoSundown.5419:

Norelation.3067:

Ascended gear was supposed to be a tier in the initial release of the game for the love of all that is fluffy..

Yeah, their pre-launch publicity repeatedly spoke about Exotic as the highest tier, with Legendary having the same stats. So, you (and ANet, apparently) would rather I believe that Ascended was always supposed to be in the game. This means that they said one thing while planning something else entirely. You do realize that makes them look worse than if they said, “We know we said X, but we didn’t anticipate certain things, and for the good of the game we’re going to have to change horses in mid-stream.”

This.

This isn’t what the game was supposed to be like when I spent money on it. That’s my issue with this ascended crap. Why couldn’t have they just focused on new skills, weapon sets for professions instead?

If they really planned on introducing ascended gear at the release of the game, then we probably wouldn’t be having this mess of time-gated, inconsistent currencies and just plain poorly implemented style of item acquirement.

xephire.8324:

Acerola.6407:

No, cesmode. I know what a treadmill is BECAUSE I played WoW. You don’t. Read TheDaiBish.9735’s post, please.

I know gear treadmill because i play omg,releasing bits of ascended gear one after another is just a lie, a cover up another way to release new gear type into a game bit by bit.

You know, they seem to be so caught up on the textbook definition of gear treadmill that they don’t understand what we’re trying to say.

xephire.8324:

and we will have the epic set,god like set,OMG set,troll set,impossibru set….

I’m sure there’s a tier after ascended. We already have it. It’s called legendary. Sure it may not have better stats, but the way they’re allowing free stat change is still an advantage.