Guild Wars 2

What, haven’t been gun flamed yet?

… Did you mean 13 year old hardware?

Very easy to be into the score on certain servers… Less so on others.

They’d need to run the last of us off first.

Sounds about right.
Though if everything is already decided and no actual input is sought that’d pretty much be the other betas.. So who cares which group the “testers” are drawn from?

I’ve had a few cards in for this game, Anything stronger than a gtx660 is wasted,, Unless you’re supporting multiple monitors. Better to buy a liquid cooler for your cpu and overclock.

Svarty.8019:

Nozzle.8031:

or why should us EU daytime players have privileges over anyone else’s timezone? what is prime time for us isn’t prime time for others, it is what it is, if you dont have players playing at what is our night time that is just unlucky cant have 1 rule for one and another for others

Why? Because the server clearly states that it’s an EU server when you choose it. That’s why.

But whilst I’m not entirely in agreement with the OP, I think he has an interesting idea in a “vulnerability window” like the Crowfall devs have talked about.

Ugh no.
Aion had vulnerability windows, it’s basically a scheduled blob war.

PvP and thin skins don’t mix well.
Gotta roll with the punches a bit guy.

Dawdler.8521:

LetoII.3782:

There’s a point of diminishing returns for Rev now. No matter how many do a CoR, only one will hit. Prenerf the more the better, now they’re stepping on each others toes.

That’s huge

Eh what? All damage from different players stack. Incoming damage suffer zero limitations, unlike the 5 man AoE cap of outgoing damage (this is why we can bomb). No amount of icd change that. 20 revevants hitting 2 on 1 player will do 20 times the damage of 1 revenant hitting 2 on 1 player.

Watch the video linked earlier in the thread.

Caedmon.6798:

Theres gonna be issues where people can glide into towers,i think thats the main reason for them not implementing it yet.

They’ve already created a device to knock players from the air, they’re called “no fly zones”.

VaaCrow.3076:

LetoII.3782:

Some think the amount of points per is too small, me among them.

+1. Would like to see an increase in points on kill, seems too small atm.

Op deleted a bunch of his posts… Or got deleted?
I was responding to a post that isn’t there now, my bad for not quoting <,<

But yeah, statement remains true

ResilientCrab.5162:

So when we get this big WvW update Anet has been talking about for a while can we get another WvW tournament? I think they are fun a give a little more reward for the weeks match up.

Getting shot down seems like reasonable counterplay… And there’s the glider stealth.. Only place I’ve got to use it is against Mordewhatever

Some think the amount of points per is too small, me among them.

There’s a point of diminishing returns for Rev now. No matter how many do a CoR, only one will hit. Prenerf the more the better, now they’re stepping on each others toes.

That’s huge

They’ve got about 5 months to wow people before they get some srs competition…
Seems a great place to stand out a bit to me.

And thusly did the short Reign of the Rev see it’s conclusion.

and the peasants rejoiced

Glider chases in Aion were awesome, DBL seems custom made to relive that experience.

Yet it’s missing…

Agreed, I’m glad dolyaks have been given relevance again.
The blob can’t be everywhere.. The more places it needs to be, the less likely it is to grow.

Maybe small groups will even become a thing again O.O

Your complaint barely warrants one thread, much less two.

Nonissue
So many ways to complete this task its hard to see why anyone would complain.

Wish I’d been in that group.

You guys don’t get it. Anet has devised invisible walls you can’t pass through already.

It was in the last Guild Chat.

If we bug them enough they can solve their Druid and Guardian leap problem AND give us cheat-proof gliding.. At teh same time

They already have the Anti-Gliding walls developed, you’ll see them in core Tyria come Tuesday.
The work is done, just not transferred to WvW

Updrafts off the edges of EoTM would make that map better, for sure

Boreal.9826:

Very well said, Phantom.

O.o

Swagger.1459:

LetoII.3782:

Swagger.1459:

Players are there for different reasons… Such behaviours exist in wvw too…

Yes, but NOT because of the money or the mega-xp
Note that when collusion first occurred en masse in WvW (GvGs), Anet was quick to respond with the Obsidian Sanctum.
EoTM is another Quarantine

You should focus more on the big pictures and benefits of eotm… WvW is dying, eotm is not… The devs hit a home run with eotm, y’all should give it more credit…

People complaining that WvW has reached an experience quality so low that EoTM is better, is most definitely NOT the same as EoTM is the best form of RvR lol

Swagger.1459:

ArchonWing.9480:

kroter.1326:

ArchonWing.9480:

If people wanted to wvw instead of EOTM they would. They’re not there for a reason. If you remove EOTM, there’s no guarantee they’ll go to WvW.

That’s why I also proposed cutting out WvW rewards out of EOTM. Or at the very least limiting rank-ups in EOTM to one per day, similar to what was done for PVP custom arenas. If they like EOTM so much they can still play it, but if they want badges, proofs, memories, rank-up chests and dailies – welcome to WvW. Because having it all in EOTM and having it unrestricted feels like having PVP progression for killing training golems in HOTM.

The thing is there’s a chunk of EOTM’ers that are into pve and have no interest in fighting other factions or players. A lot of people just use it to level. So if you nerf that crap, well, it’s just back to pve.

Dear ArchonWing,

Please pass this along to the team…

Allow players to buy those unobtainable mist weapons gathering dust for a year and a half now…

1 weapon for X badges of honor and X crafting material or X mystic coins or something…

Thanks!

LetoII.3782:

Not all resources.

Swagger.1459:

Players are there for different reasons… Such behaviours exist in wvw too…

Yes, but NOT because of the money or the mega-xp
Note that when collusion first occurred en masse in WvW (GvGs), Anet was quick to respond with the Obsidian Sanctum.
EoTM is another Quarantine

Resource gathering… that’s interesting, considering players can gather resources faster and more efficiently in pve…

Not all resources.

Swagger.1459:

Your arguments are weak with your generalizations…

My, so aggressive :]

Brutal Augus.5917:

As it stands, Eotm is imo a third of the overall problem with WvW. If you want to have RvR in an MMO the population and system by which you manage that population has to work appropriately.

You can’t make people WANT to do what you want them to do.

Something many citizens of Democracy seem to misunderstand.

Aaron.4807:

LetoII.3782:

kroter.1326:

ArchonWing.9480:

The thing is there’s a chunk of EOTM’ers that are into pve and have no interest in fighting other factions or players. A lot of people just use it to level. So if you nerf that crap, well, it’s just back to pve.

There is also a huge chunk of people who will switch back to WvW, just as they switched from WvW to EOTM some time ago.

And PVE belongs to PVE, isn’t? But I like how much you care about those poor PVE people, Mr WvW-specialist.

He does have a valid point.
Keep trading, or as it’s known here Ktrain, is historically an issue in RvR games that has a negative impact on game quality… Sides shouldn’t collude. It’s also why Anet is careful not to make WvW too rewarding.

EoTM does us a favor in giving inclined individuals a place to engage in that behavior. Away from us.

My guild [IX] Had better fights and more fun in one night of EotM than the past 3 months of regular WvW combined. Anet has totally killed WvW and blaming EotM for Anets failure to actually listen to the people that actually play WvW is pretty kitten stupid.

You know what is great about EotM? No kittening banners, and people will actually fight instead of turtle in a tower. WvW doesn’t do any of that anymore.

Archon Wing and I are both making the point that Long-Term AND Hotjoin RvR have their place.
Why it’s assumed I have no EoTM experience and require educating about the goings-on is a bit curious.. As I not only beta tested the map, but also have leveled characters there… And had a few good fights, given.

Swagger.1459:

@letoll

It’s unfortunate that you are generalizing players in eotm or eotm itself. Behaviors like that happen in any game sorry, wvw is not immune. All types of players are across the entire game…

Individual commanders set the tone, and there are some great commanders who have and do run in eotm. I’ve seen competent commanders in both wvw and eotm… I’ve seen competent havok groups and guilds and scouts in both wvw and eotm…

Don’t generalize players or game modes with assumptions, it weakens your argument.

You deny a significant amount of EoTM maps are devoted to leveling and resource gathering? Or that such behavior hasn’t become so endemic in past RvR games as to ruin the intended gameplay entirely?

Darknicrofia.2604:

guardian hammer feels like an offhand compared to scrapper hammer :\

Next compare Spirit Weapons and Drones xD

I think we have 4 WvW maps, and should have a single instance of each available. 2 Home BL’s for the 3rd place server, one home BL for the 2nd, Invader on all 3 for the winning server.

10% of the male population has hereditary color blindness.
Primary colors… Most of them unused.

I like the event, had some good fights doing it.
So long as the lag goes away it should be fun.

Research says if you like WvW, you’re really into grinding dust mites.

I would post in such a fine thread

I spent a ton of cash for WvW items.
Skins, merchants, finishers and transfers… Not to mention the original game AND expansion.

They could’ve sold me a map pack no problem, before HoT… Right now I feel owed for the expansion yet so I buy nothing.

DaVid Darksoul.4985:

a game where you did nothing but run around logging and mining

Isn’t that one called Runescape?

Skeletor.9360:

traps…what is the counter to a trap?

A good build

illenos.5134:

Entenkommando.5208:

Turtle Banner ftw!

Now everything makes sense! I see what they did there. Change stability, wait until everyone gets mad, give us an awesome new feature replacing the old stability and let us grind for it. Get your kitten into PvE!

First new WvW mastery: Standing

Must kill Claw of Jormag 5000 times to activate.

Zioba.6182:

Frenk.5917:

Do they even WvW?

No.

Frenk.5917:

Actually, do they even read the forums?

No.

OP doesn’t think they were first to activate.. Do they?
I’m confused about this thread.

Daddar.5971:

Simple solution: Banners are only usable when you have the outmanned buff.

You would think so, but Anet seems to love their blob guilds and the blobs would absolutely HATE that.
Of course, at this point most of their remaining customers are bloblings so there’s that.

apharma.3741:

Thing is, as you say, eles don’t get 40% crit chance from fury,

Fury is 20%

PvE players used to have to come in WvW for their legendaries, they removed the requirement…

Hammer being a ranged weapon leaves me scratching my head… Just as a little side to the specifics.

sephiroth.4217:

Hayzed.1507:

Wryscher.1432:

Hayzed.1507:

Dodge? Don’t have a banner of your own? Join a guild.

So you are agreeing with the op? He complains about main counter to a dragon banner is, get your own dragon banner. And your witty response is get your own banner?

At least we are all on the same page I suppose.

Is it OP? Sure but its not like you cant have one yourself, if dragon banner helps your 40man squad wreck a map blob then whats the harm in that?

Banner v Banner v Banner.

Sounds like a great game mode.

Yep, couple guys with banners and the rest of us cannon fodder.
Then there’s the situations like your quote claims, where the reality is they spend a lot of time being used in small skirmishes to play a bit of god mode.

Spurnshadow.3678:

The BLs are imbalaced and favor the north keep. Since the east and west keeps are different as well, you need three maps for balance.

We need balance, but 3 equal shares isn’t balance in WvW.. It’s how we get snowballing matches.

We need a way to help the losing servers compensate for smaller population, a favorable map is a good way.

There’s really no fair match being played though.
Personally I’d love seeing a single instance of all 4 in play.