Guild Wars 2

Caliban.3176:

LetoII.3782:

Caliban.3176:

LetoII.3782:

I’m sorry, but WHO came to WHO’S thread to comment on WHO’S video.
Take your time, scroll up a bit, it’s pretty obvious which party is the provocateur.

If you don’t want other people to see your video’s or comment on them, don’t put them in public places like this. You probably show your video’s because you want some exposure and fame. Too bad the video you use does not help you in that regard and even worse that some people (like Aneu), who are interested in GvG, noticed who little that video means and commented on it.

See, if you guys dodged and focus changed like that in combat you’d be a heck of a force in combat… Outside of your extremely narrow and limiting M.O. that is.

Because you know how we play and what we can do? We suck so bad and yet you only have that 1 example of “wiping” us.

Yes, we know exactly how you play. To quote George Patton we “read you book” and had countered you. Or, more specifically Indo our non-Maves GM did. He’s quite brilliant at this sort of thing.

Caliban.3176:

LetoII.3782:

I’m sorry, but WHO came to WHO’S thread to comment on WHO’S video.
Take your time, scroll up a bit, it’s pretty obvious which party is the provocateur.

If you don’t want other people to see your video’s or comment on them, don’t put them in public places like this. You probably show your video’s because you want some exposure and fame. Too bad the video you use does not help you in that regard and even worse that some people (like Aneu), who are interested in GvG, noticed who little that video means and commented on it.

See, if you guys dodged and focus changed like that in combat you’d be a heck of a force in combat… Outside of your extremely narrow and limiting M.O. that is.

Caliban.3176:

btowl.7869:

Caliban.3176:

btowl.7869:

Caliban.3176:

Hoots.9564:

Caliban.3176:

I don’t think you know how veil works. It’s not about going forward all the time. Sometimes you go left and in extreme cases you might even go right and maybe, just maybe, you use a second veil and repeat the entire process.

Ah, thank you. Should I add you to my friends list along with Aneu for the authority on how Veil works?

No thanks, I’ve got plenty of friends.

@btowl
The reason the proximity to the spawnpoint matters is because even if you win like that it is not actual winning. You do not get bragging rights if you die twice and have to come back to kill a single guild with inferior numbers.

Okay, if that’s how you define it, fine. However, I didn’t see us forcing you to stay so close to our spawn point; you could’ve left at any time. But, as Aneu said, you chose to remain-does that not effectively negate your definition?

No, the way I see it, I think you could say that you wiped us but bragging about it just seems wrong. You are however free to do whatever you want.

I’m not interested in bragging and do not think I have done so here, in the past, or in the d e scription of the video I posted. It even says ‘Great fights all around’.

Wasn’t talking about you personally but to other people who appear to have a harder time refraining themselves

LetoII.3782:

We wouldn’t know would we? As I recall, after our last encounter with votf they made thoroughly sure they would never encounter us again..

LetoII.3782:

Still waiting on your vid of our encounters. You know, the one where you didn’t look utterly ineffectual like in the one WE released. ROTFL

I’m sorry, but WHO came to WHO’S thread to comment on WHO’S video.
Take your time, scroll up a bit, it’s pretty obvious which party is the provocateur.

Sorry, I think I shouldn’t say that that is bragging, it’s more like provoking.

Caliban.3176:

Hoots.9564:

Caliban.3176:

I don’t think you know how veil works. It’s not about going forward all the time. Sometimes you go left and in extreme cases you might even go right and maybe, just maybe, you use a second veil and repeat the entire process.

Ah, thank you. Should I add you to my friends list along with Aneu for the authority on how Veil works?

No thanks, I’ve got plenty of friends.

@btowl
The reason the proximity to the spawnpoint matters is because even if you win like that it is not actual winning. You do not get bragging rights if you die twice and have to come back to kill a single guild with inferior numbers.

You missed the part where only one TW needed to respawn.

Aneu.1748:

Wotah.2975:

Hoots.9564:

LetoII.3782:

Aneu.1748:

LetoII.3782:

We wouldn’t know would we? As I recall, after our last encounter with votf they made thoroughly sure they would never encounter us again..

Oh, that time when we sat in your spawn tower with the door open for almost two hours (with 30 people and we kept running out and killing u and u wouldnt come in) and then we went to your spawn supply camp where your commander re-spawned twice and it took you over 14mins to whittle down 30 people with your server constantly re-spawning…

Please tell me why we would waste our time fighting people who either run away or claim a GvG happened when it was a server vs 30 people…

Still waiting on your vid of our encounters. You know, the one where you didn’t look utterly ineffectual like in the one WE released. ROTFL

lol they have footage of it, after they reviewed it they realized they were being wiped by a handful of TW and pugs during there own timezone, that can make even some of the more hardcore guilds feel a bit tender. His post above explains this well.

Soooo you guys kill them at your spawn camp and claim victory. It takes about 5-10s to get back from full death there. Soooo that’s an accomplishment, why?

They dont seem to get it

Ohh we get it. Words are what you guys have to use against tw. Must be depressing.
Once again, grants on killing Maves, human warrior, commander and gm of tempest wolves

As the saying goes, fraps or it didn’t happen. But yeah, you guys sure did kill Maves a few times… Completely oblivious to the fact that he was bait and all, but you did get him!!

Aneu.1748:

LetoII.3782:

We wouldn’t know would we? As I recall, after our last encounter with votf they made thoroughly sure they would never encounter us again..

Oh, that time when we sat in your spawn tower with the door open for almost two hours (with 30 people and we kept running out and killing u and u wouldnt come in) and then we went to your spawn supply camp where your commander re-spawned twice and it took you over 14mins to whittle down 30 people with your server constantly re-spawning…

Please tell me why we would waste our time fighting people who either run away or claim a GvG happened when it was a server vs 30 people…

Still waiting on your vid of our encounters. You know, the one where you didn’t look utterly ineffectual like in the one WE released. ROTFL

We wouldn’t know would we? As I recall, after our last encounter with votf they made thoroughly sure they would never encounter us again..

Well, it’s nice of everyone to define “real” gvg for us. Seeing as no one is willing to SHOW us what one looks like.. I guess we shoulda had Waha have half his troops sit on the sidelines and watch or something.
But the whole Ball-Buff-Veil thing being more challenging and a better display of skill? You guys need to watch your own videos more.

SFShinigami.2015:

Jedbacca.6297:

Looks like I’ll be squaring up on TW’s maps for quite some time regardless of how many I have with me. Got to have our guild meeting in hills today on SoR map as well. SF decided that we would like to tango with TW as much as possible due to different style that we seen. We haven’t tango’d in quite some time. Thanks for the evaluation this evening and thanks for the fights out there guys. You’ll be seeing us out there on a daily basis with you, feel free to contact me daily and lemme know what map you guys are on.

Yeah I just wish we’d had more than 15 people show up to the meeting.

Well, I’m glad you guys have come around!
Don’t be too concerned about being light, if you are. Desire for an opportunity to split off into smaller groups is just as strong over here. I’m sure we can accommodate with minimal discomfort. Maybe even roaming single groups? Perish the thought.

Kreen.3925:

LetoII.3782:

I was most definitely not implying our SoR Asian forces are lacking. The comments were directed at my fellow westerners, who show as a whole far more reluctance to doing anything without instant gratification. I find the cultural differences fascinating, and I do believe once our newest friends have had a chance to acclimate themselves they will also be putting NA forces to shame.

Aren’t you a contrary individual. There you go again with an insightful point. I too am fascinated by the cultural differences. They certainly appear to be real and as someone who has played in all timezones due to real life time management they are not just restricted to the obvious east/west differences.

I see some differences between EU, NA, Oceanics and SEA although the differences between NA and SEA seem most dramatic. Of course its difficult to separate server personalities and player mixes from this but there are certainly some geographic factors. Not really surprising if you consider the real world.

Didn’t you finish our discourse a few hours ago? Consistency man, it’s not just for yogurt

Wotah.2975:

LetoII.3782:

Kreen.3925:

LetoII.3782:

VOLKON.1290:

LetoII.3782:

A perfect example right here.
Foo works diligently to provide for their faction, NA rewards them with…. naked night?

Hold the phone. Naked night occurs regardless of the score.

Did we forget the conversation subject?
All these people agreeing with me is throwing the chemestry out of whack.

in the spirit of helping each other, I think the word you are looking for there is chemistry.

I did check but could find no record of the word “chemestry” in any of my “english” dictionaries. I am the first to admit though that I am not always conversant with the latest street speak but google didn’t turn up anything either.

Tanks fore der speling corekshun professar.

You have attained cliche status, well done!

Kreen is British, it’s possible that he may have thought that you did it out of some sort of strange word we Americans have. Or it’s possible I am wrong, I mean both of us can’t be right?!

My wife is English, I’m aware some words are spelled differently, and It’s all well and good to support one’s allies.
However, correcting spelling on a forum is internationally known as admitting you have no rebuttal of substance. I.E. Noob response.
I defy anyone to flawlessly compose upon a mobile device.

Kreen.3925:

LetoII.3782:

VOLKON.1290:

LetoII.3782:

A perfect example right here.
Foo works diligently to provide for their faction, NA rewards them with…. naked night?

Hold the phone. Naked night occurs regardless of the score.

Did we forget the conversation subject?
All these people agreeing with me is throwing the chemestry out of whack.

in the spirit of helping each other, I think the word you are looking for there is chemistry.

I did check but could find no record of the word “chemestry” in any of my “english” dictionaries. I am the first to admit though that I am not always conversant with the latest street speak but google didn’t turn up anything either.

Tanks fore der speling corekshun professar.

You have attained cliche status, well done!

covenn.7165:

hex.3218:

Does the name Covenn originate from DAoC? Does it mean the same thing here?

This is not intended as an insult or anything. I am curious.

Hmm are you saying that I mean something to you? Covenn is my name and has been dating back to the release of DAOC.

I do believe he’s asking about the urban dictionary definition.

CLB, ever made someone soooo angry in a game they googled your guild to troll your webpage? It’s considered an honor, I’m sure you can understand. ’Ol boy there got the personal version. Which is epic

urek mazino.4026:

jojojoon.8607:

Azure.8412:

jojojoon.8607:

You went to sleep early, but many wvw players who enjoy the game do not sleep on their normal hours on a Friday/Saturday. I personally played until almost 4am (of course not 11 straight hours).

One of the points Kreen makes that probably isn’t happening on SOR is that, on JQ, the players from the different time zones try to help each other out by doing the little things like escorting yaks to upgrade to pass on next time zone, managing the hours to try to log in during the server’s weaker coverage hours, etc.

At least from what I have seen on the forum, SOR does their normal thing during their normal hours and then points the finger at their weaker time zone players and blames them for the reason why they’re losing. I’ve read some SOR players calling their other time zones “disorganized” or trying to kick their other time zone players out of their server just to give them a better chance of winning instead of actually trying to help them out.

I can assure you our NA do try their best to help our weaker timezones. I dont know where you got that from.

You probably don’t follow the forum all that much. There were some NA players from SOR who wanted to kick all non-NA players from NA servers just so they will have a better chance at winning. There was a huge discussion about it a few days ago.

Please stop spreading misinformation about SoR every chance you got. You seem a bit obsessed with SoR. One person suggesting a not so excellent solution to Asian population balance does not equal the lot of us wanting all Asians out of the server. Please stop exagerrating man…

My personal opinion is that JQ does have more dedicated people for the boring tasks in addition to large numbers in wvw.

Its also quite true that our forces are less organised compared to FoO in that timezone. Hopefully we will improve, I play this time slot too mostly :/

I was most definitely not implying our SoR Asian forces are lacking. The comments were directed at my fellow westerners, who show as a whole far more reluctance to doing anything without instant gratification. I find the cultural differences fascinating, and I do believe once our newest friends have had a chance to acclimate themselves they will also be putting NA forces to shame.

VOLKON.1290:

LetoII.3782:

VOLKON.1290:

LetoII.3782:

A perfect example right here.
Foo works diligently to provide for their faction, NA rewards them with…. naked night?

Hold the phone. Naked night occurs regardless of the score.

Did we forget the conversation subject?
All these people agreeing with me is throwing the chemestry out of whack.

Weren’t we talking about getting FOO naked and rubbing them down with omnomberry pies?

Touche’

VOLKON.1290:

LetoII.3782:

A perfect example right here.
Foo works diligently to provide for their faction, NA rewards them with…. naked night?

Hold the phone. Naked night occurs regardless of the score.

Did we forget the conversation subject?
All these people agreeing with me is throwing the chemestry out of whack.

VOLKON.1290:

LetoII.3782:

Kreen.3925:

I would also add that I think this also partly extends to JQ’s other coverage zones as well. I play NA and EU as well often and those timezones have groups that do the same stuff although not always with Foo’s zeal. Alot of these sorts of activities gain no wxp but it gets done anyway.

Right now these tactics are one of the major reasons JQ is winning. Sure we make full use of our stronger timezones and appear to have some better numbers at times as well but we defend and upgrade our stuff better than the other two servers and so hold onto to points for longer.

I am surprised to see you agree that other timezones on JQ essentially function as foo’s janitors.

I’m surprised that you seem to think constantly mentioning FOO as you do will somehow lead to a rift in our server. We have a ton of respect for them and are glad to have them as a part of JQ. We also fight are rectums off during our own prime times as well.

Changing the subject, naked drunk night on SOR last night was fun. HUGE fight at Lake versus what looked like the entire TW zerg (with many others tossed in). More and more JQ players started removing the armor getting into the spirit of the guild night. I of course refrained from getting naked as we needed at least a modicum of seriousness on our side. Still, bags galore, huge battles… it was a blast. I couldn’t help but wonder, however, if those on the SoR side could tell our guys were naked or do we render in armor regardless?

A perfect example right here.
Foo works diligently to provide for their faction, NA rewards them with…. naked night?

Far from desiring a rift in the JQ time zones, I resent that it is only Sunday we have the opportunity to face anything but JQ’s off hours crew. Any shame or rift occurring would a be glaringly internal issue.

Kreen.3925:

I would also add that I think this also partly extends to JQ’s other coverage zones as well. I play NA and EU as well often and those timezones have groups that do the same stuff although not always with Foo’s zeal. Alot of these sorts of activities gain no wxp but it gets done anyway.

Right now these tactics are one of the major reasons JQ is winning. Sure we make full use of our stronger timezones and appear to have some better numbers at times as well but we defend and upgrade our stuff better than the other two servers and so hold onto to points for longer.

I am surprised to see you agree that other timezones on JQ essentially function as foo’s janitors.

Oresh.4729:

LetoII.3782:

Oresh.4729:

Jedbacca.6297:

I’d be on SoR defending anything a TW member says.

this would be a full time job defending all the non sense they can speak.

As you sow, so shall you reap.

Or do we expect oxford style debate to spring forth from such clever wordsmithing?

ja no wonder you are in sor, they dont like stanger do they? keep going with your na server

I assure you, they come no stranger.
Didn’t you say something about posting nonsense earlier though?

Oresh.4729:

Jedbacca.6297:

I’d be on SoR defending anything a TW member says.

this would be a full time job defending all the non sense they can speak.

As you sow, so shall you reap.

Or do we expect oxford style debate to spring forth from such clever wordsmithing?

If I was concerned about a number, I’d still be on JQ.. Just sayin

Miss out on half the bags for a number? Nevar

Personally, I think several matches a day would be a cheap and novel solution. 3 8hour matches with say, weekly wins overall determining tier rank

Zen.8497:

I believe the guilds that won’t even try is because they know better and expect to be wiped.
Regarding Foo, it is obvious they didn’t even expected the outcome or they might have not accepted, as soon the ball was already rolling it would have been hard for them to honorably back away from these fights even if they wanted.

I work really early hours (4am est) so on the weekends I get to see FoO in action often and I can say, without reservation, they are more than a zerg. Yes, they have huge numbers. Yes, as any large guild of that size, skill level varies. Same as in any large western guild.

However, when it comes to discipline and organization, sheer points producing potential, I think they kick NA’s butt. When’s the last time you saw a group from NA do sentry duty at a camp? Sure maybe a person will watch a door, maybe player will patrol a yaks route. FoO will set up a 5 man in every camp with a response team ready to be there in 30 seconds. Heck they even have a sentry or two on each yak. Basically, a solo hunter like me can’t do jack but gank the occasional solo on their way to doing something productive and responsible. Basically, they’re an army and we’re just roaming barbarians. Any NA guild could learn a thing or two. Sure, in a wild fight we beat em.. But I think taking a keep from them would be miserable.
What they do, standing bored at an objective, takes pride. They ENJOY it, because it’s winning. And I do believe that pride would also require them to keep coming back, even if they lose, until they do beat us.
I guess we’ll find out Sunday, eh?

I thought this was solved with laurels? Do I gather and kill non players for naught?

Yes, I stand corrected. My apologies.
But it is still beside the point. The East is the one really getting the shaft here. Can we agree on that?

It’s 6am Friday for the Asians, not saturday. And they contribute massively to the top NA tiers. Dragonbrand may be the pve server. But any server without a 24/7 presence in wvw is doomed to the lower tiers.

Zen.8497:

Kreen.3925:

DeadlyRush.1620:

JQ needing 60 people to crush 10 of us after we wipe 15 JQ from the map. This is JQ SEA coverage.

Edit: BTW did you guys enjoy the Super Adventure Box we left for you?

Caption for pictures:
1) Lalala… Just kill 15 JQ. Time to collect the bags turn around OMF!(&^#!&^)(#&!)@(*

2) Yeah we going to cap vale, they dont know what hit them turn around !)(&#)(!#_)(!@

Great times guys.

I think you will find that Foo didn’t need 60 to kill 10 of you. Instead they decided to roll in with 60 to really “crush” you knowing full well it would send you off to the forums.

Hey, as long as you both had fun though, where is the problem.

Actually it is already a shown fact that Foo wipes at close to equal numbers, pretty good guild but nothing special compared to the organized N/A guilds. It is easier to play during less contested times and not facing a sizeable organized opponent.

Um.. did you mean Ascii’s video? because there is no shame in wiping to TW. As a matter of fact, SOME guilds won’t even try.

Um.. did you mean Ascii’s video? because there is no shame in wiping to TW. As a matter of fact, SOME guilds won’t even try.IMO FoO is an unqualified world class guild.

So, noone makes mention of our Asian friends?
Who have no server cluster of their own.
Who know reset happens, but are starting their days work when it happens.
It’s not really much better here in the states. I’m married to a British woman, I know this is a fad in Europe, the belief that corporations care more about us here. But the continental US covers 4 time zones. Even here, California is still at work when reset happens. Not much better at all when you think about it.

But such are the realities of the globe! I do hope Anet accommodates you.. And I also hope some of you fine guilds choose to transfer to Sanctum of Rall. Yes, blatant

P.S. No, actually McDonalds in the US isn’t better or faster either. Best service I ever had was in Staffordshire, England. The commercials and TV shows are all lies.

Enough maps to rotate a few out of play for a week or so?
SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY

Kryyg.8576:

I remember Indo and TW from JQ back when they were here. I think they were probably the spark which started our community and they were the ones who blew up our ts. Before they started using and promoting it, the JQ TS was a graveyard.

They took a lot of heat in the beginning getting everyone together and making sure everyone worked on the same page. And I know for a fact when TW said they were leaving, a lot of people were upset and a lot more people tried to get them to stay. If you ask any old school JQ who played back then if they’d want TW back, they’d all say yes in the blink of an eye. Quite frankly, SoR is very lucky to have a guild like them. Amazing players on the field and community builders off the field.

Aww <3 Stahp.
Trying to be decent enemies here. When we needle noodle, it’s not really malicious. I would expect the more experienced members of any server to know this. Without a certain atmosphere being maintained though, we’d all be having tea parties and keep/kill trading in short order.

Samhayn.2385:

But it’s not as good as it could be. It is still a pve game first with 3 real combat tacked on. It’s also zergy by design and skill lag is game stopping.

I enjoy this game and I’m not following Teso (also pve first game). I also will say that I beleave that if a game comes around that fills the three realm pvp fantasy setting in a better way you will see people leave. Anet has time to make the wvw experiance better the question is do they want to?

I have to disagree about ArenaNet being pve centered. When a game is, it shows plainly. My evidence is that the heavy imbalances are in pve. Never, literally never have I before played a game with so many classes equally able to defeat each other. There is simply no rock paper scissors in wvw, unheard of in large scale PvP. Every game claims to do this intentionally, but I’ve always felt it was a band-aid solution to the problem of pve centric classes not balancing. I.E. treating symptoms of the problem.
Yes, vanilla GW2 isn’t perfect, adding “vanilla” really puts it in perspective doesn’t it? This isn’t a final work We’re playing here. It is a rock steady foundation upon which Anet can place anything we pay them to, if we pay them. The huge problems we’ve encountered before, balance, zone stability, gold farming, all nonexistent here. Culling? Eliminated in 6 months. Skill lag? In the works. It’s hard in general to say they aren’t trying.
Now, with that said. Yes, I’ll leave when something better comes along. I’ve thrown CU some cash in hopes. But I firmly believe leaving for the next thing, because it’s the next thing is a fools errand. And one that punishes companies with long-term aspirations. And worse yet, rewards companies for doing the sell and run, ala EA.

Sounds like you should check with noodles before hitting the koolaid

Melamorte.2870:

covenn.7165:

LetoII.3782:

I, personally am a bit overwhelmed to share a tag with such a legendary figure in MMOs as is Covenn.

Too funny Letoll… I upset someone enough 10 years ago that they did this:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Covenn

that’s awesome.

i’m still trying to make my first non-infracted post.

also, what’s with the hate on cuddlestrike? really? that’s the thing that annoys you about this thread?

Heck, I just figured out how to post at all here from a mobile. I look forward to grinding my own infraction level to a respectable level.

Why hate on Cuddlestrike? Because we are all cruel predators on a cellular level. Nothing like a fluffly bunny to call forth the inner beast. (Before anyone denies this, remember we are playing a game where we cause injury and death to each other… and enjoy it. Yet we wonder why the aliens refuse to help us leave the planet)

Korbaal.6402:

covenn.7165:

Korbaal.6402:

Talk as much kitten as you like, The score tells a different story.

Scoreboard posturing went out of style months ago. Anyone with a clue knows that the weekly score is mostly due to who has the best 24-7 coverage.

Please insert another quarter and try again.

QQ’ing about coverage ‘again’. Ask yourself why? What self respecting guild would want to associate themselves with a server that insists on sending representitives like yourself and other goons from various guilds on here talking complete rubbish constantly?
And please lets not go down the posturing road shall we? 90% of the drivel you post is posturing. Dont get all defensive when sombody reciprocates your trashy comments and suggest that they ‘have no clue’. Its unwarranted. nobody buys into your sad propaganda.

I, personally am a bit overwhelmed to share a tag with such a legendary figure in MMOs as is Covenn. My only regret is one I also have with tsym moving to SoR, that the field of my opponents is reduced. Leaving us with only lesser guilds and individuals to face.

I am also quite glad JQ retains high score, as I doubt our victims would so willingly throw themselves on our sword otherwise.

Why trumpet the virtues of unreleased games? (I know this is off topic, but it’s a personal pet peeve) How many times must we read how great the next game will be? 15 years now, Ooh the next mmo, sure to avoid all the Pitfalls which plague all current offerings. Always a crock, always trumpeted by the first to leave the current thing, always months of life wasted in dreary pve only to be disappointed.

GW2 is as good as it gets. Stable, balanced, well populated even after the launch rush.. This game has the potential to go on for years, slowly getting better. And that’s the truth of the situation, from a great start this game will get better slowly. Expansions don’t get made overnight. WoW wasn’t built in a day.

But only if we, the PvP community support it. Or, it can die like WAR while we stupidly move onto the next Aion or Rift. How are veteran mmo players still fooled by pve games claiming to also have “great PvP experiences”? When has a pve centric game come anywhere near satisfying? Just what about teso besides novelty and hype even makes people mention it?

Tyaen.5148:

Burl.9567:

Who said that? We don’t hate BG at all.

I hate everybody. Especially SoR. Those guys are terrible.

Masochist, I knew it!
No wonder you do so much camp patrolling

wish.3102:

kefro.9312:

JQ needs to lose some guilds … this is getting boring… i fear for the future of gw2, im not seeing a expansion working on gw2 any more…

My guild has no particular attachment to JQ, we transferred here when JQ was losing because we play odd hours sometimes and we were looking for people to fight 24/7, so we had to move to t1 or 2. (And those JQ scrubs didn’t even pay us anything! what jerks) If the fight is against JQ because no one else wants to play anymore we can roll with that. It just annoys me when I see people spreading obvious falsehoods, so I troll here a lot in defense of random things, and I find the need to comment on this.

Do you really think JQ needs to lose people for your server to be competitive? It’s fine if you want to think that, but who is going to pay the gold for the transfers? Tell you what, pay the gold for us and my 7 person guild will join your server. Unless it’s SOS, I don’t like them for reasons I won’t go into. Any of the other tier 1-2 servers are fine though. Want people off JQ? I’ll give you a chance to put your money where your mouth is and recruit a hardcore WvWer and his alt account and his 5 friends.

But honestly I do kind of agree with you. If the demotivation I see in SOS and SOR continues WvW won’t be fun anymore unless you’re fighting against JQ with an organized WvW guild that has numbers behind it. I for one want people to fight with and against at most times of day because my play time is strange and jumps around. I think what needs to happen is SOR SOS and BG and whoever else is in T2 and wants to be T1 needs to recruit and offer the gold for transfers, rather then just complain JQ has them beat and give up.

This offer is for anyone really, give us the gold and we’ll leave, otherwise, stop complaining about it.

We might consider helping a guild of stature move for the sake of balance.
Random players who offer no metric of their worth however…

Don’t accept random group invites if you’re the sensitive type?

Maybe revel in the idea people are upset enough to go to efforts to flame?

I personally prefer the latter.

LittleMusing.8257:

Considering the outmanned buff on JQBL just yesterday afternoon my time, which would be about night to late night for NA, I guess people are taking breaks in between, rather than the fabled 24 hour coverage.

There any score update? Don’t wanna go back in-game just after a BSOD.

There is a reason JQBL had the outmanned buff last night..
It had nothing to do with your population numbers.

Hint: Your Garrison turned color