As true as Odin’s spear flies,
There is nowhere to hide.
I have never understood what spawn camping had to do with video game ‘honor’. There are 3 Borderlands and EB, nobody in this game can spawn camp me as long as that’s true. Treat spawn campers the same way you would treat WvW if you were severely outmanned. Do something else. Not necessarily something other than WvW, but something other than whatever is going on at one particular spawn (although thanks to this match-up I’m getting alot of alt leveling and dungeon runs in.)
so if you’re severely outmanned and being spawncamped at all exits on all maps?
Just because you enjoy PvP doesn’t mean everyone does.
that wasn’t exactly what i was implying. i’m merely going on what every other game is like that i’ve played.
in almost every(actually every) mmorpg i’ve played PvE exists for 2 major things:
farming gold to buy gear or skill scrolls, or farming bosses around the game world for little perks that make you slightly better at pvp.
right now as a level 80 with 90% exotics(only thing left being a few trinkets, which wouldn’t add much to my damage output or reduction) i’m wondering what it is. sure, karma trains have a use: for a legendary. but considering legendaries are for animations only(yes, they have the same stats) i’m wondering why bother with pve at all? to max my crafting? for what i’m already level 80 and it’s more expensive to craft it than to buy it. with 12g to my name i have almost everything I need, save for 1-2 weapon skins. somebody help me out here?
@NastyPiggy
About the AR vs GoM match up, I think it was more about you guys losing players then us gaining! :P
save that for another thread so we can argue why you outnumbered us there.
OTHER NEWS:
it was quite funny seeing Kaineng place a ram in the middle of a path between our spawn and sunnyhill….and seeing them actually build it was..lol. and when they couldn’t get the gate down, 40 more showed up and they trebbed it from garrison. Good job? GOM has done dumb sieges before but nothing like that. on a tower at least >_>
it is now obvious why you are winning.
WM has really impressed me. They are extremely coordinated and focused and a huge asset to us. Incredibly polite to boot. Haven’t rolled with RE too much, or DE since they split off from SE for that matter so for them, I can’t say. But WM is notbad.jpg.
Looks like PRO is leaving DR at reset. Let it be a reminder about the transfer cycle… it happens to everyone. Nothing to complain or gloat about. It just is. Just fight the good fight one tower at a time and you will have your 15 minutes of fame.
nothing to complain about? why do you think we’re not in t2 dude? no guilds come to GOM. at least not nearly enough to make a difference. i’m getting zerg’d so often that i’d rather just alt f4 out when downed. i won’t give a group who i have no chance against the luxury of a finisher
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Kormak and the crazy cat guardswoman
Today I was in Divinity’s Reach. New Guild stationed me there for some reason. Seraph guards always came and bothered me.
“Um, sir?” The guardswoman approached me timidly.
“What?” I said, stopping long enough to get a good look at her.
She kept her hand on the hilt of her blade the whole time.
“C-could you stop throwing p-paint grenades everywhere? You’re scaring the m-merchants.”
“A stuttering guardswoman! Cute. Don’t tell me, Logan sends the newest recruit that likes cats and now he’s mad because he doesn’t like the color I’m painting his stable.” I said, snarling and throwing another paint grenade at the wall.
“Yes, I love cats. It’s my mission to pet every cat but that has nothing to do wi-”
“Do you also love to run?” I asked, cutting her off.
The guardswoman was looking off into oblivion.
“Miss?”
“I’m sorry I’m thinking about cats again!”
I noticed that I had one last magenta paint grenade and lobbed it right at her helmet.
“No cats here lady. I’m a splatter painter!”
After I threw the magenta grenade, I started a brief victory dance then went back to my work. After a few more barrages my work was finished, and a gigantic depiction of Zhaitan was on the wall of Logan’s stable. People would walk by with confused looks on their faces, while I stood there proud of my work.
I am enjoying the read. Was wondering if there was consistency there for a moment but it’s all flowing together nicely when you keep reading
there really isn’t meant to be consistency to be honest lol. the stories are meant to be as random and lulzy as the situations i get into in game xD
you worked hard huh. so how recent are these transfers? not one of you is answering that. the funny thing is i was rooting for Kaineng when GOM was in t2, you now see what awaits you. you will be down here with us in due time. gloat now while you can. and now HOD and us will be fighting to stay in this tier. i don’t understand why the recent-ness of the transfers is such a difficult question to answer. if it’s recent, you didn’t work hard at all. if it’s been a while, good job. i give it 2 weeks at most.
This is the score BEFORE WM and the NEO alliance fully made it to kaineng.
http://mos.millenium.org/matchups/history/14#na
And this is the week that they started moving (not all)
http://mos.millenium.org/matchups/history/15#na
And the score you are seeing after reset (aka this match) is the time when WM actually start pouring all their efforts into the battle.
Kaineng earned its ticket up to T7, before their arrival, and this credit should be acknowledged to all who didn’t see the full time line.
everyone complains about transfers being broken until it’s their server that gets the transfers. what you’re saying, showing, and doing exemplifies this point. GOM acted this way as well. as you move up in tiers, you’ll start to do worse and worse. and people will leave. this is what happened to us, it will happen to you. unless of course human nature suddenly changes for the better and all your transfers stay.
[The point is, tone down the anti-newcomer rhetoric. Tone down the chest-pumping and bigotry against WM, RE, and company. It’s disrespectful, hateful, and simply rude.]
I for one has never said that we do not welcome them, heck, I even wrote a welcome letter to WM, and I’m with rather good relationship with SE/DE.
THE POINT IS to give credits where it’s due. At current, all I’m seeing is that people are giving all the credits to all these new comer, and all those old Kaineng are left in the shadows. They deserve part of that credit, if not, most of that credit, as Kaineng fought hard before they came, and earned its right to go up to Tier 7.
All these negative talk about how WvW in this tier is so boring because of them here, and all the comment saying Kaineng are going up because of these new comers (I admit to certain degree, it does makes a different)
And this is rather unfair for those old Kaineng who really fought hard to this tier to get all these negative comments, as if we fought so hard for nothing. That is the part where I’m upset about. It’s not that I’m chest pumping, it’s not that I dislike them coming, it is the community right now that are saying all these negative things to Kaineng that pisses me off.
KAINENG WORKED HARD TO GET UP A TIER NOT JUST TO GET COMMENTS LIKE THESE.
you worked hard huh. so how recent are these transfers? not one of you is answering that. the funny thing is i was rooting for Kaineng when GOM was in t2, you now see what awaits you. you will be down here with us in due time. gloat now while you can. and now HOD and us will be fighting to stay in this tier. i don’t understand why the recent-ness of the transfers is such a difficult question to answer. if it’s recent, you didn’t work hard at all. if it’s been a while, good job. i give it 2 weeks at most.
i honestly get pleasantly surprised when i see a dual pistol tank engineer. and that’s almost never.
it’s Nerf…or nothin.
That may be. You weren’t at Longview the other night. Took us around 2 hrs to take it, and I would think that this shows HoD’s skill at stalling. I mention HoD because I really haven’t fought GoM yet.
why don’t you just ask one of the other 900 Kain’s in our borderland about us then. but notice i was calling you condescending when you were referring to HOD and not us.
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These things take time, Dhampyr. Be patient. Meanwhile, why don’t we have more good fights in the HoD BL.
‘good’ lol. even as a GOM i’d agree that’s condescending.
Well from what i’ve read of this post it seems kain is whooping everyone’s butts… (I wouldn’t know for sure though because I won’t be back on GW2 till the end of January due to computer problems) But cmon GoM, are you really going to start whining because someone else starts steam-rolling you? When you out manned everyone else for the past few weeks? That really REALLY annoys me. HoD gets out manned pretty much every week but we still stay, and its pretty fair seeing as how the majority of your players lack any skill ^-^ Heck i’ve seen 5 people take down 25 of you at once. Please any kain players out there, squash GoM for us, and any HoD people reading this, keep up the fight! I’m so annoyed i’m not there to help out, but i will be there soon!
i think you were told(HOD) 9421 times that those were bandwagons. the proof is in the scores. can it.
sorry Lightsbane.9012 does that mean you think a cap should be higher or lower for T7? T8?
sorry kreese it doesn’t mean anything but what i said.
http://mos.millenium.org/matchups#NA
all the other matchups, even tier 8 matchups, are much more balanced than this. the tier 1 matches are almost exponentially more balanced. no 130k to 11k to 8k. almost every other matchup has all 3 servers at about the 40k or over.
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what number do you think a normal T7 or T8 server can legitimately field? not being snarkey actually asking
I’m thinking at our peak (friday server reset) we have around 200~250 so if we divide that by 4 maps we get 50-60ish
GoM is higher than us probably can do 75 a mapso if you want to say 75 a map for T7 and 50 a map for T8 with the priority queue that would seem reasonable but we all know Kaineng has far more than T7 or T8 WvW pop so you would have to put up with a queue for a few weeks
I just really want the overrunning of established communities by large amounts of server transfers to stop
lately we’ve had maybe 30 in just one map. combine that with culling issues and a force that outnumbers that at least 2:1 and it’s nothing.
bump, because it looks like only art threads get noticed.
what’s going on in this forum isn’t something i can say here, but we all know what it is. same people repeating the same opinions. of course you disagree with what both GOM and HOD are saying about what’s goign on on Kaineng, and why shouldn’t you? your server is now winning and it isn’t used to winning. of course why should we have expected otherwise? i remember the first time Kaineng won their kitten bracket, was WM or DE around then? if they were, why aren’t you higher tier’d? why are we fighting you? if they’re such an asset like you’re saying(kind of like totenreich was an asset to GOM, aka don’t hold your breath Kaineng) why weren’t these numbers around in november? why aren’t our numbers around now? when you can answer those questions instead of just patting yourselves on the back we’ll have a real discussion.
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So far the only strategy I’ve seen Kaineng practicing is that if our 4 wipe your 10, you return with 30. It’s no wonder your new transfers weren’t succeeding on their previous servers and moved south looking for easier fights.
I can say the same thing about GoM… except 1 wipes 3, you bring 20. Stay mad my friend.
funny that you mention that! because that zerg is on another server. again.
okay, adjust balancing for sigils, and nerf by 30% but that’s okay since kits take my weapon stats…oh wait
I dont think servers were ever advertised as being NA only or anything along those lines. They only showed the location of server for those whose connections prevented them to play elsewhere. I know some servers feature players from multiple countries, like groups of players from Australia aswell as North American servers. Theres nothing stopping people from playing on an EU server for instance. Apparently alot of French Canadians are playing on an EU server giving them a massive advantage aswell so it goes both ways. Maybe switch to a server from a different time zone yourself.
he said north american servers were advertised as north american, and..they are.
I’d rather see the Mesmer utilise more illusionary weapon skills like Greatsword skill 2. Maybe they could have something like a mainhand shield with skill 1 a sort of illusionary shield thrown like a discus, skill 2 an AoE defend with clone generation and skill 3 a targeted AoE attack. Skill 1 could be the opposite of Greatsword skill 1, where the closer you are the greater your damage output.
yeah i like this. move pistol to main hand and give us a dagger offhand.
the dagger OH would use ranger’s offhand skills(illusionary swashbuckler, summon an illusion to poison your foe and evade attacks) mirror talon(throw your dagger, crippling and bleeding the first target, normal damage the next 2 targets)
Mesmer only has one signet worth getting :-\ signet of malice or something. it increases cond damage or whatever.
something occurred to me. while our phantasmal berserker can’t hit obstructed things, elementalist’s meteor shower, dragon claw, whatever can hit BEHIND tower walls! i’m trying not to believe that anet plays favorites, but considering that and how my engineer’s been nerfed..
You must be imagining grenades catching on your feet or ledges. Surely they wouldn’t smash down grenades 30% if they had issues like that. Surely such heavy-handed nerfing is reserved for perfect skills that are unabashedly beyond their place. And of course the non-impressive DPS of other skills is just a matter of bad perception too, since they would not lower the only impressive DPS so much; in such a case they would surely strengthen the less-used skills and not put on players the burden of losing a significant amount of power they spent so much time and effort accumulating.
i’m serious. you’ve never stood on the ledge of a tower in wvw trying to hit a ram user or something and have the nades hit near your feet?
yeah man it’s pretty nice. tossing a grenade barrage at a group of enemies and seeing it hit your feet instead. funny how a 7 foot charr does that.
brb, gonna give GOM the color that indicates they’re moving up, and then troll them with a zerg server.
I’m not being dismissive. When I say the week is yet young, I mean that HoD hasn’t had a chance to shine. I was up their northern BL last night, and I saw what was going on. If I were HoD, there isn’t much I could do about it. As to GoM, the same thing applies. I’m sure there are good players on both servers, but they need numbers they haven’t got. I was just making an observation after all, but perhaps a singular viewpoint from Kaineng is not welcome here….
not when it’s considered the viewpoint. i recommend wording replies like this so they’re not degrading to 2/3 of the servers
I see the sniping has already started. Too bad. I’m not too impressed by what I’ve seen from HoD of GoM, but the week is yet young… BTW, to the HoD thief in the BL JP: I went in there knowing what might happen. I was not disappointed.
wow. okay kid. i’m sorry you’re used to zerging and won’t be impressed by anything more than 50 invaders everywhere
So, shall GoM and HoD come to an agreement of alliance? XD
only chance we got it seems.
lets have fun, i guess. although i’m wondering why kaineng isn’t in a higher tier if they have this kind of force.
Yeah, I’ve been wondering the same thing myself over the past hour. From what I have read so far it sounds like a couple tier 1 guilds transferred to Kaineng in order to “train”.
Not sure what the full story is yet.
well that’s just fabulous. meanwhile, this training is completely skewing the gameplay
Yeah, not much fun for us either. Some of the more massive guilds take up all the space in the borderland queue’s and leaves our smaller guilds to either wait and fight over the scraps or just go to PvE. I hate PvE, so I wish Arenanet would just bump us up or something. Oh well…
i guess your numbers are just world transfers like ours were last week.
lets have fun, i guess. although i’m wondering why kaineng isn’t in a higher tier if they have this kind of force.
but you’ll never take…our shotgun!
no but seriously, if your’e going to nerf them anet, at least let us throw them overhand so they don’t blow up 1 foot in front of me as the result of a ledge of a tower 1/6th the height of my character.
a (hopefully) inspirational message:
Borlis Pass is getting stomped in their tier to a degree that I can’t even describe. Devona’s appears to own that tier, (bp will cap out around 110k) that means both HOD and SF did ~40k better than them. This is good news for GOM because it’s an ‘i told you so’ and good news for SF and HOD because even being in t7 you’re better than BP.
Kormak the delivery Charr
After Lola spooked me, I was able to finish my work and we went and had a drink together. I can honestly say that the ale these humans drink is weak, but it is quite fun watching a Sylvari get drunk. Everything has a right to grow, except when Sylvari drink it. Unfortunately, the Crow’s Nest didn’t have any Citadel Scotch, so I was the designated charr transport.
Lola was passed out drunk from all the Unidentified Ale that she had, and started talking about an angry asura she met a while ago.
“Kormak, when did I give you distortion?” Lola asked, then hiccuped.
“Shut up and climb on. I’ll get you home.” I said, getting on my paws letting her climb on my back. “Don’t get used to this.”
“Ah, a charrtlem-men!”
“I said shut up. Just get up here and hang on.”
She got on my back and I started towards her house, making sure to avoid the fact that there was someone riding me. She used to do this to me as a cub and I hated it. Luckily her house was only a few blocks away.
“Hey, Kormak.” Said an unfamiliar voice.
I stopped suddenly, looking around to see where it came from, but found nothing.
“Huh, who?” I asked the voice.
“It’s Lethara you idiot.”
“Oh, no time for you right now midget. Can’t you see I’m making a delivery?” I tossed my Elixir S on the ground, creating a stealth bubble for myself and Lola long enough to get away from Lethara.
Finally I arrived at Lola’s manor, so I let myself in and set her on the nearest chair.
“Lola, no more of this, ay? It’s pretty embarassing!” I said, then laughed.
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i really hated how every order companion was killed off. Tybalt was incredibly alive for a right-hand man character. i don’t remember the sylvari girl’s name for the priory but she was also very interesting.
GoM- Why you have so many people? T.T
Is it just me, or does GoM have far more players this week than they did during last week’s match? :-/
(Not griping GoM! Just observing!
)
yeah, you’re outnumbered. but considering i saw both SF teams and HOD teams put rams on SM walls i think being outnumber isn’t your only problem.
Oh, don’t even get me started on the dingbats on our server who have been building rams on the walls. A little part of me dies inside every time I see this. Such a waste of perfectly good plans and supply.
I believe that pve guys getting interested in wvw is a good thing, that may have been the case in there… dont bash them without explaining why it wont work, we, who have been playing since start need to do a lot of explaining of tactics and zerg.
what benefit does it give me to explain to an enemy server why rams don’t work on walls?
GoM- Why you have so many people? T.T
Is it just me, or does GoM have far more players this week than they did during last week’s match? :-/
(Not griping GoM! Just observing!
)
yeah, you’re outnumbered. but considering i saw both SF teams and HOD teams put rams on SM walls i think being outnumber isn’t your only problem.
(Hope you don’t mind my thoughts interrupting your story,
but I’m curious to know if you have any image references for how your characters look? You’ve done a great job characterizing them, and I might like to do a sketch or two of your story! I think it would be fun!)
that sounds really interesting actually. Kormak looks…lol, i’ll find a file. as for the other characters, those are just emulations of people i’ve met.
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bumping. needs to be addressed.
bump, more coming soon.
and to the SF necro who can’t fight on her own, grow a pair.
hi, GOM here. not sure what you’re trying to accomplish setting up a ram on SM walls, SF.
How exactly do you justify rolling an engineer without elixir r in your kit. every time I pug and there’s another engineer in my dungeon group, he neglects to have elixir r. in fact, I’m the only engineer i’ve actually seen use the throw skill. it’s a stun break, it refills your endurance! Its AN AOE REVIVE THATS A NORMAL UTILITY SKILL. really. honestly. it was so rediculously overpowered they had to nerf it from 85 seconds to 120 seconds and it’s STILL rediculously amazing.
also, I cant count the times that i’ve used it, had the ally survive downed tanking mobs long enough for me to get over to him and frenzyrez his face. (another reason you should ALSO have elixir u, quickness effects ressurection time)tl:dr. wtf engis, y u no elixir r
it does sound good, unfortunately i’m not a support engi and don’t care about such things
there are alot of us on HoD re-considering WvW right now
no fault of GoM or Kaineng they are doing well and I’m happy for them but getting
stuck in the bottom of T7 for the foreseeable future…
we are better off running fractals, leveling alts, and helping the new players that just joined our server during the holidayHoD
0 wins 13 losses and still where we call home
it should be a sobering thought that this is one of the few times GOM has had consistent wins.
mortar needs nothing but for the traits paired with it to work
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‘warmphotos’ loool. such an epically related name.
YEAAAAAAH quaggans. i like quaggans.
since i know i’m not supposed to uh, you know, be able to invite enemy players in Wv3, i thought i’d point out that i was able to invite a sorrow’s furnace player simply by clicking on them and accessing the party tab(P)
PS: this isn’t a hack, my guild mate just tried it to see if it would work, and then so did i. is this REALLY supposed to happen, Anet?
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