“No one has ever said it would be easy to make an armor set.”
Actually someone did “I actually think this is the best practical solution. A single designer could probably pump out at least a ‘new’ converted armor set per week."
Yes and we all know of course that ‘easy’ directly relates to ‘time needed’. I could give you the most easiest task there is in the world but it could take ages to do it or I could give you the most annoying and mind destroying thing to do that is over within an hour.
Currently a full set of armor takes 9 months. An outfit, much less. They put out a new outfit every few months.
Why does it take so much less time to do an outfit? That’s the question you should ask. And the answer was basically: “because armor needs to be adjusted for every gender and race. And because armor needs 3 different armor types. And because of reasons we can’t explain to you.”
The first one does not make any sense. The second problem could be avoided through only making those armor sets where style and connection points would fit and through only having one appearance across all available armor types.
Are you telling me that I am wrong?
So if they can create an outfit in a few months and convert it to armor a week later then that’s far faster than 9 months, and therefore easy to create armor.
I said it would be faster. Way faster than completely create an armor from scratch since we already have a good amount of work done.
….We were told but you don’t believe them, the reasons stated were wrong…..
I told you exactly why the given reasons were wrong. If you just want to believe stuff that does not make any sense it’s your own decision. But don’t blame me for not accepting it.
Basically you’re calling them liars or incompetent when you say that the reasons given as to why it takes so long are incorrect. …..
I told you exactly that I think that this was either a standard answer that you would get from any company that just wants to answer an annoying generic question. Call that lying if you want.
I also told you that the question that was asked was probably to generic and does not apply to the very specific question I would’ve asked.
I also wrote numerous times that I think it’s not a technical problem but something that the design team does not want to see implemented, for whatever reasons.
Anyways I am getting bored writing always the same things.
All boils down to are you willing to leave all the skins you have up untill they start doing this in the dust?
Since this will create a whole new type of armor skins that wont be able to be mix and matched with the older pieces? ( They have stated that medium light and heavy dont have the same riging points so cant be mix and matched we got no clue if the cut up outfit armor pieces will have the same riging points as any of them either, I would guess 1 if we are lucky.)
I asked friends and the 80% less healing ones I just started activated the challenge mote the people loading in after dident recive the buff so no harm there.
seriously yet again DISAPPOINTED !! only one reason to even do this is so it does not cost 200 gems from the story and hope maybe you might get a mastery point out of it . otherwise 2 seconds of non playable stuff yet again from anet and ncsoft . as well as another reason to not even buy the so called new pack if it even comes out at all . as i am sure yet again anet will not be doing any game upgrades at all with the new pack . things like SLI support or crossfire with dx11 and 12 . unlike the new games that are coming out . heck this game probably will not even be able to use the new Ryzen Ripper on it at all even will be honestly shocked if it did .
Well considering the people screamed we want content not features when hot released. I dubt anet would keep focusing on sli support or crossfire or even dx11 or 12 you know features the thing we yelled at them the last time for implementing, since thats not content the people want to play.
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We get it you want the game upgraded, you stated so countless times before.
Why you would even think a living story episode would deliver that is kinda hard to understand to be honest.
Possibly. Just as our view on what constitutes an achievement or entitlement in this case. And about how much those achievements are worth (or not).
Interests do change. Your interests in game content will progress alongside your progress as a player if you continue to play any game for a longer period of time.
I have seen people go from casual PvE to semi-hardcore PvP, have seen them move from dungeons mostly to exclusivelily running WvW. Even full attitudes towards playing casually or playing more “hardcore” have changed.
Are they the majority? No, not exactly. It is still common enough, especially with players who hadn’t matured yet when they started playing. Or even with those who simply picked up such a game for the first time and had no clue what they liked.
To me, the part about “Entitlement vs. Achievement” means players are complaining about an exclusion they decided to enforce on themselves. They do not enjoy the content they would have to run, totally understandable to me. But they aren’t content with others having something they do not, thus they complain about it on the forums. Something I do not understand what so ever.
If legendary armor at least gave you an advantage over ascended items rather than just a bit of convenience and mostly the prestige. I’d get it then. But the way it is right now, most players sound like, I apologize, spoiled brats to me.
I’d certainly prefer special items to remain special myself even if that means I will most likely never acquire them personally.
Just becouse the hardcore feel like legendary armor gives nothing since they never change from berserker or viper dont mean that casual pve or wvwer would use the functionality with vigor.
The casual pvers would happily switch their viper armor to rabid/dire for example if they just want some more toughness to survive a personal story or group event in the open world.
Then go back to mix of viper/rabid untill they feel as tough as they need to.
Maybe even try out power spec to see if they like that before investing in runes for it.
Wvw would feel a huge quality of life boost by just having to carry runes instead of whole armor sets.
Oh here I thought we were talking about dungeons and fractals my bad.
Will for sure always be sure to become party leader in my own lfg so it wont be abused by anyone else for sure.
+ bringing 2 friends will solve the kicking issue aswell.
OP your whole problem can be prevented by bringing 1 friend so your not the sole person searching.
It sounded like you wanted a even more restrictive party leader system then what we had before .
Were you accept people or reject them before they even get into you party.
But after they introduced the lfg anyone could put up their lfg and get it filled.
Funny how that works for some other type of content that anyone can put up their lfg but for some reason do not want to.
Yes anyone can put up their lfg but will it be successful, highly unlikely.
5 bear bow rangers could complete any dungeon path but 10 bear bow rangers cant complete a raid now can they?
Well, maddoctor is right. I started shortly after release way before the introduction of the LFG and it was very difficult to find people via chat or a specific site somebody had implemented to bring dungeon runners together. There were very very very few people that ran dungeons besides speed runners & their guilds.
Yes it was harder then sure since people dident want to use the external site. (www.gw2lfg.com if i remember right)
But after they introduced the lfg anyone could put up their lfg and get it filled.
More raid bosses may lower the time gate, but the time you need to spend raiding each week will go up in return.
Yes, if you want to obtain something faster, you need to spend more time each day on it. Nothing special about it – almost everything in this game works that way.
Indeed, but currently the 13 bosses can be handled by the time budget of a casual, it will get harder as more bosses are added. Not that I expect any new raid before expansion 2.
But for the casual that finds a raid boss that’s just really hard for them do, more bosses means they get more % of the available LI each day.
Considering there are titles for things that require no skill at all, it’s not reasonable to say that if there is a title for getting all of the HoT legendary armor, than the core legendary weapons and the HoT legendary weapons each get their own title.
Why not tho they take just as much dedication to make/farm for as the armor tho and if someone want to buy said title with their credit card ( talking about the one for all core legendaries) how is that any diffrent then the guy who buy raid kills to get their armors?
Not sure what you’re getting at here. What point are you trying to make? Because you seem to think I’m against weapons getting titles based on what impression I get from the post. I’m not. So maybe I’m misunderstanding what point you’re trying to make?
Well maybe I read it wrong but saying it’s not reasonable to say that if there is a title for getting all of the HoT legendary armor, than the core legendary weapons and the HoT legendary weapons each get their own title.
Sure sound like you say legendary armor should get a title but weapons should not.
Oops. Meant to say if it IS reasonable for HoT legendary armor to get a title, then the core weapons and HoT weapons are reasonable candidates for getting titles.
yes it is reasonable to request titles for other legendaries, but this is the fractals, dungeons and raids subforum, so the wrong place to ask for that, since those have nothing to do with those instances.
Oh but you are wrong legendary weapons are tied to dungeons so its fine to ask for it here.
Yea usualy filled up pretty quick thats why you dident see em.
Since alot of people dident want to run 4 warrios and a mesmer only
Personaly ran guardian warrior, ranger as my daily dungeon guys.
did you even recive the instant email?
If you dident you ticket was never recived.
I hope you dident use the in game report a bug that wont get you an answer.
On a seperate, but unrelated note, I always focused on PvP and rarely did much PvE content in GW2. So I was wondering about the raids, I enjoy playing support. Would a tablet rev be in demand there? Or a healing/support guardian? If neither of those, are Mesmers useful in raids? If none of those either, I guess I have my necro for dps to fall back on (unless that’s bad too). Is there a ridiculous gear req for joining a decent guild?
You always wany 1 mesmer tank and another mesmer for second group support buffs.
However the gear/runse and sigils are pretty expensive to get.
So I never did the raids during the time they were bugged three weeks ago. But I still received an ascended chest just now. Usually I do full raid clears with my guild on Monday and all the bosses dropped their loot for me. After a patch later on that week the raid bosses stopped dropping loot for a while, but since I didn’t raid while the bug was active it didn’t affect me. It was quickly fixed before the next weekly raid reset. So I got a free ascended armor chest which is pretty nice although I don’t think it was intentional?
Well then your lucky mate since some of us who did raid havent even got ours yet.
I can’t recall ever playing a game where, when you died (essentially when you failed in some way), you still automatically were given every bit of the loot you would have acquired if you stayed alive, contributed to the fight, got ressed by a comrade, or used other mechanics (like WP) to rejoin the battle.
In World of Warcraft, if you fail to loot a creature which you have legitimate loot rights over, the game automatically mails you the loot. It doesn’t matter how you fail to loot it: Death, disconnection, negligence; every single bit of loot you earned is mailed to you.
Defending the fact that quick-loot doesn’t work while defeated is suggesting that, “Well, you had loot rights, but they’ve been revoked temporarily.”
Yes I’m warrior for my first play through. Mainly cause of 200ms ping and people claim its easier to start with and I usually go for the warrior melee build. Didnt want to add that I’m a warrior since you experts would know if I mention the weapons and skills^^
@Mogsterfortytwo. Yeah I’m probably just spoiled from 3 years on another game where you can use all of your 1000 skills in 1 match based on the situation and also 1 character build with all skills. I must get used to GW2 which are more about specific builds and lots of characters.
I just often find myself in the wrong combat situation with the wrong weapons.
@Just a flesh wound: I do that sometimes but then I miss my GS. I like to use 2x AXES and swop to GS. Then my rotation feels complete. But in most game modes speed helps so much then I want to use WH for speed but I loose the number 4 and 5 skills if I would’ve used another weapon. PVE I can get pass it at least.
For PVP then I should just get used to fighting ranged kiters with a Hammer and a GS and 200ms 0_o. I just cant get into the Mace and shield and bow builds but I need that bow probably for most ranged types? maybe the GS sucks in PVP?? and I should use a melee set like hammer and swop to Bow or Gun for those kiters.
You dont have to do the recommended mate.
If you want the reward do em.
Never had problem to get a group for either solid ocean or aquatic ruins so unsure why you have problems
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Solid ocean could use a rework it dont have to go away, but dont expect them to rework a underwater fractal how much love have underwater got since release?
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They already streamlined it so you dont have to do t1+t2+t3 and then t4 to get all the rewards, asking for more like this post is greedy in my oppinion.
Could use some people on eu that also need to finish up Garen’s Defense, Loonaloo’s Paycheck, Shana’s Ambition, Fiona’s Stockpile and Flinnz’s Retirement
Also need to kill the Anomalie in Ganderan fields.
if you’re going for a legendary, you must do some things you might not enjoy.
Not sure why.
It should be obvious … the game is not designed around an individual’s wants.
Just because the game is not designed around each person’s wants does not equate to people must do things they don’t enjoy. An alternative to forcing players to do things they don’t want is for the devs to create choices in the system, for instance.
This theme is reoccurring with you. I frankly disagree with that statement you make, not because it’s my opinion, but because I understand GW2 isn’t philanthropy. If you spend time in a game, you ARE limited by the avenues that the devs give you to ‘win’ it. If you don’t like those avenues, then the reality is that you are SOL. There is no democracy here, no one asked us how we would like to earn legendaries. Is that bad? Maybe, but that’s not our call. You get the game the finite number of devs in a finite amount of time can deliver.
Besides … You exactly define what playing an MMO is all about. There are things you must do to earn certain rewards. I mean, what any particular players wants to do is completely irrelevant to how the game is designed. It’s absolutely ridiculous to imply someone MUST get a legendary in the first place. It’s a luxury item. So no, no one MUST do masteries for legendaries because legendaries aren’t MUST have items. In addition, that argument fails on another level … you can also make a first gen legendary. Those ones don’t require masteries.
For years after GW2 launched people talked about Legendary Armor. No one knew how it would be implemented. Look who gets it now that it’s here! It’s the demographic that bucked the system and asked for what they wanted, a type of content that was never even on the radar for this game. I guess the status quo is not as sacrosanct as you want it to be.
Yes time to ask for a fishing system and thats where gen 2 legendary armor components will drop.
Revert some of the recipe changes, reduce/change other (like Legendary insignia[gossamar/gold ingot/silver ingot could be used here to give it a market too])
Make those changes and see if the source acquisition methods need to be changed. If so try organically fixing it by increasing the chance to yield and yield amount from salvaging first then if all else fails add nodes as a last resort.
Im still stacking up silver and gold for when we get electrium mate so dont go and put that into another recipe
Like I said, it’s not insurmountable. I will still keep gathering and I am not annoyed by it. I just think it might be nice to get some ability to build up the same effect in PvE. You know, not leech off our WvW players’ success, but work on it ourselves. I’m not assuming ANet will implement something like that, but I would welcome it.
I would like to point out that, since I mentioned, “entitled,” previously in this thread, this is not an example of being entitled and, if this is your view on the matter, I consider your take to be quite reasonable. Do take note that others, specifically those who received the comments about entitlement, did not express views even close to your own very reasonable stance.
And yes, the WvW system before megaservers is for me a perfectly reasonable argument against the PvE effect for Power of the Mists. The fact that is was built up in WvW, however, isn’t. The fact that it was intended to bring in people to WvW but failed, also isn’t. You can intent for something, but it will usually take on a life of its own after you release it into the world. And that’s what it ultimately is: not what you intend it to be, but what it comes to mean for the people who use/are affected by it.
Of course another thing that can, and does, happen when a system does not achieve its intent is that the producer changes it to be more in line with that intent. MMOs are constantly changing in order to either adapt the vision behind the game to the realities of the market/player base, or to keep focus on that vision as the game drifts away.
Personally I think that now was the worst possible time to remove the gathering buff. At a time when PvEers are being drawn into WvW in numbers I havent seen since the first months post launch, where they would be contributing to the buff to a degree not seen in years, it gets removed?
Odd.
Might be the reason mate, since to many would contribute the buff would break the game economy by making us get 10 strikes on each node
Haven’t played in a very long time. Probably stopped playing maybe a few months after Heart of Thorns release. How’s the game changed since then? Better? Worse?
It’s better in some areas and still lagging behind in others but overall the support for rewards has grown now which is what I’ve had a problem with personally. Additionally there are better armor sets and better chances at getting those armor sets for open world players finally.
Not sure what you had issue with it’s best to elaborate.
Can you expalin the boldend part, I havent seen any better armor sets in pve.
Some have suggested that we need to see all this loot we get in order to feel some sense of satisfaction. Personally, I’d be satisfied if all my luck was auto-consumed, all rares and below auto-salvaged, auto-deposited and auto-compacted. I’m perfectly happy seeing the loot flash by on the right side of the screen.
Edit: And I’ve suggested as much in the QoL suggestions thread, before anyone suggests it.
There is actually a genre that works like that sounds like clicker games would be right up your alley.
I’m genuinely mystified by this reply. I mean, I just don’t know if it’s meant to be helpful, comedic or sarcastic. I’m fine with any of those. I just don’t know which you’re going for.
Oh mate wasent suposed to be helpful depending on your mood its either comedic or sarcastic tho
Just sounded on your earlier post that you just want everything automated so you dont have to clean bags at all and from my experience clickers are as automated as they come hehe.
I’d rather the AP cap stayed – I am into PvP lately which means 1 match = daily completion, and I’m only 1,700/15,000 into it. (I think the cap is 15k?), I’d rather it stays as it gives me something to strive for.
So will this change when you reached it?
I rather it be removed so I got something new to strive for would be the thinking then
Not everyone in my group got loot for sloth and Matthias. Some of the members in my group had killed sloth on the day prior getting loot and a few people (not them) got loot from Matthias. I do not have the resources available to me to show my API history for bosses killed and to show that I didn’t get loot from them but I do run a dps meter and have logs enabled. I can show that my group killed the bosses but I can’t show that my group didn’t get the loot besides one person who never got the boss kills that week due to not being there when we reran wing 2 later. Using raidheroes and the logs from the damage meter, I can show that my group had successfully killed both Matthias and sloth. Albeit it did take 3 tries each.
The link shows snips of raidheroes showing time & date along with a successful kill. There is also the file path to the htlm (raidheroes file) shown the top part of the browser. Which shows where these came from and they’re from the original log files that were used to create the raidheroes file. My group and I fit under the criteria from the information given to us.
Date:
6/20/2017
Time:
4:50 PM PST
5:17 PM PST
Bosses:
Slothasoar
Matthias Gabrel
Everything was cleared but we did not go back to those bosses that night.
Great recordkeeping and info! Thank you.
I was in this group (static), and received compensation. However, clearly not everyone in the group did receive compensation.
Seeing as we missed our Matthias loot, I later joined a PUG to get another Matthias kill, and I did end up getting loot on that kill. IIRC, that’s the only other raid group I joined during the time period. Perhaps I was given compensation for that PUG group and not our static group where most of us missed out on Matthias loot? Seems kinda backwards, if that’s the case.
And thats probabely it since you guys dident get any loot it wasent recorded as a kill in the api, so no compensation.
I think that the difference between a skin in wvw vs a tier of armor in raids makes your comparison a bit unbalanced.
Not really because it’s only the tag “legendary” and the skin on legendary armor. Swapping stats is negligible and only relevant for a very very very small amount of people. Not even raiders are using this mechanic on a regular basis due to unhandiness and most of the people that are constantly raiding already have enough asc gear + every week there is an additional chance of more and magnetite shards.
Yes the ones who would use it most are wvw (they might want to switch builds and carry alot of crap so afew runes dont matter) and open world pve guys (were mini maxing dont matter) so why they locked it behind raids is really mind boggling.
I dont mind the skin you can keep that but the legendary funcationality release that.
Let’s be honest, nobody really prayed for that functionality before and only because it’s there some are crying: “Omg, it’s so mandatory for WvW (or PvE).” I’m asking myself how people were able to WvW without it over all the years. ^^
They carry or bank alot of sets obviously, still most likely do and wouldent have to do that if they had legendary armor.
So since raiders dont use the functionality anyway why are some of them so against it getting implemented and used elsewere?
