Guild Wars 2

spoj.9672:

But its harder to complete dungeons with low dps. I think its pretty safe to assume most people would agree with effective = fast in this situation. Even people who dont build that way.

No, it is really not safe to assume that any of our views conform with the majority.

Forums are a tiny percentage of the players. Then we have the percentage that run dungeons, and the smaller group that regularly run dungeons, not to mention the number of players run off from dungeons because for them “X is too hard”, or “Y was mean”.

I have yet to run into a “hard to complete” dungeon that did not also have one or more players that refused or where unable to communicate in the same language in text or voice. I would not be surprised if others have, but I have yet to run into any.

“(in PvE effective means fast),”

hehehehehe, giggle, snort.

Effective in a PuG means able to complete with almost anyone, including being able to communicate in actual words and sentences through text or voice, and train if needed.

Effective in a Set Group, or Speed Run means Fast….Zzzzooooom!!!!!

In a Guild group depends on the Guild’s priorities, but often a mix of training and Zzzzooomm.

-game.6519:

Good thing this game doesn’t have:

1. DPS meters
2. Inspect feature
3. Gear Score

What it does have:

1. Human factor
2. Emotions

Figured I’d throw that out there

I figure its the exact opposite.

Though I’d label the human factor as the “peoples I can’t go to the pub with” factor.
The problem with emotions is that so many people think with them. They’re not so good for problem solving, and folks get more attached to their results.

The things you list as good thing this game doesn’t have, are only bad in the hands of people one thinks are being mean, and you can /report and /ignore them.

We automatically level down to more readily play nicely with others in the low level zones.

spoj.9672:

haviz.1340:

Threads like this are always amusing to read.

Its an endless debate and as much as I know I cant persuade people. I still enjoy telling them how wrong they are.

Maybe change a mind here and there in the audience, not usually the mind of a poster though. We posters tend to be fairly set in our ways.

Play what you want. Advertise any expectations up front. Be excellent to one another.

Obtena.7952:

swiftpaw.6397:

The reality is that unfortunately for you, zerker set is the better choice in dungeons.

The debate here (at least to me) isn’t if PVT or zerkers is better. It’s if you kick people from team for what gear they are wearing, especially considering the 5 points I listed.

Llyren.3904:

I do believe in a good manners approach to gaming in general, finding it more relaxing. Joining a group that was advertised with a specific request, when one is unwilling to meet the request, strikes me as poor manners.

Sure and there isn’t a reason for doing that, just like it’s unreasonable to kick someone who doesn’t wear the gear you want part way through a dungeon.

I completely agree that it is not appropriate to make up new requests mid-run to justify kicking.

I do not agree that it is inappropriate to kick when you believe that the requests you started the group with have have been violated. Even if it takes you until mid-run. Even if the request was something such as the wearing of a silly hat.

Anyone can start their own group on gw2lfg if they want, put in any requests they like, and help make it a friendlier dungeon running experience out there by the tone of their requests.

Wow I am off topic though. Back on topic I suggest trying a few builds out with rare level equipment before investing in exotics, much cheaper, and it will help you decide what you prefer. There are also some cheaper level 76-79 exotics that can often help you get a feel.

Do not pigeonhole yourself to one build/gearset only, it will be changed. Every game, every time.

Obtena.7952:

There are two ways to make teams:

1. Just grab any 4 people
2. Plan and organize roles, find people, test and optimize your gameplay

If you are in group 1 (aren’t most people?), your expectations aren’t that high anyways so have no justification to kick anyone unless they are AFK and leeching.

I would say most people are in group three below.

3. Advertise the PuG, with specific requests such as “must wear funny hat” or “tell me your favorite color of crayon”, both of which are funny but real examples. Other examples can include such things as must be this geared to ride this ride, must read chat, must use voicechat, the use of a specific language, age based, level based, no Charr or Charr only, and yes build and gear restrictions.

I do believe in a good manners approach to gaming in general, finding it more relaxing. Joining a group that was advertised with a specific request, when one is unwilling to meet the request, strikes me as poor manners.

Well, just because it is gone for now, does not mean it is gone for good.

I love storage space. It does get a bit spendy though, especially if you just must have big bags

Another thing you can do to get a bit more, is start a mini guild with just your own characters in it. As you level it up you can then buy yourself a guildbank all your own. Useless for those account or soul bound items sure, but fine for many other things.

Casual is not a synonym for bad, of course they can complete dungeons.

Casual players play a game, and it is fun, and they are having fun.

Well, there are flying vehicles in game already, may just be a matter of time until we can see that flying castle close up.

I’ve already bought all the bank spaces.
I’d buy a wardrobe if it was available.
We have the technology with the new achievement chest for zenith skins.

Yes please.

Additionally, let us buy Commander with alternative currencies =D

I want to give mobs that love, and then turn that love into acid, and then take that acid, add some daggers and turn it into an electrical spike. That sounds more like a suggestion for an Elementalist ability to me. Hello curing them with fire!

Necro’s, Mesmer’s, Warriors, Guardians, Engineer’s, and Thieves are already able to play with boons according to some lists in this thread. Notice all three or four classes ( depending on who you read ) already in demand for those speedruns are in those lists.

That being said balancing around the top players of one activity is silly. The best 5% will beat everything you put in front of them and yawn.

Balancing around the so called “elitists” is also silly. The greater majority are people just like everyone else, who want to play a pick up game, just with folks that know the game,and want to play well. A few are bad and want to be carried, a few more are loudmouthed, but every group has some of both.

I can be a bit unclear, it is a multiple-part suggestion really.

I do not want to be stealing the “NPC effects” as I agree that would be overpowering. I do not see a problem with being better able to blow mobs up that have that style of buff.

I want more mobs to have buffs that can be played with by the players. Not having the buff manipulation builds be interesting just for WvW and PvP, but also in most PvE.

I want some high percentage of mobs to be more powerfull, but with abilities that players can counter for more play choices. Including boss style mobs.

Two condition builds in the party? Currently they limit each others dps. What if instead we could feed each others dps by stacking up conditions then blasting those conditions off in a welter of direct damage.

The rest is playing with ideas around that theme that would fit the various Guildwars 2 classes. Turns out we can already do more along that line then I thought, and from more classes as well.

Most of the buffs I see on mobs, can’t be played with.
Maybe I am playing with the wrong mobs.

I want to give mobs that love, and then turn that love into acid, and then take that acid, add some daggers and turn it into an electrical spike.

Mobs don’t have surge protectors.

I do want to play with the mobs, the mobs buffs that is. Some of us classes can already do so. I want to expand the the number of mobs that make these abilities beneficial to have, while suggesting a few more abilities to spread around to various classes. Some of these we can already do, some maybe we can do, some we can’t do.

I want to dispell their buffs.
I want to turn their buffs into conditions.
I want to steal their buffs, and give them to my party members.
I want to turn their buffs into direct damage. Remove them with Fire!
I want to turn their conditions into direct damage. Cure them with Fire!
I want to take the conditions from my party and give them to my enemies.
I want to take the buffs from my party, and give them to everyone in my party.
I want to steal their conditions, and turn them into buffs.

About 5% of players… every game.

Anytime it is expressed “need X for Y”, then either X is overpowered or the one stating such is bad.

Soloing level appropriate group content, grouping level appropriate raid content.

Possibly because if you stood on top of each other like that in real life and used weapons you’d mess each other up. Cheesy , but not something I would label as an exploit.

If you do know a serious exploit, I believe Anet has set up a specific email for telling them all about it.

Best way is at level, with some new people, and making them figure it out.

There is not currently a challenge for the achievement results, it is time spent. Nor is there a challenge in getting a weapon ticket, it is random. This suggestion rewards players for seeing the content, and for spending time in it, how much time and which content remains up to them.

As a special note this suggestion keeps those who hate X content from feeling they have to run X content to get Y, and ruin the X content for the folks that like it with “nerfbat” calls.

Personally I find the idea of being able to grind out an achievement not just 5 tiers, but many many more distressing. An upper limit would be appreciated if something like this would be implemented.

Being able to pay gems for a ticket, does not mean that you have to take tickets out of the RNG boxes. If the tickets from the RNG boxes are sellable, and the gems ones are bound there are still reasons to try for both. You can aim to sell the unbound ones to other players a few months down the road when they are no longer available.

I went with griefing. Maybe I’m out 5 gold, but I’m not part of the 1000’s of mails those folks have to delete.

You should report. You can scream at them all you like in the privacy in your head, but not through the in game text. In game text opens you up to reporting.

Read the dev tracker. They do suspend and ban for bad behavior in game.

I’m not here to play with bullies or to raise other peoples children, even if they are adult children.

Add new “story mode” paths to them, based on their already present explorable paths, but lower in difficulty. Rewards, same as regular story mode, perhaps an additional achievement.

Mob AI and other balance changes:

Easy to bypass territorial and unintelligent mobs, and encouraged. Harder to bypass intelligent mobs, stealth/invisibility/teleports/ or similar should be used. If skipped while aware of you intelligent mobs should increase the difficulty of the rest of the dungeon in some manner, ie report forward, follow, ambush, etc.

Higher hit points and lower damage output on the dumb trash. Lower hit points and higher damage output on the smart trash.

Improve the group support abilities of most classes. There should always be a passive reason why any individual class would help.

Bosses should not be immune, or nearly immune to XYZ. Why bring XYZ if the mobs that matter, ignore your XYZ.

Spec them differently, gimmick/experimental specs and such.

Another time I got kicked simply by politely asking an engineer in a party before we started if he was going to switch to a zerk warrior for the speed run.

When you asked this, then they thought you where going to be a kitten. Any talk of game mechanics or efficent ways to do things will brand you as the devil, “elitist” for some folks.

I wouldn’t suggest blinding them, because part of the fun of the mass fights is watching to see if you are winning or not and deciding whether to revive and run back.

I would suggest auto reviving folks to their sides home base after 5 minutes of being dead. Talking about the borderlands and eternal battlegrounds only.

Tolmos.8395:

alcopaul.2156:

Pve Scrub.

Who even says scrub anymore?

The term you were looking for is “carebear” :-P

Carebear I first saw in Ultima Online, it is about as old as Scrub from this range.

Newbie however is old enough to have grandchildren. I first heard in the 70’s, and at the time it was convention fandom slang also used in the SCA.

Even Noob is older then most Pop stars, being from the early Everquest era.

Ah yes I am familiar with that mode. Then some folks rage quit and eventually the group breaks up yes? I am assured that for some people running past everything is the faster method.

You may want to try putting “not skipping content” or “killing everything” in the text of your group advertisements. It does seem like there are more then a few that do not like the comedy of errors that can sometimes happen when skipping mobs, so should still fill fast.

Good luck

I would so reroll to be a skritt

eisberg.2379:

Brewergamer.8357:

Zaxares.5419:

The “suspension for 3 days” IS your warning. When you are suspended/banned from the game, it is usually accompanied with a reason as to why you were suspended/banned. First offences usually result in 1 – 3 days of suspension. Subsequent offences usually go 3 days to a week. I don’t know where ANet draws the line before a permanent ban, but I’m guessing they probably operate on a “3 strikes” policy if the guilty party is particularly abusive.

Well see.. most people expect to have at least 1 warning before any kind of suspension.

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/legal/guild-wars-2-rules-of-conduct/

This is your warning.

That is indeed the warning.

The filter is not a license to swear.
/shrug
You where warned when you signed on the first time.

On skipping mobs or not. If the trash mobs had better rewards and/or less hit points, then there would be less skipping of them.

Some boss encounters are designed to be optional or bonus, no problem with skipping them either.

Go to www.gw2lfg.com/lfgs and post groups with the restriction " Doing everything in the Event. Not skipping content." It is one of their pre-sets.

Using the text of “killing everything” should help fix this issue as well. If folks bail, replace them with someone who actually read the posting. There are lots of folks that do not like running past content, and would join a killing everything group by preference if one was posted.

Well this one was 6 months old, before the last post, but if you are still having trouble try www.gw2lfg.com

Dual.8953:

It’s okay for small groups to be elitist because they’re small. But inspect features threaten to make elitism the norm. See WoW’s Gear Scores. “You must have this gear score to enter. What’s that? You need this raid to get that gear score? TOO BAD! UNINSTALL NOOB!”
Also, believe it or not, a large fraction of our player base has trouble maintaining more then 2 gold at a time. Especially those who’ve just gotten thier first 80. And you expect them to cough up 20+ gold not even including Runes, weapons and accessories, just to be allowed to dungeon?
Oh and to give an example of players being barred from high level content and unable to
get what they need to improve to reach the content’s entry level. Observe AR. Player’s with high fractal levels avoid low levels like the plague leaving lowbies stranded unable to find a fractal group just because they don’t meet the AR requirement. Especially those that aren’t used to lfg.

This is not WoW, examples based on WoW and Gearscore do not apply. For proof see example “Barrens chat”. GW2 has no comparable zone as all those players where suspended, and if they continued banned. If folks are communicating in the all caps example you gave above I would be reporting for personal attacks, anyone can do the same and help clean up the game.

Fractals are designed to start from low levels while fighting and gearing your way up, not start at upper levels and be carried by those already there. Options where put in to make this possible later, by player request.

I am seriously ok with any and all restrictions other players put on the groups they form, I have the same freedom. As a consequence to restricted groups being posted, unrestricted groups also fill fast. There are plenty of Isende.2607’s, some of whom even pug.

The player with 2gp can gear with a combination of rares and level 78/79 exotics and join unrestricted groups. Through unrestricted groups they can earn dungeon exotics. They can also harvest/salvage and join just about any Guild for friendly crafter help creating exotics.

Dual.8953:

Llyren.3904:

At equal skill, the character with better gear, will perform better. It’s Science baby, reduce your variables. Gear does improves performance.

Someone trolling the group with magic find gear when you’ve requested another style of funny hat be worn is not fun. Respect the funny hat!

A lot more players want a funny hat requirement then can be fit into any one guild. They would still have to pug to play with one another.

I don’t even join funny hat groups and can see their reasons. If peoples are mean report them. Someone not wanting to play with you is not being mean.

The problem is if the funny hat becomes the standard, it’ll be hard for those without the funny hat to find a group, and even harder for those that can’t afford the funny hat to even attempt to aquire the funny hat. It all becomes exclusive, telling outsiders and newcomers that they aren’t welcome.

Everyone can afford the funny hats if they want to, it may take them some time spent playing the game though. Asking for you to wear a suit and tie to get a seat is just a sign. I avoid those signs, but support inspect and respect.

Wanting to play with other characters that have spent the time to get a specific set of gear is not being mean. I’m fine with folks restricting their groups to anything; legendary required, a name that a fart joke, answer a monty python quiz. “Whats your favorte color” or even wear a funny hat.

You can post your own advertisements up there as well.

All it takes for mean peoples to succeed, is for nice peoples to do nothing.

There are a lot more nice friendly peoples.

At equal skill, the character with better gear, will perform better. It’s Science baby, reduce your variables. Gear does improves performance.

Someone trolling the group with magic find gear when you’ve requested another style of funny hat be worn is not fun. Respect the funny hat!

A lot more players want a funny hat requirement then can be fit into any one guild. They would still have to pug to play with one another.

I don’t even join funny hat groups and can see their reasons. If peoples are mean report them. Someone not wanting to play with you is not being mean.

I want more town clothes, not more underwear.

Though I could handle a swimsuit slot for the next time I go to the beach or diving spot.

I suspect anyone doing this regularly would be reported as a bot, and then suspended/banned eventually, as to any watcher it would seem to be such.

I support full transparency of spec and gear in any group.

If someone is mean, report it. Someone that does not want to play with you is not being mean.

I avoid any run mentioning spec/gear/speed/farm/experience.

That was a standard group, not an elitist one. The elitists would of been both meaner and kicked you. Elite could of carried or kicked, but would have taught if carrying.

See stickies at the top of this forum for video guides since you mentioned typically being the one that had watched them.

Wolfgang Michael.8217:

I kinda knew this but now I realize that I can equip Twilight on any character who can use a GS just by adding a sigil and making it account bound. Is that right?

I think you will find that equiping almost anything of green or better quality makes it character bound.

I’d prefer if they took all those PvE exploration things for “World Completion” out of WvW to be honest.

It’s in the Mists. Maybe it isn’t, but I thought it was supposed to be separate.

Really? I figured they would be on siege weapon scaling for their AE’s.

Balance means many choices and specs argued about and for at the top of the math crunching spectrum. The closer you get to balanced, the more spreadsheet/parse/video/proof based the discussion gets.

When for say Warriors it is hit X number on a greatsword, then go Axe/Mace till greatsword ’s X recharges. Things have gone to far the opposite way.

Armors are skins with stats we choose. While I wasn’t suggesting that for our Weapons, I see no reason that would be bad, or less balanced then what we have now.

I have seen this one time in the last 20 or so dungeon runs. These runs where all formed on that lfg site though, and where no special descriptor other then dungeon-story or explorable and if explore which path.