Guild Wars 2

Lazze.9870:

Iavra.8510:

even work while the ranger is downed (though this is more a general issue with F2 skills working while downed).

No, it’s not. But I’d be happy to see you prove me wrong.

For the alst week it does working while u’r downed.

Rangers are not not the only class with taunt, mesmers got it – https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Mirror_of_Anguish
and also Revenant.
If its working as intended? No one knows for sure, A.net looked at it in one of the recent patches and saied its working as intended.
“Beastly Warden: Fixed an issue that allowed players to taunt targets that should not have been affected.”(July 7, 2015)
If you ask me, this CC in under close watch and we might see some changes until HOT release.

Darkness.9732:

LughLongArm.5460:

Darkness.9732:

Swiftly.2385:

Why is there so much of it?

I just recently returned to GW2 after a long breakittenep hearing things like Rangers aren’t good for any game play.

I primarily pvp and WvW and keep hearing Rangers are pretty terrible. And I do see that they are under represented. In WvW I think I have really only seen maybe 10 other Rangers in the last 2 weeks.

I was told yesterday that most Ranger players are kittene but they still mostly win with LB and that is why people hate them.

I don’t really buy into the whole underpowered mind set but just curious where all this came from?

Ranger is the most broken class in gw2. It’ s ultra weak. No sense playing it.
Me personally i gave up with ranger…it has no sense playing it.
Do something good for yourself man : Don’ t play ranger.
And above all don’ t listen to all those who tell you : ^^eh ranger is strong !!^^
In 10 fights they get rekt 9 times and luckyly they managae to win 1 fight and they say ranger is strong. Sadness.

This guy I don’t even understand why he comes to ranger forum. If you dont like the class dont play it, its that easy.

You can’ t tell me what to do or not to do. It’ s that easy

Lol, I told you nothing i wasn’t even talking directly to you. Enjoy doing whatever it is you’r doing.

Darkness.9732:

Swiftly.2385:

Why is there so much of it?

I just recently returned to GW2 after a long breakittenep hearing things like Rangers aren’t good for any game play.

I primarily pvp and WvW and keep hearing Rangers are pretty terrible. And I do see that they are under represented. In WvW I think I have really only seen maybe 10 other Rangers in the last 2 weeks.

I was told yesterday that most Ranger players are kittene but they still mostly win with LB and that is why people hate them.

I don’t really buy into the whole underpowered mind set but just curious where all this came from?

Ranger is the most broken class in gw2. It’ s ultra weak. No sense playing it.
Me personally i gave up with ranger…it has no sense playing it.
Do something good for yourself man : Don’ t play ranger.
And above all don’ t listen to all those who tell you : ^^eh ranger is strong !!^^
In 10 fights they get rekt 9 times and luckyly they managae to win 1 fight and they say ranger is strong. Sadness.

This guy I don’t even understand why he comes to ranger forum. If you dont like the class dont play it, its that easy.

I have to admit, after the last big patch it feels that rangers are highly favored to win vs thieves .

I think somthing like:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vNAQNAR8XjUqQLLWyCesAXLG+Dq91zgAo73bfH+04HG+C2UB-T1BHABRpEs5LCwY6G+T9HjU+BwTAA79HIFQXbtA-w

MT is flexisble and could be changed to SOTW or SoR or Sic’em . MT as a pick is well rounded.

Zenos Osgorma.2936:

LughLongArm.5460:

I think:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vNAQRAsf3YjEqQLLWzC+rAVLGMEq+dD2WgDgRvB+c/2r9CW1A-TZhAwATOIAceCAkLDA4EAwb/BA

drop the burning duration sigil and add 6% condi damage sigil , it’ll do more damage over the whole build and up burning to 10k over 3secs rather than 9.5ishk over 3.5secs.
its a good build.

you’r right, its better +1 15char

ATM rangers are not hated, the hate moved toward mesmers and d/d eles, rangers now are just being ignored.

I think:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vNAQRAsf3YjEqQLLWzC+rAVLGMEq+dD2WgDgRvB+c/2r9CW1A-TZhAwATOIAceCAkLDA4EAwb/BA

Eurantien.4632:

I literally threw that Asura together in about 20 minutes, and just had berserker armor boxes from PvP just lying around. The build I was playing with was in no way optimized.

Understood sir /15 char

Cool, testing is the best way to know for sure

trunks.5249:

LughLongArm.5460:

I think –
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vNAQRBMfdG2IlK0wi9rg5KQ1iBMhqX2ONA+bYyjcfxXgHfCpA-TpRHABDcCAqY/hAeAAJVGAgjAQwHEAA

BTW why the horn?

lol i knew someone would ask. i suck really bad with dagger.trust me i have practiced with that thing for days gave up lol.

Ok, cool.
I posted coupe of days ago an hybrid might stacking build with same amulet and same weapon setup you might want to try it out(horn/torch combo is cool for might stacking).
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vNAQRBHhx+1IhK0yilsg/KQ1ihEhqT3d9E+AI2nZP1X9WPjfOZ2D-TJRGwAAeCAJOJAg2foZZAA

I think –
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vNAQRBMfdG2IlK0wi9rg5KQ1iBMhqX2ONA+bYyjcfxXgHfCpA-TpRHABDcCAqY/hAeAAJVGAgjAQwHEAA

BTW why the horn?

Raven.9603:

Killing a pet is supposed to be an important strategy for fighting a ranger in PvP or WvW. Particularly useful if the pet provides a really important benifiet to the ranger, like being used for a Protect Me cooldown, of if you are a condition user and want to deny a Signet of Renewal or Empathic Bond.

Pet HP was increased in PvE to help keep them alive in that game mode, but not increased in other game modes to prevent that method of hurting the ranger. What pets really need is aoe damage reduction so that they aren’t effected by cleave and red circles as much, but can still be directly targeted if a player wants to take them out. Sadly, this feature which is very common in nearly every other major MMO isn’t used in GW2 because they just don’t consider it important enough of a problem to address, even if it means pets are insta-killed frequently in dungeons and WvW.

I like your logic regarding killing the pet as a strategy . Only problem is that while the health on pets have been designed, burning stacking wasn’t a thing. Pets have no defense mechanism vs condis. That used to be OK before the burning stacking age but now, little ring of fire by ele just destroy your pet(even spiders) they don’t even need to aim pet, lots of burning applications are aoe. How much time can you survive burning burst without cleanse? 5 -10 sec? pets got lots of new toys to mitigate physical damage but they’r are more vulnerable than ever to condis.

Ya, pets got hp boost for PVE only. PVP and WvW got the same basic hp values. I hope they will also boost pet HP in WVW.

Hi Eura, nice vid.
Realy wanted to c the “blind” play with pets F2 cancellation, but you changed to RT:(
Another thing which makes me wounder, why are you so glassy while the “unfair” elemnet of remorseless build is the “free” crit chance?
Somthing like –
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vNQQNAsXRjMqQLLWuCOsAXLG+Dq91zgAg/g8dD+j/HG+T2VlqA-T1BHABRpEs5TBwY6D+T9HjU+BwTAYm9HIFQVatA-w
or –
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vNQQNAsXRjMqQLLWuCWsAXLG+Dq91zgAg/g8dD+j/HG+T2VlqA-T1BHwARVCOWfwf1fMq8DwTAQ1+DDOFAkCgJtWA-w

Heimskarl Ashfiend.9582:

LughLongArm.5460:

Hybrid build as hybrid can get. WVW roaming build.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vNAQRBMfdG2IhK0yilsgFLQ1iBDhqf3gtF4AYdbAv1j9ZvgVNA-T1RGABA8EAS4kAElyP60PknSwHV/ht9HEFkZB-w

food – https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Fried_Golden_Dumpling

fyi mate, they added those foods to the editor
see here.

WoW, cool. Thanx for the info m8(+1).

Hybrid build as hybrid can get. WVW roaming build.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vNAQRBMfdG2IhK0yilsgFLQ1iBDhqf3gtF4AYdbAv1j9ZvgVNA-T1RGABA8EAS4kAElyP60PknSwHV/ht9HEFkZB-w

food – https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Fried_Golden_Dumpling

Also love sb on power/hybrild builds. Faster attack its not what the weapon needs, as it now, SB is all about the AA and i dont think A.net want to encourage even stronger AA. it needs some litle twiks to skills 2-5(not sure what). For examplei dont think it should get range if 1200, but SB 4 and 5 could get range buff(like off hand dagger and torch 5) with additional buffs afc…
Fixing air sigil also will help alot(this sigil is just made for power SB) and changes to LOYF which is terrible ATM.

Prisoner.2419:

Ring/Line of Warding, Static Field, etc. are telegraphed, long cooldown skills with easily recognizable visual indicators. Beastly Warden taunt is instant and short cooldown. See the difference?

Beastly Warden is on a very small radius and attached to a clumsy AI, See the difference?
Not to mention that taunt is evadble, i saw ppl evade from it tons of times.

^^ +1 /15 char

Sorry mike but i think we got ya ; ) Final version. Even if mike MixMax differently, I think it’s about 90%+ his build with gear runes/sigils/food, everything.
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vNAQNAT8YjEqQBL2yCWsAXLGIEqdHCgqun3VIF449qjgSGVRA-TlCFABNcQAA4BAsz+DXpEEJlfCcBAMU9n00BswRAQNNDkCwMRWA-w

Swiftly.2385:

Nice Video mate, don’t suppose you would share your build here?

Lol, we just yesterday “reverse engineered” his build.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/ranger/Sword-dagger-over-GS-for-roaming/first#post5333384

Nice vid btw

Archon.6480:

Heimskarl Ashfiend.9582:

LughLongArm.5460:

Heimskarl Ashfiend.9582:

LughLongArm.5460:

I always thought is due to torch/dagger smaller radius and range, I expect to c more condi rangers now.

Yeah, especially with Quick Draw. As a point holder, it should be pretty good. We have so much reapplication that it should still do good damage as well as being able to be tanky and have a DPS pet.

Once there is PvE condi meta in full swing, PvP condi ranger will make a big comeback imo.

Amen to that, I also dont think the diamond ele is a hard counter to condi ranger. DPS pers with BM and some might will get the ele under 90% .

Aye, AA then F2 from Owl will take the ele below 90% and then chill them to boot.

Agreed, but if you were to use melee and high damage you can almost /sleep and faceroll them.

Edit: ok maybe not faceroll, but it’s faster than trying to kill with conditions, right?

Condi bunker BM builds, have the potentioal of winning any 1vs1 while being on base.
Now with condis stacking togather, they also have good team fight capabilities.
We might see condi rangers make a comback, the radius on bonfire was realy holding them back, but its no longer an issue.

Heimskarl Ashfiend.9582:

LughLongArm.5460:

I always thought is due to torch/dagger smaller radius and range, I expect to c more condi rangers now.

Yeah, especially with Quick Draw. As a point holder, it should be pretty good. We have so much reapplication that it should still do good damage as well as being able to be tanky and have a DPS pet.

Once there is PvE condi meta in full swing, PvP condi ranger will make a big comeback imo.

Amen to that, I also dont think the diamond ele is a hard counter to condi ranger. DPS pers with BM and some might will get the ele under 90% .

I always thought is due to torch/dagger smaller radius and range, I expect to c more condi rangers now.

The V.8759:

LughLongArm.5460:

Bunker BM builds tend to work much better with condi builds. also, if replacing dagger with torch, you can blast for more might(6 for pet if u’r both in range) and ofc do tons of damage. Jungle stalker is easy pick, insta 10 might for himself so much less time to build up the might.
I was thinking somthing in the line of –
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vNAQRBHhx+1IhK0yilsg/KQ1ihEhqT3d9E+AI2nZP1X9WPjfOZ2D-TJRGwAAeCAJOJAg2foZZAA

Condi builds limit you more in my opinion since pets do not apply high anmounts of damage. There is much more synergy in power builds between pet and ranger. This leaves more space open for tweaking it for more defense.
Next to that, why do you use signet of renewal? Your pet takes a few stacks of burning and you have a dead pet.

Hi I do not agree with your statment, bunker BM builds are better with condi due to damage distribution(pets physical, you condi) adn stats restrictions(only condi damage). Ranger with axe/dagger and kight amulet does no damage. Ranger with rabid and torch does tons of damae. You cliamed pets do tons of damage on your orignal post and now you claim that pets “do not apply high anmounts of damage”? 8k from tail swipe +10k burn is alot of damage.
SoR passive is the only thing that cures condis from your pet(well also HS), only the active kills them. Use the active only when you must and have F4 out of CD(all your bar are condi removals). Also, the drake is in the build to tank group fights and other condi builds.

Bunker BM builds tend to work much better with condi builds. also, if replacing dagger with torch, you can blast for more might(6 for pet if u’r both in range) and ofc do tons of damage. Jungle stalker is easy pick, insta 10 might for himself so much less time to build up the might.
I was thinking somthing in the line of –
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vNAQRBHhx+1IhK0yilsg/KQ1ihEhqT3d9E+AI2nZP1X9WPjfOZ2D-TJRGwAAeCAJOJAg2foZZAA

FrownyClown.8402:

Yeah he runs those traits. Pretty sure he runs a bit more toughness in his build.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vNAQNAT8YjEqQBL2yCWsAXLGIEqdHCgqun3VIF449qjgSGVRA-TFyTwAMVbBiSDA7PwRJYDlBTUitUVCX6GCAgAwNH6NH6NvZpAKXkF-w

this would reflect closer to it.

Cool, +1 / 15 char

Something like –
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vNAQNAT8YjEqQBL2yCWsAXLGIEqdHCgqun3VIF449qjgSGVRA-TVxTwANU+xU9HX6GAs/AHlgkCocRWA-w

90%+ sure about traits.
Not so much regarding gear and food, all i have to go on is his high HP pool.

Lazze.9870:

LughLongArm.5460:

When SB 1200 ranger ever on the table? The distance for off had skills is a fix, they used to have it while traited and now the trait doesnt exist, it was supposed to become base, same as LB 1500 range. Its not the case with SB.

People are just refering to how they nerfed shortbow from 1200 range to make it more distinct to longbow back in the day.

Which, as you say, isn’t really relevant at all. There are other ways to improve it.

Ya, the nerf was like 100 years ago , I dont even feel it needs the 1200 range and I use SB as my main weapon(not sure what it needs, kinda like it as it is).

When SB 1200 ranger ever on the table? The distance for off had skills is a fix, they used to have it while traited and now the trait doesnt exist, it was supposed to become base, same as LB 1500 range. Its not the case with SB.

Niceeeeeeeeeeeeee, Thanx A.net. Hope for HS fixes next update.

Lots of good rangers roamers prefer S-D over GS, Mike Floryan comes to mind –
https://www.youtube.com/user/kaybosh44/videos

Guardians are hard counter to rangers? thats news to me, never had an issue with guards.
Anyhow, it already been confirmed that condi damage is going get tuned down and pet survivability is going to go up(extra 150 to stats), take a tanky pet.

Yep, amazing skill. Been doing some amazing cluch reviving with this one.

Hi man, I would change one of your trait line to WS. the extra survivability from WS is realy needed. Also, you have no cindi cleanse. Vampirism rune is not as useful to the ranger compared to other professions like thives.

If u’r new to spvp try to rune with a forgiving build(WS/NM/BM) celec rune or somthing, for few mtaches, only than go back for the LB gassy builds.

Sure, can be realy cool. But remember taunt and rakes dont work togather that well. But with ZS… Could be very nice.

You had 18 might on u , i guss drake had like 25~. Ya with 25 might and vau on golem drake can crit this high.

Another piece of the pazzle. He’s using traveler rune, i can c avidance of boon duration(6 stability from RAO) and i cant think of any other source that makes sense.

“???(not MoC though” , ya I did say it could also be “steady focus”, I just saw a realy heavy hit from owl and i wasnt sure how did he crit like that if not BM.

posthumecaver.6473:

LughLongArm.5460:

His build:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vNAQJARTjEqQLLWyCOsAXLG+Dq91zgAo73aYH49Nf3gCWdA

The build is not as tanky as you think it is.
MOC could also be steady focus, not sure regarding this one.

Cant put him on amulet/runes/sigils. The amulet is a power one ofc(zerk/mara/crusader?).

Are u sure I have a feeling he has a much more stability uptime then 3s every 60s from the stream.

RAO is not 3 sec every 60s, its refreshing the 3 sec stability for the duration of 9sec.

Sandzibar.5134:

Then maybe enlargement rather than clarion bond from marks?

edit: at work so cant actually check footage to see

Well, I looked closly for enlargment as i expectd it. But no enlargment and not brutish seals(which is obvious pick if u go both SOS and enlargment). Also, I had a clear vision of the wolf icon from call of the wild( but I guss it could also be from pack rune so i cant be 1005 sure).

Notice this guy also have shared agunish(my speculation) so it seems he got very good CC defence.

His build:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vNAQJARTjEqQLLWyCOsAXLG+Dq91zgAo73aYH49Nf3gCWdA

The build is not as tanky as you think it is.
MOC could also be steady focus, not sure regarding this one.

Cant put him on amulet/runes/sigils. The amulet is a power one ofc(zerk/mara/crusader?).

posthumecaver.6473:

LughLongArm.5460:

A link to his twitch wold be helpful.

I don’t know he has stream or not, I saw him in Phantaram’s twitch, he was playing against Phantaram and he wrecked him.

I was browsing through his last 4:39:49 lnog broadcast, I even got a glance of Eura. But couldn’t find the one u’r talking about. Do you have the exact time(and the specific broadcast)?

A link to his twitch wold be helpful.

Its quite a popular template build, its quite known and quite good. You chose to take spike trap over SS or some signet, which is cool and interesting. Also most players choose to play S-T/A-D for leap finisher in bonefire and to speard of your evades. Drakes and taunt dont work that well, you might want to change for a dog or eagle.

Not likely transformation, to much of our class(weapon skills, traits, utilities tec..) is involved around the pet.
On reddit many suggested “animal kits” – I like the idea but I cant c that happening due to balance considirations(engis got 1 weapon penalty).

Stances is flavorless in terms of mechanic, its more thematic flaovr. Wht’s the diefference between survival (QZ) and stances in terms of mechanic?

What rumors? 15 charrrrr

Hi man, there are much more ways now to get prema regen compared to old builds.
HS+ the traps trait = 100% regen uptime
RT+ we heal as one and rampage as one(no need for guard spam).
oakhear slave on lower CD( just a filler for extra regen)
Rejuvenation Minor Trait – (not exacly nerf, its on much lower CD now)
Lingering magic give ATM 100% boon duration to pets, so fren hound with both NM and BM, will give 20sec regen on 20 sec CD.
OFC u still have dwayna rune and the outstanding defender rune.

trunks.5249:

LughLongArm.5460:

I think you should replace NM with Skrimishing and take HS as a heal. With your amulet running without a good regen source is just a crime+ its condi removal and lower CD on traps. Also change poison trap to fire trap and put sigil of torment on weapons, you can experiment with poison master if you think you have enough condi removal.
Also, unless you’r expert with dog F2 cancellation, go with eagle over cat for the blind spam. Something like this :

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vNAQRAsf3YjMqQ5K2uCWsAVLGYEqecr1kmLgLPA+Wf1T9CWUB-TJRHABQVG42TCAM7PAwTAAA

tried yours for about an hour i like the sigles but the rest of my build worked better then yours at lest for me

OK, cool. If it’s not broken i won’t try to fix it
Atleast try to take RT with “we heal as one” for some regen uptime and swiftness.