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Yo, Its an “hot join” build, and ya, best for 1v1, GS cus i like the mobility while running from base to base and the block. S/D will also work but kinda slow movment(no movment bonus) with poison master you have enough poison so S/D isnt a must.
The F4+F2 combo is real, ppl dont expect it, the bird landing on your head can crit for 5k with quickness and poiso(while you sb aa with quickness). You low on condi removal but you healing capabilities make up for it. I also like to use pet swap while reviving for speedy revive. Fun build, not competitive but can rule hot join no problem.

Build with SB, does it exist? pvp

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How to deal with conditions as a ranger?

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@shadowpass.4236
Yep thats right thats alot of condi removal, and the build is actually legit.

Rapid fire range

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The strong side of RP is the close ranger burst not the long range. AA from distance can crit 2.5k for glass cannons.

How to deal with conditions as a ranger?

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I remember couple of months ago, some ranger posted on forum a build that can remove like 100+ condis per min or somthing crzy like that. Searched for it, didnt find.
But after watching flopy the rabit(potatoes) youtube and twich(jsut one example) you start to understand that meny times good pressure on your oponnest, and control is the best condi defence. For example, vs p/d thief always take sic’em over SoR. VS fear necro always take Sotw over Sor(for the stability ofc). etc…

WvW Video - Melee Ranger - Whack-A-Ranger!

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Awesome video, loved your new off hand axe play. I remember that BM condi ranger(14:00) kitten he was nasty. Thank you for the upload.

Suggestions for Shouting

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You forgot, make “heal as one” a shout.

BM build suggestions?

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This version doesnt neglect the LB must trait. Got damage and survivability.
Keep in mind that if you want your pet to actually be useful in the vast open terrain of WVW you cant be as far away from foe as in normal LB zerk builds(thats why spotter over eagle eye) or your pet wll just spend his time chasing oppnent. You want your pet to benfit from spotter and your rune set proc. swap pet+F2 + rapidfire = mega burst.
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQNAsYTjMq0vaDLWsw1aAChadA8uVNrD49yGt9cBTOA-T1SEABKq+DUKRg7QAAwJAYgjAAXKBjSZFTKFwZ/BBeAAtpPgUAVMMC-w

I love Greatswords & pets. Is GS Viable?

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Most rangers use GS as second weapon for mobility and defence(sometimes for maul combo) Fox however use it as main wapon and he’s amazing with it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gK2hQFrU0hc&list=UUYclQDh7uLwSrS6ICtcPMWQ

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Yay, finally a video of a power ranger with trapper rune set. Looks cool.

Request From A Thief

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@ManIsBlack.4597
Its actually one of the more skilled base builds for thives.

Balanced Wvw LB power roamer

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Looks solid, change cruelty to bloodlust(now that your power is lower but ferocity is higher)
listen to feedback from others regarding red moa/qz etc..

Balanced Wvw LB power roamer

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Balanced Wvw LB power roamer

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Might be OK, but passing out on read the wind and eagle eye, is big hit for your LB burst output.

I use a short bow and a greatsword any advice

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Its funny because today i actually got chat flamed by LB ranger in hot join spvp for playing SB/GS. He called a lazy noob and chiesy(and somthing about that we live in 2014), he was mad i killed him in every encounter, i was score leader for my team and he was last. So i wounder as well, are we doing somthing wrong?

Request From A Thief

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@solrik.6028,

What @Prysin.8542 wrote.

Request From A Thief

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S/T- A/D are still best for 1v1 dules, S/T- A/D builds actually got insanelyi buffedd with the changes to entangle, active sigents and might on axe. Thouse builds are so stong, they not much appreciated anymore by the ranger community(although they do require high skill and deep understaning of the ranger class). I rarly c them, but when i do, they own me like no other build in the game(and i’m talking from every profession).

The Precise Opportunist

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If you have the gold, consider taking generosity sigil over fire, Eggyokeo already talked about primal reflex. If you want to add flavor to the build take boar as second pet for more stuns and fear(they also synergise with Moc buff).

Ongoing King/Queen of the Hill Results

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Thanx Bakeyy, i have been completely outplayed by you. It was fun being the king for 60 min ^^

Ongoing King/Queen of the Hill Results

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New EU King!
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Build – http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQJAVRjEq0ya/KWsQ1agDhq9K0uTNrA4dxus3cBTOA-TpBFABAfEAa7BAkwhAAqyAAcBAGZ/BA
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Thank you solrik for the dules, officially i won 2-0 but, solrik had big lag issues on first fight and insisted to count it anyway. Second match was much harder but i was able to get the win. We made another friendly duel which ended up with me on my back. So by points only, i’m the new EU king.

Ongoing King/Queen of the Hill Results

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PvP Rune of Resistance Build Idea

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The first rune of resistance build i have ever seen. The rune set with the most unnecessary long inc. On paper its a bad rune set but i have never seen it in action so….
Change sigil of purity to generosity (dont see why not), oak heart to hide in plain sight, i tihnk its better for your build setup.
Not sure about beastmaster might, but you have the all “sigent” theme thing going on so i’ll let it pass.

Ongoing King/Queen of the Hill Results

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@solrik.6028
Hi m8, I’m from EU and i’ll be happy to try my “hot join” build vs yours.
Is this still the build you’r using?
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQRBHRxG2IjKNs2xiLLUtGwSoa3ABwo+8GaVnR7DcxVHVB-TZRHwAQLDQ4MAM4BAA4gAEa/BA
(shame i’m not a condi ranger, your build screams condi bunker ranger).
How do we do that? you have like a personal server(have 0 experience with those kinds of things)

Ranger or Scholar rune for berserker ranger?

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ranger runes most definitely.

Tin foil hat argument?

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Yes. I also believe Star Wars is a documentary.

LOL

Help me with a WvW Roamer solo build

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@Azel.4786
Hi,
sword/dagger vs GS – sword dagger is one of the most skill rewarding weapon sets in the game. On paper is much better than GS for your build, if you think about it, sb and s/d have similar gmae rhythm, with movments,evades fast AA etc.. moreover, its another way to make use of your 400+ condi damage with more poison and bleeds, more cripple and might on pet. If you can handle it, by all means use it. The button “z” can realy help with camera rotation for “sword 2”. The long poison pressure will also open up for your new pet options like a raven as a second pet(perplacment for spider) for burst on deamend. GS is just very easy and fun to use, much more relaxing and very good for land speed(off comabt mobility).

muddy terrain vs SOTW – lets breake it down :as a fury source: fury up time already 100%, think about it, your rune set and bonus from weapon swapping alone will give you90%+ fury uptime(13sec every 20sec+6.5every 10 sec) you have another 23 sec fury from 3 survival utilites(LR, entangle and keen edge)on ~40-60 sec cd, so its a waste as a fury sourse.
as a condi defence mechanism – its 2 condi removal every 25 sec, i added to your build evasive purify which is 1 condi removal every 10 sec(which condi build doesnt put long duration poison on you) so in terms of condi defence its about the same compared to your original build, moreover, vs super condi builds you would like to change for SOR any way, so look at it as a flexisable utility slot.
as a utility – the long cast time and the ground targeting making it very underwhelming, its also can be evaded and blocked(unlike traps), it can work as a good chain with elite(works the best on necros) but thats about it. SOTW passive scales amazingly with healing power – ~90health every sec, the active saved so meny times its about defence as much as it about offence- with sword/gs mobility -> 50% speed, not much can catch you after that, 10 sec stability and damage buff also helps alot.

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LOL , lucky brutal charge with SOTH togather with a maul landing, and they both crit. this happends like once every like 10000000000 times.

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@Azel.4786
I made some changes on your template(tried to stick to your guide lines, didn’t change to much). my reasonings:
1)One of most popular builds for warriors in WVW today inclueds condi defence food+hoelbark runes which give -60% condi duration, your sharpend edges trait is 2sec bleed, -60% its 0.8(sec) bleeds only deal damage each full second, which means your trait does nothing for meny tanky builds, and very litle for other. If you dont go condi duration focus with food and spesific rune choises(krait), don’t go this direction(same goes for earth sigil).
2) I replaced runes for pack, with your weapons swap and the rune u’ll have all the swiftness u’ll need in comabt, better fury duration(its atleast 100% uptime right now). for a solution off comabt i added sigil of speed on GS, kill 2 wolves(4 with summosns) and stack like 2min wiftness.

3) I replaced Moc with spotter for better stats distribution, I feel like Moc is not as consistent as one would think, its very hard to combo with a maul, unless your are supoer pro, keep it simple (feel free now to tkae S/d instad of GS if you like it).

4)changed: strengh of spirit with natural bounty to get the max out of your heal, u’ll need that regnen uptime more that you think. two handed trainig for whatever(i put evasive purify) you already have 100% fury uptime and the 5% buff wont do that much, GS is more of a support weapon. changed buff from precision to strengh(with changes you have the same crit chance, ~60%). changed rampager to assassin on SB(no point for rampager now).

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNMQJAVRjMq0yaHLOsQ1aABhaZAMvMr3Kw9QcDfdJjqC-TVyEABG8AAuTXwfKBrU9nAuAAPcEAuS5nN7PAwhAgUAmrMC-w

More adjusments to test/consider – malicious training over keen edges, bloodlust sigil over battle on GS, different sigil so SB to replace battle(i put strengh should give more than 3 might wiht your crit chance). Try to take SOTW instad of muddy terrain or SoS, your healing power makes the passive as good as a mango pie food, also the stability and and+ damange and speed is amazing(best utility sigent).

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@Dardamaniac.1295
Hi m8, I feel that your build is everywhere but nowhere.

1) If you want the might/beast thing combo to be effective, fortifying bond is your best friend. The 6 in marksmanship is not optimal for oyur build direction, Signets might will not go even close to the might stacking potential for your pet with fortifying bond, axe combo(might on weapn swap etc..) predator outlet is more of a pve trait, i dont think its as effective in spvp due to low stats synergy

2) If you want to get the max out of intimadation training take eagle/hawk as atleast 1 of your pets.

3)Dont go double axe, think about mobility as well, sword as one of your wepaons.

4)IF condi is your main damge source no reason why not to go for 6 in wilderness survival.

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Hi @Azel.4786,
I have lots of experience wit SB/GS set up and there are some pointers i can give you:

1.If want hyprid/power setup you realy want to be at atleast 2000 power as base, less than that and your crits will feel noodlish in terms of damage.

2.air sigil is your best friend, it boosts and SB damge by alotttt, i use fire as second sigil but its more arguable, air is a must.

3. SB(your main damage source) has no burst damge potential build into the weapon, some builds will be able to out sustain your damage(like d/d ele, good medi gurds gs/hammer warriors with melandru condi defence food etc…) you need utilites like QZ and SOTW to function as burst rotations.

Confusion with WVW Asuran Ranger?

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Its not updated but you can get the main idea. SB/LB can both work, each have their on pros and cons.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-tG34sEKcg&list=UUXpX7JMwRXtczc5GTrIYRIw

Try to mixman Rampager with celectrial for extra survivebility.
Dont take the confusion recial, lots of better utilities.
2-6-6-0-0 might be better.
It worth mentioning that xsorus later changed perplexity to traveler because he argued that the confusion is not as good with the daze effect from techno+moc, both prevent player from preforming actions, its like cripple and chill combo. He also argued that the free utility slot(the soth slot) is much more important that the confusion bonus from perplexity. But, things have changed and it might be very good right now.

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I'm not having fun with this class.

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In your description you actually mentations the use of elite and 2 out 3 utility skills. Somthing tells me you also used all of your weapns skills and the extra utility. So you used all of your tools to kill your opponent, gj welcome to gw2. SB bleeds builds always were like meny other “troll”, “one theme aspect” builds. very good vs noobs and pugs not so much vs decent players. saying that, having fun is somthing personal and the most important thing in a computer game, if you’r not having fun with your bleed build, change to somthing else(build or profession).

Rapid fire needs adjustment

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Solving an issue(if there is an issue) by nerfining somthing else which also apply to other things not related to main issue is a big no no, you end up nerfing meny builds which doesnt requier nerfing while not much adrresing to the main issue(ripple effect).

Ranger being annoying in WvW

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Best part of the video – 9k maul out of stealth with SOTH, such a wounderful rotaion.

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on the contrary, it is no secret that the biggest screamers of rapidfire OP are thieves and mesmers, both evolved a gamestyle which allow them to roam with full glassy builds while being be close to invisible. If LB rangers can punish this kind of playstyle i’m happy. You see? everything is about position, as a SB ranger with good damge but no hard burst damge spikes, thives and PU mesmers are a nightmare, LB rangers, on the other hand, are pice of cake.In theory LB rangers will make thieves and mesmers go abit less greedy builds and builds that good vs LB rangers will make them go abit less greedy. Its a dynemic meta game the way it supposed to be.

if you think the LB changes aren't OP

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@Chrispy.5641
As a fellow SB ranger i can give you some tips that might help.
thumb rules:
1)RP has a very recognisable sound, i think its the only burst damge skill in the game with a clear sound tied to it.
2) The LB 3(stealth attack) will almost be followed with knockback and RP, after LB ranger re-apear i jsut side dodge/GS block /etc..
3) strafse and side movments are better than backward/forward movment patterns vs LB.
4)LB rangers very weak vs stun and immob(Good LB rangers knows how to deal with it)
In wvw most of LB rangers are glassy canons noobs, if they cought in Entangle they’r dead, i chain the elite with another source of immob (muddy tarrain of spider) with entangle to reduce the chance they dodge it.
OS lb rangers are much better, yesterday i tried the the immob tactic on a good LB ranger and it failed hard, changed to good old RAO for the stability and QZ for the burst, changed spider to bird, my tactic was to outburst the LB ranger from close range, without the knockback they’r having a realy hard time.

Rapid fire needs adjustment

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@Chrispy.5641
hi Chrispy, i struggle to understand your opinion on the subject… You probably watch the same arguments and the same videos only becuse the same forum post is re-posted under different names 1000 times already.
Like you saied, comparing weapon skills from different professions is a bad methology, rangers that did that pre-patch have been scoled and were not taken seriously.
The rapidfire OP threads started on the evening of the patch, and the posts you see today are Inertia of the same original posts. Its a big change for the meta game, from almost 0 power ragers we moved to wide poulation, it takes time to messure and adjust, players used to Look at power rangers as en engi turret(ignore it, if it gets to annoying, destroy it) Now we all go through a “re-learning” prosess, there is a new type of “role” is the game – high range single target burst dps, some builds will have to be twiked, the same way most builds require you to carry condi-defence, builds will have to include more mobility, toughness, and range defence(block\reflect etc…)
I play a SB ranger btw, always have. I win vs 95% of my LB rangers encounters, the good LB rangers players kill me and thats the way it should be.
and Lets be honest here, on eveyry time u’r getting killed by rapidfire while running away from zerg/small group, you die atleast 3 times to a s/d thief but players just got used to it so no big deal.

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Koroshi vs Floppy duels

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Love your stuff, can’t wait for another video.

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1) The LB in the apv realm was very solid and used strong build. I think it was 6-0-2-6-0 with lyssa runes.
2)its not at all about the fight scenes but rather the explanations and tips he gave.
3) Belive it or not but its OK to be killed by a LB ranger if he’s plying better that you or even on same level if RNG was on his side or rock paper scissors scanario in which his build stong vs your build.
4)Ya the majority of rangers running around right now with “all in” glassy cannons builds are noobs rangers. The good rangers play a much more balnced build in wvw/spvp(more survivability/less burst damage). I suspect that soon thouse players will get tierd and go back to their thives mesmers and warriors.
5) The guy have some very good pointers like how the rapid fire change is not the most important change for rangers post patch but rather the entangle change, somthing to think about(also the sigents helps alot).
6)as a SB ranger i can tell you i still havn’t lost a duel to a roaming LB ranger, i’m sure there are some wo can kill me, but thouse will be the rangers with skills.

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sums up the post patch ranger discussion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXsE5TMN1-M
whats more there is to add?

[Pro Tip]Fighting a LB ranger

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sums up the post patch ranger discussion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXsE5TMN1-M
whats more there is to add?

How long till rapid fire nerf?

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sums up the post patch ranger discussion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXsE5TMN1-M
whats more there is to add?

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sums up the post patch ranger discussion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXsE5TMN1-M
whats more there is to add?

Koroshi vs Floppy duels

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@Sevans.4619
Ya, 3 traps on a power build is definitely an over kill. moreover, SB unlike LB, is about about burst cycels when you stealth with SB you lose dps, with LB you use to re-position yourself at distance which can boost dps.

@Benjamin.8237
I look st flopy updated build, he uses SOTH so its not a big sacrifice to replace with a trap, both will give him mobility. Flopy invest alot for the extra stealth, his pet F2 iclueds bad AI some RNG with F2 and micro managment(to pick item and use) so it seems he’s willing to invest to gain the stealth, and it realy works for him. I actually agree that the set is not amazing for trap builds due to fact they’r the source of burst damgae of the user(and the damage will get you out of stealth). But with power build the trap is just a utility to re-position and rapid fire.

@Anymras.5729
Might work but not for LB builds, the remotless bonus is only for the first shot and for the full duration of rapid fire(the main burst) perhaps with GS/ x-Axe cavalir/valkyrie builds.

@solrik.6028
Ya, but the fire is on much shorter cd fire trap(15 sec) forst trap(30 sec) it comes to what more important to the user, the trap effect or the utility.

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Strange thought, do you think it will be worth it to use the new trapper rune set in a power build? You can take the fire rune with ground targeting and just place it wherever to get the 3 sec stealth and speed. That build can be even more annoying.

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You can try my build, with the adjustments i added after patch(i like it alot). Just change the GS to axe/x . Its importent to note that when you go SB – axe-x in WVW you lack the mobility GS/sword-x give, so it can be hard to get out of dangerous situations.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNEQJAVRjEq0yaHLWsQ1aAAhaVA0OH23Yw9R0vjdKj6JSNB-TVCEAB2t/Amq/QwDAYLlgMp8zgLAgEHCg20FAwRAgUAlrMC-w

The GS in the build is more of a support weapon, you use it to runaway /block/stun+maul/ spam aa for evade etc…. most of the time you’r on SB.

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Watched it yesterday as well. This guy is amazing, fighting Koroshi(a very very strong condi engeneer) with only SOR and sigil of generosity as condi defence. I’m realy curious to see what he can do now after patch.

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@Fester.9328
hi again,
After reading reading your comments i think the build i posted will suit your needs, atleast in wvw. The sb/a-h combo realy works here. With spotter, sufry and full buffed u’r almost at 90% crit cahnce. horn 4 + axe 2 synergise with sharpend adges for ALOT of bleeds burt( not to mention when you combo it with entangle-krait rune).
Thats BTW why you want the extra condi buff from food, it will set each bleed from sharpend adges to 4sec(100% bleed druration buff) with out it its only 3sec. The food i recommanded combine and condi duration with some life steal, the best of the 2 worlds.
Regarding the sigil of battle: Its a filler sigil, you can replace it with alot of other stuff(like geomancy/doom/air,strengh,genorosity etc..) the sigil of battle is 20sec might so it will give some support to your SB as well, te might from axe is on a realy short duration, you stop the axe “aa” and might will drop very fast. But like you saied other sigils might be better. After giving it more thoght, I think spotter is the best 4 trait in marksmenship, SOTW is best(compared to sos,sor) and you should take jungle spider as second pet(i put fern hound).
Tommrow i’ll post a pve build.