Guild Wars 2

Crapgame.6519:

Seriously odd question since I usually don’t run front line in any zerg, what is the point being on the front line as a ranger? I see GS/Axe/Axe so trying to understand the play style since there is no bow involved.

Is it more support or is there offensive play here?

Thanks. Just looking to be enlightened.

Hi, its important to note that Rangers are not optimised for frontline compared to gurdains or warriors but we do it cus there are some prons for a ranger and we love the class.
The basic rotation is, muddy terrain on zerg+stability activation→dive into midle of zerg→HS→axe 5(it will split the enmey zerg)→swap to GS cleave as much as you can until you very low on HP→swoop to distance→ swap axe and spam AA→ heal to max and repeat.

Jim Hunter.6821:

LughLongArm.5460:

@Jim Hunter I ran with Bark skin last night but since it kicks in around 6k health it loses its effectiveness in larger fights.
bark skin is awesome, use this build to maximise the value.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQNAR3XjMq0yaHLOsw1aAChaVA0OG6gj1dSsDbdKz6DPBB-TVCBABccQAie/BOV/phjAgEPAAAuAAZp8jRlgIqbgUAspzC-

With this build you have like 31k life pool(with the gurds buff), so almost 8k with bark skin+enlargment for stability, damage and movement(you can save SoS for the last -5%-10% hp, re-position, range with axe, heal to max and go back in).

Axe 5 is a great way to split zerg, one of our best firstliner tools. you can swap muddy terrain/LR with SOTW and RAO with entangle for a more “controlled rotation cycle”.

That is a pretty interesting build. I wish there were ways to test out the different runes and armor without having to invest money in it. From what I remember those exuberance runes aren’t cheap.

Ya:( same for the sentinel armor…

@Jim Hunter I ran with Bark skin last night but since it kicks in around 6k health it loses its effectiveness in larger fights.
bark skin is awesome, use this build to maximise the value.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQNAR3XjMq0yaHLOsw1aAChaVA0OG6gj1dSsDbdKz6DPBB-TVCBABccQAie/BOV/phjAgEPAAAuAAZp8jRlgIqbgUAspzC-

With this build you have like 31k life pool(with the gurds buff), so almost 8k with bark skin+enlargment for stability, damage and movement(you can save SoS for the last -5%-10% hp, re-position, range with axe, heal to max and go back in).

Axe 5 is a great way to split zerg, one of our best firstliner tools. you can swap muddy terrain/LR with SOTW and RAO with entangle for a more “controlled rotation cycle”.

Taunt on pets actually makes tons of sense and opens up new functionality for defensive pets like bears. Also imbued into a shout like “Guard”( it fits like a glove and gives this shout an actual use).

BTW, if taunt can Interupt(and i think it can) rune of perplexity can be even more ridiculous.

A.net: We’ve also improved both quickness and slow. Currently, quickness will cause your cast bar to cut out early. With the improvement, your skill cast bar will smoothly update when you gain quickness or slow, even during the middle of using a skill.

That menas we actually can AA with GS+quickness and get very close to 100% evade(if we hit target) like memser Blurred Frenzy? Please confim…

Always fun to watch, thanx for video.

@Gotejjeken
If it works like Berserker Stance and you’ll hit your entangle after they pop out the stance it will just say “immune” and ignore your entangle completly. If you first hit your entangle and warrior than pop out Berserker Stance , he will just walk out of root and by the time the effect of the stance ends he will not have any immob on him(the immob ticks are for small duration). So either way, its a hard counter.

1)In its core, necro is much better to handle condies manipulation. Necro is a light armor, high hp pool class. revenant is a heavy armor medium hp pool class. And necros have another set of hp bar. Playing condi manipulation with revenant will be like palying with fire, high risk high reward. a missplay will get you dead, i think this stance desperately rely on resistance, tkae it away from the revenant and he’s dead.

2) Lots of the new tech will be implented into the necro the same way torment had so no worries.

3)GS will most likly will give necros a mobility skill, necros true biggest weakness.

4)taunt not always > fear due to the benefits of condi duration – there are pros and cons to the fear being both condi and control effect.

Pros and cons – It won’t be as good in big team fights but perheps better in small scales and 1v1. No more S/D thief taking your 20 sec stability in 1 hit(it will be like with might, they take 1stack for each steal). + Ipredict Boon strip will be a much bigger thing after patch(and it will work like steal i tihnk, one stack at atime). Regarding Entangle, the new boon “resistance” counter this ulty completely, you can just walk out of it. So…. we’ll c.

Most condi -x-x-6-6-x builds are superior to LB builds in terms of 1v1.

1. Dont go 6/6/2 – 6/4/4 is greedy enough(some even go 6/2/6)
2. Take SoS
3.You dont have 2 go full zerk, you can minmax with kinght/cavalir/valkerie
4. Dont jsut spam LB 3 and 4, use it smartly
5.The s/d is more about evade and re-positon – try not to attack with this set 2 much. practice re-position with Sword 2 and evading enemy combos with sword 3 and dager 4. also, Most new rangers will take GS over S/D its easyer to learn.
5.Remeber that if you catch a shatter mesmer with your LB 4+ RP COMBO he most likly wont stand up after, so dont paly 2 much defence, offence is the LB best defence.
6. Give it some time, you cant learn a class in one day.
Have Fun.

Hi @Madisonlee , it seems and you and Prysin are talking about different game mods, Prysin just presented the might stacking concept, the build he prsented is a WvW build, meny like the GS on WVW due to block and mobility and not as pure combat weapon. You are coming from pvp point of view in which BM builds actually function very well due to “low stats” environment. I gree with you that any bunker ranger build will be much much more effective as a “condi damage” build and torch is the star the condi damge weapons. With this setup you benefit from the defence and sustain of an healing bunker, the condi damge of a condi build and raw damage from pets(from the axe might stacking). The build weakness is condi defence and EB is a dilema becauseyou want to enable your pet. SOW is to much value to give up on, LR is a must and gurd is like the backbone of the build, so no palce for SOR.
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQRBMfdG2JjK0LotsgFLQ1iBwEq2JQnGAvGV3XwCMxH8r2D-TJhHwAPLDQ4JAA4kAAa/BA

Hi,
1. The build insane healing capabilities plays around most condi attatks, you and pet have prema passive healing of 380 per sec(more than a warrior healing sigent) and thats without using your healing skill. evasive purity to get poisin out of you and if its realy, realy an issue, you use HS as main heal or equip the condi removal sigils(on swap). The drake BTW with his huge HP pool and 380 pasive healing, can eat condi for days.

2. regarding camps – agro them in one palce palce → entangle(with krait rune)+bonfire+axe AA+drake F2 – BOOM, all dead. Not sure your build can do it faster.
Anyhow , your original argument is solid, ranger benefit from might twice, pet with 25 might(even if its “only” 750 power and condi damage) is a scary thing.

Hi @Prysin
The veterans of this forum probably rememer the old school RRR build popularized by
Faux(0-0-6-6-2). While his original build was very efficient, it actually got much better after the buffs to- entangle, signets, axe, torch and horn(as a substitute for dagger). The reason i think most players doesnt like it nowdays, is because: 1. They got tierd of it 2.playing ranger as power is more fun for roaming (the fast killer over the methodic slow killer). 3.LB is the shiny new toy(and must be played with 6 in Marksmanship) 4.“Gurd”, pet managment is abit annoying. 5.The build is almost useless in big fights.
You’ll probably argue that your build is not condi so meny of my points are irrelevant, you may be right but while your build may be fun to play, its much less effective compared to the old RRR setup(and your original post is all about efficiency).

The updated RRR build, one of the most OP 1v1 builds ever – http://bit.ly/1DuTy9X
(can also be played with RAO and aristocracy rune, for a more might stacking version)

celec hybrid version – http://bit.ly/1G7lCOI
(can also be played with SB instad of S/T, more pet damage and raw power damage)

OMG Justine thank you for posting, found link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CV2ardN2has

Hi Dash, there is another Power LB ranger with rune of the mad king, posting on forums his videos. This guy also uses two traps and its working kinda nice for him. Trying to find link …. grrrr

@YuiRS
What are you talking about? Warriors already got that, its called “kill shot”- better range, same cool down, better damage, faster activation/skill duration. + they have volley on the same weapon which is basicly almost as good as RP. And dont forget the 100B on the second weapon ^^
Enjoy : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReYGfRGiuNw

Just Kepp in mid that Bazil guide(witcher’s links) are for experienced players. I have seen meny beginners run with the build and go down in 2 sec in open world bosses and doungeons. Its the best DPS build for PVE atm and i would definitely recommand it if you mastered your dodging skills.
I made some litle changes to the original build for the learning curve with affordable gear.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNMQJATRjEq0qaFLmsw1ag9gadAEwjO3MoD8VFZMUJvgA-ThhBwAA8N4Psp+zKdBFV+FRJ4BzfkBIfLA-e

The wepaons(knight stats) are from sorrow’s embrace PVP track(Its available atm, you can get the 2 weapons in 2 days, kinda easy).

armor and trinkets are from Keeper Jonez Deadrun in Orr. You can have full armor and trinket set(zerk armor/soldair trinkets) for like 450,000 karma.
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Keeper_Jonez_Deadrun
You can also just get the trinkets for karma and buy the armor on AH.

Until you save up for runes and sigils buy ruby orb(very cheap) and ruby jewels for trinkets. I put a cheap versions of foods and utility.

Congrats, U’r like 80% of the top end game gear after couple of days of normal playing. If you have a guild/team/freinds feel free to take this setup to every doungeon(like Fluffball suggested), you will be able to clear most of them.

Good Luck.

Hi m8, Welcome to GW2. GJ on buying GW2 for 10$, best value for money deal ever.
You went from 0 to 80 in one week, you obviously know how to play mmo’s. My tip for you, unlike most mmos, gw2 has a flat widthwise itemisation progression. So, its very easy to get an “exotic”(orange) gear set, you dont need even to farm for it, just play the game. The ascended set will take some time(the best gear in the game) and expect for like 10-15% stats boost at most(from extoc to ascended). so how to get?

exotic weapons – I think the best way is the reward system in PVP, choose a reward track that rewarsd you with weapons of your desired stats(if avilable). The pvp experience will also help decide what kind of gear you are looking for(sigils/runes/stats etc…)

Armor/runes/sigils – just buy it on AH, you can buy yellow versions if you lack the gold.

trinkets – Buy for karma in orr temple vendors(best use of karma in the game, dont feel bad for wasting it, you wont know what to do with it in the future.

Ya, i see your point….

Thanx for answer. I thought it will be somthing like, when you press the F2 with druids, your pet will dissapear and will be replaced with temporary buff(for you and your group). The buff is connected to the pet used for activation.

@Chrispy.5641
WoW man, this is amzing, the way you detailed the specializations system more than a year ago. The thing i don’t understand with your desighn, if the specializations system is just an “achievement-title” for unlocking new skills/traits/weapon(dynamic aspect of the game), how will they handle changes for the mechanic(static aspect of the game)? Will we be able to change our mechanic system the way we change pets(change, not swap ) or will there be a tradeoff(old mechanic for rangers, new mechanic for druids, this option will also be folloewd with additional tradeoffs for the subclass, like staff for a bow, new for heal for heal as one, new ulty for rampage as one etc…).

Another awesome video Fox, its great to see you back on your ranger. I was quite suprised by your last build tech, always thought you dislike might stacking ranger, by the looks of it its not bad at all. I had just one thought in my head regarding your build, the ~-60%condi defence basically reduses the effectiveness of EB by ALOT, on this rare occasion it might be btter to use bark skin instad, or even go 4-6-4-0-0 with moment f clarity(with your GS- S/A setup can be alot of fun) if you chose this direction, experiment with fernhound or boar as a replacment for spider, you already got the pet speed trait hope to see your soon on OS ^^.

@mistsim if are in the heart of zerg u’ll be alright, so much aoe condi cleans going on.You also have 3 condi cleans on demand(SOTF+HS). If its realy an issue, you take swap one of the pets for brown bear for the extra condi removal.

Nothing personal @Fluffball i know you’r one of true oldschool veteran rangers, its just that tym focused on your first option and kinda ignored the other 2(change the order mybe ^^) …

“Play another profession” is a terrible suggestion. If you “love your ranger” here in the rangers forum we need to give you good tips that will help you enjoy your rangers in any scenario.
The following builds are for zerg WVW gmae type(your prefered zerg game type, rangers are awesome roamers BTW, but its a different story)
1. if you love your LB as main weapon –
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQNBjYDbkRlWWbVxhFiWDsHUrDgAuBYeBjgznoKq4jdA-TViFABLcQAST3Qhq/87+DA8AAOS5HDHBA9UCKwFAgUAlLMC-w
Best in organised zergs wehre you have teams of “back liners” composed mostly of rangers and eles. The build will give you enough sustain vs Retaliation(your biggest enemy) good personal dmage and buff for other “back liners”. The pets are for buffs only, keep them on non aggression mode. Your s/h is for mobility and buff support, dont go attacking with it unless you have to. If the psirits doesnt work for you, change to SOTW and RAO, take strengh of spirit or nature’s bounty instad of vigorous spirits.

1. If you love you GS as main weapon –
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQNAR3XjMq0yaHLOsw1aAChaVA0OG6gj1dSsDbdKz6DPBB-TVCBABccEAie/BOV/RiHAAAXAgsU+xoSQGOIAIqbgUAsJMC-w
Dont be afraid to be firt liner, with 30k hp(with gurds bonus), almost 3k armor , bark skink and SoS its very hard to take you down. RAO and enlargment give you good stability uptime (your damge is at his best under 50% hp). When needed and after you used all your CD’s feel free to take a stap back switch to axe, with the might staking for you and your pet.
GOOD LUCK

Hi, some builds with different mobility solutions( you already covered traveler and SOTH)
1. Rune of the pack, i think its one of best value rune for power ranger, it a great filler for swiftness, fury and even buff your pet if in range.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQNAT8YjMq0yaFLOsQ1ag+ga9CEAjdrfwdTEEpdJj6A-TVyEABspb46jAgbPAgAuAAYpEMJlf2s/AAHEAFV/hUAVsMC-w
while out of combat just kill few mobs with s/d and stack 4min swiftnees in 30 sec, from there just play normal, u’ll be suprised how much random killing u’r doing during roaming. Your swifntees wont drop below 1-2 min. while in combat, pack and bird give you 100% swiftness uptime+ swiftnees you already stacked. Build is tanky and doesnt sacrifice to much dps due to 100% fury uptime. You have big flexsebility with utilities, you can change entangle to RAO and SOTW to muddy terrain. very good stats, defence utilities and anti -condi defence.

2. Trap power ranger, rangers that use it, love it. Super speed+swoop can take you long way, and the stealth can help you escape bad situation like no other build. You fill the lack of damage with long poison durations and some burns. You can also take sharpened adges if you like it. less defence utilities but stealth and mobility.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQJATRjEq0ya3KurQ1ag+ga9BEAjdrfg9/OClQJjqC-TVCEABZfEAi7CAw9+DE8AAaS5HgKBB4QA0o6PupLgUAmJMC-w

LB Power rangers are about putting alot of pressure and control the the battle by kiting the opponent with distance control, stealh, knockback etc.. . This build is one of the best i have seen, published by flopy the rabbit(potatoveg) but requeirs high learning courve.
The build :
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQNAT8YjEq0yaFL+rw1ag+ga9DEAjdzfYFY+vfQJfqI-TFTEABKqWBUKJg7CAAwBBYgHAAiqqwlSwoUmZ0+DMpUwhjAQb6GCAcAc+5ZezDO/8zP/8z78zP/8zPvUAVsAA-w

flopy(potatoveg) channel : https://www.youtube.com/user/BlueFlopy/videos

You die to Retaliation? Your build is no good for zerg vs zerg battles, its simple as that.
Just use somthing like – http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQNBjYDbkRlWWbVxhFiWDsHUrDgAuBYeBjgznoKq4jdA-TViFABLcQAST3Qhq/87+DA8AAOS5HDHBA9UCKwFAgUAlLMC-w
Stand in the back with the other rangers and eles, pets on “calm” mode, only function as buffers. You’ll deal lots of damage, you’ll support “back line dpsers” and you wont die to Retaliation, even with with piercing arrows.

@Justine.6351
Hi m8, cool to see you’r open minded for changes.
The Protect Me actually sounds very nice due to the stun break benefit.
I think 2 trap and trappers expertise are an over kill for a non trapper build. The Poison trap alone is giving so much value with your setpp up, in aaddition to the over 20sec poison up time and weakness on swoop, its the only trap that triggers physical damageX3, each trigger can crit and activate sharpened edges. Take the spider not for the poison, unless its a “forest spider” the poison arch attack on spiders is very unreliable vs other playes. Take jungle spider for the double immob(crazzy good with malicious training) , it can win you the duel, you can chain spider immob with your elitle to secure the hit(same goes for wolf fear). Another benefit of the spider is that he’s not moving so much which is good due to your pet lack of speed bonus. For the extra trait take somthing defensive like SoS LR, SoR or stick with SOTW.

The only aswer i can give you is when its absolutely necessary. With your armor rating SoS passive will give you like 7% damage reduction, thats abig deal. If you got stunned and going to eat full duration of Hundred Blades, by all means, use it.
About sotw, the passive with no healing power is ok but not huge. BUT your build lack travel speed and stun defecne, use SOTW when you need the sstability or the extra speed. your damage is so high it shouldnt be a priority.
I also think you should take wolf over bird with jungle spider and malicious training(over sigent mastery). Also for non condi damage users, viper nest actually does more damage than fire trap.

Hi, liked your build, with the addition of mad king rune, fire trap and sharpened edges you make some realy nice combos. I dont like the way you are using your utiliteis, it looks like potion drinking in diablo 2, OMG OMG OMG press press press. Meny times you use SoS before even using HS why? you use sotw while standing still or taking damage for no good reason. You use SICe’m at the start of the combat, while u dont realy have to cus your RP follows your target anyway. I think the skill “clicking” its what limiting your ability to land pbs, try key binding so u’ll be able to look up the screen more and find an opening. Dont get me wrong, i realy liked your video and your twist to the LB build.

a/d-s/t -balance your evade capabilities for both weapon sets, same for the poison uptime. It also lets you use the the bonefie+leap combo for even greater value.
If you replace sic’em no real place for soldair like Siroso saied. basicly you only need the “gurd” shout for prema swiftness and regen. There are meny “gurd” builds you can do with both celes and settler, if u’r willing to give up the “shout build theme”.

@Siroso.2769
Hi, i was looking to maximise the efficiency of a “shout” theme build, your change to krait(wich works best with shapened edges and sb-axe-dagger) and the addition of LR is just a different build(0-2-6-6-0, with SOTF, posted not so long ago by “ROME”. the benefit of soldair is big just with gurd u get condi removal every 12 sec on demand, its 2 condi removal every 24 sec(like muddy terrain +sotf for you and your teamates) its a big deal. Also the stats of soldair putting you almost at 3k armor 20k hp, the ultimate bunker stats.
in conclusion, SHOUT build is not a meta for a ranger, but can be fun and cool to play(also look strong). If you want a bleed build, checkout ROME build, very strong.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/ranger/Rome-s-Survival-Condition-Ranger-sPvP/first#post4532884

Well, if u’r going with with the “shout” theme, you might want to take soldair rune and rabid amulet. stick with axe-dagger / sword-torch(in that set up). You can also change EB to poison master with 2 birds(with soldair u have enough condi removal). Also changed HS to TU(u had like 200% regen uptime potential, no need for that) Natural protaction to evasive purifay(3k armor u dont need np, another condi removal is much better). Also took expertise trainig, its not that good but the 90sec on the stun removal just make it a better choise.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQRAnY8fnEqQrgWLI+CCVLGgSoaHAlaO/6Hc/BTwGXwkD-TJRHwABeCA82fIZZAAnEAA

I play an hybrid version of this build in hotjoin spvp for awhile now. This is my take on it:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQJAVRjEq0ya/KWsQ1agDhq9K0uTNrA4dxus3cBTOA-TpBFABAfIAa7BAkwRAAqyAAcBAGZ/BA

Very strong build, wins 90%+ 1vs1 in hotjoin.

Nice video man.

If you want a BM twist to a LB build you need to adress also the BM side of the build.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQNBjYDbkRlGW7XxiFuWDQIUrDg3tqZdAvX2ntnPZXFYC-TFyEABspbIgLAAkq/okyv+UCaz+DAcQAY4JAEAAB4m3MA4m38mH9oJFwFDjA-w

pet’s prowess is a must, changed eagle eye to spotter(effect both you and your pet) , sigent mastry(changed to 3 sigents, the QZ was just greedy). Took intimidation training to spam with eagle/hwak(value combo), horn and rune of pack for long fury and speed uptime for both you and your pet. changed gear for more tanky stats.

Not the best setup but can be done, somthing like this –
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQJATVjEq0yaDL+rw1ag+ga9DEAjdzfYFY+vfQJr4J-TFCFABV/AAa7IAAwlAoQ1fuSJISK/STXAO7PQKgKWGB-w

rabid is what you need, full armor and accessories, giver for weapons. Rabid is not full condition approach, its also give presicion which is much more important for your build than power. Take Prickly Pear as food and toxic oil as utility(100% bleed druration and 70% crit chance with fury). 2 birds and muddy terrain ifyou dont mind the slow running.
change oakearslave to off-hand training its very good with bonfire. If you stick with oakheart, nature’s bounty> nature protaction.

1) Keen Edges procs Sotf
2)Attack of opportunity count towards first attack only

Nice man, thank you.

hi @Sagramor, look closly, Fox also have SOTF version for his build, 0/4/4/6/0 he plays with it in the second half of the video. Regardless, the 0-6-6-2-0 set up with EB and MoC could also be nice(GS and of hand axe….) AND i like @Sube Dai setup as well, looks very solid, excellent stats distribution.

Hi Sagramor, there are meny builds “like this” around but due to changes to traits they look abit different, like today no one will go 0-3-6-5-0 when they can go 0-2-6-6, sotf>furious grip. and cus sotf can also replace EB they’ll go like 4-4-0-6-0 and so on… thouse setups are evolutions builds of the same main idea. It realy reminds me fox builds just with axe in main hand instad of a sword. check it out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_fLGdpzHrk&list=UUYclQDh7uLwSrS6ICtcPMWQ

Haaa the nostalgia, good times ItIsFinished, good times. BTW, how didnt you make updated Bleeding Hearts Build with krait runes?

Works perfectly fine for me, Love this skill.

Biggest problem of your build is the lack of movement speed. As a “chaser” with only one real gap closer, you realy need movement speed bonus, your dogs will suffer as well. Not sure about the poison master over EB, SOTF is not always enough condi removal as a pure melle. You might want SOR over sharpening stone, there is an overlap potential between the 2 anyway.

Nice duels samanosuke, reminds me of that time we duled like 100 times. Fox so OP he can keep the hawk animation over his head.

Another option – http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQNAR3XjMq0yaHLOsw1aAChaVA0OG6gj1dSsDbdKz6DPBB-TVCBABccEAM/gAE9+Dcq+jEPAAAuAAZp8jRlgIqbgUAsJMC-w

Ya, but i dont know why, on my comp when i quickness stomp it sometimes doesnt finish the opponent or finish him 1 sec after stomp ended.
BTW, dont take the build head to head vs Bakeyy, his build counters this build very strongly. Duel him with somthing like :
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQNAV8YjEq0yaHL+rQ1aABhaVA0uGu3Ww9QcDfdJfKK-TpBFwAx2fwxRAo9DAYxBBoaZAAXAAA