Eh, I’m just going to say deal with it because we all know the dev’s won’t fix this. I don’t stomp because I find it a whole lot more fun DPSing somebody down, nailing them with five stacks of confusion and watching them kill themselves. I found when you stomp, you make yourself vulnerable and everyone’s gonna pop their interrupt on you, so what should take five seconds now takes seven or eight. Would rather have my skills and movement than that.
SF the only reason you aren’t winning is because you use too many ppl for everything! you just zerg everything wether it’s a keep or a camp. This is dumb. By doing so you let other servers control many more camps (most of the time towers too) than you all weeks. In the ends it does make a difference. You not winning is not about FC having more players it’s about you trying to zerg everything and having no roaming group cauz of it.
I don’t remember things that way; I remember DH capping us at night so we had things to take back in the day, we have (Might be ‘had’ at this point, I’m not entirely sure) a roaming group that currently isn’t on, and we don’t always travel in a huge zerg. We also had an away team that would cap DH and FC’s BL given the opportunity, but yet we were always outnumbered by the enemy zerg. Sometimes we pulled through, sometimes we died. Those were good fights that were worth fighting. Don’t try to tell us something that isn’t true. That and you weren’t on our side when PUBs left the main group to go do something.
Glad FC and DH are working together to beat the stuffing out of us last minute. Says a whole lot about you guys*. After we lost the majority of our group at about 3 pm, and you guys* got a sudden surge* of people*, I guess congratulations* are in order in here. Bravo*. Sure showed us.
Feel free to sub in different words where the stars are.
Are you serious right now?
If it looks like a log.. and it smells like a log…
My guess.. its more than likely a LOG
Glad FC and DH are working together to beat the stuffing out of us last minute. Says a whole lot about you guys*. After we lost the majority of our group at about 3 pm, and you guys* got a sudden surge* of people*, I guess congratulations* are in order in here. Bravo*. Sure showed us.
Feel free to sub in different words where the stars are.
Are you serious right now?
Nope, just grumpy. Tired as hell and starving, so that probably explains why I’m a little bit delirious at the moment.
Glad FC and DH are working together to beat the stuffing out of us last minute. Says a whole lot about you guys*. After we lost the majority of our group at about 3 pm, and you guys* got a sudden surge* of people*, I guess congratulations* are in order in here. Bravo*. Sure showed us.
Feel free to sub in different words where the stars are.
we don’t have any agreement. DH isn’t going to win but they are in the position to decide who does, and apparently they decided they want us to win instead of you.
there has been no communication between servers that I am aware of and I would know if there was.
Sure seemed like you guys were, but I guess that’s all circumstantial evidence. Just seems more than coincidence that we have thirty of our people on our BL and EB drop and then we see FC pour into SM, while DH rolls over our BL and our territory in EB. You guys aren’t attacking each other, or so it would seem at that moment, just focusing us so what are we supposed to think or feel? Whatever, guess it’s my imagination.
Glad FC and DH are working together to beat the stuffing out of us last minute. Says a whole lot about you guys*. After we lost the majority of our group at about 3 pm, and you guys* got a sudden surge* of people*, I guess congratulations* are in order in here. Bravo*. Sure showed us.
Feel free to sub in different words where the stars are.
Things never change… I go into EB and DR is blaming numbers, SF fairweather baddies are running pure glass, and mediocre GoM thieves spam /laugh when they kill some poor uplevel.
Sincerely,
Detective Miss Winters,
Very Good Detectives [VGD],
“We make Devona’s Rest free of crime!”
I don’t really care that much about the junk you get in WvW, mostly salvageable items that I could care less about. What I do care about is Badges of Honor, and those suckers used to drop like candy before the World Rank update. Now, I’m lucky if I get one or two every five bags.
You seem to be neglecting the fact that you can kill the siege commander and the players following him. They are counter-able, and not entirely invincible, that and it helps stop spawn camping as well as providing much needed supply to players.
I get the feeling the Karma train along with the PvE commanders rolled around EB thanks to a comparatively easy week, considering after what we went through with Kain and YB. Yeah, it felt good crushing you guys underneath our boots and having numbers that the other two always seemed to have felt good as well. I do like the fights we get into, but after a while, it gets dull.
While Scarlett claims to be the leader, I think there’s someone above her. Why else would all of her plans fail? She’s just the distraction and everyone’s taking the bait.
Didn’t turrets used to do that way back in beta but they fixed those? If you change the utility of a turret while it’s active, now it will explode but I’m pretty sure it used to just stay out.
Can’t say I recall that in beta, but then again I can’t remember where I put my keys half the time, so it’s likely they did.
Though in the spirit of staying on topic, I don’t feel Elixir X is any less useful than either of the forms available to the classes it draws it’s RNG from. I think that Elixir X is actually more powerful as it can be traited for both cd reduction and longer duration in contrast to Warrior and Elementalist that can do neither.
I agree with some of the positives Elixir X has going for it, again I don’t think it’s useless just not very good and in need of improvement.
What about my most significant concern, the RNG? When you’re fighting against someone and you want a boost to grant stability and take them down quicker, you want Rampage. What do you do if you get Tornado? In my experience you can’t really hurt them with Tornado, they just stay out of the circle. The Stability is great, but they can just pick you off from about 600 range and you can’t do anything about it. Even if they have no range whatsoever they can literally stand outside the circle and watch you waste your elite.
Sadly, I have found the most effectively thing in that situation is just to cancel Tornado, and no elite skill should ever be most effective by cancelling its use altogether.
If I’m missing something I’d love to be enlightened, but in a 1v1 situation I can’t understand how I would ever want Tornado and that is a good example of why Elixir X is frustrating to me. I don’t have a problem with either form individually, but getting one when you need the other is just infuriating.
Dude, try and keep your opponent in the circle. If they stay in there longer than three seconds, they get knocked down. Personally though, I’d never pop Elixir X on a 1v1.
Well, there aren’t any real counters for arrow carts yet but depending on the situation, you can hit them with catapults, ballistas, or trebs and they will be destroyed. You can also rush it and physically attack it to kill it, but that only really works when it’s out in the open and there’s only a few. You can also counter an AC with another AC, but if you’re doing that, you’re probably already within range. If the ACs are on walls, get your rangers and eles to AoE them, usually the best method. Unfortunately, the siege golem’s 3 doesn’t block against ACs.
Yamsandjams, I was stating that one thing they could do was put an item in the gem store that reverts an item that’s soulbound to account bound, which then becomes soulbound again upon being equipped. That way ANet would get a bit of cash with each time someone wanted to move around the item to another character. Putting a cost on moving them will make it so that they still can’t be moved nearly as much as a normal account bound item, but are still able to be moved if something new comes out that is cooler looking. Player will then buy the new item, as well as the unbinding item from the gem store, so like I said, it’s a win/win. Players get the limited ability to move their soulbound stuff to another character, and ANet gets a bit of extra gem purchases.
I am writing this as a favor to you in order to inform you that you do not need quite so many people to take a non upgraded supply camp. It is doable with less and in truth one person can capture a supply camp and have it done before the swords appear.
If you wish I can train your people how to do it solo and can accomplish that training with a Guardian, Mesmer, warrior or any class that suits you. The cost for that training will be 5 gold per person but wait, there is more! If you sign up before the end of the month I will cut the cost to only 4 gold per lesson!
I suppose however there is that fear factor involved from being alone for the first time. Sadly I cannot teach you courage, that is something you must do by yourself.
Yeah, it would be nice to have people on our server that can do small group capping or solo capping, but the amount of people in your screenshot is our WXP Train.
The karma train for SF has been strangely absent since we stopped fighting AR and ET for the fifteenth million time.
Pretty much. I currently have an interrupt warrior that I feel dirty when I play her, but not really. Saw one guy in a zerg I stomped/hammer burst/juggernaut into and he had 12 stacks of confuse. Did not feel a bit guilty about doing it, either.
I like how you mention what should be several interrupts but you applied the confusion of just your first interrupt for a warrior…
Oh no, this was over the course of like, twenty seconds and I ran into a huge zerg. I spammed all my AoE stuns and interrupts to make sure that everyone had a stack of confusion. You’re also neglecting Distracting Strikes, which makes it about 4 stacks of confusion each interrupt.
Since I run a HGH build, Elixir X is incredibly good on it…But you’re neglecting what else Juggernaut form does. Every third attack in your 1 chain dazes for one second. Your 2 allows you to kick an enemy back. 3 is a charge and while I’m not sure if it interrupts, it gives you a great gap closer. 4 gives you a ranged attack and possibly another interrupt and 5 is an AoE interrupt. There’s still a lot of CC to be had in that form.
The overall theme with the engineer kit is learning how to adapt and when you pop the wrong form, well, you could toggle out of it and wait another 90 seconds, but personally, I make the best out of each form.
I read some posts and ideas from other players, some of those are downright bad and counterproductive. Perhaps for each good idea, there are 10 bad ones. I understand why the devs don’t care about forums now. Imagine, being wage-slaved into having to read all that crap, how terrible and how lackluster one’s life must be, no wonder the world runs on anti-depressants.
This week in WvW for me has been a Yak’s Bend zerg here, a Yak’s Bend zerg there, a Yak’s Bend zerg everywhere! So I hope Devon and his team figure something out to balance the servers, however, I understand if nothing gets done either, my brain is numb from just 15 or so posts. I don’t know how you guys deal with all that crap day in and day out, but you should all take a month-long vacation and come back with a solution, provided you can stay away from these boards.
That’s what I realized earlier today, though my brain hasn’t quit yet.
Let us compare Scarlet to the rest of the villains in the Guild Wars 2
Canach
-Awoken the Karka
-Escaped arrest and hid for a few months
-Decides to become a hero of settlers trapped by contract in Southsun Cove, by having the Karka attack innocent people.
-Arrested… Kiel blows up consortium ship holding contracts and blames it on Canach
Caudecus
-Puts on a public face to win public’s favor while his goons create upheaval
-Pays for carnivals
-Kidnaps Queen, but is almost killed when his thugs turn on him and the queen.
-Placed on time out under the Queen’s watch.
Zhaitan
-Raises Orr and a dead army
-Tehearne does his mojo and undoes Zhaitan’s mojo slooooowly
-Patiently waits as you shoot him with rail gun to kill him
Karka Queen
-Dipped in lava after one long bad day in November
Kudu
-Look at me I am so intelligent, and this “insert device” will kill you
-Runs off escapes, and Zojja gets kitten y he got away
-Decides to stay and fight in Crucible of Eternity and dies… surprise.
Gaheron Baelfire
-Wants to become god of the Flame Legion
-Becomes god for 5 minutes
-Dead
Faolain
-Drama and Caithe drama drama drama drama drama
-Drama drama drama
-Still a better story that twilight (Why in the hell did I say that?)
Scarlet Briar
-Went crazy, master portals, killed her Asura teacher and told off “her mother”
-Created an alliance between Flame Legion and Dredge
-Uprooted Norn and Charr from their homes
-Persuaded The Molten alliance to build weapons
-Sent an assassin to kill Lion’s Arch council members
-Attacked Lion’s Arch to finish the job
-Disrupted a Lion’s Arch election
-Interrupted Queen’s ceremony, almost killed Queen, almost blew up Divinity’s Reach
-Invaded different parts of world with her axis of evil minions
-Held hostages, almost ate Ferran, fought players and escaped with speech and fireworks
-Sent you gift to show you there was no hard feelings
Now looking at all this, who has personality? Who is still alive? and who is the better villain?
How do you get more power? By increasing your vitality and eating +6% vitality to power and +4% toughness to power. You use a bloodlust sigil. You use dragon’s breath bun type food. In this way, I don’t care if you’re ranger or thief. You will get more power and do more burst on that 1 shot. This is the 1 shot build whether you believe it or not.
Again: if a ranger is on tape doing a 23,000 crit on an upleveled weakling, I’m sure thief can crit much harder. Or are you admitting that thief cannot burst like ranger? Lol
I got you guys between a rock and a hard place. Either you admit ranger can burst more than thief or admit that thief can crit more than 5k.
Too lazy to do calculations, so would you kindly present them?
I don’t actually know which can burst more, hence asked to see some numbers. I just told what damage I do with backstab. Granted, I do not have a glass cannon purely build to see big white numbers on screen. I thought it was not about who can build most glassiest cannon out there, rather thief balance and especially stealth.
Sure thief can backstab more than 5k, even my thief with PTV gear does 5k. I don’t know what you are really after. Winning forum argument with semantics?
I tried to calculate it above, but I got about 4.7 k and that was it. I’m thinking the formula the guy gave me was wrong.
SOR is karma training, and not defending so FA and DB can karma train and we can karma train it back so FA and DB can karma train that then we karma train it again.
SOR is karma training, and not defending so FA and DB can karma train and we can karma train it back so FA and DB can karma train that then we karma train it again.
It’s not that complicated, believe me. I was thinking it could be done client side rather than on the server. All they would need to do is take a small scan every five to ten seconds for player characters. If that number is less than twenty, don’t do anything. However, if it is greater, then activate the debuff. Simple as that.
Also, with the limits removed, I ran the numbers of y=1.06^(20-x) equation to simulate the effectiveness. In a 35 people zerg, players would have 42% of their original stats while a lone player would have 303%! The numbers can always be played with to get the result you want, but at the end of the day, the zerg will eventually disappear.
Now I know you don’t have a clue what you’re proposing. Go ahead and do the calculation client side … the EFFECT of the constantly changing buff needs to be reapplied to everyone on all sides of the battle. That’s every bit as taxing to the game engine as if the calculation was done server-side.
Maybe I don’t have a clue, but this is when somebody who does has experience in that field takes my suggestion and actually works it out. It could be a bit much for the server, but how would we know until we tested it? Perhaps they should focus on optimizing their game first.
They’re going to get nerfed. With as much confusion, bleeding, burning, poison, and might I can stack up on my Engineer, the build is flat out uncounterable. Condition clears? Yawn. Just a slower death. Multiple targets? All the interrupts I use are multi target (Supply Crate, both shield skills, Air Blast) and Static Shot, pistol #3 that inflicts confusion and blind, bounces.
It’s the Oprah show and you get 20 stacks of confusion, and you get 20 stacks of confusion, and you get 20 stacks of confusion! Confusion stacks for everyone!
An ICD is not only a good idea to preserve some semblance of game balance, it’s an inevitability.
Add Tool Kit to that and everyone gets 25 stacks! 25 to you! 25 to you! 25 to even you too!
The first half of the week Anet developers were posting to hype and help players. But now that they seen a problem with the fight. They are not saying much.
Silence tends to be what happens in the face of negativity (this is true of most gaming companies.) Josh’s brief posting spree was such a refreshing difference for the short while it lasted. But that’s now gone. It just seems they think being silent is better I guess? I dunno..
Yep, exactly this. It wouldn’t help that people get incredibly ‘passionate’ on the forums and yell from the highest mountain about how hard Teq is, that he’s impossible now, and whine whine whine. If I were a dev and saw everything people posted not fifteen minutes after the patch hit, I would wonder why I would bother with such a sour community. Granted, there have been people thanking the devs for presenting this challenge, but those are few and far between. This issue of gamers being incredibly vocal isn’t limited to just GW2 either. People wouldn’t even give it a day before dismissing the event as ‘dumb, would kill GW2, ggnorekthxbai’. Seems like people have no concept of time.
u guys have must have some serious problms about letting us take stuff back so kittened, take stuff so we can take back and then u guys take it back u guys dont even know how to karma train jeez, NO ONE CARES if u guys win or not NO ONE WILL DEFEND so dont even bother the moment we see a 60 man zerg we just wait untill u all are bored and gone and we take the sthit back no one even cares! so stop trying to defend kitten no one will pay attention and btw yesterday nice fail in EB trying to take our paper keep whit the trilion numbers u guys had haha, more omegas next time see if u get more luck.
What are you even talking about? From what I saw last night, HoD was busy sleeping on our BL.
Hey HoD and SF,
I understand that this must be a very frustrating matchup for you guys, YB’s WvW population has been there. For what it’s worth, I haven’t even heard of any of the named and shamed YB guilds mentioned, and they are not representative of YB WvW.
Blowouts like this tends to bring out a lot of new bloods that tend to do their own thing, for better or worse. Please don’t tar our whole community with the same brush.
Alternatively, please refer to YB as ‘The Evil Empire’. That’s a thing.
Apparently.
Thanks BP.
SF has had similar things happen in the past and while I understand it, something struck a nerve last night and I just had to tell people what actually happened. Between the golems hitting the keep, whoever was hitting Bravost and the sixty at QL, we had nowhere near that amount of manpower at 2 am. I thought I’d set the record straight. If it weren’t for SM, I’m sure we could have held on much longer, but everyone needed to get to bed at some point that night.
To those YB peoples who took QL and laughed at us, we managed to block your sixty man zerg with seven people. Seven, whole people. You still haven’t impressed us yet.
zergs will not go away. the only reason we dont like zergs is population imbalance and no rewards for defense. I’d rather have a 50 man zerg hitting our BL 1 thing at a time, than have 5 groups of 10 each hitting something different at the same time.
People complain about the zerg, then when I propose a solution, they want zergs back.
You see, as the number of players within a particular radius (x) increases, the stat multiplier (y) decreases exponentially, which means that after a certain number of people is reached, it starts to drop sharply. By having the limit of this be about twenty people in a 3000 unit radius, a group of 25 wouldn’t have the same reduction of stats as would a 30 man group would.
LOL. We already know that simply recalculating bloodlust buffs when capture points flip practically freezes the game for seconds, and that it is an unavoidable result of ANet using an outmoded game engine. Devon has even recently stated that to be the reason they can’t relax the AoE cap. So what on earth makes you think that a more complicated formula calculated real time is in any way feasible?? It would bring the entire game to its knees,
It’s not that complicated, believe me. I was thinking it could be done client side rather than on the server. All they would need to do is take a small scan every five to ten seconds for player characters. If that number is less than twenty, don’t do anything. However, if it is greater, then activate the debuff. Simple as that.
Also, with the limits removed, I ran the numbers of y=1.06^(20-x) equation to simulate the effectiveness. In a 35 people zerg, players would have 42% of their original stats while a lone player would have 303%! The numbers can always be played with to get the result you want, but at the end of the day, the zerg will eventually disappear.
Also as I noted in another thread, I really am not into ranks because of the abilities, I like it more because I get the kitten of seeing your rank increase and getting new titles. With the current system I feel such a lack of purpose when playing on alts because im currently rank 200 and when I get to rank 5 on an alt I get this sense that i haven’t actually gone anywhere.
Better yet, try being someone who regularly switches alts and keeps hearing one of his friends announce their rank whenever they rank up (I think they’re at 500 something now). Very disheartening, really, since I’m rank 5 on this alt ankitten ot moving anywhere.
As much as I love my golems and getting Golem masteries would be cool, the gates hardly last anymore, even though they are a pretty good chokepoint. If you give Alphas the ability to punch walls down, and Omegas stronger rockets, then what would the point of walls be? None. Heck, as we repeatedly flip towers and keeps, there’s hardly anything that is higher than T1, well, maybe except for the most diligent of players. It’s all paper now, the only thing stronger than paper is people.
Crit lives in the modifier portion. Some examples of potential Thief modifiers:
150% base crit
100% crit multiplier
5% Dagger Training
10% Exposed Weakness
10% First Strikes
7% Side Strike
20% Executioner
10% Fluid Strikes
10% Lead Attacks
5% Sigil of Force
5% Flanking Strikes
In reality a 300% modifier is pretty much top of the line. Even at 300% the thief has to give up either power or survivability. I did a 400% to illustrate just how ridiculous a 20k BS would be.
Well, that didn’t work, and every other way I manage to re-write the formula, I get the same result. I think something is squared in the formula. Or maybe, the double damage is multiplied at the end, I don’t know.
Crit lives in the modifier portion. Some examples of potential Thief modifiers:
150% base crit
100% crit multiplier
5% Dagger Training
10% Exposed Weakness
10% First Strikes
7% Side Strike
20% Executioner
10% Fluid Strikes
10% Lead Attacks
5% Sigil of Force
5% Flanking Strikes
In reality a 300% modifier is pretty much top of the line. Even at 300% the thief has to give up either power or survivability. I did a 400% to illustrate just how ridiculous a 20k BS would be.
Or there is a bug with the combat mechanics allowing much larger hits.
I listed bug in my original post as a possibility.
Hrm, I’m thinking that some numbers are multiplied differently than others. Like, if you multiply the original damage by the multipliers rather than adding the multipliers together, I think the number comes out to be different.
We can create Gold Doubloons, yet we can’t create Copper, Silver or Platinum….I guarantee that if Silver Doubloons were craft-able, we’d see the price drop faster than a lead weight surrounded by steel next to an electromagnet.
A shame to see pebbles going for a silver now, but I guess that’s the name of the game. I have no intention or desire to farm for legendaries, just too much time and money to get when I could be actually playing the game.
Shenanigans! Black powder hitting for 1.5k?!? math:
(84 * .25 * Power) * modifiers / Toughness
lets go crazy here:
(84 * .25 * 4000) * 4 / 2000 = 168
As for 20k BS… again the math proves it is virtually impossible (a thief with 4k power and 4 on the modifier is buffed to the gods with a perfect strike):
((806 * 2.4 * 4000) * 4.00) / 2000 = 15.5k
against 3k toughness
((806 * 2.4 * 4000) * 4.00) / 3000 = 10.3k
In these cases, IMO the combat log is flat out lying and likely clumping several hits from multiple sources into one, some chopping has been done or a bug/cheat is in effect. It is also somewhat curious that a medium health pooled player soaked up 36k damage in about 2 seconds and didn’t die.
WvW gets little attention because it’s not their money maker and never will be.
The majority of WvW or PvP’res in generally play for the fight not how pretty their character looks. PvE’re play for gear/progression and will invest a lot of time in trying to get the perfect look for their character.
WvW is the minority and we always will be. I bet they make more money of gems in the first week of a new content update then they have made in the history of the game off of WvW players.
Gear is cheap compared to the cosmetic stuff. You can gear an character out in full exotics for roughly 40 gold. That’s equivalent to the cost of 1 to 1.5 cosmetic items.
I guarantee there are people out there that have spent thousands of dollars on gems just for Keys to open Black Lion Boxes.
I know I threw $50 at about 60 keys or so, got about 6 months worth of boosts. I know I’ll probably throw $100 at it again this winter just to see what I get. Also, everyone threw the exchange rate off by converting so much gold into gems during Anniversary week.
You see, as the number of players within a particular radius (x) increases, the stat multiplier (y) decreases exponentially, which means that after a certain number of people is reached, it starts to drop sharply. By having the limit of this be about twenty people in a 3000 unit radius, a group of 25 wouldn’t have the same reduction of stats as would a 30 man group would.
The only way I can see Engineer a 1-mash class is if you’re running grenades, and the only reason is because we don’t have an auto attack. We aren’t button mashers, we’re pianists that follow a tempo and have so many abilities to our disposal.
