Guild Wars 2

Guardians are better off with a mix of Cleric armor with either Azulite or Soldier accessories, it’ll give you the toughness and vitality to survive while the healing power will help your allies. I don’t see how you surviving very long with a ’zerker setup, but if you manage to not die at all or just roam, you could stick with it.

You know, I’m actually happy that a lot of the achievement hunters came to WvW. I can’t tell you how many people probably have looked past it initially and now have a reason to explore. Everyone was complaining about how WvW was dying and it would never get people back, now we have more people playing it. Granted, they don’t have much of a clue of what’s going on, but that’s where the more experienced people come in to explain the rules to them. Granted, not all of them will stick around but there might be some that will, and I think that is a good thing. I guess only time will tell, really.

KumaTazZ.8054:

ANET should sell “Express Queue Card” in Gem Store, something work like year-ticket for sport fan.

Seems more akin to the ‘Alpha Membership’ that Planetside 2 already has.

Just do the two dailies and you’ll get it. Sheesh. And in case you’re wondering about the Badges of Honor, you can get your Ascended gear cheaper with the badges, just an FYI.

Jeknar.6184:

Runamok.9638:

How many people does CoSA have in its wings, branches, cabinets, sub-committees, and special boards? Sapphire, SoCo, Shiny, Slaphappy, kittenty, and what other S’s I am forgetting about. kitten has to operate like the Federal Gubbamint with all those people. Honestly the only tag I worry about on SF is CoSA and its because I know a whole bureaucracy full is bound to show up any time with its inane rules, special sub-section 6.1.3.a of master record 32 FTW, and gum up the whole works to the point you forgot why you even went to that objective. Even with the full bureaucracy full of people I don’t think I have seen them run as a guild only group, its always with PUGS like foreign indignitaries, Japanese pop stars, former North Korean Leaders, and last time I swear I saw Fidel Castro up in that mega-blob. With that many people its hard to tell who is naughty or nice in amongst their ranks, its just seas of red. Ohhhh well I guess its great I don’t have a conscious I like taking advantage of that lumbering bureaucracy and make away with stacks and stacks of bags.

-brotha

If I recall right, it’s 3 guilds… Sapphire, Scarlet and ‘Somenthing-I-Can’t-Spell’. So I’d assume it’s between 1000-1500. But i doubt they have 10% of that actually playing WvW at same time.

We were going to make CoMA (Core of the Marijuana Alliance), but we need more people for that.

I like how people seem to think taking down our mumble and website is an effective way to disrupt us last night, but all it did was confuse the people we were training that night. I’m glad people could resort to being so pathetic that they need outside help to try and take us down, says a lot about your character.

Runamok.9638:

melodey.4652:

Runamok.9638:

On a more series note, DH has gotta have the lamest forum presence in all of NA. They will get assigned to the Tin League once Forum Warrrioring Season opens up.

-brotha

I honestly think even our classic forum warriors were carebears at heart. DH PvF forever 3rd.
I miss you jaxx. Hope you’re still wooing all those ladies somewhere.. out there…
And everyone else ran off to greener pastures**.

**keep spending gems until you find said green-est perfect pastures plz and thank u ~luf anet.

Also, this is the first time Darkhaven and Eredon Terrace have ever met. Hai. It’s been a pleasure. Too bad SF keeps butting into our growing relationship. I’ve been trying to get to know you better but I think there’s about 8,000,000 CoSA who would rather skip the pleasantries and get straight to the mowing over to get to our keep lords.

How many people does CoSA have in its wings, branches, cabinets, sub-committees, and special boards? Sapphire, SoCo, Shiny, Slaphappy, kittenty, and what other S’s I am forgetting about. kitten has to operate like the Federal Gubbamint with all those people. Honestly the only tag I worry about on SF is CoSA and its because I know a whole bureaucracy full is bound to show up any time with its inane rules, special sub-section 6.1.3.a of master record 32 FTW, and gum up the whole works to the point you forgot why you even went to that objective. Even with the full bureaucracy full of people I don’t think I have seen them run as a guild only group, its always with PUGS like foreign indignitaries, Japanese pop stars, former North Korean Leaders, and last time I swear I saw Fidel Castro up in that mega-blob. With that many people its hard to tell who is naughty or nice in amongst their ranks, its just seas of red. Ohhhh well I guess its great I don’t have a conscious I like taking advantage of that lumbering bureaucracy and make away with stacks and stacks of bags.

-brotha

Was that even English? Dear God, the only things I got from that jumbled-up mess of a paragraph was ‘How many people are in CoSA again?’ and ‘The only thing I worry about in WvW is CoSA.’.

To be honest, we only have about 40-80 regulars on every day. The main reason why people see us so much is that we’re well-organized, highly mobile, and work together. There are three factions of CoSA, but CoSA green is inactive at the moment. CoSA red is PvE, and CoSA blue…well…seems like you already know about us. >:)

There’s a reason why PUGs stick with us other than that blue dorito on their mini-map screen, and that reason is we get things done and don’t bog people down with crap. If we did, you wouldn’t see so many PUGs following us. I know, we forget the pleasantries and get down to business with your keeps and everything, but the same can be said for ET and DH as well.

Also, we should be thanking you for the bags rather than the other way around. You guys always seem so determined to kill us, but pulling everyone from EB seems to work against you.

Hey, if you feel so inclined, come to SF. The WvW action is pretty tasty out here, and we only have 2-5 minute ques

Onshidesigns.1069:

Madora.9340:

skullmount.1758:

Kargath.6598:

This year its terribad, i will have to admit i was tingling with anticipation and when it came around it felt like the holiday got pooped on

I don’t even want to think what Winterdays is going to be like. With what they did to Halloween. I’m actually expecting extreme grinding now and lackluster (1 per account) rewards… I don’t want it and I hope I’m wrong, but thats probably how its going to be.

We do still have a patch left (with 2 weeks for whatever it adds), which may add ascent to madness (still need mad king says as well), but unless it somehow gives 50s/100s of the corn/materials, there is no way it can recover what was lost due to the changes for the first part/patch.

I’m nervous too. I don’t want to think about Winter’s Day either, but it’ll be here before you know it. It seems like they took everything that was slightly good about the Queen’s Gauntlet and strained only the bad pieces out. Still, we can only hope for the best.

They will NERF the Princess Dolls.

Probably. They’ll probably nerf all the holiday mobs along with their item drop rates. Meanwhile, they’ll introduce three new skins that you have no hope of getting in time.

skullmount.1758:

Kargath.6598:

This year its terribad, i will have to admit i was tingling with anticipation and when it came around it felt like the holiday got pooped on

I don’t even want to think what Winterdays is going to be like. With what they did to Halloween. I’m actually expecting extreme grinding now and lackluster (1 per account) rewards… I don’t want it and I hope I’m wrong, but thats probably how its going to be.

We do still have a patch left (with 2 weeks for whatever it adds), which may add ascent to madness (still need mad king says as well), but unless it somehow gives 50s/100s of the corn/materials, there is no way it can recover what was lost due to the changes for the first part/patch.

I’m nervous too. I don’t want to think about Winter’s Day either, but it’ll be here before you know it. It seems like they took everything that was slightly good about the Queen’s Gauntlet and strained only the bad pieces out. Still, we can only hope for the best.

I’ll add my two copper here as well (Since I started playing at the end of Halloween), and I’ll even say the content was gutted this time around when you compare 2012 to 2013. I mean, it is kind of interesting to bring up the Bloody Prince and have him be justifiably angry at his father, but he just comes off as a forgettable, angsty teenager with daddy issues. I never got to play in the original labyrinth, but even I can tell you that no matter how much you grind, you aren’t going to be able to get more than one or two cobs unless it is what you do all day and all night, and even then, you won’t get sufficient plastic fangs and the like for the legendaries. The doors don’t always let me enter, I’ve even gone ten doors in a row without a single one letting me in.

The problems I have noticed in the labyrinth are obvious to say the least; Count Viscount’s AOE spam sucks and the sugary coating doesn’t always proc’d correctly (His AoE locations change too and he could immediately follow up with his Throw Candy), Skeletal Lich spawns his 15 skeletons with retaliation which will mess your day up thanks to how clustered they get, the Horror sucks because he shows up at incredibly bad times (Like whenever you fight the Count or Lich and he just insta-downs your main group), immobilize really shouldn’t stack (Five Lunatic Rebels won’t let you do anything), the lack of a junk vendor/repairman in the labyrinth is a minor gripe and is more quality of life, and finally, the area of the labyrinth is pretty small for what should be considered a labyrinth.

I know I have a lot of gripes, but these flaws really show when you look at them as a whole. What I’m trying to say is that while I enjoy the event, somebody dropped the ball and made it a lot less enjoyable than last year and while I should be thankful that A-Net likes to make holidays feel special, this year’s Halloween really doesn’t feel spectacular with the new grinding. At least let us make Mad King Chests like before, that would ease the pain a bit more.

Sir Tripsalot.1803:

Runamok, for whatever reason whenever you end your posts with “-brotha”, I read it in Hulk Hogans voice.
If you don’t know what I mean, watch this video.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Z838LIaXZc4&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DZ838LIaXZc4

Oh dear God. XD This man wins the thread right here!

Runamok.9638:

Sir Tripsalot.1803:

Runamok.9638:

Shademehr.1397:

ptitminou.6489:

That would only have been more fun without the skill lag. Not saying we would have taken garrison, but it would have made the fights that much more fun and might have made the 29-golem rush a success since no one could get their skills off.

Lots of us were having the exact same problem, so I doubt the outcome would have been any different. This matchup is the first time I’ve ever experienced skill lag. I think it all may have just eventually turned into a big “smash #1 fest” for a bunch of us.

ptitminou.6489:

My opinion is you should have let it go and gone hit other targets for PPT since now you basically managed to get 2 of the biggest SF zerg teams to work together for a while which proves to everyone involved that it can make things happen. But I guess that 25 points really has a lot of sentimental value to you guys.

What can I say…we’re a scrappy lot. Thank goodness you weren’t in charge of our defense.

We’ve pretty much been dealing with massive (and I mean MASSIVE) SF zergs (sometimes 2+) in our BL plus some pretty decently sized DH zergs simultaneously. I think ET has done a pretty stellar job holding it together vs. a couple of servers that were ranked higher than us.

Win or lose this round, I think ET can be proud of what we’ve done so far.

Sounds like I missed a great night. The week for ET definitely has been a defensive scramble on all fronts. Spent the entire day yesterday responding to one crisis after another hoping back and forth from ET to EB. Our nimbleness makes up for our lack of pure force. Keep your heads up ET.

On another note, how does one NOT take Garrison with 29 golems. Really? I wish I was there on TS laughing my kitten off. Skill lag or not sounds like a colossal failure of epic proportions. I would quite commanding entirely if I put that kind of fail on the field or transfer servers. I hope someone built a shame ram on that commanders dead body once it was all over.

-brotha

Well we melted the gates pretty easily, but when we got to the lords room the skill lag was so bad that none of the golems’ skills worked, not even the 1 skill. So the skill lag turned our army of death machines into golem death traps.

Ive been through this before. Nothing you can do but spam 5 for 15 seconds to hop and to do things the old fashioned way. Sometimes you just can’t buy victory. Gotta react to changing conditions on the battlefield. Next time bring 30 golems, at 30 golems all server lag is designed to go poof, in fact it puts you into perma timewarp mode. But anyways, I am speaking out of kitten , I wasn’t even there last night…

-brotha

When we took SM for the fiftieth time that afternoon, I had a similar problem on my guardian and let me tell you, not being able to pop off shouts or your heals really puts things in a pinch for everyone. Still, had one heck of a good time duking it out with DH and ET in the ‘Fight House’.

Eye Mohini.7938:

clint.5681:

If you we’re using this forums search engine then yes it’s broken, terrible even.

1. “…but you guys have superior bloodlust…” – YB
2. “…YB why don’t you put another Superior Catapult…” SF/ET/??
3. “…times you’ve beaten us in a fight is with superior numbers or with siege…” – ET
4. “…when we don’t have siege or superior numbers, we obliterated you..,” – YB
5. “…before YB’s superior coverage took over…” – YB
6. “…knows PVGATE is a superior tactic…” – SF
7. “…we were overwhelmed by superior ACs and sheer YB brute force…” – SF
8. “…out a few times to wipe their Superior ACs…” – SF
9. “…can win fights against superior numbers…” – SF
10. “…CoSA has no issue losing fights to superior siege…” – SF
11. “…(I forgot we have been spawn camping you all week with our superior numbers…” – SF
12. “…laughed all week about their superior tactics, and superior numbers, and superior siege…” – SF
13. “…was not superior anything other than pure brute force population. I bow to your superior numbers but in no way should you think that I am impressed by some alluded to superior game play…” – SF

Counts:

ET: 1
??: 1
YB: 3
SF: 12

Atleast SF wins something this week.

I’m confused, what’s this about?

Runehand.9368:

IDK, 4 of us killed 8 of you outside of Hills. I’ve seen 30 of you run from 15 of us. Hell, 3 of us fought off 10 of you near the NW sentry, downed 4, and finally ended up fleeing. Also, you all (on both ET and SF) really like your glassy builds. It’s predictable to see you to blow your loads, then get caught with no cooldowns. It happens to the few roamers I’ve seen. But I’ve seen zerg fights where you either had the same numbers or greater where you’re just dripping trails of bags because it’s like people in zergs are allergic to PVT armor…

I’m 100% sure the PPT is entirely because of WvW populations. We get it and I’m not going to apologize for YB karma trains. I’m not going to apologize for fairweather’s ill behavior or anyone else’s for that matter. However, don’t hide behind false hyperbole.

Yak’s Bend was where you are now, against Dragonbrand and then Maguuma for months. We know the feeling. Your servers definitely have room for improvement. And you know what else? Yak’s Bend has a ton of room for it too.

As far as WvW being pointless? I don’t know if I agree. I’d say it’s more pointless for us. I know of multiple pure WvW guilds on YB who called it PvE this week because… why bother?

Hooray, the same old rhetoric. Same old, same old. And we keep saying the same things to you. Hell, we had some of our guilds transfer to your server the past two weeks. I don’t know the reason why, but it seems like your strategy is actually working. Then you complain about us ‘not manning up’ or whatnot when we have just about nothing left. All you guys seem to do is take, and you’re never satisfied. Why am I not surprised? Whatever, enjoy silver league.

quickflash.6314:

Yep it’s totally numbers

It’s definately not

1. You commanders go for an objective and half your forces go for a door.

2. You are not coordinating multi map efforts

3. Everyone is using there own comms

4. Your pugs aren’t trained to stack / buff / field / etc

5. Your golem strikes were not organized and drivers died to cannon fire instead of rotating out 3s (golem shield)

6. Your roamers failed to prep keeps for strikes , ie destroying cannons / oils

7. Your roamers failed to keep waypoints contested during attacks , allowing for instant reinforcements

8. Your omega drivers stacked under oils.

Yep definately numbers. You guys are so kittenen awesome.

That being said. Some of your groups have operated as a team. So those getting rolled all over the place might want to man up and talk to the commanders who made something happen.

Clearly you should transfer to our server the week your server fights ours and spend the entire week with us to see it from our perspective. Oh wait, that’s right, why do that when you’re winning? Whatever, Yak’s Bend isn’t even supposed to be on our tier.

1. Improve the commander’s overall usefulness. If I were a commander (Sadly don’t have the 100 gold yet for the tag), I would like to place orders around the map that everyone could see, like ‘Attack here’, ‘Move here’, ‘Defend here’, etc. It would help the commander communicate to the rest of the server what his plan is. To help differentiate between multiple commanders on a server, you could have the commander tags/orders be color coded so you can tell who is issuing what order where. That would help greatly.

2. Re-balance siege. I find gates go down way too easily now with Flame Ram Masteries, golems, and only being able to upgrade it once. I know you have the pot of boiling oil and cannons, but those are often destroyed first. I know you can throw arrow carts down, but those are another thing that need to be reworked too since everyone spams ACs or so it would seem.

3. Re-work WvW ranks. I know why Supply Capacity was nerfed to the completely unviable state it is, but why would I put rank points into it when Guard Leech, the vitality boost, and being able to use siege more effectively are so much better than it? I guess what I’m trying to say is why would I invest 300 WvW rank points into carrying 15 supply around when I could simply pop a guild buff to do that? At least double it. That and I believe the last traits in Guard Killer and Guard Defender trees should only apply against guards, not players. Also, make WvW account bound so we don’t go from a rank 300 engineer to a rank 1 elementalist.

[MEX] and [PVP] transferred off of Sorrow’s Furnace to other places. I hope things go well for them.

I think it’s all a part of RNG. You have a chance of getting Dragonite ore, no actual guarantee of getting it. Like a lot of people who manage to get those two or three precursors while the rest don’t, it’s all about RNG.

rizzo.1079:

You need to range him and keep him out of the building. When he does his fear he gets the life leech and if you’re all in the building at that time he’ll heal a crapload of hp.

I believe it is part of this. My zerg had quite a bit of difficulty fighting him in one of those houses and he would pretty much gain health at the same rate we dealt him damage. None of us could see how, but if he applied life leech with fear…well…it’s obvious how we weren’t doing much.

Khisanth.2948:

Actually not unique. This is a very similar mechanic to the Priest of Grenth fight. It is also not an AoE attack, the pools of glaze do not have a circle nor do they do any damage.

A fight that involves actual fight mechanics instead of just ‘throw more bodies’ at it and not trivially ignored(I guess enough Feedback does make it trivially ignorable as well) is a good thing.

Yeah, I also learned that about the Skeleton Lich last night too. We knocked him into one of those houses and his rate of gaining health was equal to our DPS. After hitting him for about 15 minutes and realizing this wasn’t going anywhere, we backed off, brought him out into the open where everyone could attack him and had more success.

Smooth Penguin.5294:

No, leave it on the website. I can access the site from work, but not the game. When I’m bored out of my mind, I like having these short stories to read.

Why not both?

Vumol.3942:

Madora.9340:

Think we care? Our WvW crews realized how pointless it would be to fight Yak’s Bend because even though we can pretty much wipe your 40 man zergs, you manage to put at least 80 people per BL and EB, so what’s the point of even trying to hold something when you’re just gonna swoop in behind us to steal that tower? Instead, we let you guys waste your time all this week and let yourselves stroke your own ego. Tomorrow, I’m expecting at least half of your guys to be absent and the story to be a whole lot different. Enjoy it while it lasts!

Oh you can wipe us? this is news to me. as i recall the first few days of the match-up we quite literally ran you over naked. so keep qq about how good you are because i only believe what i can see and i haven’t seen you anything but blue this whole week

We can go 20 vs 40 and come out on top, but 20 vs 80 is an entirely different story, breh. I have not seen a single Yak’s Bend zerg nude, probably due to the sheer number of red names running towards us, but to each their own. Besides, if you actually read this thread, you’d understand why it has been mostly blue this week so I’ll just summarize it for you; Limited coverage throughout day/night, fairweathers gonna fairweather, and Halloween content. Keep stroking dat ego!

The Edge of the Mists looks like a training area of sorts for all three factions, since there is no PPT in there. I wonder what will happen in there.

Clearly that guy runs ’zerker gear and only functions as a sniper. In small groups, I think his effectiveness would be very limited since he is just glass.

The vitality buff he has easily gives my characters 4 k health, and the bubbles he creates keep enemies and projectiles out of it. Though, if there’s a big zerg running around and watching the break-out towers, you just pop him to give everyone the 10 supply and let him run to his death.

Runamok.9638:

Just transfer on over to ET. We all get along like gangbusters, no drama lamas up in here, and we all use a common TS. Our common TS has saved us soooooooooooooo many times. I cannot ever imagine going back to a fractured server voice coms setup ever again. I promise only to troll you minimally on TS and /map.

Edit: Ohhh and we have lots and lots and lots of very gorgeous ladies. Seriesly we have the most hot ladies of any server in GW2.

Sorry, we use mumble.

Cue TS3/Vent/Mumble rage fest nao…

Have No Faith In Me.1840:

Spurnshadow.3678:

If your server is outmanned, then THAT IS THE ISSUE, NOT BLOODLUST. You should be beseeching Anet to fix population issues. If you’re server is in a very unbalanced match, then IT DOESN’T MATTER THAT BLOODLUST GIVES 1 POINT OR 3. You are going to loose. Transfer servers, or blow up the forums asking them to come up with a solution for population balance. Screwing up bloodlust for even population server matches is not how you fix things.

Wow, bloodlust has flown so far over your head it boggles the mind how that ever happened.

It also gives a boost to raw stats. Do you understand?

If you’re already losing due to numbers (Are you following?)
and those bigger numbers also have a stat increase (Still following?)
it makes fighting impossible. Do you understand?

The enemy that is already winning due to having more players (stacked, fair weather) does not need to have a stat boost.

Bloodlust has a negative impact on wvw. Do you understand?

Food gives a raw boost for stats, so does sharpening stones. Depending on the food, you could get 100 points to a stat and 70 points to another. These are greater than the stat boost you get from holding the arena, but do people cry out how unfair they are? No, because everybody uses them.

The main reason why people think this nerf is good (And a reason you don’t seem to understand) is you get less points for stomping people. Suppose you have a group that just killed a 15 man group and you got stomps for each one…You just gained points equal to that of holding a tower for a tick. If you had the old system in play, you get 45, which is more than holding a keep for a tick. Sure, the stat boost helps people kill, but it was the overall stomp points that could end up making the difference. If you were behind by 3000 points, you could simply stomp 1000 players and this isn’t just you, your team could be doing this on all of the BLs.

This ties back to the argument of the server that causes the blow-out; they would be getting three points for every stomp while both servers don’t get points for stomps. They would also have the stat boost, which was pretty generous, and the combination of these two would widen the gap even more between the outmanned and the huge server. Now that things have been dialed back quite a bit, the boosts are less necessary and a 30/50/60 point boost isn’t anything to phone home about either.

Vumol.3942:

So to the Sadrows Furnace / ErrorRun TehRace players QQing about how we have soo many more players than you i would just like to let you know that if your server wasn’t terrible you would have better numbers. But i guess the smart ones left when they saw you failing horribly with your PvD tactics. I hope you guys had fun getting completely smashed this week, I know that i sure didn’t have any fun rolling over you. The two highlights of my week were 1. When we literally owned everything (that was a nice 695 tick) and 2. Just today chasing one of your ET commanders, a guard no less, from the north gate of hills to almost the south gate finally shooting him off the cliff much to my dismay didn’t kill him so i had to jump my tiny asuran kitten off on-top of him (mind you ranger not mes so don’t try to pull the i was glitched to all hell and back cuz that’s not gunna happen) killed him with a great sword, was going to just walk away and let him respawn but nooo you guys sent an uplevel ele to try to res him, I felt bad for killing them as well, But i won’t just play my side of the story because it has quite a sad ending as you had to throw 2 thieves and an actually 80 ele to kill me so yeah well played.

Think we care? Our WvW crews realized how pointless it would be to fight Yak’s Bend because even though we can pretty much wipe your 40 man zergs, you manage to put at least 80 people per BL and EB, so what’s the point of even trying to hold something when you’re just gonna swoop in behind us to steal that tower? Instead, we let you guys waste your time all this week and let yourselves stroke your own ego. Tomorrow, I’m expecting at least half of your guys to be absent and the story to be a whole lot different. Enjoy it while it lasts!

Here’s a simple thought; why not buff it up to +150 to all skill attributes and have 3 point stomps for T1 servers and leave the rest alone? I think that would make mostly everyone happy.

It’s fixed now, so don’t expect it to happen again. :p

Eh, I don’t really mind it. I hardly used Box of Nails that much since I’d mostly go for the Gear Shield and Pry bar, but I did appreciate the stacks of bleed and the cripple it would apply. I usually don’t need an escape since I’m running HGH and have a block as well as two invulns. If I somehow die, well, I can’t blame anyone but myself.

I can’t help but agree that there’s a bit of strategy missing in WvW, and I think that in part comes with an overall lack of defined roles. I mean, when you look at a game that utilizes a commander (Battlefield 2, Battlefield 2142, and Natural Selection 1/2), there are defined roles that each player ends up picking and going with.

In Guild Wars 2, that isn’t as apparent. Anyone can pretty much play a healing class, a supporting class, a DPS class, or an AOE class depending how you set things up with your class. With that in mind, there is no real party make-up (1 tank, 2 DPS, 2 healers), and taking territories really lacks strategy (Hit the supervisor until he dies).

The guild I am currently with is more of a casual guild, we often have two commanders split up to attack either team. Rather than relying on dedicated people to follow them around, the pubbies follow them and we essentially get two armies to attack two different sides of EB. When a tower or keep gets hit, the alarm is sounded and everyone runs to defend it…usually. We don’t really have dedicated teams, but everyone is willing to pitch in and help out, and we always seem to manage to do well against double our numbers. (Except when Yak’s Bend swarms us with five times our numbers and we can’t do anything. -_-)

I’ve had some ideas distilling in my head for the past couple weeks when we were consistently getting hit with higher ranked servers, like NSP, Kaineing, HoD, FC, IoJ, etc. and while I’m not going to discuss them here, I will say you should start small and get everyone into a Voice over IP (VOIP) program of some kind. (Teamspeak, Mumble, Ventrillo, I don’t care.) Start thinking of ways you can use your group to your advantage, how you can break into a tower or how to approach a zerg, etc. I’m sorry for not being incredibly specific, but it is hard to develop strategy for a game few defined roles and having everything be in a gray area.

ilr.9675:

Rednik.3809:

We are playing same game? Try to use things called “choke points”, “static fields”, “concentrated AOE” on your enemy, and things called “discipline”, “coordination”, “guild builds” and “tactic” on your group, and you will see x2 zergs teared apart.

Did you read today’s patch notes???

Those are pretty much ALL sPvP motivated changes. (even if they’re not 100% tPvP).
IOW: they make everything you listed even less effective VS. puggy zergs.

…I’m just amazed they haven’t tried to move this thread to trashcan already with some malarky excuse. Maybe they’re actually reading it and mumbling at their desks in the same vein of nerd rage we’ve been writing it in. If so Kudos to them for having more restraint. That’s not a bad start. That’s where Cognitive Dissonance is allowed to take root and eventually months later, there’s a chance that compromise can start to happen

We’ve managed to pull such a thing off in Sorrow’s Furnace. We can consistently go up against bigger groups and bigger zergs, usually double our group’s population, and come out on top. But you know what, I’m just going with what I know and I’m sure we’re in the minority. Then again, hardly anyone watches/cares about us.

Spurnshadow.3678:

ITS ABOUT WINNING. STOMPS WIN, NOT EXTRA STATS.

These changes are good, nice work Arena Net. Gave us something workable.

Eye Mohini.7938:

Dang, I finally figured out why the WvW contingent hate sPVP and fall back into PvE so willingly.

It really is all about the “loot”?

All this talk about being spawn camped, outnumbered and no roamers with “skill” just comes from being denied simple bags.

I like it for the fights and working with a group to achieve something much bigger than myself, but to each their own. I love busting a big zerg open with half the numbers, I love defending an objective from a horde of enemies, but it falls apart when we can’t even leave our spawn, or even establish a foot hold in our BL. It’s like, why bother? It’s just going to flip again in four minutes when YB comes rolling back here.

quickflash.6314:

Madora.9340:

Thank you for discouraging any fighting in WvW this week, I hope you enjoy sitting on your hands waiting for someone to show up to kill. Hope you like waiting until Friday at 9 pm.

Mission Accomplished

No bags/loot 4 u

Deli.1302:

I encourage anyone with an answer for Morticus to please pm him the details. The last thing we need is more guilds getting poached by T1 servers.

Hard enough to find third shifters and Oceanics.

Rednik.3809:

Dutchares.6084:

GW2 doesn’t , if a large group has more then 2 or 3 times the numbers as even the best group out there, the large group will win with a bit of leading.. doesn’t matter if like more then 50% of the large zerg isn’t even 80 yet and is their first week playing .

We are playing same game? Try to use things called “choke points”, “static fields”, “concentrated AOE” on your enemy, and things called “discipline”, “coordination”, “guild builds” and “tactic” on your group, and you will see x2 zergs teared apart.

There is also this thing called a ‘cap timer’. It doesn’t matter how big a zerg is there, they can’t make the timer go faster. So, they should either give up and go do something else while waiting to cap a point for ten minutes, or have their main force tied up for ten minutes.

quickflash.6314:

SF and there mighty troops

When you talk about wipe a thon? Was that the NPCs and random up levels you came across?

Could you imagine there comms , dude we just killed a Tower Lord! High fives !

ROFL.

Ps . STAR that was an awesome 2 golem strike this morning. We were wondering why you didn’t contest the waypoint though? Some new surprise tactic where your golems eat cannon fire ?

Thank you for discouraging any fighting in WvW this week, I hope you enjoy sitting on your hands waiting for someone to show up to kill. Hope you like waiting until Friday at 9 pm.

quickflash.6314:

So excited when SF decided to get out and fight.
So depressed it lasted only 2 hours.

How much kitten do we need to talk to get a fight for 4 hours?

You can save your breath, we’ve already decided to deny you any pleasure this week. Have fun with Mrs. Hand for the rest of the time.

I think when you log into the game, you have to make the transfer then before you select a character and start playing.

I Iron Monk I.2103:

Does this mean we won the game?

Nope, just for the week.

Also, I have a question to ask Yak’s Bend. I see you guys are trying to troll us and everything, trying to lure SF and ET back to WvW but in case you haven’t noticed, there isn’t a reason for us to come in this week. I’m not being rude or trying to mess with anyone, there just isn’t any reason for us to play this week. Meanwhile, you guys keep saying how tough you are and how much we suck, etc, etc, yet complain about a lack of action. Congratulations! SF and ET have been defeated! But since the two ‘big, bad guys’ are out, who else do you have left to fight or blame? Well, I think you should take a look in the mirror.

I always have loved this mentality of people thinking SF and ET are hardcore PvP or WvW servers when at heart, we’re actually PvE. While you’re running around thinking you’re tough stuff, we’re putting our time into things we haven’t done yet, like map completion or dungeon running. We aren’t wasting our time, unlike you.

Seems like you’re still a one-trick pony, and the fact that you will inevitably level up and get worse just makes it seem like a novelty, really. Hitting for 181% of 200 damage isn’t that much to be honest. :p

Guess it’s all going according to plan, lull YB into a sense of complacency seems to be working…

Just use this. Also, 15 characters.

Nope, you just get a crap-ton of spikes.

I’d say Perplexity Stomp Warriors but I had to fight two D\P thieves with that build and didn’t do so well. Might as well fight cheap with cheap.

Nikkinella.8254:

beyonder.9735:

yaks numbers or not they still are really really bad players, the main reason them even getting matched up with us is because they cant cope with servers in their tier who actually cordinate and have tactics lmao oh man u guys crack me up.. btw [GLOB] needs to leave your server you dnt deserve them. on a lighter note it was tons of fun flipping yaks t3 garri and hills earlier today. cheers.

It’s attitudes like this that make us do things like this
Have fun trying to get out now.

Pfft, it’ll despawn when you guys least expect it. You guys need to sleep at some point

I’m still blaming the sudden loss of people at 3 pm Friday. Maybe FC and DH were trolling us by having up-levels run with them or something, I don’t know. I know, grasping for straws.

This pretty much describes my entire experience thus far with the match up. And seeing how some guilds have flocked to YB, I don’t understand why SF and ET is matched up with them. I don’t know how we weren’t popping the outnumbered buff with only 20 people vs their 50, I don’t know why our population made a mass exodus from WvW either when we needed them most last Friday. I do love going against a zerg twice my numbers and getting even more loot bags, but there is only so long of being stuck at 90 PPT before I say, ‘Sod it.’ and leave. It’s a waste of time at that point because we’re not getting anything really accomplished other than killing.